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FierroGamer, in are you sure?

Also being ok with rejection

LemmyKnowsBest, (edited )

But repeated rejection has an effect of reinforcing our undesirableness, and takes a toll on our self-esteem. How do people cope with this?

Kedly,

Fake it till you make it. Confidence still works, even if its faked

Socsa,

That circles back around to confidence

rickyrigatoni,

no it doesn’t

Slovene,

Yesn’t it does!

LemmyKnowsBest,

But being constantly rejected circles back to breaking down one’s confidence.

NoSpiritAnimal,
@NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world avatar

If it’s breaking down your confidence than you are not ok with rejection.

UNWILLING_PARTICIPANT,

Is anyone truly ok with constant rejection?

NoSpiritAnimal,
@NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world avatar

People with healthy egos are able to register that someone does not want them as a romantic partner without having a crisis, yes.

I see I’ve upset some users today. This may seem like stating the obvious but clearly some people here need to hear it:

If you are emotionally devastated by rejection you likely do not have a healthy ego or self-image. This is the confidence part.

Assigning responsibility for fixing your self-image to a potential romantic partner is seeking external validation for an internal problem.

No amount of external validation will fix you. It will only feed the unhealthy expectations you’re already acting on.

Confidence is the external display of a healthy self-image (overconfidence is another example of external display of an unhealthy self-image).

Potential partners can sense your desperation for validation and it is not an attractive personality trait. It’s basically saying “I need you to do this emotional labor for me because I am not strong enough”.

No one wants to do your emotional work for you.

UNWILLING_PARTICIPANT,

Surely there exists a middle ground between being devastated by rejection and not registering continuous rejection as, perhaps, a sign that the rejectors have a point.

Emotional resilience is great, but if people keep giving you the same feedback maybe they have a point (and you should try changing, rather than brute forcing your way through social interactions, hoping to get lucky).

I’m not saying that you’re denying this, so I am jumping over some discussion, but tbf I think we’re both doing it.

ZzyzxRoad,

No, no one is fully ok with it. This entire thread is like the emperor’s new clothes or something.

LemmyKnowsBest,

Yeah, everyone here is like, “If you can’t handle rejection, then you’re WEAK and LACK CONFIDENCE! And you’re the ONLY ONE! Everyone else in the world is strong & emotionally bulletproof except for YOU!”

🙄

Thcdenton,

Alcohol!

Slovene, (edited )

Alcohol is magical. It lowers her standards and raises your confidence. … I mean, alcohol is bad.

kofe,

Friends, family, therapy.

UNWILLING_PARTICIPANT,

Also if therapy is too expensive, group therapy, or just time

deaf_fish, (edited )

Why assume a rejection is because of you?

Why not assume they are having a bad day, they are just out of a previous relationship and they want a break, your just not their type (even if you had all the abs and a chiseled jaw and confidence they wouldn’t be interested), what if they aren’t into your gender, or what if they are in a committed relationship with their horse?

There are a lot of things that can cause it to be a no deal that are not your fault. If you feel like you did a good job asking, then it is probably one of the above.

SomethingBurger,

100% of women I tried getting with rejected me, surely this is because of me.

deaf_fish,

How many women are we talking about here? I got rejected by 40ish before I met my last girlfriend.

SomethingBurger,

About 5.

deaf_fish,

That’s a good start. Don’t fear the man who suceeds the first time. Fear the man who has failed thousands of times.

Jax,

It’s like ya’ll motherfuckers need to memorize the serenity prayer.

“Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.”

Rodeo,

Sounds like he’s figuring out the difference.

ZzyzxRoad,

And yet every other comment on this post is “just have confidence; change how you act and look and you’ll stop being rejected.”

It’s so silly to keep acting like attractiveness has zero to do with dating and likeability. Especially when there are permanent issues that are genetic or medical or whatever that go beyond “get a haircut and buy new clothes.” American society is super judgemental in general when it comes to appearance and aging (especially toward women), and identity. It gets much worse in the dating scene, especially now that it’s so frequently based on swiping left or right on a single photo and you’re competing with filters. Yes, there’s always the possibility of finding a group of people or a person that you fit in with, and you should always put work into finding that (if that’s something you want - not everyone wants to be paired off) but let’s stop throwing realism completely out the window ffs.

– a woman

SomethingBurger,

Things I cannot change:

  • My autism
  • My face

OK now what?

SuddenDownpour,

Now you hit on autistic people. Comes with the pro that they’ll be more likely to find your infodumping socially acceptable or even enjoyable.

kofe,

It could be, which is why my comment “friends, family, therapy” is useful, I think. If you’re noticing a pattern that’s upsetting you that you think could be an issue, talk with your friends, family, and a therapist about it. It can be difficult to identify issues we bring to relationships. It also might not be anything to do with you, though, so that’s where the support from others can prevent a bad pattern of beating ourselves up unnecessarily comes in.

Someone replied that therapy may be inaccessible, but now more than ever there are tons of sliding scale therapists, groups, etc that can meet in person or online, even for free. And honestly, I’m grappling with the issue myself that I need to prioritize my mental health and not let the monetary set back be an excuse. It’s an investment that will pay off

Katana314,

Everyone who’s deflected N rejections and given life advice to others based on that, has not yet experienced N+1 rejections.

deaf_fish,

Was it bad advice, or are you just maudlin because you know I am right?

paddirn,

If romantic comedies have taught me anything, it’s to never take “no” for an answer, and it’s ok to stalk people because it will all just work out in the end when they realize what they’ve been missing this whole time.

vaultdweller013,

This is unironically how my grandparents met, did help that my grandfather was rather intelligent and decently competent. Shame he was a dumbass and gave himself lung cancer, wear a mask when working with aerosols it may save your life.

SuddenDownpour,

Jeez I wonder if the prevalence of this trope could have overreaching social consequences

deegeese, in I prefer it lightly braised...

In this case, “baby” is a mistranslation of chicken.

originalucifer, (edited ) in We aren't gonna like this one..
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

she came from wealth, yes, but she is also incredibly smart. this person has made a lot of decisions their peers have absolutely failed on, including this kind of investment.

she comes from old money, and they must have taught her well. this is not a trust fund kiddie sittin on their laurels, this is a person who leveraged all the resources made available and worked hard to get what she wanted.

e: hate her music, just followed some transaction rabbit holes like the nft bullshit

Riderzz,

Generational wealth = leverage and hard work. Got it 👍. Literally applies to every other rich person such as elon musk and his ideas of tesla and mars.

I agree that she is smart. Never said she wasn’t, some plenty other billionaires that aren’t corrupt also smart.

PP_BOY_,
@PP_BOY_@lemmy.world avatar

Dude fuck off. OP is regarded too but you’re just as bad if you don’t know that wealth creates wealth. It’s literally easier for someone born in Taylor Swift’s position to get richer than it would be for them to get poorer.

Riderzz,

Thank you. I understand you also disagree with me. Thats alright but I hope someone can understand me 👍

originalucifer,
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

ha, ok buddy. calm down. it will be o.k. everything is not on fire.

plenty of very rich people have made very poor decisions and paid for it. plenty of rich people have gone through very good schooling and come out useless lumps of air-wasteing flesh.

dont get yourself all worked up because i pointed out one little rich girl didnt make bad decisions, mmmm'kay?

Riderzz, (edited )

Your the same individual that shits on other rich people like musk, jeff.

Your talking about stupid rich kids who have no idea how money works and then become broke.

You see just like any other celeb, famous person, millionaire. They’re all the same. They work hard and smart. Thats it. The issue on this platform is the hypocrisy.

originalucifer,
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

kk

PP_BOY_,
@PP_BOY_@lemmy.world avatar

everything is not on fire.

The fact that you think this shows how unconscious you are. The simple act of hoarding wealth, even passively (which doesn’t even apply to Landlord Swift), is in itself an act of violence. If you don’t agree with this then please go back to whatever popheads echochamber you hide in.

A person like Taylor Swift isn’t sitting down on Excel at the end of every month trying to put together a budget to make it through the next 4 weeks. It’s a completely automated process for her to amass more wealth, which, in a vacuum economy, means less for the 99% and more for her.

1/10th of her net worth is more money than a whole family could spend in a lifetime. Please stop defending her and her ilk or saying that any of her wealth came from education or smart investments.

CheeryLBottom, in Chicken soup

Chili (homemade)

jayrodtheoldbod, in If only there was a GOOD fish with a gun to save them!

You just need to rebuild the stream so it’s more like a prison, job done.

AVincentInSpace, in We aren't gonna like this one..

People on Lemmy shit all over Taylor Swift already, idk what to tell you

originalucifer,
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

ha, you werent wrong. i just pointed out she worked hard, and made some non-stupid financial decisions and its like a poked a bees nest of billionaire-hate (which i actuallly understand). but god fobid people have a conversation about a humans talent.

Riderzz,

Idk, she goes against right wing and is appluaded on lemmy if you search her name here.

she’s financially smart. She’s got a nice, built diverse portfolio. I don’t understand as an individual, its smart to be rich in this capital society 🤷‍♂️

queermunist, (edited )
@queermunist@lemmy.ml avatar

She didn’t build shit. She paid someone else to build a portfolio that doesn’t outperform the market, same as every billionaire.

I won’t say she isn’t smart, but I will say she can go to a work camp with the rest of them.

Ilovethebomb,

Yep, there’s the Lemmy we all know and love

Riderzz,

🫢

surewhynotlem,

She doesn’t go against the right wing. She’s very strategic about being apolitical. Republicans love her music. She loves their money.

She also loves pussy, but she won’t say that bluntly lest she lose half her fans.

AVincentInSpace, (edited )

She also loves pussy

don’t tell me you’re one of those people who still insists taylor swift is gay after she explicitly said she’s not…

Llewellyn,

Because people never lie, do they?

AVincentInSpace, (edited )

No way. No one is this far gone. No one is so out of touch that they start rejecting reality when it doesn’t conform to their headcanon.

Why would Taylor lie about her own sexuality?

Llewellyn,

To not lose part of the fanbase?

AVincentInSpace, (edited )

You think that, in this day and age, with her political leanings, with the amount that she shouts about them, the woman who wrote and published the song Rainbow Dress would be afraid of coming out as gay to the point of lying when pressed to admit it because she is afraid homophobes will stop listening to her music?

Llewellyn,

Not homophobes. Simps.

AVincentInSpace,

So you’re saying she’s afraid of losing her famously numerous male followers? Or that her female followers (many of whom think she’s gay regardless of what she says in interviews) will start coming on to her because they now think they have a chance?

Llewellyn,

Yes

AVincentInSpace,

Since it appears you missed my sarcasm, Taylor Swift has a statistically insignificant number of male followers, and the ones who would think they have a chance more than likely think she’s gay regardless.

surewhynotlem,

Source?

AVincentInSpace, (edited )
randomsnark, in I prefer it lightly braised...

baby wok do do do do do

Ghostalmedia, in Chicken soup
@Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world avatar

Mamba

jayrodtheoldbod, in Target acquired

He just kills Tom Bombadil and then throws the rifle away, doesn’t like the smell.

SuperIce, in Chicken soup

Tortilla chip

Clepsydrae, in Chicken soup

Blueberry lemon scone. All three would work as a nickname. 😁

Igloojoe, in Blue Fluid !!!

Cops are so fucking dumb. The cap is still on the bottle!

Kusimulkku,

Uhm ackshually the fluid transfers through osmosis. RTFM!

jayrodtheoldbod, in Off to a party with the boys

Gonna smoke fat doinks and make a scene at some expensive restaurants

Ghostalmedia,
@Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world avatar

DO YOU WANT A MICHELIN STAR OR WHAT? GIVE ME FREE CRAB CAKES.

Toes, in Chicken soup

Taco 🌮

Ejh3k, in Chicken soup

Big mac

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