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cows_are_underrated, in Germans

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TorJansson, in Pay up

Eh whot only a $1 bill showing, cough up some real cash or it’s back on the wire, bub

reflex, in Germans
@reflex@kbin.social avatar

Verboten!

Hyperreality, in Cheese
bleistift2, in Ms. Rib would like to speak to a manager

Even non-Christian-nutjobs get this wrong, so let me spell it out: Humans didn’t evolve from apes. Humans evolved with apes from a common ancestor.

OutlierBlue, (edited )

Humans are apes. We evolved from them and we are still them.

Edit: I think you mean to say chimps, not apes. We came from a common ancestor with chimpanzees. We were never chimps.

rockerface,

It’s the same deal as with birds and dinosaurs. Birds didn’t evolve from dinosaurs, they are dinosaurs.

vaultdweller013,

Y’all are a bunch of hyper-evolved fish, so shut the fuck up and let the superior crabs take over.

Fosheze,

In particular humans are the apes with the largest penis size to body size ratio.

bleistift2,

The Hominidae, whose members are known as the great apes are a taxonomic family of primates that includes […] orangutan[s]; Gorilla[s …]; […] the chimpanzee and the bonobo; and Homo, of which only modern humans (Homo sapiens) remain.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hominidae

Apes [are] collectively [called] Hominoidea […] There are two extant branches of the superfamily Hominoidea: the gibbons […]; and the [great apes …]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ape

You’re right in that humans are apes taxonomically. What I was trying to contradict was the misconception according to which the type of apes we see today got somehow β€œfrozen” evolutionary some time ago, but that some of their descendents evolved to become human.

Chunk,

These pedantic Lemmy nerd fights remind me of how I learned so much on early reddit reading similar arguments.

Gormadt,
@Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Not to mention that the rib thing was a deliberate rewording in later translations, if memory serves it was originally β€œmade from half of Adam” or whatever his original name was.

The β€œfrom his rib” thing was put there as a way of basically saying β€œfrom creation women were lesser.” So basically politics of the time affecting the message.

I’ll have to see if I can find a source later.

Edit: Source

Son_of_dad,

Most of the Bible was edited for political reasons. I’m sure Jesus totally told everyone to follow the law of the land and to give Caesar his taxes without a fuss

EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted,
@EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Ave, true to Caesar!

Chunk,

There is a History of the Byzantines podcast and it talks about the political maneuvering in the empire and church. They had political parties and each party had separate religious beliefs and that was important for how church doctrine evolved.

It’s so incredibly political it’s unbelievable. It’s like β€œI want to be emperor so I will agree to whatever those guys say so I can gain their political support”. And now hundreds of millions of people think that’s the word of God when really it’s the back alley dealings of Justinian.

Sauvandu59, in Simple Truth

Very true, the creation of israel has been catastrophic for Palestinians. The British and Theodore Herzl should be blamed for this mess.

barttier, in Germans
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In aisle three da steht ein Râââselein, und das heißt Cooorona! 🎡

velox_vulnus,

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  • SuckMyWang,

    You said stinky dick

    PaupersSerenade, in Cheese
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    OK, Wallace

    empireOfLove, in Pay up

    $200 fine for TRYING to touch the wires. If they catch you.

    IF you do make it all the way to the wires, it’s a self-solving problem.

    netchami,

    The problem is not solved if you touch the wires. They have to get their money somehow.

    SuckMyWang,

    Make sure your wallet is empty

    XTornado,

    For the cleanup at least… But that’s what the family and friends are for no?

    Shard,

    Theymake a claim against your estate.

    skulblaka,
    @skulblaka@kbin.social avatar

    They very well might just bill your next of kin about it. Or it will be taken out of estate value first.

    If you're broke, die, and have no immediate family? You get out scot free.

    moshtradamus666,

    You are right but we are being silly though

    MelastSB, in Sick man of Europe

    THEN THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVED!

    hardware26,

    Is this an AOE2 reference or is it historically correct? I knew I should not have learnt history from games.

    hh93,

    It’s a Sabaton song

    hardware26,

    I was way off:)

    tilcica,

    i recommend listening to it. its great :D

    hardware26,

    It was, thanks

    DmMacniel,

    COMING DOWN THE MOUNTAIN SIDE

    I miss the U/waitingtobetriggered bot on Reddit :/

    Wage_slave, in Does mountain dew taste better than black tea? Yes. Does it also cost 30 times as much to get the caffeine fix? Yes.
    @Wage_slave@lemmy.ml avatar
    tea,

    Whenever I really have to pee I say β€œwhy did I drink all that crab juice!” out loud and no one knows what the hell I’m talking about.

    D_C, in Cheese

    β€œWhen I work…” Bozo Boris is lying yet again.

    Th4tGuyII,
    @Th4tGuyII@kbin.social avatar

    Exactly. Implies he actually does any work at all

    spacesweedkid27, in Hmmmm

    I don’t fucking get on how Israel has never really tried forming a state in which both palestinians and jews can live in peace together.

    This is not what Zyonism has done: Now there is no possibility for peace, there are only religious fanatics.

    Hamas or today’s Israel, both want to have it all.

    winterayars,

    The β€œone state solution” is the only real way forward but it’s not surprising it’s not very popular. The Jews would be a minority in this hypothetical country and there are two problems with that:

    One, the right wing types types really will only accept a Jewish-dominant theocratic state as an outcome. Everything comes second to that. Even the others feel like they β€œneed” a safe state that’s free from generations of oppression against Jews. There are more Palestinians than Jews right now, so giving those Palestinians any kind of political representation is a non starter.

    Two, how do you think the Palestinians feel about Jews right now? How do you think they would behave if given political power right now? I’m not saying they’d all turn around and look for equal but opposite revenge but I doubt they’re happy about all this. Further, do you think the Israelis are going to want to put themselves in that position?

    So because of that. while i think the one state solution is the only realistic non-genocidal way forward i’m not optimistic about it coming to pass.

    theneverfox,
    @theneverfox@pawb.social avatar

    The same reason why in the US we have people attacking trans people (even when they’ve literally never seen one in person) and why our monopoly laws have gone from β€œchop them up for the common good” to β€œyou better stop it or we might levy a symbolic fine”

    The political window has been shifted so far right that the left’s position is β€œwe need to be nicer to the people in Gaza, but really carefully since they’ll subjugate us if they have the chance”

    It’s not an accident, it’s a small group of people with a lot of money who are investing it in hijacking discourse for their own power.

    If you get on tv and start pitching socialism, you’re instantly dismissed as a radical. You can’t even have the conversation - people don’t understand what that means and will instinctively recite nonsensical talking points, because they’ve been fed those for so long it would take an intensive college course to unlearn enough that they can have the actual conversation of β€œwould this work better”. The vast majority has internalized the idea that β€œraw dog capitalism is the only feasible system”

    It’s the same with Israel. They’ve been fed propoganda so long that you can’t have the conversation - they’ve internalized the idea that Gaza is a bunch of animals who want to kill them, and the furthest left thing you can pitch to them is β€œwell, maybe we should improve their situation economically, but we have to be careful not to let our foot on their neck slip off too fast”

    Fun fact - there’s a lot of overlap with the groups doing this in the US and the ones doing it in Israel. By that I mean literally the same groups are funding both propaganda efforts, like the heritage foundation

    Ducks,
    @Ducks@lemmy.world avatar

    Have people really forgotten the early 2000s when Hamas would blow themselves up inside cafes and malls in Israel? There’s a reason the border between Israel and Gaza is the way it is and that Gaza has become a β€œprison” of sorts. When they allowed access to Palestinians from Gaza into Israel, they were terrorized constantly.

    2001-2009.state.gov/p/nea/ci/israel/79006.htm

    deegeese,

    The people under apartheid aren’t accepting their place? Shocker.

    Israel will never know peace while they continue to oppress Palestinians.

    nonailsleft,

    Israel won’t know peace if they stop either. How did the US and Canada solve β€˜the problem’ with the natives?

    winterayars,

    If they’re damned if they do and damned if they don’t then why not do the right thing?

    nonailsleft,

    Because they would get killed by the radical islamists

    kemsat,

    They have. The issue is that their country was drawn up, by Europeans, without the consent of the people that were already living there. So the Palestinians, rightfully, don’t want any Israel to be there at all, on account of it being on land stolen from them.

    I know a lot of the world is European living in stolen lands, but, surprisingly, none of the rest of the people give a single shot what happened in the last 500 years, they simply just want the intruders gone.

    gh0stcassette,
    @gh0stcassette@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    Imo the whole β€œlet’s give Jewish people a state after the holocaust” thing was a good idea, but they should have put it Germany. Germany were the ones who actually Did the holocaust, therefore there’s some argument to be made that they were entitled to German land, you could consider it a form of reparations. There was no argument for Jewish people being entitled to Palestine because their ancient ancestors lived there like 1800 years ago or whatever

    naevaTheRat, (edited )

    the settlement started before British support which came later. It’s super complicated.

    edit: reasonable overview on Wikipedia of events leading up to Israel actually en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism

    Bastardised simple summary is

    • Europeans treat Jewish people like shit for thousands of years
    • creates support for Jewish sovern state
    • languishes a while but antisemitism gets worse
    • in typical European fashion it is decided to just start settling where other people already live and force the existence of a country
    • ww1, Britain and France decide they know how to do a middle east. Results show typical commitment to stability and fairness.
    • settlement is supported by various and sundry European powers inc German Reich in lead up to and during ww2 because everyone hates Jewish people and wants to foist them off to some other, preferable brown skinned, person’s country.
    • after ww2 everyone eventually gets mad at the results of this sensitive and thoughtful plan, including European supporters, neighbouring countries, Palestinans, and many Jewish people. Fear and hatred fuel dominance of increasingly aggressive right wing political parties.
    • everyone except the USA that is. Their government has a blast supply weapons after Britain and France wash their hands and claim guiltlessness.
    • land grabs and oppression intensifies
    Johanno,

    Afaik palestinians can live and work in Israel in peace. There are still several issues in Israel if you are palestinian but you are a free person who can live there in peace.

    I mean as long the Hamas isn’t attacking them you can even live in Gaza and work in Israel.

    But in Gaza I don’t think a jew will survive for long.

    uniqueid198x,

    the Isreali government has a long and increasing history of systematic oppression of palestinian people, both inside and outside of the occupied palestinian territories. amnesty.org/…/report-israel-and-occupied-palestin…

    Johanno,

    Ok Israel is on a downwards spiral to hell in regards to human rights. More than I thought.

    It is sad that it is still much better than Gaza.

    In my opinion this conflict will never end. Both sides won’t ever to come to agreement.

    winterayars,

    This is definitely not true. If you are Palestinian you don’t have freedom of movement inside Palestine let alone freedom to enter Israel. They’re not all permanently barred (gotta let them in so they can work for Israel) but they’re not free.

    You’re also not able to live in peace in Palestine. Settlers regularly come in and drive people out. Food, water. medical supplies, and more are tightly controlled by Israel.

    There are non Jews who are Israel citizens, including some Palestinian people, but that’s a different story and those are not the people we’re talking about.

    SuperCuber,
    Syndic,

    I don’t fucking get on how Israel has never really tried forming a state in which both palestinians and jews can live in peace together.

    The Zionist terrorist of the British Mandate period were founding members of the state of Israel. For example Menachem Begin who later became a founding member of the Likud party which Netanyahu belongs to. These asshats from the start wanted to get rid of all Palestinians/Arabs and get the whole country for Jewish people. That’s why the Zyonist terrorist fist targeted communities where Jews and Palestinians/Arabs were living together in peace. Netanyahu is just continuing this goal and he would rather die than to allow for a stable two state solution to become reality.

    Unaware7013,

    Because they don't want it, simple as that. Why do you think they've been illegally stealing Palestinian land and bulldozing their homes for illegal settlements for decades?

    gedaliyah,
    @gedaliyah@lemmy.world avatar

    I don’t fucking get on how Israel has never really tried forming a state in which both palestinians and jews can live in peace together.

    That is literally what Israel is. 20% of citizens are Palestinian. They have the exact same rights as any other citizen, and representation in the Israeli Parliament.

    As far as Gaza is concerned, Israel withdrew all settlers and military almost 20 years ago. Israel doesn’t want any part of Gaza, but the Hamas party who rules Gaza with an iron fist wants to invade and drive out Israel.

    S_204,

    20% are Arab, not necessarily Palestinians… but ya, saying they’re an apartheid state is kinda scuttled by, well, the facts.

    gh0stcassette,
    @gh0stcassette@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    There are far more ethnic Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank living in third world conditions, who are denied Israeli citizenship than there are Palestinian Israeli citizens, and even the ones with citizenship are subjected to a level of racism and state violence comparable to Black Americans in the Jim Crow south.

    winterayars,

    There are about 7 million Jews in Israel and about 2 million Arabs. (With like less than a million β€œothers”? Something like that.) Palestine’s population has been declining (for some… mysterious reason…) but there are still about 5 million Palestinians.

    It’s simply a question of the numbers: you can have a theocratic Jewish state of Israel or you can have a representative democracy that gives equal Rights to the Palestinians, but not both. Likud is a party of theocrats and they’ve all decided long ago which is more important to them.

    BluJay320,
    @BluJay320@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    Let me just take the majority of your house, leaving you with only your bathroom, and then tell me how wanting me out is trying to invade my territory

    VikingHippie, (edited )

    Palestinian. They have the exact same rights as any other citizen

    That’s so ridiculously false that you’re either wholly ignorant about the reality of the notoriously discriminate ethnostate that is Israel or deliberately lying to further a false narrative.

    FinalRemix,

    Can I just say how nice it is that we can have multiple links in a comment and it doesn’t get automodded and silently hidden like on reddit?

    VikingHippie,

    You can, provided that I’m in turn allowed to wholeheartedly agree 😁

    MonkderZweite, in Reddit be like

    There’s a userscript, β€˜old reddit redirect’.

    Enigma, in Does mountain dew taste better than black tea? Yes. Does it also cost 30 times as much to get the caffeine fix? Yes.

    I was so obsessed with Dutch Bros Paris tea that I went and ordered a bag so I’d stop spending $5/day going there. It’s still the best tea that I’ve ever drank, IMO. Add some agave and it’s my own little Dutch bros at home.

    Harney & Sons is the brand they use.

    ericbomb,

    I should try and convince my GF to do that, she is addicted to dutch bros!

    Enigma,

    Their tea is cheap as well. I got 3 bags/150 satchets for like $50.

    Mr_Blott,

    Are you telling us you were spending $5 every day on a cup of tea, and then you bought 150 teabags for $50?

    fushuan,

    It’s not that expensive, here a package of Twinnings Earl Grey costs like 4-5€, and it comes with 25ish teabags. If they really like it, 50 for 150 is 15 times cheaper than what they were paying before so idk.

    Enigma,

    Not everyday, but most days. I had always intended to buy the tea myself, but kept forgetting to look at the tag, finally my husband took a picture of it. In my defense I was pregnant att and pregnancy brain is a real thing.

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