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Norgur, in Bye bye edge

It's a little naive to think that this was an incentive to use Linux for ppl in the first place.

Liome, in Come to the Linux side of the force
@Liome@pawb.social avatar

For a sec I thought this was aneurysm posting.

ZILtoid1991, in Bye bye edge
@ZILtoid1991@kbin.social avatar

Edge isn't as bad nowadays, and it's not much more of a spyware than Google Chrome, the meme browser.

Sheeple,
@Sheeple@lemmy.world avatar

Which still is pretty bad. Honestly we should avoid chromium.

But as far as chromium is concerned, yeah Edge is pretty good. I used it until the anti adblock shenanigans

ColdWater,
@ColdWater@lemmy.ca avatar

Same here, switched to FF for almost a year now beside AdBlock Edge is far better than Chrome

Sheeple, (edited )
@Sheeple@lemmy.world avatar

Ayy. Seems like the Edge to Firefox Pipeline is real.

Tbh I switched out of protest, not out of personal issues caused. It’s why I use duckduckgo instead of Google too.

AlexWIWA,

Brave, but true. If one is going to use chrome, then Edge would probably be better for them.

BigDanishGuy, in Bye bye edge

Not being allowed to remove an app has lead about two people to switch from windows in the last 10000years.

Tranus,

Well I guess I’m one of the 2 then

yum,

Me too

Rez,
@Rez@sh.itjust.works avatar

Me three…?

Agent641,

When will the EU force Vim to let users out?

BigDanishGuy,

Hit Esc then type “q!” <- how hard was that? Don’t listen to the vimxit liars

Hominine,
@Hominine@lemmy.world avatar

‘ZZ’ you heathen

badbytes,

You must still be trapped

BigDanishGuy,

I’m very close to just editing that comment

programmer_belch,
@programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Don’t forget the ‘:’ before the q!, when you type ‘:’ you enter command mode, the q command quits the file and putting an exclamation mark after the q doesn’t save the file and forces the file to be closed

BigDanishGuy,

Ok, I may have forgotten about the “:” but I stand by the rest, if you can’t remember how to do a qw, then you can’t be trusted to write to a file.

Thaurin,

So you can’t be trusted to write a file.

BigDanishGuy,

No, I’m not trust worthy

Thaurin,

Thanks for being honest. I’ll ask someone else when I need to write a file.

programmer_belch,
@programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

In the end linux is about choice, if you don’t want to remember the commands to edit with vim, there are text editors like nano or some kind of notepad program from your DE

Buddahriffic,

Or if you want to text edit in hardcore mode, only use :x to exit. For after you’ve gotten used to vim and want to bring back some of the challenge.

HiddenLayer5,
@HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml avatar

Open a new terminal and type sudo killall vim

msage,

reboot to assert dominance

HiddenLayer5,
@HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml avatar

Reject modernity, return to having a single 120v power switch on the front of the computer!

msage,

There was a post about custom PC starting switches, and one built a gong starter. Now that would be a boss reboot.

tdawg,

I know it’s a meme but it’s crazy to me that some people think the average person cares about computers at all (let alone what OS is running)

ThisIsAManWhoKnowsHowToGling,
@ThisIsAManWhoKnowsHowToGling@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Same. Literally the reason I started using Zorin OS was because it was pretty. Not any sort of logical reason, just “Windows is Ugly, Zorin is Pretty”

Honza,

Perhaps you are right, but now those two individuals can finally switch back to using Windows.

captainlezbian,

As one of them, no thank you. Windows is doing plenty of other crap and I don’t like and it turns out linux is kinda fun. Also once I finally understand what I’m doing I can set up a home server and other cool stuff.

Also I’m not european so I can’t actually switch back

KpntAutismus,

having your own NAS rocks! i run jellyfin and adguard under truenas.

captainlezbian,

Yeah I’m just a shit programmer. I just have a few old workstations, a desire to eventually set up a jellyfin setup, and little enough knowledge that the beginner guides are often above my level

KpntAutismus,

honestly, i barely know how to write shit for an arduino. i have no prior experience with software. linux stuff is learning by doing. try something and see if that works. the text tutorials in the documentations are often the best way to install stuff. you’ll eventually figure it out.

Telodzrum,

I still dual boot for a few games and one piece of hardware that just don’t work on GNU/Linux, but I’m almost certainly never going back.

There was an ad for Tik Tok in my Start Menu after the last update. Fuck everything about that sentence.

NoneYa,

It’s even better when you work in a corporate environment, pay more for the Enterprise or Pro version and still get ads about TikTok and Candy Crush forced onto your users! 😁

Why yes, Microsoft, I was expecting for you to forcefully install mobile games onto our computers in our network.

Honytawk,

If your corporate environment didn’t use GPO to just disable the suggestions (just like what you can do on the home edition to get rid of any and all ads), then I suggest they get someone actually knowledgeable in IT to manage their servers.

NoneYa,

That’s not the point. No business should have to create GPOs to stop this sort of shitty behavior when they buy the edition that was specifically made for enterprise use.

You’d have a point for any business that buys the Home edition and then complains about the forced ads/apps.

Duke_Nukem_1990,

Uhh what hardware isn’t working? Is it something really niche? For some reason I like hearing about stuff like that.

blackbird,
@blackbird@feddit.uk avatar

I also keep a windows boot around just for updating my tomtom wirh map updates. Tried under Linux but the mydrive software just will not work. If anyone knows how to update a tomtom rider 400 under Linux, let me know.

Telodzrum,

It’s an old audio card. The output and input work, but it retains the volume level and mix settings as last adjusted in Windows. I’ll replace it eventually with a DAC and amp, which is what we put together for my wife’s build last year.

It’s the nuAudio card (non-pro version) from EVGA. There are a few work around a, one of which is backflashing old firmware to get some level of control in Linux, but I don’t like the tradeoff and a couple of my Elite: Dangerous tools don’t work well on Linux anyway, so I need the Windows install for that.

hemko, in Bye bye edge

Funny because I have edge installed on my Linux laptop for some work stuff

Moshpirit,
@Moshpirit@lemmy.world avatar

You may want to consider quitting then

teejay,

Yeah screw this guy’s income, livelihood, and health insurance because of a web browser for work. Amirite guys?

Moshpirit,
@Moshpirit@lemmy.world avatar

Exactly 😎

Maybe I should have explicitly say I was joking, I didn’t think anyone would think otherwise lol

Honytawk,

You are on linuxmemes here, opinions exactly like that are all too frequent.

sederx,

lemmy user understanding a joke challenge(impossible)

hemko, (edited )

Lol no I’m happy I can work on Linux laptop in the first place.

Also I’m very much enjoying my work right now

Moshpirit,
@Moshpirit@lemmy.world avatar

You can’t be happy with Edge. You might think you are, but that’s just an illusion.

Now, seriously, maybe I should have explicitly say I was joking, I didn’t think anyone would think otherwise lol use whatever you want.

sederx,

lol how is this downvoted it was funny

smort,
@smort@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah I have edge installed on my Steam Deck to play games via xcloud

tetraodon, in Cli for the win

I’m too lazy to look it up. What does the binary say?

hameru,
@hameru@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

“GUI’s are for idiots”

glimse,

It says “I can’t read binary either, I copied and pasted this”

Oxnvat,
@Oxnvat@lemmy.world avatar

The answergui’s are for idiots

JCreazy, in Bye bye edge

It’s going to be one of those things where someone is either going to switch to Linux or they’re not. Most people will take convenience over privacy.

PopOfAfrica,

Honestly, Windows isn’t even that much more convenient. It’s just what people are used to.

Now that I’m used to Linux Windows makes me pull my hair out.

TrickDacy,
@TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

Exactly

Holzkohlen,

Even just creating a functioning bootable usb stick with windows is a pain. Why are those stupid windows iso so damn picky?

Speiser0,

Since when does microsoft windows have good privacy?

Zuberi,
@Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

You misread OP’s comment

Speiser0,

Oh, you’re right. I’m seeing now they were referring to the short term inconvenience of installing an OS, and not comparing windows and linux distros.

onlinepersona, in Text editor war

Both are inferior to IDEs when working locally on a software project 🤷

possiblylinux127,

Not really as both VIM and Emacs are way more flexible. I use Neovim has it uses Lua for configuration and has a ton of plugins

CowsLookLikeMaps, in Come to the Linux side of the force

What a horrible day to be literate

Blum0108,

There’s no way that wasn’t deliberate.

Honza,

Their*

rikudou,
@rikudou@lemmings.world avatar

*Theirs

KpntAutismus,

*they’re’s

Kase,

*theire’ery’rs’

Empricorn,

Doesn’t make it good.

cosmicrookie,
@cosmicrookie@lemmy.world avatar

Their is!

platypus_plumba, (edited )

Remember everyone in the world uses the internet. Some people are in the process of learning English, and they are just starting to interact with it. I’m not a native and it was pretty hurtful when people mocked my best attempts to communicate in their language. Give him a break. I know you’re joking, this is for other people planning to say something mean.

JCreazy, in Linux mint = best beginner distro

I was running Linux Mint until the other day when I found out Linux Mint Debian Edition existed so I installed that. I’m a recent Linux convert and I can safely say that Lemmy might have partially been the reason. I’ve been loving it so far.

JCreazy, in Useless messenger

Why are we installing Whatsapp to begin with?

nixcamic,

Where I live everything is on WhatsApp. You want to get ahold of a business: WhatsApp, friends organizing a party: WhatsApp, want to check the traffic: WhatsApp.

MareOfNights,

Same here. Just check out of society and you’re good (:

BuddyTheBeefalo, (edited ) in Bye bye edge

There are no apple ads on twitter.

miss_brainfart, in Cinnabuntu
@miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml avatar

Scandalous

Prunebutt, in Need to switch to Hanna Montana Linux now

What??? For realsies???

SquishyPandaDev,
@SquishyPandaDev@yiffit.net avatar

Haven’t kept up with Ubuntu, but I believe this. It’s in line with Canonical’s behavior. They are very corporaty

umbrella, (edited )
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

Kind of, they have announcements in the terminal sometimes and telemetry wont go out unless you confirm you want it to. I personally have it disabled, but its not invasive.

rockSlayer, (edited )

This is the “ad”. Personally, I don’t think a little plug like this is worth any kind of fuss. If it were a real ad or something, then yea I would get it.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/d9532407-3580-4780-abe3-eaafe640c3c9.jpeg

Lime66,

I have never seen this ever

majestictechie,

Yeah, plus given you can get pro for free it really seems more like a announcement than an ad. Slippery slope though.

folkrav,

What’s an ad if not a commercial announcement?

Kusimulkku,

I guess it doesn’t seem as much of an ad if it’s something free they’re promoting. As it would be for most users.

folkrav,

It’s a commercial offering with a free tier.

Kusimulkku,

Yes and most users would be in the free tier

folkrav,

So it’s still an ad to a product, or it’s not?

Kusimulkku,

I guess it doesn’t seem as much of an ad if it’s something free they’re promoting. As it would be for most users.

cosmicboi,

This is not what I would consider an ad. I also remember seeing it only once

zzzz,

I mean… It is literally an ad. I don’t see how you could not consider it one. You could claim it doesn’t bother you or isn’t too intrusive or something, but it most certainly is an ad.

cosmicboi,

I agree that it’s not a very intrusive ad

galmuth,

Yeah, this isn’t that bad. It’s just a suggestion after running an apt upgrade. NPM has similar plugs which I don’t find too annoying.

In fact its not even as intrusive as NPM’s funding requests, as it is only 2 lines of text, plus it looks like Ubuntu Pro is free for personal use.

Th4tGuyII,
@Th4tGuyII@kbin.social avatar

While I'm not bothered by this in particular, like other people have said, it feels like the top of a very slippery slope that I would be bothered by

rockSlayer,

That’s pretty much how I feel about it. This specific method is alright by me, but it could very easily become something intrusive.

daftwerder,

this plus the snap crap they’ve been doing was enough for me to switch to Debian

spudwart, (edited )
@spudwart@spudwart.com avatar

I went through the entire cycle.

  • Ubuntu
  • Pop_OS!
  • Mint
  • Manjaro
  • Arch
  • Fedora

And finally I’m at Debian.

dukatos,

You missed Slackware

Rodeo,

And he still hasn’t arrived at Gentoo.

crispy_kilt,

He’s still compiling

crispy_kilt,

Did you just tell us that you did in fact use Arch?

spudwart,
@spudwart@spudwart.com avatar

I once used Arch, but I decided to go to Debian as it is stable.

sederx,

It is a real ad though…

TangledHyphae,

Technically, but it’s coming from the same servers your packages are being downloaded from, right?

DmMacniel,

I don’t think that’s from a server but instead it’s baked into apt. Or some post-install trigger.

TangledHyphae,

Post-install trigger was my guess… I used to have to build .rpm’s unfortunately but no apt experience yet.

theneverfox,
@theneverfox@pawb.social avatar

I agree that I wouldnt call that an ad, but it’s a pretty distasteful plug

aberrate_junior_beatnik, (edited )

I’ve been getting ads like these for years on my ubuntu server.


<span style="color:#323232;">n additional security updates can be applied with ESM Apps.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Learn more about enabling ESM Apps service at https://ubuntu.com/esm
</span>

This is on a machine running 20.04. Never bothered me. All my other machines are Debian now, and at some point I’ll switch that one too.

Grabbels,

I see a lot of people comment that this isn’t that bad and that it might even be acceptable, and that’s exactly the problem here: it’s a gateway drug and if we normalise this, Canonical will keep pushing the limits of what they can pull off before it’s not acceptable anymore, and that sounds when it’s too late.

Diplomjodler,

An ad is an ad and this definitely is an ad. This is the kind of shit that made me quit Windows and it would make me quit Ubuntu if I was using it.

rockSlayer,

Different strokes and all that. I’m personally ok with the way this is done, but I can also see why people wouldn’t like it at all

jaybone,

I use Ubuntu and I haven’t seen ads in the terminal.

But I see everyone complaining about them.

What am I missing here?

halvo317,

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  • batmaniam,

    I’m newer to linux, and kind of a moron, but I 1) bounced off Ubuntu and 2) haven’t seen this crap with Debian.

    v81,

    I think this is the best take. This alone if it went nowhere is fairly harmless.

    But I think we know what it really is, is the start of a slippery slope.

    folkrav,

    This. Any unsollicited communication that’s meant to make you investigate or buy a commercial product is an advertisement. That’s all. Is it less intrusive than the TikTok ad in Windows start menu, I think it may be, but it’s still an advertisement, by definition.

    Kusimulkku,

    Ubuntu Pro seems to be free for regular users (on up to five machines).

    Would bother me a lot more if it wasn’t a free service. Now it’s ehh

    folkrav,

    As I mentioned in another comment, it’s still a commercial offering, that happens to have a free tier. Would we be okay with a YouTube link in the same spot?

    Honestly, it doesn’t bother me that much. It’s more that you can see a more and more corporate-y trend in Canonical’s decision making, which I personally don’t really care for. If I used Ubuntu with the default shell I’d probably just override the MOTD and go on with my life.

    Kusimulkku,

    Would we be okay with a YouTube link in the same spot?

    Like, promoting Youtube or just a link to a Youtube video promoting Ubuntu Pro or what do you mean?

    folkrav, (edited )

    A link promoting any other commercial product with a free tier. Like AWS, or YouTube.

    Kusimulkku,

    I wouldn’t be really bothered if Google promoted Youtube in their product. I’d expect it, really.

    _dev_null,
    @_dev_null@lemmy.zxcvn.xyz avatar

    Is it less intrusive

    For me it is, I would’ve never ever expected an ad on cli, on a local install, on my machine.

    Logged into an ec2 and see an advert? Sure. But not on my own shit. It’s a true “ah fuck I can’t believe you’ve done this” factor.

    jimmydoreisalefty, in Need to switch to Hanna Montana Linux now

    Oh no…

    Why would they do this to themselves?! Why?!

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