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JoMiran, (edited ) in Debian being insanely stable
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

I started my Linux journey in the 90’s with Red Hat Halloween. I’m sick and tired of troubleshooting and Debian based distros have been fully painless. Those of you learning your craft should absolutely try to manage things like Arch, just leave my old and tired ass be and I’ll sit here with my old kernel and cheer you on.

RegalPotoo,
@RegalPotoo@lemmy.world avatar

Yup - if your goal is to use Linux to learn how Linux works and how it’s all put together then Arch is awesome. If you’ve got stuff to do and Linux is a tool to reach another goal, not so much. I like my tools to be stable, reliable and predictable.

Tau, in Opening a full editor is overrated

:%s/warning/error/gn

You don’t even have to touch your mouse

Prunebutt,

Joke’s on you: tiling wm

Andrew15_5,
@Andrew15_5@mander.xyz avatar

With sed command you don’t have to use mouse either.

Tau,

But you have to use your mouse to switch to a new terminal, assuming you are using vscode for everything else

mexicancartel, (edited )

Ctrl+alt+t

$ sed…

ctrl+d

Andrew15_5,
@Andrew15_5@mander.xyz avatar

You assumption is wrong. I’m a chad that only use terminal and Neovim. I don’t need those filthy mouses. I have a touchpad instead that I also rarely use. I have millions of keymaps engraved in my brain, give me a keyboard and a terminal and I will move mountains.

jeffhykin, in Opening a full editor is overrated

sd or nothing. I’m never dealing with sed’s slow and out of date regex ever again

DoomBot5,

Oh look, this one isn’t installed on practically every Linux machine in existence

jeffhykin,

For now 😎

palordrolap,

You know that sed does more than s///g, right?

Someone even wrote a version of dc (the arbitrary precision RPN desktop calculator) with it. They were clearly insane of course, but it proves that sed is more than just find and replace.

Honourable mention to awk's sub() and gsub() that, at least for basic find/replace, do the same thing. awk is often surprisingly quick.

cupcakezealot, in Useless messenger
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

“best i can do is a chromium only web app”

Dfy, (edited )

Works in Firefox for me

aard, in Debian being insanely stable
@aard@kyu.de avatar

There’s the old saying that Debian is available in three flavours: Stale, rusting and broken.

BlueBockser,

broken saying

FTFY

possiblylinux127,

All of which are quite stable.

Phrodo_00,

Stable in the distro context refers to how often packages change. Sid (which is the one that’s broken in that) is not that. The other 2 are stable in that sense, but older software can sometimes be shaky on newer hardware.

joyjoy, in The successor should be called Plan 69 from Bell Labs

I literally learned about this yesterday after I saw it in my WSL process list.

Gork, (edited )

Linux is a gateway drug to operating systems considered most unnatural.

PlasterAnalyst, in Debian being insanely stable

I use BSD BTW

fl42v, (edited )

Freebsd be like: where getopt

Amends1782,

Specifically, OpenBasedSecureDistro, with a desktop environment, for gaming

Please send help, thanks

agressivelyPassive, in The successor should be called Plan 69 from Bell Labs

Thinking about it, it’s weird that there hasn’t been any real change in operating systems for about 50 years. Unix and its derivatives seem to be almost the only game in town, apart from desktops running Windows.

Bishma,
@Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I think the last one to make any real headway was BeOS and they’ve been dying a thousand deaths ever since Apple bought NeXT instead of them. Though admittedly that perspective is coming from a person who used BeOS once in the 90s and has never touched Haiku.

freijon,

What about Fuchsia?

agressivelyPassive,

Is that really different? I thought, it’s just a “regular” OS.

lurch,

It’s because you don’t want to reinvent the wheel all the time. It sucks doing it. Lots of effort. It’s much better to build on existing stuff and maybe improve it for your needs.

agressivelyPassive,

But that’s the thing: is there only one wheel? Maybe wheels are a bad metaphor here, but isn’t it weird, that there aren’t any fundamentally new concepts? Unix was developed basically during the preschool years of computing and we all just kind of stuck with its concepts.

Fuzzypyro,

I have thought the same in my adventures into alternative operating systems.

cucumber_sandwich,

Depends on the level of abstraction you’re looking at. Operating systems today are vastly more capable of organizing different provesses, distributing work amongst multiple CPU cores, CPU caches, etc. I guess the von Neumann architecture has just proven really successful in practice. And von Neumann machines require a certain set of capabilities in their OSes.

Maybe look at embedded systems, where we find a bit more variety. Things like DSPs or microcontrollers.

LordOfTheChia, (edited )

If the underlying concept is good and was well thought out, it’s better to build upon it instead of reinventing it.

Look at the 4 stroke engine (and engines in general) many of the design concepts date back to the 1880s!

There’s other engine designs (ex:rotary engine) but the 4 stroke has over a century of testing, improvements, and refinements. A new design can adapt some of the refinements, but would have to catch up on decades of innovation and testing just to catch up!

On the Unix side, there’s the evolution of the Posix standard (which was based on Unix).

cyanarchy,

I would point out, by comparison, that piston engines are effectively obsolete for certain applications. Most aircraft operate on some type of jet engine, which involves the same core concepts of thermodynamics and aeronautics, but are still fundamentally different. They also optimize for different criteria, which is why neither jet engines nor piston engines hold a monopoly on any class of vehicle.

This is really stretching the computer metaphor. I think my point is that there will be room for rethinking paradigms as our applications of computers grow to include things that weren’t originally planned for. But in a mature technology there’s a lot of established precedent, and that’s not easily overcome. It takes something that can improve the field like jet engines made new aircraft possible.

quantenzitrone,

TempleOS🕌

acockworkorange,

Plan 9 became Inferno and was quite successful as a distributed OS for network appliances.

rikudou, in Text editor war
@rikudou@lemmings.world avatar

As a nano user, I fully agree.

damnthefilibuster,

Seriously. Nano is the best.

Norgur,

I
Seriously... it isn't
Shift+ZZ

agent_flounder, (edited )
@agent_flounder@lemmy.world avatar

vi comment

o right there with ya bud.esc :wq!

GodsKillerKirb,

I HATE that I am still in the habbit of doing esc :wq whenever I want, or need, to save and quit.

rikudou, in Debian being insanely stable
@rikudou@lemmings.world avatar

Can I talk about our lord and saviour, NixOS, in these parts?

blotz,
@blotz@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve tried nix and its just not it. Its got cool ideas tho!

Bishma, in Text editor war
@Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

dgg:wq

ziggurat,

Why did you do that! I deleted my whole file! It was important

Bishma,
@Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I left the G off the beginning as a guardrail.

haych, in Linux mint = best beginner distro

Let me raise you: Pop!_OS

RmDebArc_5,
@RmDebArc_5@lemmy.ml avatar

Maybe they changed it, but when I tried it they didn’t setup a boot loader by default

PeWu,

During install that fucked me up. I found out I only could boot pop os only when booting win 10 bootloader. After bricking distro, moved on to mint.

histic, (edited )

they definitely have every time I’ve installed it you may have just hit install to partition instead of erase drive or something by accident

friend_of_satan, in Everyone loves snaps

Snap made me switch back to Debian. Ubuntu was awesome for a long time, but having snap glommed onto everything so much that it kept showing up on my headless boxes was too much.

morrowind, in Text editor war
@morrowind@lemmy.ml avatar

Really the users of any other editor. We just see you as a bunch of nerds. But you build good stuff

miss_brainfart, in Text editor war
@miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml avatar

xed supremacy

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