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S_204, in What does a PhD mean?

I know a guy with a PhD in medieval agriculture with a specific focus on cows. He’s one of my brothers wife’s friends.

This guy devoted his life to ye olde english cow farts.

He’s struggling for employment as one might expect.

Stuka, (edited )

Who even funds degrees like that?

You end up with fewer job prospects than a GED

pinkdrunkenelephants,

Degrees like that aren’t about a paycheck. It’s about more important things than that. They ought to be subsidized by government if anything.

funkless_eck,

whereas I , with my bachelors degree in clowning, have been head hunted for my last two corporate jobs.

Agent641,

You are now CEO of FTX

stebo02, (edited ) in I dunno, still might be aliens with this one.
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Actually this is how we’ve been reconstructing dinosaurs. They’re probably all very wrong.

Smokeydope,
@Smokeydope@lemmy.world avatar

I dont care how scientifically accurate Dino’s with bird feathers are, they will never be as cool as the Jurassic park dino of my childhood

Salvo,
@Salvo@aussie.zone avatar

Spoken like someone who thinks Pluto should still be considered a Planet.

But you are right, Jurassic Park would be a completely different movie if Genaro was eaten my something that looked like an oversized quail.

southsamurai,
@southsamurai@sh.itjust.works avatar

Pluto is a planet

LostXOR,

It'll always be a planet in our hearts.

Klear, (edited )

And what about Ceres and Eris then? Planets too?

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Everything’s a planet!

angrystego,

I’m all for it, let’s get more planets!

Draconic_NEO,
@Draconic_NEO@mander.xyz avatar

“Planet” in my book is anything that’s too big to just be a large lumpy rock. Something with sufficient gravity to pull itself into the shape of a sphere.

The idea of planets needing to orbit in eliptical orbits on a plane, or clear their own paths is a bias from living in a stable planetary system, but much of the planetary systems and indeed much of the universe doesn’t have the stability that exists in this local area, it’s especially the case in younger planetary systems as well as much older ones.

Also many planets in the universe don’t even have stars, they are rogue, scattered throughout the darkness between the stars.

DroneRights,

It’s starting to look like rogue planets are the more common ones and us stellar orbiters are the weirdos

Draconic_NEO,
@Draconic_NEO@mander.xyz avatar

Just goes to show how much the universe is a chaotic and cruel place, hopefully we won’t end up joining them in the cold dark void in our future.

southsamurai,
@southsamurai@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yup!

Now, whether or not they meet a specific criteria for a specific standard used in a scientific field is not in debate. Obviously, the standard for what defines a planet in a given field of study is applicable in that field.

However, for the rest of us, we don’t have to use that standard. See, using a language for something lile science is filled with this kind of thing when you use a living language that’s why Latin is so often the default for situations where you need fixed definitions. Otherwise, you deal with this issue constantly.

Though, tbh, even that’s no certain protection because people will borrow words, or misuse them just because we’re essentially a bunch of parrots playing with sounds sometimes. Lol at what happened with words like idiot or moron. They used to have a fixed, certain meaning with a standard used to apply them. Now they’re just insults.

The “planets” have existed in the public awareness with a much looser definition than what is used in scientific fields. Pretty much anything can be a planet in colloquial usage, so long as it orbits the sun. Now, I believe most people would insist on a lower size threshold where something is no longer a planet, but some other term. The problem is that there’s not a consensus on that lower limit.

With ceres and eris in specific, most people that are aware they exist are gong to be into “space” in some way, maybe even professionally. That makes the usage of planet for them less common than for Pluto, but the more casual the interest in such things, the more likely they are to get lumped in as “the 10th planet” or 10th and 11th, depending on who is saying things.

But, for casual conversation, I’d say that all three are planets. I’d have to look up the standards again because I’m fucking old, but I would also be just fine with someone calling them dwarf planets, or planetoids, or whatever.

Seriously. Until someone is just outright ignoring common usage and making up definitions nobody else uses, this kind of thing is just part of the fun of being monkeys that make complex sounds. None of us are obligated to use jargon definitions in casual settings, and trying to force that is not only pointless, it’s sometimes rude.

name_NULL111653,

Pluto will forever be a planet in our hearts…

HiddenLayer5, (edited )
@HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml avatar

IIRC the current theory is that many (likely most) had feathers but few of the large ones had actual wings beyond just a row of longer feathers on the forearms. The bodily structures that allow flight are absent on the vast majority of dinosaurs so it’s thought they mostly used their arm feathers as rudders for better control when running (which the ostrich and other large flightless birds still use). However, it is thought that some smaller species likely did have wings which they used to glide much like a flying squirrel. Eventually they evolved larger chest muscles and a keel for attaching said large muscles, and at that point you could reasonably just call them birds, which are to this day a subset of dinosaurs.

DroneRights,

Birds are dinosaurs because taxonomy as a field is fundamentally based on garbage pseudoscience

HiddenLayer5, (edited )
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But even with more modern methods like cladistics and genetic analysis, birds are still found to be directly descended from contemporary dinosaurs.

DroneRights,

And the taxonomic rule that any animal is also all of its ancestors is garbage science.

HiddenLayer5, (edited )
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That’s not “science,” that’s just an arbitrary convention that can help simplify communication of complex toppics. The genetic data that the convention is derived from is the science, in the form of a lineage of genetic relations between organisms and nothing else, because biology has exactly zero built-in categories or labels, and those are all human-made.

DroneRights,

Exactly, it’s not science. And it’s not helpful either. It doesn’t simplify communication. The representative conventions of taxonomy are not derived from evidence, they’re derived from the irrelevant feelings of taxonomists hundreds of years ago who didn’t understand how the world works. It’s pseudoscience. Pointless tradition masquerading as a legitimate exploratory endeavour.

protist, (edited )

T. rex

T. rex may have had lips, for example

embed_me,
@embed_me@programming.dev avatar

😗

dingleberry,

Luscious kissable lips?

Klear,

Lusty Cretaceous Maid

usualsuspect191,

The book All Yesterdays explores this

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Yesterdays

Salvo,
@Salvo@aussie.zone avatar

Just purchased. Now it will languish in my iBooks library with other illustrated books until some time in the distant future…

Malgas,
MonkderZweite,

Then you have physcs and how much weight the bones can lift before breaking.

makuus,

I want to believe…

fossilesque,
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jomoo99,

We need to bring back the chonkosaurs

MonkderZweite,

It’s a while ago. Now they’re probably pretty accurate.

xkforce, (edited ) in Biochem

Then you find out that the lack of an ingredient results in the microbes producing the product lol.

Certain algae for example, need to be “starved” in a way that results in them switching from conventional photosynthesis that produces glucose to photosynthesis that functions to generate Hydrogen and Oxygen alone. The Oxygen is used for respiration and the Hydrogen is essentially dumped as a waste product. They can only sustain this for relatively short periods before their stockpile of carbohydrates is sufficiently depleted. Which means these bioreactors need to be cycled through a fattening phase where the algae stockpile fuel and a starvation phase where they exhaust that stockpile while producing Hydrogen.

embed_me,
@embed_me@programming.dev avatar

Stop algae cruelty

fossilesque,
@fossilesque@mander.xyz avatar

Phycologists on revolt.

DragonTypeWyvern,

Fuck them eukaryotes

xkforce,

Well the alternative is us setting the solid, liquid and gas remains of their ancient ancestors on fire which slowly makes the planet uninhabitable.

SubArcticTundra,
@SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml avatar

Wow, could you point me to any resources where I could learn more? I’m doing undergrad biochem…

xkforce, (edited )

Nitrogen starvation increases Hydrogen yield: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/402109/

Sulfur starvation doing the same as well as a strain that doesnt need to be starved: www.sciencedirect.com/…/S0360319920341550

SubArcticTundra,
@SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml avatar

How did you come across these?

xkforce,

Ive been trying to keep tabs on the literature in biochemistry, chemistry and other fields for decades. I inevitably come accross things like this from time to time. These particular articles I just googled because I dont have the bookmark for the original paper discussing Hydrogen production back in 2000.

callyral, in Seasonal Affective Disorder
@callyral@pawb.social avatar

My friend sent this and I am filled with rage

So you Lost your mind?

fossilesque,
@fossilesque@mander.xyz avatar

Loss is hard to bear.

MuhammadJesusGaySex, (edited ) in Survey says: You're louder than the bullfrogs.

This happened to me 2 nights ago. I was fishing for catfish and it was 9pm. The sun went down at like 5. I’m in the woods with a bright headlamp on, and there is an old service road behind me that I’ve never seen anyone drive down before.

So, imagine my surprise when I see 2 headlights coming down the service road. When I realized it was coming towards me I cut off my headlamp. I don’t know if it’s like this everywhere, but in the south everyone I know was taught to always assume people in the woods are up to no good and to be avoided.

Anyway, the truck stops on the hill 30 meters above me. I grabbed my machete in preparation for whatever is about to happen and continue fishing in case they are lost or something. I can hear rap music blaring from the radio. So, I’m pretty sure not a game warden, and about that time I see a second truck coming down the road. It stops behind the first. They get out and talk for a few mins then leave in opposite directions.

I was incredibly relieved that nothing happened, but I also went ahead and packed up and left after that.

iheartneopets,

Oof, that had chills going up and down my spine. I’m glad it turned out okay!

MuhammadJesusGaySex,

That was actually the second crazy thing that happened on that trip. The first happened earlier while it was still light out. I was at a spot where a long country straight away was up above where I was fishing.

I heard a car go by really fast. Then I heard the tires scrr short pause scrrr long pause then scrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr BOOM!!! The boom was so hard and close I felt it in the ground. A few mins go by and a cop car goes by then a fire truck then another fire truck. After a few more mins an ambulance with siren on goes by. A few more minutes later I saw that same ambulance leaving without sirens and not in a hurry.

So, either the driver was completely ok, or…

gibmiser, in Why lie, I guess?

That’s awesome. Both in the funny way, and that they were able to push through the emotions that come with those sorts of conflicts and finish their work. Good for them.

baseless_discourse, in I dunno, still might be aliens with this one.

I remember someone mentioned online that the reconstruction of animals are more complicated than just tracing the bone line.

I am very interested if some experts are willing to tell us more.

blackbrook,

They can get some idea from the bones of muscle attachment points and how strong of a muscle would have been attached.

agent_flounder, (edited )
@agent_flounder@lemmy.world avatar

Since none chimed in (in the past 6 minutes) , I, an idiot, will share what I think I know. When reconstructing the faces of people from a skull, either with clay or software, they model the various tissues–muscles, fat, skin, etc according to models based on samples. How they would do this for a creature that isn’t very like any current living creature I don’t know. It is probably educated guesswork?

I just read an article on this process for a neanderthal and in that particular instance they used data from humans since I guess it was close enough.

But, for example (referencing a recent meme) how do they know spinosaur had a sail and not a hump back and neck muscles like a buffalo?? Seriously though I’m sure they can tell which bones have attachment points, how much force they can withstand, etc.

Hillock, (edited )

As another idiot, there is a difference between tusks and teeth. They are different, tusks don't contain enamel for example and I think aliens could also determine this difference. It's rare for teeth to stick out like in the reconstruction.

They would also be able to determine that hippos can open their mouth extremely wide. Making it more likely for the long "fangs" to be at least partially covered and not exposed like the tusks of elephants.

lugal,

Often, dinosaurs are depicted with mouths showing their tooth. This is debated and more and more scientists think they had closed mouths, like most animals today.

Other than that, the proposition of fat is very hard to reconstruct. Reconstructing a hippo you would have other mammals in mind and reconstructing dinosaurs, scientists take reptiles but they could as well take birds so this is a big question.

For context: I’m an idiot too

msage,

I’ll be honest, I double-checked your username to make sure I’m not going to read about Undertaker at the end

snooggums,
@snooggums@kbin.social avatar

Over the last few decades there have been massive improvements on telling which bones have attachment points for muscles and hints at how strong the muscles are likely to be, but it takes a long time to replace all of the existing artwork with newer and more accurate artwork.

Even with improvements to the muscle structure, any part of the body that has fatty buildup like breasts would be missed without soft tissues being preserved. I am fairly certain that a hippos nose and lip area wouldn't have enough detail to reconstruct accurately. Heck, tyrannosaurs most likely had lips to cover their teeth, but that is based on other animals with similar teeth all having lips to protect the teeth from dryness and rot that doesn't apply to crocodiles who live in a very wet environment.

samus12345, in uncomfortable levels of eye contact
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sigmaklimgrindset,

Thank you Eiji Aonuma, very cool.

someguy3, (edited ) in Let's meet those headlines

Can someone help me out and tell me how they would be pronounced?

I think I got par-teh-cleese.

Moe-leck-you-leese?

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

Moe-leh-cleese, to make it more like Hercules = Heracles in Greek.

DroneRights,

Mol-eh-cue-lees

Par-tik-lees

entropicdrift,
@entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Par-tik-lees

Probably pronounced the same but my brain breaks it up like this:

Part-ih-klees

Threeme2189,

Testicules or Testiklees?

DroneRights,

Testicles doesn’t have a U in it, so the second one.

jettrscga,

What you wrote looks right to me.

puchaczyk, (edited ) in mentally unbalanced behaviour

For those who are curious it’s properly balanced. There are 24 slots available. Pairs: 1-13, 2-14, 6-18, 9-21, 10-22 Triple: 8-16-24 All pairs and triples have their centers of mass on the rotation axis.

meyotch, (edited )

This person centrifuges!

guyrocket,
@guyrocket@kbin.social avatar

THANK GOD. I WAS SO WORRIED!!!

GraniteM,

What do you do if there’s a prime number of test tubes, like the thirteen in the picture?

threelonmusketeers, (edited )

For a 24-slot centrifuge, 5 pairs and 1 triple will balance 13 tubes, as is described in the comment you replied to.

Here’s a video that also explains it: The Centrifuge Problem - Numberphile

lseif,

drink one

dingus, (edited )

If you don’t want to figure out some awkward balancing techniques, you can just use a balance tube. Fill a tube with water to a similar height of the tube it opposes.

veroxii,

They just explained it. If you have 3 you put them on 8-16-24. Everything else will be pairs which you put across from each other.

jeffhykin, in Data Science

The best part of this is the subtle implication that you can tell a million completely different stories with the same data.

Xariphon,

Having spent an unfortunate amount of time debunking bullshit statistics... yes.

NounsAndWords,

You just need to pick the pieces you want and discard/ignore the ones you don’t!

paraphrand,

And invent the special pieces you need to tell the story you want.

Where the fuck was that baseplate hiding?

ShaggySnacks, (edited )

The baseplate came from the green in the bar graph. As we know all, the base plate is the foundation for any major project. Regardless that the bar graph shows little green compared to everything else. Green is far more important and we should focus all our efforts on the color green.

In a major coincidence, green is the color of money and I am now moving into a bigger house.

Edit: The fact that I got upvotes for a poorly written post amazes me.

ladicius, in bread is metal

You eat their little farts trapped in the dough, you know that?

You are disgusting.

dylanTheDeveloper,
@dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world avatar

Your either a smart fella or live long enough to become a fart sniffa

scarilog,

Noo it’s fart smella how could you not get that right

Daft_ish,

That ain’t the only farts I’m eating, honey

robdor,

Don’t kink shame

Sir_Simon_Spamalot,

Hey, don’t kinkshame us!

optissima,

Dutch oven sandwich in every bite

skybreaker, in We don't judge here. :)
@skybreaker@lemmy.world avatar

As someone with a degree in physics who ended up in an engineering role, I approve of this meme.

Tolookah,

As an engineer, I don’t believe in any of that mind reading mumbo jumbo.

rh4c6f,

Astronomy is one of the many tools of the devil.

beneeney,
@beneeney@lemm.ee avatar

Fr, what can you do with a physics degree except teach people physics

troyunrau,
@troyunrau@lemmy.ca avatar

Applied physics is a thing. Lots of jobs there. Geophysics, biophysics, engineering physics (yes, that’s a thing…)

MonkderZweite,

engineering physics (yes, that’s a thing…)

Architect?

pinkdrunkenelephants, (edited )

Literally everything. All science and engineering is based on physics

milicent_bystandr,

I used my particle physics and knowledge of quantum topology to hybridise a new species of drought-resistant pineapple just the other day. It’s that easy!

pinkdrunkenelephants, (edited )

Okay. Good luck having anything from modernity without physics then. Especially your plumbing.

milicent_bystandr,

Oh, I do my plumbing based on political science. But that’s not especially modern. The real genius is using music theory to run my email server. I’m setting self-hosted jazz on a saxophone next weekend.

pinkdrunkenelephants,

So that’s the reason you’re full of shit

acockworkorange,

Well, we did have plenty of engineered items before having the proper physics theory to explain what was happening. Physics does a whole lot more than simply enabling engineering to do more. It’s the basis of our understanding of the universe.

dalekcaan,

Come up with new physics to teach people?

skybreaker,
@skybreaker@lemmy.world avatar

So true, lol

Droggelbecher, in abandonware empires

I work in an astrophysics department and this is exactly why we almost exclusively use open source software

Amends1782,

Based

ASeriesOfPoorChoices,

This

cybervseas, in All is fair in love and war. (See body for part 2)

If this is real, you know they have better sex than any of us.

Lekip,

You guys have sex!?

Johanno,

With my hands

xantoxis,

It’s lucky he’s the vector data guy because if she was in charge of aiming it in there’d be rounding errors

cybervseas,

It’s fun trying to figure out what their dirty talk is like.

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