Still needs waaay more effort just to do (some) simple stuff a normal person might just expect to work.
Just installed Mint on a laptop to replace W10. Went really smoothly, and was quite impressed.
Thought I’d try a bit of emulation with Yuzu. Wanted to use a Switch pro controller. Plug and play? Nope. Tried Xbox one controller instead. Neat. Works. I can live with that.
But then thought I’d try a bit of Xbox game stream. No controller works with browser. Try obvious things to fix.
Looked for answers and they’re all like, someone going: oh, you just need to clone the controllerwaffelen driver from git, then just compile the installer using the command sudo apt get- monkeyshyte wtf -make then run the installer from the folder using cmake- getfuckednoob.
I don’t know what any of this is. Tried following instructions.
And, frankly, I cannot be fucked to spend four hours finding out / troubleshooting for something I would have thought was fairly coomon.
It’s not a deal breaker, it’s just another bit of faff and fuckaboutiness that puts me off. And, I suspect would others even less tech minded.
I agree, and that 80% was surprisingly pleasant and smooth experience, compared to my last stab at Linux, about 10 years ago. At least this time I didn’t git any driver issues.
But, that last 20% can be kind of a big deal if you need anything from within in…
I’d like to have the time to learn how to use Linux properly, but between a full time job (unrelated to an OS), young family, and other commitments it’s just not a priority.
I had a play out of interest, and it’s pretty good, but still not 100% usable “out of the box” for me. And how to do that remaining 20% is completely out of many Linux-naive users experience (using the terminal / command line). 20 clicks is easier, as all I’m doing is confirming yes or no on something, that I’m usually given enough information and context to be able to evaluate.
And I suspect that’s true of many many others. Which was the point of my original reply (which I’d hoped to be more humorous than insulting to people, but c’est la vie…).
To try and put it in another context:
It’s really nice to be offered a lift somewhere I need to get to, but if I get kicked out the car and have to walk the remaining 20% of the way, then next time maybe I’ll just get the bus/train/taxi. It might cost more, but at least I know I won’t have to worry if I’ll get there or not.
Also, as a new user, I didn’t know why I was seeing multiple versions of the same packages to install (flatpak etc). Googling to see which is best leads to the inevitable answer of “It depends”, which a new user might not be able to answer…
(I’m not so much speaking to you directly, and I know this is a meme post, but I’m more thinking about the handful of people in the community who seem to always reply along the lines of “people should switch to Linux, because [reason here]. And, yes, people need to learn how to x”, without demonstrating any understanding of nuance around other people’s competing priorities / skills / abilities.)
I understand your frustration, and I’ll try to provide a solution that’s as straightforward as possible. While Linux offers a lot of customization and power, it can sometimes require more technical effort for specific tasks like controller setup.
Checking Compatibility: First, let’s ensure your Xbox controller is compatible with Linux Mint. Most Xbox controllers should work well, but it’s good to verify.
Configuration: Linux Mint typically uses the XInput system for game controllers. Sometimes, extra configuration is needed to get controllers working smoothly.
Reboot: It’s a simple step, but sometimes restarting your computer can help resolve hardware recognition issues.
Updates: Make sure your system and packages are up to date. Open a terminal and run:
Install “xboxdrv”: If the built-in driver isn’t working as expected, you can try installing the “xboxdrv” package, which can provide better controller compatibility. Run:
This command should help with controller recognition.
CMake and Driver Compilation (if needed): If the previous steps don’t resolve the issue and you’re instructed to compile a controller driver using CMake, follow these additional steps:
Cloning the Repository: Use the git command to clone the controller driver repository from Git. Replace `` with the actual URL of the repository:
Installation: After successfully building the software, you may need to install it. This can usually be done with the following command:
<span style="color:#323232;">sudo make install
</span>
Browser Game Stream: If you’re using a web browser for Xbox game streaming, ensure you’re using a browser that fully supports it. Google Chrome is a good choice for this.
Test: Finally, test your controller in a web-based game streaming service like Xbox Cloud Gaming to see if it works as expected.
If these steps don’t resolve the issue, please provide more details about your system, controller model, and any error messages you encounter during the process. I’ll do my best to assist you further.
English is not my first not language. When I write something down in my first language (polish), it feels more like I’m transcribing things I silently say to myself, while with english I’m actually thinking about every word I type.
The funny thing is, the better I am getting at English, making those types of mistakes is getting easier for me.
It doesnt work with sudo though sadly. It’s not the biggest problem tho, just a small annoyance, using the occasional sudo nano to edit files isnt a big deal.
Serious question , my laptop is getting old. 7-8, years now I don’t want to put money in tech for w new one. I want to use it with Linux , as I just use for very Norma stuff and Zero gaming. My use cases will be use of office, use if browsers, simple image editors, pdf reader and manipulation, copying images from to and from HDD , copying media to HDD etc. Connecting iPhone, android for file uploading download etc.
I don’t want hassle of
Find a reaposiroty, install an extra ackages except for softwares
Give any command viq terminal. 3.find any dependency for ANYTHING
Use it as regular person
What Linux will just work? I mean simple install and start using.
I’d recommend you just try one of the mainstream distros with gnome or KDE. Something like Ubuntu, mint, fedora etc and see if you like it. There’s going to be a short period where you’ll need to adapt to the new environment, but you’ll be fine afterwards.
iTunes will probably be the toughest. I lean on iTunes for syncing files, media, local backups and if I had to ditch Windows tomorrow and decided Linux, I would set up iTunes in a Windows VM since I don’t think there’s any other workaround currently.
There are still random snags and blocks to things you will probably expect or want to be able to do.
That being said, it’s sooooo much better than is was. If those snags are minor and not irritating for you, you’ll be able to work around them, I think.
And the wider community can be friendly and helpful, though not always empathetic / fully understanding of the lack of Linux knowledge you might be starting from, (again) in my experience.
Haven’t tried to print anything yet either…printers always seem to Bork on nearly every OS…
Edit: first installed Linux mint this week on a dell XPS laptop.
how about using winword ? and excel. I know there exists alterntives on linux, but I have seen that open office wrekcs havoc on document formatting. is there a if not as good as , but next to good word editor for linux and is it out of box ?
Sorry, not actually used any Linux office packages yet. Briefly used office365 online, which was, as you’d expect, more or less the same experience as windows / Mac.
Have had a look around and there are, apparently, as many opinions about which Linux office suit is best as there are possible usage situations or different office suits… 🥲
Get a Thumbdrive and flash it with Ventoy, load it up with every ISOs you want to try and vive each one a go, the one that works nest for you, is the one you keep.
I honeslty haven’t had any issues with it. But I’m sire others are. I feel like that’s the biggest challenge since there’s a ton of distros and architectures
I get all the reasons why people hate snaps, and I think they’re all valid. And I appreciate people looking out for others and warning them about problematic software.
But man am I lazy, and I was really happy I didn’t need to set up Docker just to run Sonarr on Bazzite. I’m pretty new to Linux, and that looked like a whole intimidating process.
I find Redhat annoying with how they lock down access to KB articles unless you have a subscription and certain "proprietary " things they do but I managed over 500 RHEL 7 and 8 servers at my previous job and I will say that their support is excellent, and RHEL is rock solid. Satellite server on the other hand, that thing is a steaming pile of garbage…
Yeah Satellite was the worst thing about managing RHEL but it’s still leagues better than similar products for Windows. We basically just used Sat for licensing and as a local repo so it wasn’t too bad for that. We started using Ansible more just as I left my sysadmin career. Lots of rhel with rac and jboss.
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