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mateomaui, in An unbiased comparison of linux distributions' setup

Debian guy could have saved time by connecting to lan after boot and installing the wifi package directly.

everett,

Or for laptops with no Ethernet, USB-tether a phone.

mateomaui,

I completely forgot there are laptops with no lan port now.

dezmd,
@dezmd@lemmy.world avatar

NOT IN THIS HOUSE THERE AREN’T, YOUNG MAN!

user224,
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

For some reason, this didn’t work on my old phone after installing PixelExperience 11 on it.
There’s a third way. Bluetooth. At least you don’t need a cable, and you’ll save power.

For that reason, I usually use Bluetooth instead of Wi-Fi, unless I need higher bandwidth (except during peak hours of network usage, when my connection speed is below 1Mbps anyway).

caseyweederman,

Or installed Bookworm.

mateomaui,

Guess it depends on hardware, I still had to add the wifi driver for bookworm.

HyonoKo,

Happened to me a few times already that the ethernet drivers are unfree.

mateomaui,

WHAT?! I would have never guessed that. Lan has always seemed to be the one part that’s dependable, no matter what’s booting.

HyonoKo,

Last time was the integrated lan card in an MSI motherboard if I remember correctly.

_cnt0,

shakes fist at heaven

Damned thou shalt be, Atheros gigabit ethernet chip!

pelya, in An unbiased comparison of linux distributions' setup

You don’t install Fedora. You buy a server with pre-installed Fedora and a three-year support contract.

You don’t care about updates. You don’t care if it breaks. You just get a replacement server, covered by a contract.

ninjan,

While RHEL and Fedora are siblings we can’t mix em’ like that. At least I haven’t ever seen a server with Fedora pre-installed, or anyone offering support on a Fedora server…

pelya,

We have a piece of fancy and expensive radio equipment in the office, the control part is a Fedora server, with precompiled binaries that run that piece of hardware. Every system library has frozen version, if you upgrade the OS the whole system stops working, and you just reinstall the disk image from the archive, and by reinstall I mean use dd to overwrite the hard drive partition from a supplied DVD.

ninjan,

Huh, at least it’s Linux I guess? I’ve seen plenty Windows XP hanging around controlling expensive medical equipment and one time even a system were the control part was Windows 3.1. Air gapped not for security but because the server didn’t have a NIC.

_cnt0,

You really shouldn’t run fedora on production servers.

sharkfucker420, in An unbiased comparison of linux distributions' setup
@sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml avatar

And I’ll keep using it

trash80, in An unbiased comparison of linux distributions' setup

When did Arch replace Gentoo?

zeet,
@zeet@lemmy.world avatar

You think a Gentoo user would appear in a comic with a graphical interface?

qwertyqwertyqwerty, (edited )

It takes an extra 16 months of work or so, but you can technically get a GUI working in Gentoo.

/s

tdawg,

You just made me choke on tea. I hope you’re proud

lankybiker, in An unbiased comparison of linux distributions' setup

Like you don’t need to fix shit with Fedora

It’s good but it’s not left perfect

umbrella, (edited )
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

I barelt have to fix anything at all in Ubuntu/Fedora type distros unless I want to do different/specific stuff.

c0mbatbag3l,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

All my peripherals, NICs, and basic services worked out of the box. I had games up and running in fifteen minutes.

Mine’s not technically stock fedora, but still.

Damage,

Tbh I don’t remember the last time I had to fix something on Fedora…

RiderExMachina, (edited )

There are some minor choke points (restorecon if installing with a “dirty home” and installing RPMFusion), but yeah, otherwise it does a great job of staying out of your way.

Pantherina,

For me:

  • remove fedora flatpak
  • add flathub
  • remove preinstalled bloat (especially annoying on GNOME as these apps all have weird names)
  • add user to libvirt plugdev groups
  • setup automatic updates is weird, packagekit sucks a bit
  • Gnome software sucks, KDE Discover + Flatpak is way easier. But the flatpak backend is probably preinstalled
  • add rpmfusion on KDE needs CLI poorly, but nothing unfixable
  • install libavcodec-freeworld
Pacmanlives, in So, timeshift or NixOS?

Ah yes do the old snapper rollback of ZFS if that’s your bag baby

v4ld1z, in An unbiased comparison of linux distributions' setup
@v4ld1z@lemmy.zip avatar

I won’t stand for the vegan bashing

surewhynotlem,

Of course not. With the lack of iron and protein you need to complain while sitting.

-a vegetarian

RubberElectrons,
@RubberElectrons@lemmy.world avatar

Don’t mock too much, that lack of B12 be sneaking up on us both lol

JoMiran, (edited )
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

I’m vegan for health reasons and I have yet to meat one of the infamous vegans the stereotype portrays. I ask questions, look for recipes, etc, and everyone has been super nice. I think “those vegans” live primarily on Twitter and Reddit.

PS: I’ve had a working Linux system in daily use since I started back with Red Hat Halloween and I prefer Debían based installs like Pop!_OS and Mint D. Nothing against Arch but I ain’t got time to fight the OS as well as my work.

EDIT: The typo stays.

Faresh,

This is very likely my very environmentally influenced view, but I think there was a period of time where being vegan was a trend among the health hipsters, who weren’t vegan due to ethics, but because either everyone else was doing it or because they claim it has massive health benefits like they did for paleo, keto or other diets. Those I think could indeed fit that stereotype. Or maybe I’m living in a fairy tale.

otp,

They’re also on Lemmy. I haven’t been here long, but I’ve already seen 2.

One is right here in another comment chain, lol

captainlezbian,

I’ve met one or two. It’s like fine, it’s a major lifestyle change often associated with ethics that sets you aside from most of society. Many folks have a period of a few months to a year or two of being really annoying about shit like that. It happens with all sorts of folks: linux and arch users, freshly out queer people, people getting into polyamory, new converts to religions… frankly atheists and people who just converted to Christianity are the worst about it in my experience. And yeah these people are annoying. You’ve been annoying too I’m sure, we all have, it’s part of being a person and the people being annoying about these things are typically doing so at an age where some variant of that is a common experience

jacobc436,

Surprisingly sane take, I forget sometimes that not everything on the internet is straight cynicism. Ty.

JoMiran, (edited )
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

I’ve been annoying? I’VE BEEN ANNOYING?!? I take offense of your liberal use of the past tense, Captain.

I hear ya though. I guess I’ve been lucky in my interactions, but the memes make it seem like it’s constant and ever present with vegans, and that doesn’t match with my experience outside of the Internet.

Samsy,

Yeah, that’s too much.

I eat chicken, btw.

Just_Pizza_Crust,

Part of being vegan is understanding you’ll be mocked and criticized for completely unrelated things. Like Bubly sparkling water or blue denim, for example.

seaQueue,
@seaQueue@lemmy.world avatar

I know what you mean, I always sit down first.

Cornpop,

I’ll stand for it in your absence.

_cnt0,

Do you do CrossFit™?

mihnt,
@mihnt@lemmy.world avatar

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  • kttnpunk,
    @kttnpunk@lemmy.world avatar

    You have elevated levels of stress hormone (and deserve it) if you eat animals, btw.

    vettnerk, (edited )

    Then WTF did the plants do to you?

    captainlezbian,

    They know what they fucking did. They domesticated my species

    kttnpunk,
    @kttnpunk@lemmy.world avatar

    Hmmm, Greatly lower my risk of heart disease and parasites overall? Allow me to enjoy deep-frying and carbs guiltlessly? Make me feel like I can fight god and win?

    LemmysMum,

    Vegans just casually setting up a class system upon which to value one life above others.

    VaultBoyNewVegas,

    Cannibals are the real equalists. They don’t discriminate on where their meat comes from and probably eat some veggies with their braised butt.

    LemmysMum,

    I respect the life of my vegetables as much as I respect the life of my meat, show me a vegan who says they do likewise and I’ll show you a hypocrite.

    Zacryon, (edited )

    Sooo when was the last time you had dog?

    LemmysMum, (edited )

    You mean a form of life that I give better care and affection to than they would receive in the wild? About the same time I had a house plant.

    I’ll let you guess which one I don’t have anymore because I realised I lacked the skills and capacity to care for it adequately. Hint: it wasn’t the dog.

    When was the last time you made direct statements instead of disingenuous leading questions?

    Zacryon,

    You mean a form of life that I give better care and affection to than they would receive in the wild?

    No. The last time you ate dog.

    By the way, there are not many dogs in the wild. There wouldn’t be many dogs at all if we wouldn’t breed them.

    When was the last time you made direct statements instead of disingenuous leading questions?

    Regularly. Yesterday before I went to bed must have been the last time. But I tend to make exceptions when I smell narrow-minded condscending bullshit.

    How is your equal respect for vegetables and meat reflected in your daily actions and decisions, also – but not only – considering your diet?

    You probably don’t eat dog, do you? If not, how is that not hypocritical? The one animal you eat, the other you don’t. So much for an equal respect and treatment.

    Even if, how do you respect the life of the meat you eat? Do you care for each cow yourself? Do you make sure that they are not bred for efficiency, neither having pain nor experiencing fear, live in absolute freedom until they die a natural death and only then you eat their remains?

    LemmysMum,

    I smell narrow-minded condscending bullshit.

    Zacryon,

    gz

    PainInTheAES,

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    isolatedscotch, in Oh no ...
    BlackPit,

    lmao. Nice!

    dukk,

    Seems to be the same person too!

    Lamb, in So, timeshift or NixOS?

    Lowkey miss reinstalling for the clean feel, but EndeavourOS feels clean. The only issue I had was a leftover hidden Diablo 4 files which didn’t get removed when everything else got removed, I think from Lutris(?). Never touching Lutris again.

    Sunrosa, in So, timeshift or NixOS?

    My Windows installation breaks and has to be installed every 9 months on average and its so fun

    TheFerrango,

    Reinstalling Windows hasn’t been fun since Windows 7. The OS already has most drivers and automatically downloads everything else, I miss skimming through pages of drivers to find the correct one.

    Jeknilah,

    You’re telling me that making a Microsoft account isn’t fun? It’s truly a process I look forward to. Cortana is literally the friendliest AI waifu assistant I could ever ask for, how can I say no when she asks me to give up my privacy?

    TheFerrango, (edited )

    Creating a Microsoft account is as easy as “next next done”, where’s the fun in that?.

    Cortana was great on Windows Phone (mostly because I love Jen Taylor’s voice), but they kept taking away features and was basically useless on the desktop which, imho, has no use for an assistant.

    regbin_,

    Sounds like PEBKAC.

    plague_sapiens,
    @plague_sapiens@lemmy.world avatar

    Been there, started scripting with PowerShell to have an after-setup-script to change reg entries, install tools (mostly through choco), run them (like dism++ cleanup and o&o shutup10 privacy tweaks) and migrate data from backups. Setting up and migrating took me usually 3-4h of work, sometimes more. With the scripts it’s just: Install Windows, update, reboot, update, reboot, run the script, reboot. Done. It’s like 30min of work.

    Good thing I changed to linux, cause you can automate the whole process and preseed it into a debian image or kickstart rpm-based distros. It’s possible to do customized Windows images too. I have tried a lot of times. It never worked like it was supposed to.

    feef, (edited ) in So, timeshift or NixOS?

    Remember the windows XP & HDD days when you would reinstall windows every new year so it ran smoother xd

    ThePhoDit, in There's still room for improvement, but Linux gaming has come a long way in a short time.

    The only think keeping me from wiping Windows from my machine is Ubisoft anthicheat lol

    Immersive_Matthew, in Oh no ...

    I don’t get it. I am on sh.itjust.works and yes I see the odd Linux post, but not so many that it stands out. I am even on many tech subscriptions. This seems overblown.

    pascal, in So, timeshift or NixOS?

    LoL my current Gentoo system was installed like 12 years ago and moved on 5 different hardware platforms without a proper reinstall.

    I have said myself to never peek in the /etc directory for any reason! 😅

    optimal,
    @optimal@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    How does your home directory look?

    brakenium,

    Who cares with storage nowadays? I just use filelight or command line based tools to determine big storage hogs when I need to

    optimal,
    @optimal@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    I just mean, do you ever get scared of showing hidden files in your hone directory? My install isn’t even a year old, and I do.

    brakenium,

    I just scroll past those. I have set my XDG dirs which helps. If I were to reinstall it would be back once I have everything I need

    Case,

    I know a little linux, but obviously I’m still learning. I’ve picked up everything I know on my own, for the most part - internet guides from the linux community tend to be pretty solid, and I know enough to not totally FUBAR my system.

    Is there a listing of standard linux directories and what they’re for? Lite /etc, things like that. Because I seem to find bits of different stuff in a variety of directories.

    I’ve recently moved to linux on my gaming rig, which is my daily driver - that being said, it is mainly for gaming. Anything can surf the web or play videos and shit, for the most part.

    starman, (edited )
    @starman@programming.dev avatar

    Most distros follow the https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard

    Edit: also, check out this video by Fireship

    Sanguine,

    Thanks for this. New linux user and this helped me understand a bit better why files go where they go.

    starman,
    @starman@programming.dev avatar

    No problemo

    Waker, (edited ) in Oh no ...

    I feel like this, but instead of Linux it’s communism BS. Lol

    Vox,

    bro you don’t feel like this because of “communists”, it’s because you’re a landlord and there’s a lot of news about the housing crisis.

    p.s. get a real job.

    Waker, (edited )

    I have a real job. How do you think I bought the house?

    Perhaps you should spend less time online being a toxic cunt and focus on working instead.

    P.S. Going through my post history? Get a life.

    cupcakezealot,
    @cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    i got bad news for you about lemmy

    Waker, (edited )

    Yeah, I’m kinda mad at all the Spez/3rd party app stuff, but the constant hate has got me thinking about leaving lemmy. It’s sad because I like the idea behind lemmy but people have no respect.

    I like hearing different sides of things but absolutely everything is political here and it’s either black or white. Ffs

    AVincentInSpace,

    absolutely everything is political here and it’s either black or white. Ffs

    Welcome to social media in general

    Waker,

    True that’s why I don’t have any “traditional” social media, except for YouTube I guess?

    I mostly use lemmy/YouTube and from time to time I really can only find some niche community on reddit so I have to give in.

    But no political content whatsoever, that’s why lemmy shocked me a bit.

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