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N0x0n, in Ruffle (a open source re-implementation of adobe flash player) reviews improvements made in 2023

Are flash games still a thing? I remember those old sticky fighting flash games on newsgroupe.

Someone kind enough in webdev to elaborate why someone would care to revive/reimplemente old flash player tech?

Onihikage,
@Onihikage@beehaw.org avatar

Adding to sleepyTonia’s comment, many flash games have been preserved through Flashpoint Archive, which is like an epic DRM-free Steam client for flash games (as well as other web game technologies, like the shockwave player). However, Flashpoint uses old flash player binaries that, as stated, may one day stop working as hardware and operating systems evolve. If that happens, it’ll be great to have a replacement interpreter ready to go that can be compiled to run on newer tech.

sleepyTonia,
@sleepyTonia@programming.dev avatar

Game and media preservation, for one. But I’m sure part of it is the technical challenge. There’s still websites where you can download those old flash games to run them locally, but one day Adobe Flash player will cease to work on modern operating systems.

luca, (edited )

Exactly. Flash was hugely popular, there’s a wealth of content, media, projects and entire websites made with Flash (not just games) that would otherwise be lost and this unbelievable effort brings all that content back to life.

jaykay,
@jaykay@lemmy.zip avatar

I miss the old flash games honestly

N0x0n,

Thanks :) !

Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug,

Homestuck

schnurrito,

Adobe Flash Player was deprecated some years ago, so there is no longer any functioning official software that can play Flash games. The modern equivalent are mobile games.

The reason why reimplementing it is a worthy thing to do is to preserve old software, same reason why console emulators exist.

jol,

No, the modern equivalent is Web HTML5 games.

schnurrito,

From a technical point of view you are right. But commercially, I am pretty sure many companies and developers that used to make Flash games now make mobile games. There are many mobile games that are ports of old Flash games.

jol,

I see mobile games as the commercial successor of Facebook games. But the spirit of flash games stated in the Web scene for sure.

bizdelnick,

Some? It was more than 10 years ago iirc.

schnurrito,

Wikipedia says at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Flash#End_of_life that the EOL was announced in 2017 and took effect in 2020, much less than 10 years ago.

WetBeardHairs,

Yeah but it was an unsecure piece of shit for more than the past decade

bizdelnick,

I remember much earlier announces.

schnurrito,

It was on its way out when smartphones and HTML5 became widely adopted. Smartphones didn’t support Flash and HTML5 made sure that the things you used to need Flash for were just implemented in web browsers. Maybe you remember something along those lines.

bizdelnick,

What I remembered was abandoning Linux NPAPI Flash plugin in 2012. The PPAPI plugin indeed existed for longer time.

princessnorah,
@princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Same section also has this:

In November 2011, about a year after Jobs’ open letter, Adobe announced it would no longer be developing Flash and advised developers to switch to HTML5.

You can see why someone might think it was ten years ago based off this.

IrritableOcelot, in what's a normie KDE distro?

You’re going to get a million answers, mostly people saying to use which distro they’re currently using. In my experience, KDE works just fine on any distro that allows you to install it out of the box, so I would choose based on other attributes of the distro, such as:

  • Package manager: which are you used to?
  • Update cycle: KDE 6 is out soon, so you want something which updates often enough to get it fairly quickly (at least semiannual).
  • Stability: unless you want to have to manually maintain your system and learn how it works, avoid arch and arch-based distros. I have run it, its fine, but it’s not “normie”, and unless you really know what you’re doing, daily driving it can be stressful. Manjaro has the same issues, but takes away some ability of the user to fix them.

For instance, I personally like Debian and apt, but I would not recommend base Debian right now, since KDE 6 is about to come out and Debian will take a loooong time to get it. I have not personally used Kubuntu, but if it gets rid of any the bloat canonical has been adding to Ubuntu lately, it sounds pretty good to me.

comicallycluttered, (edited )

Yeah, Kubuntu’s fine. It has some of the Snap stuff, but the “minimal install” greatly strips down unnecessary bullshit to the point where I even find vanilla Debian Plasma to be more bloated in comparison.

I used Kubuntu for most of my time on Linux before switching to Debian. Still fully recommend it as a basically “plug and play” distro with a quick installer that works OOTB.

There’s also a KDE-specific backports PPA which gets you new Plasma and Qt stuff fairly quickly, but that works best on regular releases rather than LTS releases. (The only issue is that, because it uses Launchpad, the Plasma updates can be super fucking slow to download, regardless of your network speed).

Then again, if someone’s going to be using LTS versions only, there’s not really that much of a difference between it and Debian Stable in terms of DE updates.

avidamoeba, in What's (are) the funniest/stupidest way(s) you've broken your linux setup?
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

Tried to convert Ubuntu to Debian by replacing the repos in sources.list and apt dist-upgrading. 💣 Teenagers…

Empricorn,

I’m as nerdy as they come, but… I don’t think you did teenage rebellion right.

Dagamant,

I thought about trying something like this the other day and quickly reconsidered

maness300, in what's a normie KDE distro?

Manjaro.

Adanisi,
@Adanisi@lemmy.zip avatar

“Stable”, really? Delaying packages isn’t stable, in fact it can break AUR packages.

maness300,

I never had an issue and I’ve been using Manjaro exclusively for 3+ years.

I think Arch has had issues that Manjaro was able to avoid in the meantime because Manjaro doesn’t push updates as quickly as Arch.

JoMiran, in Issues filling forms in PDFs
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

I do a lot of PDF work which requires edits, encryption, etc. Unfortunately the only solution I found that worked for me was a paid one. I use Code Industry’s Master PDF Editor.

lapislazuli,

My upvote goes to Master PDF Editor as well. Only PDF reader/editor that can do annotations and notes sufficiently well, in my very personal opinion.

Jtskywalker,

I’m not opposed to paying for software, especially if it’s good. I’ll try that out and see how it is. Thanks!

shortdorkyasian,

I’ve been a user of Master PDF for years now. It’s my go-to for PDF markup in Linux. Their yearly renewal can be kinda wonky, but their customer service has been excellent.

TCB13, in My First Month of Linux
@TCB13@lemmy.world avatar

realizing that 11 was only going to bring more ads, force-installed applications, background processes that were nigh-impossible to disable without a lot of tomfoolery, AI bullshit and general bloat,

I don’t get this kinds of comments.

I figured that I would try dual-booting Ubuntu,

So you ditched and unethical mega corp that runs ads for a wanna be unethical mega corp that also mines your data and you’re happy about it? Oh boy the illusion.

I feel so much more capable as a computer user with Linux than I ever did on Window

I just hope you don’t require “professional” software such as MS Office, Adobe Apps, Autodesk, NI Circuit Design and whatnot Linux isn’t a viable options. The alternatives wont cut it if you require serious collaboration… virtualization, emulation (wine) may work but won’t be nice. Going for Linux kinda adds the same pains of going macOS but 10x. Once you open the virtualization door your productivity suffers greatly, your CPU/RAM requirements are higher and suddenly you’ve to deal with issues in two operating systems instead of just one. And… let’s face it, nothing with GPU acceleration will ever run decently unless big companies start fixing things - GPU passthroughs and getting video back into the main system are a pain and add delays.

Linux on servers is great, on the desktop if you’ve to collaborate with others who use those apps it’s game over.

Spectacle8011,
@Spectacle8011@lemmy.comfysnug.space avatar

So you ditched and unethical mega corp that runs ads for a wanna be unethical mega corp that also mines your data and you’re happy about it? Oh boy the illusion.

What data mining is Canonical doing, exactly?

Classy,

Don’t worry friend, I recognize that Ubuntu is not quite as far into the ethical FOSS universe as some other distros but at the very least it’s a soft landing for an uninformed new user. I plan on using it long enough to get my sea legs and use my backup PC to test other platforms.

I don’t get this kinds of comments.

Yeah, I’ve never understood people making poorly written snide comments with absolutely zero clarification, either.

professional software

I use what I want and I’m happy with the pickings. I mostly use word processors for journaling and note taking, and the professional software I use (music notation and DAWS) work just fine for my purposes. I say, if I’m content with what I’m using, why do you have to be an ass about it? I don’t care what you use and I wouldn’t land in the comments just to put you on blast for your personal choices.

TCB13, (edited )
@TCB13@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t care what you use and I wouldn’t land in the comments just to put you on blast for your personal choices.

The thing is that this isn’t “personal choices”, I don’t even use most of the solutions I cited, but I happen to know a lot of people who do in different industries and that tried Linux countless times and showed me how poorly things are. I’m talking about managers, designers, engineers, architects - a lot of people with a lot of different needs that would love to be on Linux as much as you do but can’t because it simply doesn’t work out.

Yeah, I’ve never understood people making poorly written snide comments with absolutely zero clarification, either.

Do you really want a properly written comment? It looks like you don’t but I’ll give you one anyways. Just don’t complain like you did when I bluntly said what’s the reality of Linux desktop and professional software.

realizing that 11 was only going to bring more ads, force-installed applications, background processes that were nigh-impossible to disable without a lot of tomfoolery, AI bullshit and general bloat,

Microsoft has multiple versions of Windows and if you are smart enough to install Ubuntu you might as well be smart enough to read about them for five minutes and understand that you if you pick Windows 11 Pro you’ll be moderately clean and Windows 11 Enterprise will be very clean. You’ll also find out that with ANY version you can pick English (World) for a cleaner experience:

Selecting the “English (World)” locale during Windows Setup means you’ll receive fewer advertised tiles in your Start menu once Windows is installed, but it doesn’t change the preinstalled apps that come with Windows (also known as bloatware).

The remaining or all ads and spyware can also be disabled via group policy. When it comes to disabling crap Windows offers way better control than Ubuntu and macOS because it was made for that. There are countess companies and government agencies that force Microsoft to have group policy settings to disable all the “special features” otherwise they couldn’t use it.

Microsoft also has very detailed documentation into this (…microsoft.com/…/manage-connections-from-windows-…) that you can follow to disable what you don’t want. Meanwhile Canonical, Apple and others don’t give shit about users disabling the spyware and the systems sometimes break if you block connections.

So before you say unfounded and dumb things such as “impossible”, “forced” and whatnot go teach yourself about how things really work and what can and can’t be done.

robolemmy, in [QUESTION] I installed Apache OpenOffice
@robolemmy@lemmy.world avatar

Even Oracle, a company that funds OpenOffice and has its own proprietary fork of it, doesn’t use it internally. Oracle internal laptops come with libre office installed.

lemmy_user_838586,

Lol, that’s hilariously an “Oracle” thing to do.

haruajsuru, (edited ) in What's (are) the funniest/stupidest way(s) you've broken your linux setup?

I mistyped my SU password when setup the OS…

jwt,

Suicide Linux?

lemmyreader, in [QUESTION] I installed Apache OpenOffice

Go for LibreOffice or OnlyOffice. Both can be installed natively or with Flatpak or Snap (or maybe AppImage) is a safer bet.

moreeni,
lemmyreader,

Thanks.

captain_aggravated, in What's (are) the funniest/stupidest way(s) you've broken your linux setup?
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

I uninstalled Python.

I was playing around with Pygame of all things, and it wasn’t behaving as the (apparently out of date) documentation was saying it should, so I figured I’d just uninstall and reinstall Python.

EVERYTHING borked. APT wouldn’t even work.

BrianTheeBiscuiteer,

Ha! Came to say this too!

I tried to uninstall Python because I was just trying to minimize junk on my computer and I usually code in Bash, Node or Java.

khannie, (edited )
@khannie@lemmy.world avatar

Oh that’s a good one. It feels like it should be doable and then… BAM

piracysails, in Reddit API blew up and now I run Linux?

If you ever get bored of Ubuntu. You could try fedora kde, the recent versions are so good.

Don’t forget to install codecs though.

Canadian_Cabinet,

That’s exactly what I did haha, started with Kubuntu and moved to Fedora

Goodman,

Yeah those codecs always get you.

ikidd,
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

Save the pain and install Nobara.

Swarfega,

I started this way today but kept coming up with an error with rsync during install. I tried in Virtual Box and had the same error. I gave up and just installed Fedora in the end.

ikidd,
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

No clue what rsync would be doing. Maybe there’s an issue with the current ISO, but I’ve installed it on a few systems in the last couple months with no issues.

CosmicCleric,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

Save the pain and install Nobara.

I mean, it’s one dropdown/checkbox click, to enable codecs sources. I get your point though, having to remember to enable that.

I’d used Nobara if I knew it was being supported by more than just one (great/special; I’m aware of his contribution to gaming on Linux) guy (please correct me if this is no longer the case?), since it would be installed on my daily driver box, and it’s important for me to have a high level of reliability, even though I do more gaming tasks than non-gaming tasks on it.

I’m aware that Nobara is based from Fedora, but am nervous about having a single point of failure, support wise.

limelight79,

I run Kubuntu on my desktop and laptop machines but I’m seriously considering switching to Debian (which I run on my server). Any reason I wouldn’t want to do that on my desktop or laptop?

(Previously I ran Slackware on everything, so both of them feel like gliding softly on a cloud to me.)

gayhitler420,

There’s no reason. I switched to Debian after leaving Slackware around the reiser4 time. It’s real good.

limelight79,

Yeah it seems to work very well on my server. I’ve always just wondered why I don’t see more people recommending it when they’re switching from Ubuntu/Kubuntu. From what I’ve seen on the server (which I mostly access remotely), it seems decent.

gayhitler420,

It’s not cool. It means you have gray hairs. The packages are old by default.

limelight79,

Well I do have some gray hairs, so no issue there…

gayhitler420,

May I recommend lxqt and a trackball?

limelight79,

lol Listen here, sonny…

RuikkaaPrus,
@RuikkaaPrus@lemmy.ml avatar

You probably will not notice that you are in other distro when you start using Debian. They are the same in most things, but without Snaps and most propietary stuff (by default. But if you really need propietary things, you may see the official non-free sourcelist)

limelight79,

Thanks. I often wonder why I don’t see people recommending Debian as a potential destination from Ubuntu/Kubuntu. Why not go to the Free source?

RuikkaaPrus,
@RuikkaaPrus@lemmy.ml avatar

I really do not know. But what I can say for sure is that during the installation of Debian, it allows you to choose the desktop environment at installation time, so you can have your Debian with KDE at minute 0 after installing it.

On the other hand, remember that Kubuntu is derived from Ubuntu. I don’t see Ubuntu fans very enthusiastic about creating another Debian-based distro with KDE preinstalled when they even offer it (live images) to you here.

CosmicCleric,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

You could try fedora kde

I love me some Fedora with KDE, and looking forward to the next major version of KDE.

Swarfega, (edited )

Weird. I’ve been trying to find a distro I’m happy with and was setting Fedora KDE up today. Ran though my bookmarks and found no videos played on Twitch. Had to install codecs to get it to work. I hadn’t seen this in previous distros. Is this specific to Fedora? Other than this hiccup I’ve enjoyed it so far.

I liked how straight forward Linux Mint is but prefer KDE Plasma. Plus Mint seems quite far behind in versions.

baseless_discourse, (edited )

In their gnome version, during the setup process (first boot, not install), they would prompt for third-party repo and codec (Enabled by default, IIRC).

I think you might have unchecked that? or KDE not offering such experience?


EDIT: NVM, I just checked, and I have never installed the codecs… LOL.

Fedora is notorious for avoiding shipping proprietary software with their distro even at the cost of new users.

I think this might stems from the fact that fedora used to be a distro aimed for advanced users. It is slowly getting better at being new user friendly.

Swarfega,

Yeah, I don’t recall seeing that and installed it about four times.

piracysails,

Haha the pain of finding out…

Didn’t you notice the decreased quality?

baseless_discourse,

Yeah, I was wondering why I have desync issues couple days ago watching videos with my wife.

Modern YouTube videos are generally fine, but many other site has poor support for popular codecs.

MiddledAgedGuy,

I wonder if it is notorious?

Do most Linux users (in this context we’ll say people who specifically choose to use Linux and by extension chose a specific distribution) look unfavorably on proprietary software being excluded by default?

For me, I prefer it so I don’t see it that way. But it is also an extra step and an annoyance if you want things to “just work”. Which is an understandable position.

Food for thought, I guess.

piracysails,

It is definitely not, at least for me when I switched to Linux.

I noticed weird issues while watching a video through VLC, posted about it on Reddit and someone suggested that I had not installed the codecs.

unionagainstdhmo,
@unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone avatar

I’d like it if they weren’t necessary and everything was AV1, then I would be alright with the codecs being omitted by default without any simple way to install them.

Similarly with the NVIDIA proprietary driver, NVIDIA actually recommend installing the driver through the package provided through your distro on thier download page

SuperSpruce,

How do I install codecs? I’m running Ubuntu and I don’t have the option to encode in H.265, which I could do on Windows.

piracysails, (edited )

I fas as I am aware, Ubuntu ships codecs by default.

Fedora does not ship proprietary software due to license issues.

*This is just what I know, you should fact check both.

lemmyreader, in Follow-up to installing Arch

From past forums reading I remember that a boot loader in Linux can have trouble booting properly when you use two different physical drives (Rather than one drive and different partitions), I think it needs to specifically get to know about both drives. Does this help ?

Hellmo_Luciferrari,

That very well may help, I read a bit of what you sent. I will have to try when not at work. Thank you!

bismuthbob, in I'm addicted to caring for my Linux distro, polishing things, optimising stuff it's so funny! Got some stories like that?
@bismuthbob@sopuli.xyz avatar

About 90% of what I know about ssh, terminal multiplexing, scripting, and diagnostic programs grew from an optimization project.

I had a vague desire to build a one-stop dashboard where I could monitor, update, and control a half-dozen linux computers at once. It was just for fun, but it kept me reading through the manpages for weeks.

Octopus1348,
@Octopus1348@lemy.lol avatar

That would actually be useful for sysadmins. Did you publish it?

bismuthbob, (edited )
@bismuthbob@sopuli.xyz avatar

I didn’t, but only because my solution wasn’t novel or generalized for other people. I made a script to fire up tmux on a ‘primary’ computer with key-based access to my other computers, load up a set of windows and panes, and ssh into each computer. One window would be computers in one section of my home, another window would be computers elsewhere. The only challenge was getting a baseline grasp of the tmux scripting syntax.

I initially set it up to run htop on each computer (dashboard goal, plus easy ability to terminate programs), but the basic setup was flexible. I could set other programs to run by default or and send terminal command updates to each computer from any device that could ssh into the primary computer. Automating updates on a computer-by-computer basis is a better solution, but the setup let me quickly oversee and interactively start multiple system updates at once, from a phone, tablet, or laptop.

pineapplelover, in Issues filling forms in PDFs

Either firefox or libreoffice draw

Jtskywalker,

Draw is great, and I’ve been able to use it for most of what I used Acrobat for before, but it has issues with converting certain documents, especially when they have special fonts. Also there’s the issue of not being able to just fill out some fields and then share it back as a PDF

BestBouclettes, in What's (are) the funniest/stupidest way(s) you've broken your linux setup?

CTRL-C-ing apt because it looked stuck for more than 10 minutes. I don’t recommend doing it.

maynarkh,

Haven’t used apt in a while, is it not atomic? What happens if you mess with it?

BestBouclettes,

I don’t think it is, if it doesn’t run its course on its own, you’re screwed. It’s Debian so you can recover, but, at least for me, it was painful.

Cwilliams,

Man, gotta love apt sometimes

BestBouclettes,

apt is great, but yeah, if it’s gonna fail, let it fail on its own.

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