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habbin, in To people who had pneumothorax surgery, How are you doing now?

I’m fifteen years post surgery on both sides. Had blebs and bullae removed and a mechanical VATS (no talc) a few weeks apart.

There were complications with one surgery and I ended up having an unplanned thoracotomy which took a while longer to heal, but beyond a very cool scar, I have had no real noticeable health changes and am very glad I had it done.

redballooon, (edited ) in Why do most people refuse to accept that they are wrong

I suppose the positions you are describing are not reached by reasoning, rather by being part of a group, religion or ideology. In those cases it’s quite clear that they can’t give up the position unless they weaken their ties to that group/religion/ideology, or abandon it entirely.

Some times in their life people are open to big changes, but most of the time not.

Koen967, in Why do most people refuse to accept that they are wrong

I wouldn’t know, because I’ve never been wrong.

paddirn,

OP is obviously wrong themselves and refuses to accept it.

Diplomjodler,

Me neither. OP is obviously an idiot.

Apollo2323,

Lol

tygerprints,

Me neither. I once thought I was wrong but it turns out I was mistaken.

tygerprints, in Why do most people refuse to accept that they are wrong

I encounter that all the time especially on public forums like this. This is a quote from an article I found about it online: According to psychologist, speaker and author Guy Winch, most people who consistently refuse to admit they're wrong do so because they have incredibly fragile egos. They clam up and insist they're right, demonstrating what experts term "psychological rigidity", as a defense mechanism.

Also I think that telling someone they are wrong comes across as a criticism about their intellect and they respond defensively by instinct. And, another reason is because people don't want to believe anything that contradicts their preferred view of the world. So if you "correct" someone they tend to act like you're attacking them or as too stupid to know what "truth" is.

It's really a telling distinction because today, most people behave in this defensive way. You don't see many people willing to concede or say, "wow that's a different point of view than I have considered, maybe it requires me to spend some thought on why I feel the way I do." Which is the real value of differing opinions; they help us re-assess and redefine the reasons why we feel the way we do.

Delphia,

It cant help that especially online it seems incredibly rare for someone to point out that you are wrong politely, gently and informatively. Who wants to admit they are wrong to someone who informs you via “OMG you dumb fuck…”

tygerprints,

That's also true. How can you not be defensive when someone's reply starts with, "listen here you stupid dumbfuck....." Of course that kind of name calling is going to result in a verbal fight. I don't know why we can't just say, "OK I disagree but here's why, and I hope you'll appreciate my feedback." Do we have to resort to calling each other juvenile names? A person isn't stupid just because they have a controversial point of view.

peepo, in Why do most people refuse to accept that they are wrong
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Sometimes an idea is so engraved in their heads that they cannot believe otherwise. Also, some people don’t like to fact-check. They may hear a “fact” which is popular but is totally false, and they will never change their minds about it.

Godort, (edited ) in Why do most people refuse to accept that they are wrong

In my experience, with most people, his typically goes away as they get older. You eventually hit a point where people’s impressions of you dont matter anymore and it becomes much easier to freely admit you’re wrong.

Of course, there are people that never grow out of it, and that is often read as confidence. There is a reason that “fake it until you make it” works.

Cannizzaro, (edited )

I am 18 currently and I have pretty much stopped caring about what others think of me. It just feels as if wasting any more energy speaking to them would be useless. But when I don’t defend myself people start verbally abusing me etc. I just don’t know what to do in situations like these

kalkulat, (edited )
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what to do … people start verbally abusing me

When I was 18, I started hangin out with a different crowd. ADULTS (of any age). If I was wrong, they’d explain why nicely. And vice versa. Learned a lot.

Dazza, in Does Piped.video actually work for anyone?

Works fine for me on iPhone

smuuthbrane, in Can licking an iron bar get you the daily recommended amount of iron?
@smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works avatar

And which is more bioavailable, metallic iron or iron oxide? Do we want to lick clean iron or rusty iron??

tygerprints,

You can get all the iron you need from vegetables and certain meat or even taking supplements. There's no need to go about eating rusty metal. In fact, my doctor has advised me not to eat nails. I have to trust what he says, he's printed out several impressive medical degrees.

shinigamiookamiryuu,

Gives a whole new meaning to this.

HipsterTenZero, in Why do most people refuse to accept that they are wrong
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because me. me tho

meeeeeee

const_void,

Saw a novelty license plate recently that read “It’s all about ME!”. It’s an epidemic.

kamenlady,
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Me, myself and I.

tygerprints, in Can licking an iron bar get you the daily recommended amount of iron?

This is the reason prisoners are so healthy and full of vim and vitality. (right........)

UMMM I don't think you can get iron in your diet this way. First off, it's unlikely you're going to find a bar of pure iron anyway, since most metal bars are composites of many minerals.

Also, the iron has to specifically be in an ingestible form so the liver can process it. An iron bar ain't a lollipop. (maybe that should be a slogan for something).

When they say that cereal has added iron, they really mean that actual bits of iron are added (very tiny particles). You can use a magnet to pull some of them out, they're little iron filings.

So if you file the bar down first and eat the filings, MAYBE it would contribute to your iron intake. But - why not just grab some milk and eat the cereal instead?

Got_Bent,

Quick Google search suggests that using cast iron cookware increases your iron intake. I’d imagine the heat process has something to do with it though, so still incredulous that licking an iron bar would be effective, though I’m at a very minor maybe.

tygerprints,

I saw that also but I have my doubts that you'd get much iron intake from cooking in iron pans. People used to get lead poisoning from using lead pots and pans, so - maybe it's possible. I'm not sure how much iron frying pans, for example, are pure iron.

Kalkaline, (edited )
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pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28049274/

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20110274/

It’s a strategy for defeating iron deficiency.

tygerprints,

Huh. So there IS some reason to think cooking in iron pots will increase levels of iron in your blood. Interesting! I know metal can leach out of cooking vessels and into food, so that's not too surprising. Thanks for the information!

WizardofIs, (edited )

It’s not that simple. Cast iron pans when properly seasoned won’t leach much iron into the food. However, I recall reading about a group who brewed their beer in iron kettles. And it was found to be a significant source of iron, as a result.

And beer itself for various reasons enhances iron absorption.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4434614/

Some types have more iron than others

www.sciencedaily.com/releases/…/110811084511.htm

spittingimage,
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Beer! Solves almost as many problems as it causes.

tiredofsametab,

Japan has traditional iron kettles (that are stupidly expensive) and they're often mentioned by doctors for use in people who have iron deficiency here. That or iron pans. They even make an iron ball to put in normal kettles and such, but that weirds me out a bit.

HipsterTenZero, in Does Piped.video actually work for anyone?
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Gotta swap instances pretty frequently with piped in my experience. Or just find a good invidious instance, is what i ended up doing.

lemann,

Pretty much my experience when using piped on my desktop, quick to resolve so not too much of an issue.

On the other side of things, my partner got tired of that and now uses FreeTube (which falls back to Invidious on failure IIRC)

willya, in Does Piped.video actually work for anyone?
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Working fine. Loading right away.

vlad76, in Why do most people refuse to accept that they are wrong
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It’s frustrating, because the people who normally call this out are the people who are most likely to be the ones doing it.

They see people around them fail to think critically, they criticize them for that, and then turn around and never question their own opinions. Because “obviously I am right”.

Not accusing you of it, but I’m sure a lot of people reading this fall into that category. Maybe we all do.

Hyperreality,

Vanity. It's the Devil's favourite sin.

Cannizzaro, (edited )

You are right i always try to think in all ways but maybe i am biased? It’s just that during my school life i was never bullied but rather it was my classmates badmouthing my family, me, shaming my body, or insulting me so that the entire class would know etc. The attitude of people just randomly changes if you open up too much to them or be too friendly they don’t respect your boundaries. I just don’t know anymore i talk to people but i never try to get too close to them. I feel like i have changed in just these recent 6 months

Prking,
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You might have something there. I know it works the other way. I was going to post that most of the people I know just come out and say when they know they’ve been wrong. It stops it being a big thing. Admitting you’re wrong or you made a mistake takes all the embarrassment out of it because you now own the situation.

zeppo, in Can licking an iron bar get you the daily recommended amount of iron?
@zeppo@lemmy.world avatar

Licking a rusty bar seems like it would be a good way to abrade your tongue and contract tetanus.

FishFace,

Tetanus is a bacteria that lives in soil. It’s only associated with rust because rust gives more surface area to allow dirt to accumulate on which bacteria can survive, and because iron objects are often sharp enough to pierce the skin. If you were cut with a gleaming razer that had just had soil smeared on it you’d have a good chance of contracting tetanus!

shinigamiookamiryuu,

Does that mean I can get tetanus by walking around barefoot outside?

FishFace,

If your feet get cut, sure. This is why tetanus vaccine is given as post-exposure prophylaxis in many places if you get a wound that breaks the skin.

monotremata, (edited )

It's also because the bacterium in question is anaerobic, so it dies in an oxygen environment; rusting consumes oxygen, so it helps preserve the bacterium longer out of soil.

Edit: I had always been told this, but evidently it isn't true. The rust does not seem to have any effect on the bacterium that causes tetanus. Apologies for spreading misinformation.

FishFace,

I’d be quite surprised if rusting could consume oxygen fast enough to make a difference there?

Typhoonigator,

Yeah, this is a strange mix of information being conveyed. Tetanus is indeed caused by an anaerobe, and it’s caused by a puncturing wound. The depth of the wound is what causes the oxygen-free environment. The correlation with iron, from my understanding, is solely because a nail can easily cause such a puncture. A nail stepped on in the general environment can easily innoculate the wound with with the relatively common Clostridium tetani bacteria, which causes tetanus. I don’t think rust is a factor, though I’ve been wrong before.

monotremata,

Yeah, you're right. This is something I was taught at one point, and I guess I never questioned it because it sounded plausible. Sorry! I have updated my comment to reflect this.

zeppo,
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So, I don’t know where this iron bar is coming from.

QuincyPeck, in Does Piped.video actually work for anyone?

Loaded up fast on my iPhone in the Memmy app.

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