possiblylinux127,

Sway is better because it uses wayland

bbito,

Hyprland babyyy

pimeys,

Been using sway for years now. Not even thinking about it, it doesn’t jump to my face and works the same and never changes. Just what I need so I can focus on my work.

Anticorp,

I’ve been wondering if we’re losing users. My “Everything” feed sorted by Active is full of posts with zero comments, and a great deal of them are just news article links that were probably automated.

Dudewitbow,

It why i default sort to hot, and longterm browse by top 12H

trash80,

a great deal of them are just news article links that were probably automated

And many of those are reposts.

Rentlar, (edited )

Active is kind of a lackluster sorting method imo, Hot is awesome bc you get fresh posts (like Trending on that other site) aside from a couple 3M old posts that show up, Top 6h, 12h, Day are good too. New comments is cool if you want well engaged posts.

Anticorp,

Thanks for the recommendation. I assumed active meant people were engaging, but I guess up-dooting counts as engagement.

plague_sapiens,
@plague_sapiens@lemmy.world avatar

I recently joined lemmy, because fuck reddit. And that’s the first thing I saw. Lots of posted articles without comments. What do I do to combat that? Posting comments xD

Anticorp,

I’ve found a lot of user generated posts here to contribute to, but the article thing has started occurring more often recently.

oldfart,

Yeeeah just after Reddit died all kinds of people were there, now it’s just the usual Linux users and the scripts creating fake traffic

ZMonster,
@ZMonster@lemmy.world avatar

Self hosting, at least for lemmy, is absolute trash. I have been told a few times when asking questions that, “it is expected that you are thoroughly experienced with Linux” to be able to follow the mediocre guides. And they are trash if you are a newbie.

So people like me, who would love to use Lemmy for non Linux things, am posting almost entirely about Linux problems.

the_q,

The Linux community as a whole has a real problem with being snobs to new users.

Nobsi,
@Nobsi@feddit.de avatar

snobs, yes. Cunts even.

Fungah,

The fact that Google and bing are aggressively fucking search to death doesn’t help much.

Nobsi,
@Nobsi@feddit.de avatar

What does google and bing making search worse have to do with stackoverflow and serverfaults linux users being snobs?
Or 70% of lemmy circle jerking over how much superior linux is.

Vespair,

I think they just meant if you’re a total Linux newbie, one who might not even be familiar with stackoverflow, trying to troubleshoot Linux via a typical search engine (a very normal thing a normal newbie who doesn’t know better would do) won’t lead to helpful results do the current enshitification of Google and Bing. I’m pretty sure that’s all they meant bro

zeppo,
@zeppo@lemmy.world avatar

I wouldn’t expect running a publicly accessible server on the internet to be easy or a great idea for someone not familiar with the OS they’re using. Great way to learn, though.

Bakkoda,

Yeah I’ve got a proxmox cluster and I’ve been using Linux for decades but I wouldn’t dare host something that a LOT of users are going to access. I don’t know nearly enough about netsec and I can guarantee my vlan practices probably aren’t perfect, etc.

Nobsi,
@Nobsi@feddit.de avatar

I have a solution for you. Just don’t have your Internet facing things on the same /24 as your home stuff. Why vlan if you can just separate them by network and switch.

Or: just do it anyways. I learned most shit after everything broke. Not before.

xantoxis,

And how do you learn, then, from this project, if people are shitty about your questions?

I’m a sw engineer. I’ve been doing every kind of application management, development, and systems design for 25 years, nearly all of that in Linux, and I still need things answered about running apps in proxmox. I’m not coming to a Lemmy community for those answers, I’ll tell you that.

zeppo,
@zeppo@lemmy.world avatar

I haven’t tried to get community tech support on Lemmy, so I wouldn’t know what it’s like firsthand. If people are really that difficult, sure, that sucks. But it sounds like the person asking needs to work on more fundamental linux skills than something specific to running a Lemmy instance, and the internet is full of information about that.

ZMonster,
@ZMonster@lemmy.world avatar

I get that, but here we are. It’s something I want to do. I’ve been at it for 6 months and I’ve managed to get the site working twice, but am still struggling with SMTP. Digital ocean blocks smtp and send grid breaks the site.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

zeppo, (edited )
@zeppo@lemmy.world avatar

SMTP in general is a pain to configure. I ran my own mail servers for a while and finally gave up and used a 3rd party service. Too many problems with antispam restrictions, and things like I’d finally get it configured, upgrade postfix or whatever and then it would all be screwed again.

Thann, (edited )
@Thann@lemmy.ml avatar

If you never used windows before and were trying to do something complicated like self hosting on it, you would be having nothing but issues…

Nobsi,
@Nobsi@feddit.de avatar

Not really. There’s tutorials for everything and most of them still work 20 years later.
vs you installed ubuntu 20 and now youre trying to follow a 16 tutorial.

Gabagoolzoo,

Would recommend using Docker (container) and Caddy (reverse proxy) to self-host as a newbie, streamlines everything and only basic Linux knowledge required (although you do have to learn Docker commands).

guskikalola,
@guskikalola@vivaldi.net avatar

@Gabagoolzoo @ElCanut @ZMonster You could even use Portainer and forget about commands ( I rather use the cli as compose files are better imo )

pete_the_cat,

I haven’t looked into it, but I’d imagine that it’s your basic LAMP/LNMP stack.

Rodeo,

Congratulations, you’ve discovered the struggles of learning an esoteric hobby. Often the learning curve is steep like that. And often you will encounter elitist twits trying to push you back down the curve. But they cannot keep you from knowledge. It sounds like you’re already discovering some of the rewards.

ZMonster,
@ZMonster@lemmy.world avatar

Oh yes, I’ve been using the ansible method of deploying and I have it very close, I just can’t get SMTP working. I’ve set up an account with send grid but letsencrypt keeps telling me I’ve passed the limit for certs and every time I try to deploy it says I have to wait another week to try. I would remove certs but since I’ve already wiped those out, I don’t know what they are or how to find them.

m_r_butts,

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  • mr_right,
    @mr_right@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Amin to that

    thethirdobject,

    *Admin

    cows_are_underrated,

    *sudo

    cows_are_underrated,

    When I started with Linux I used Mint with cinnamon. It’s great for people who switch from windows to Linux, but after trying kde and gnome I don’t miss it in any way.

    JCreazy,

    I thought that’s what it was for

    backhdlp,
    @backhdlp@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    Yeah, I think OOP is using it wrong

    paddirn,

    I mainly only use Linux with my SteamDeck now, but I’ve made use of it at various other times in the past, so I’m semi-familiar with it. Kind of the same boat though, I’ll see memes about it and I’m just like “Heh hehe heh…” ¯_(ツ)_/¯ “I don’t get it.”

    Arthur_Leywin,

    That sounds like a skill issue.

    Nightsoul,
    TechieDamien,
    kirby,
    Nahodyashka,
    cows_are_underrated,

    Now I’m blind. Thanks for that.

    Just_Not_Funny,

    You’re a monster

    Holzkohlen,

    I am slowly going insane with KDE Plasma freezing up every time there is even remotely something accessing my drive. Not sure if I should pin my hoped on Plasma 6 or if I should attempt to move my Arch install over to Cinnamon. Or heck just install Mint and call it a day.

    abbotsbury,
    @abbotsbury@lemmy.world avatar

    Can vouch for Cinnamon, very snappy and easy to configure, even has an integrated theme downloader like KDE

    rattking, (edited )
    @rattking@lemmy.ml avatar

    Have you checked the smart data for that drive? And dmesg for drive or bus resets? A failing drive can cause that freezing problem. If a drive can’t read a sector it will keep trying again and again (without TLER anyway. And how much it tries before giving up depends on the drive.) It’s been a while but I believe that will put a process in state D - uninterruptible sleep. Which can’t even be killed.

    0ddysseus,

    I have mint on my big rig, on a new Intel nuc laptop, on 2 VMS, on 2 proxmox VMS, on my home file server made of old parts, on another laptop from like 2005, and now on a wyse 5060 terminal.

    All of them run perfectly, connect to file shares, automatically find my printer, etc. Not one crash ever, and it all works like clockwork day in and day out. I’m halfway through baldurs gate 3 on the big rig now and can play it remotely via xrdp from the laptop.

    If you want a system that works and let’s you get on with life I’d reccomend it

    Worstdriver,

    Used Ubuntu Linux for a year back around '08-'09. Didn’t have a great experience and went back to Windows. Since then I’ve never had a reason to try it again. That said, I’ve nothing but respect for those that use a flavour of Linux or Mac OS. At the end of the day doing the things you need done is what matters and if a different OS than mine gets you there, that’s awesome.

    nihilist_hippie,
    @nihilist_hippie@lemmy.ca avatar

    I’ve tried to switch to Linux multiple times since 2008. Usually Ubuntu. I’ve even tried Linux Mint. I can never commit to the switch, I always get buggy behavior, crashes, hardware incompatibility, lack of apps (FL Studio, Adobe, WeChat for PC, etc). There are also dozens of tiny issues, like the sensitivity of the mouse/scroll wheel that feels different from Windows, even after adjusting the relevant settings. Also, for volume adjusting, the volume slider doesn’t make a sound when you change the volume level, unlike on Windows. How is it that not a single Linux distro includes this functionality? I am totally comfortable working in a Terminal if I have to, but every time I follow a terminal walkthrough I get errors; I search the error messages online and I get reading threads talking about bugs that are a decade old, there is never a solution. I am so jealous of people who can immerse themselves in Linux, I just can’t do it. I need my stuff to work out of the box, and for 15 years and many attempts to switch, it has never been the case. I can’t tell if I’m not smart enough, or I just rely too heavily on proprietary software, or I don’t want to dedicate the time to manually fixing problems with terminal commands and scripts.

    Fungah,

    My first 4 months or so with Linux sucked. I literally broke a keyboard once out of frustration. I often find myself wanting to scream “can you just fucking work for once?” More often than I’d care to admit.

    I’ve been at it for about a year and a half and I’ve learned more about computing in that time than in the 30-odd years before. I’m starting to get the hang of bash, I’ve figured out the cause of, and fixed, problems without reading anything online (Google is fucking broken and it’s not getting better so it’s often not an option anymore anyway).

    It can be hard. And frustrating. But it’s freeing to realize just how fucking stupid Microsoft made me. And the privacy issues always bothered me (in the process of degoogling ATM) but they bother me more now than they ever did. It’s fucking gross. And it’s appalling that companies collect what they do.

    Point being your criticisms are all valid but if windows is a Honda Civic then Linux is a rusted out Porsche in the backyard. It’s going to take some effort to get it where you want it but when you do baby it’ll purr.

    bulwark,

    I think you brought up a good point in that Microsoft conditions people to expect a certain behavior from their PC. Some of that is ease of use at there expense of privacy, forced unavoidable updates, and individual software solutions that handles their respective updates.

    K0W4LSK1,
    @K0W4LSK1@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Really like this. This is my exact experience just a few months ahead. Try duck duck go i found it much better for finding answers also fuck google

    bufalo1973,
    @bufalo1973@lemmy.ml avatar

    Try Qwant

    Fungah,

    Duck duck go is just bing and Google.

    I pay $10/month for kagi. It’s really not where I want it to be but it’s the best game in town so far.

    nayminlwin,

    This is the reason I have a lot of respect for people who are not in IT or Tech field, career wise, but still managed to deep dive into linux.

    Even will all the ease of access that the current linux ecosystem offer, linux still is a tinkerer’s OS. You have to deep dive into the basics for some problem. That’s hard, even for someone with tech background.

    avapa,

    The KDE desktop environment definitely plays a sound when you change the volume. I use my Logitech G Pro X wireless headset on Linux and Windows and just change the volume using the dial on the unit and it behaves the same way in both OS.

    Though, to be fair, I do share some of the frustrations you mention. I’m mostly on Apple products apart from my two desktop PCs (one is Linux/Windows dual-boot, one is Linux only) which I own solely for gaming purposes and some hobbyist programming. I usually try to get non-Linux native applications running but if it proves to be too much of a hassle I simply boot into Windows or use my MacBook. I like to treat Linux as somewhat of a hobby and I totally understand that most people would rather have something that “just works”, especially when it comes to proprietary creative applications like the Adobe suite or DAWs. That being said, it’s extremely exciting to see the massive strides Linux on the desktop has made in the last couple of years. It has come a looooong way, honestly; especially for gaming. And I always support open-source projects/foundations - I’m donating to KDE/Arch/Wikipedia on a monthly basis - because I believe in the core values and advantages of FOSS and other community-driven foundations even though I’m far from a Richard Stallman.

    dansity,

    I’m in and out with linux for the last few years. It really boils down what do you want to do on your PC. If you are into online gaming or you need some specialized software for your work you are pretty much better stay on windows. However for general use its awsome. I have replaced many of my software even on windows to foss tools. There is a small learning curve and you will certainly need the terminal in the beginning but overall not terrible. For me it was a pleasant experience seeing mostly everything works without effort. The two most popular desktops (KDE and Gnome) are fairly polished and you question a lot of things in windows after using them. In general using linux a bit gives you a new perspective on how to use a PC.

    Fungah,

    I’ve tried Manjaro kde and mint kde and it’s been a dumpster fire both times. Then again gnome was also a dumpster fire on Manjaro. It honk I’m seeing the common thread there.

    I want to love kde… why won’t it let me?Fuck gnome though.

    cosmicboi,

    Depends which games. I play Metal Gear Solid V, and it works almost flawlessly, aside from minor audio issues when objects in the game world move very fast (using a balloon to forcibly yank a downed enemy out of the combat zone creates a quieter than expected noise)

    Other than that, it works very well :)

    FilthyShrooms,
    @FilthyShrooms@lemmy.world avatar

    And the other 25% is star trek memes

    Vespair,

    Well yeah but nobody complains about the frosting on a cake

    MashedTech,

    I wonder why?

    phorq,

    The Q continuum is messing with us?

    shadearg,
    @shadearg@lemmy.world avatar

    Not if you punch first.

    MashedTech,

    Haha, I use a Mac :cry:

    aport,

    🤮

    MashedTech,

    Come here

    AceFuzzLord, (edited )

    Totally depends on the instance. There are definitely furry communities here in Lemmy and they definitely feel lonely. But I have heard of some furry mastodon instances that actually are lively and active. No idea if they actually are since I don’t have a clue why I can’t access my mastodon account, let alone what instance I signed up on.

    But active non-Linux, non-Star Trek meme groups definitely are a thing, despite how small they are.

    JTskulk,

    Imagine complaining about Linux users instead of switching to Linux.

    SitD,

    how will Microsoft know that I’m doing well though, or if i have my photos properly backed up in the cloud 😭 they’re just concerned for my safety

    Omniraptor, (edited )

    ok this comment finally got me to download ubuntu i hope you’re happy

    sorrybookbroke,

    One of us, one of us, one of us, one of us

    spez,

    two of us, two of us, two of us

    Zetta,

    Boo. Fedora! fedora! fedora!

    JTskulk,

    HELL YEAH BROTHER

    Amends1782,

    Fantastic. Now just delete the Ubuntu iso and download mint cinnamon, so so much better and “just works”

    antik, (edited )
    @antik@lemmy.world avatar

    @Jezebelley You want to tell them? 😂

    ShitOnABrick, (edited )
    @ShitOnABrick@lemmy.world avatar

    Is this satire?

    c0mbatbag3l,
    @c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

    Unfortunately not, that’s why lemmy never took off. All the people that came here from reddit slowly left once they realized you have to be a FOSS/Socialist/anti-car/vegan. Only the ones that matched at least one of those really stuck around.

    Zetta,

    ¯_(ツ)_/¯ At least there is a lot less brain dead shit all over the front page without a bunch of normal people up in this bitch

    c0mbatbag3l,
    @c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

    I mean kinda? There’s still some brain dead shit and I honestly think the reading comprehension of the average commenter is lower than reddit.

    milicent_bystandr,

    I like the fact that it’s different brain-dead from Reddit. Then I feel there is balance: dead brains on both sides.

    Of course sometimes you spot the living among the dead, but if I want genuine sense I’m a big fan of [i]rl.

    ShitOnABrick, (edited )
    @ShitOnABrick@lemmy.world avatar

    I mean I would prefer the “brain dead shit” in my opinionmost of the shit I see here is just bitching and moaning or copious amounts of nfsw. No cute puppy pictures. No wholesome memes. No actually funny shitposts. Mostly bitching and moaning,“demanding a violent revolution” lots of tankies here nfsw and heavily opionated extremely unfunny in my opinion comedy is subjective i dont find these funny but you may domemes. All this hostility is almost certainly affecting lemmys growth heck only reason I’m here is because of lemmy shitposts and the many other nicher communities I like

    Zetta,

    Yes lemmy is worse in some ways, and that’s why I spend less time using it than I used to compared to reddit. Honestly I’m happy about that though.

    ShitOnABrick,
    @ShitOnABrick@lemmy.world avatar

    Well whatever works for you amego

    Vespair,

    Also older. The average Lemmy user is much older than the average reddit user. Which I would love if it stuck just to averages, but I don’t think we’ve got a very wide range here; we need some new blood/youthful energy if we want this to thrive and grow. But as it is now, I think Lemmy is a kind of a haven for FOSS old heads for a bit but doesn’t have a lot of fuel in the tank for the future, unless we see a bit of a cultural shift here.

    ShitOnABrick, (edited )
    @ShitOnABrick@lemmy.world avatar

    Lemmy almost certainly needs a “cultural shift” it’s way to toxic. It’s probably more toxic than heroshima. one thing I’ve noticed myself is there’s way way to many tankies. And some members of the linux community aren’t so welcoming to people whom use other operating systems

    Vespair, (edited )

    Are there tankies? Yes, absolutely. That being said, is the term “tankie” being thrown around way too cavalierly and dismissively on Lemmy? Ab-so-fucking-lutely.

    I thought reddit was into assigning labels to people dismissively, but holy shit it’s on another level here on Lemmy.

    Just like how not everyone who disagreed with you on Reddit was a Nazi, not everyone who says something you dislike on Lemmy is a tankie

    edit: small typo

    ShitOnABrick, (edited )
    @ShitOnABrick@lemmy.world avatar

    Tankie is a pejorative label generally applied to communists who express support for one-party communist regimes

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie?wprov=sfla1

    I see way to much stuff which fits in the “tankie” category.in my honest and earnest opinion I think these people are entitled to an opinion I also believe that these people are able to express that opinion but so are the hundreds of other communities that these people may not like I see some of these tankies not exclusively tankiesvictimising some of the Christian communities here on lemmy this is an example from a little research and speaking to some these people from these communities I’m sure there’s many more examples

    Edit : this was on top page on ml not surprising considering its an ml domain but still

    lemmy.ml/…/3bd8dae8-ba7b-45b1-8eff-f9bba4d69f51.j…

    lemmy.world/…/1de75854-4f98-4789-927d-3c8ef639dd4…

    Amends1782,

    I agree there absolutely is toxcity here, particularly if you go against the majority and popular views. Lemmy users often claim and post about being so much better than reddit users when they’re the fucking same

    ShitOnABrick, (edited )
    @ShitOnABrick@lemmy.world avatar

    Yup exactly I agree with this. I think people are entitled to an opinion and that includes tankies. But the way alot of “lemmings” go about discussing there views and opinions is worse than reddit in my opinion for an instance there’s alot of folk assholes in my opinion raiding Christian communities downvoiting them and commenting on them I’m not Christian myself but I personally see this as despicable behavior. Especially considering there people consider themselves to be the “tolerant” one’s

    Vespair,

    Especially considering there people consider themselves to be the “tolerant” one’s

    Where does this come from? Because the only people I’ve ever heard use the term “tolerant left” were people on the right.

    This is all just decorum tone-policing, a way conservatives and those in the status quo quiet dissent by holding oppositional voices to a higher standard than they hold themselves. As a leftist, I believe in equity, I believe in free expression, and I believe in not judging others by their intrinsic and immutable qualities such as skin tone, familial background, and appearance. But I also absolutely believe in judging people on the defining characteristics they choose for themselves: their words, their actions, and their beliefs. I’m left as fuck, but I’m not going to tolerate hate, or exploitation, or evilness; don’t call me fucking tolerant.

    To that note, you’ll notice religion (in terms of belief, not background; there are some cases where this muddy) falls squarely in the “what I believe” section, meaning that is the kind of thing we should judge a person’s character based on. And tbh, since Christianity, especially Western popular evangelical Christianity isn’t exactly a neutral or non-impactful influence on the world, why should it be spared legitimate criticism? If we leftists believe in building a better world by repairing or tearing down and replacing broken systems for the sake of the betterment of mankind, why is that particular system (which again, is not neutral on non-impactful in influence) supposedly off-limits? Why are you okay with us raging against all of the other machines oppression but that one? Why are you okay with the righteous work of changing minds and educating others against governmental structures but not religious ones?

    Somewhere down the line conservatives tricked leftists into thinking that “don’t judge people for their skin and background” should stretch to “don’t judge people for the literally insane shit that they believe despite the fact that the insane belief will literally inform all of their choices, both legislatively and personally,” and it is absolutely fucked that so many leftists have fallen for it.

    Don’t judge people for what they are; do judge people for what they do, what they say, and what they think.

    JTskulk,

    Thanks for deciding for me.

    ShitOnABrick,
    @ShitOnABrick@lemmy.world avatar

    Hey mate just wondering still is this satire

    JTskulk,

    It is, we’re in the Linuxmemes community dude. But also, what if it wasn’t? I didn’t know this was such a controversial statement lol

    Jezebelley,

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  • Amends1782,

    Mint- great decision. Especially for a laptop. You’ll enjoy it.

    gnuplusmatt,

    except if the hardware is newish, or they want to get off xorg

    frippa,
    @frippa@lemmy.ml avatar
    1. A newcomer probably doesn’t even know what X11 and Wayland are, let alone the differences between the two.
    2. Linux Mint has planned experimental wayland support for Christmas 2023.
    JTskulk,

    Based! Now you’ll have to change your username too, in Linux our programs don’t have the .exe extension :)

    callyral,
    @callyral@pawb.social avatar

    i guess you could just get an ELF binary and rename it to something.exe but idk why you’d do that

    Draconic_NEO,
    @Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world avatar

    Wouldn’t be a good idea since it’ll conflict if you install wine.

    ShitOnABrick, (edited )
    @ShitOnABrick@lemmy.world avatar

    Nice enjoy amego. Mint was my second choice. Great choice of distro BTW very easy to use make sure to install flatpaks and neofetch sadly I went back to windows my pc hardware has poor driver support on Linux maybe eventually once I’ve upgraded my gpu then I’ll return to my sacred Linux mint

    Nobsi, (edited )
    @Nobsi@feddit.de avatar

    I install Ubuntu LTS
    I try some things
    Something fails
    I look at forums
    I find only cunty answers to ever problem
    I delete the vm and install server 2022 core

    plague_sapiens,
    @plague_sapiens@lemmy.world avatar

    Happens when using Ubuntu :P

    Nobsi,
    @Nobsi@feddit.de avatar

    Didn’t happen to me when learning core… And i asked DUMB questions

    plague_sapiens,
    @plague_sapiens@lemmy.world avatar

    That was a joke. Every community can be salty ime.

    droans,

    I had a problem with some software I was using a few weeks back. I googled the error and the one result was a closed GitHub issue matching it exactly.

    The sole reply just said that the poster should stop being lazy because the problem has been discussed in other issue reports.

    Except that was the very first issue created for that repository.

    Nobsi,
    @Nobsi@feddit.de avatar

    I hate forum culture. Yet i partake in it.

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