This is some dumbass elitism. Let people enjoy what they enjoy. Star Wars is a space fantasy. Rey gets Jar Jar pregnant in the lost 10th movie. It was glorious.
Regardless of genre any work of fiction should have cohesive plot and characterization. It’s not elitism to say that the new trilogy is hobbled by numerous, avoidable writing pitfalls.
The other films had writing problems as well but not nearly as many as the new films. People are free to enjoy the new trilogy but they are poorly written.
And yes, I’m aware of how fucking cringe the dialogue in the prequels was.
Art and entertainment must always fall within my predetermined understanding and preferences. Anything straying from this template is bad and must be opposed. Anyone who doesn’t think this way is morally wrong and also must be opposed.
Stop taking your entire life this seriously. Not everything’s perfect. You alone cannot steer how the film industry depicts Star Wars. Boo hoo.
People are allowed to like things you don’t like. I feel sorry for people like you who literally work yourselves up into such a rage because some piece of entertainment didn’t pan out the way you wanted. Best of luck in life with that attitude!
The point where Star Wars totally lost me was when it turned out C3PO was fucking built by Darth Vader when he was a kid. I just couldn’t suspend my disbelief anymore. I loved the original three movies when I was a kid, but damn, it’s completely left me behind at this point.
Clone wars opens with Anakin and Obi wan talking about a better movie they didn’t make.
I left revenge of the sith convinced that’s not how it actually happened, that the last three movies weren’t actually canon, but like, a story someone told about Darth Vader centuries after the fact.
Like all the stories about King Arthur, all different.
I think it’s worth watching just to witness the absurdity. It’s like going to a bad horror movie - if you’re expecting to be scared, you’ll be disappointed, but if you go into it rooting for the zombies, it can be fun
This might be the comment that gets me to watch it. I’ve been holding off on some preconceived notion of it further wrecking my memories of the original movies. At this point, it hardly matters. Low expectations it is!
Why wouldn’t you include mental character as part of your performance? It matters quite a lot in competitive sports, but what do i know I didn’t watch star wars
You’ve just signaled you don’t understand Star Wars’ plot, prepare for a deluge of explanations.
In short, Anakin was emotionally unstable during his battle against Obi-Wan. Under normal circumstances, he’d wipe the floor with his master. In the making of accounts and Star War History books, both George Lucas and Nick Gillard (choreographer for all fights before Disneyfication) confirm that Anakin was an equal to Yoda and Sidious at the end of RotS, far surpassing Mace Windu and Obi-Wan Kenobi.
As a fun aside, in the animated series The Clone Wars, we get a glimpse at Anakin’s full potential - the ability to control all of the force at once, even swapping day for night on a whim.
Mace windu was actually strong as fuck though. Like he genuinely bested sidious in saber combat. It wasn’t an act.
The advantage of Vaapad, using Sidious own dark side powers against him.
I read once that obi wan and anakin were so used to sparring together that the difference in power didn’t matter.
It certainly did matter, as seen in their final (RotS) duel; Obi-Wan is on his back foot, running the entire time. It’s true that they had sparred so much, they could predict each other’s movements as if it was telepathy, though.
Anakin was emotionally unstable during his battle against Obi-Wan
Surely being emotionally unstable is a major sign of a bad Jedi. Obi-wan had as much reason to be emotionally unstable but maintained control and won the day, thus is the stronger Jedi.
That doesn’t follow at all. At that point Anakin had already abandoned the Jedi Order, he was just learning how to tap into the Dark Side, and even then Obi-Wan was kept on his back foot for the entire time, until Anakin decided that killing his master with a move created by him was a good idea.
Yeah they mean his power comes mostly from anger and anger is a dark side power so not a Jedi. He could have been the most powerful grey Jedi of all time but he will not ever be the most powerful light Jedi.
Not to mention being so easily manipulated into turning and then immediately diving in to his new role to the point of killing younglings and force choking his wife. He was very weak mentally and incredibly immature. He was powerful but wasn’t a master for a very good reason.
LOL. While overall I'm a big fan of "More Star Wars, Please," I do sort of roll my eyes at the fixation on stories that are prequel to something and then end up bending over backwards to juuuust barely maintain continuity but require the audience to recontextualize conversations in ways that send our characters off on bizarre psychological and logistical tangents.
Leia sort of gets the worst of this:
This meme.
Ep3 turning the "real mother" conversation on Endor into a Simone Biles level of mental gymnastics: "Well, the memories must have been imprinted on me by the Force as an infant before Padme immediately peaced out, and I know you're a 99% trained Jedi and were in the room with me, but I'm the only one who remembers (because girls?), or maybe there was just some other bitch on Alderaan that they told me was my real mom... so anyway, she was very kind."
Rogue One turning the cheeky "We all know I'm a sympathizer but I'm also a Senator and leveraging that last bit of leverage before the Emperor dissolves the Senate in a later scene" and dialing the delusion up to eleven, with Vader thinking something like, "You motherfuckers, I JUST saw this ship leave a massive space battle two hours ago. I was literally striking a pose as you left."
Personally, I like the bit about Rogue One. Because Leia Organa is definitely the kind of person who would tell a bald-faced lie to a six-foot-tall cyborg known for killing innocent people on a whim if just to buy her insane, last-ditch, Hail Mary plan of giving top secret data to an R2 unit and sending it after a person she hasn’t seen in over ten years who might be hiding who-knows-where on a desert planet a few more seconds.
There are a lot of problems with Disney Canon, Rogue One is not one of them.
What I said when the movie ended was: “it’s not exactly bad”.
Instead, it’s something else. It’s not good either. But the one thing I know for sure is that it has enough time to add another half-a-dozen cliché short-stories that don’t add anything to the main line. It could have pulled 2 or 3 good one from Matrix.
I thought Jupiter Ascending was kinda half decent, though super uneven and sometimes distractingly bonkers. I thought Valerian had its moments and different casting could have made it into something. I even liked "65" once I realized it was just a small-scale rumination on fatherhood and loss, an acting exercise that happened to have dinosaurs and a light glaze of bad sci-fi.
It wasn’t the worst movie I have ever seen, but I was constantly distracted by how derivative everything about it was. I was laughing at parts that were meant to be serious because it was just so ridiculous.
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