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Funkytom467, in Take it easy
@Funkytom467@lemmy.world avatar

Money is not really fake, it’s a contract amongst us to trade and remember what we owe each other. Speculation and stock market is fake.

And what do you mean society isn’t natural? It’s exactly that.

The only way it could be is if you oppose natural with man made/related, but then the birth of a child is unnatural. It’s a stupid definition.

Natural is related to nature, and as far as i’m concerned human beings are part of it, everything we create is natural and to think otherwise is to think we’re above our own biology and determinism.

And yeah the sun is not gonna explode anytime soon.

So take it easy but when it’s called for and for the right reasons.

Jiggle_Physics,

Not to come off as agreeing with the post, but I believe, from seeing other stuff, that “society isn’t natural” is short-hand for saying that humans evolved to exist in small groups of dozens of people who have to deal with, maybe, several dozen other similar groups of people. Thus it is not in our evolved nature to exist in the massive society of today.

Funkytom467,
@Funkytom467@lemmy.world avatar

Good point. Natural aint exactly biological but it’s closer and raise an important problem.

We did evolve into bigger society. That’s natural too, resources and services are easier to get with the more people.

On many levels our biology didn’t follow how quickly we invented new way to survive.

The point isn’t to discard society as unnatural of course, but you’re right to acknowledge the problem of our biology. We do need to reconcile the two.

The internet is a prime example of that, intercommunication brought a lot of fracturing of ideologies into smaller groups for example, and a lot of conflict.

I believe in that regard federated Lemmy might be a step on the right direction for social medias.

ExLisper, (edited ) in Both beliefs are fine, but please realize the hypocrisy

The “belief” we’re in a simulation is more like a interesting idea than something people organize their lives around. Is it possible? Yes. Am I going to praise the great programmer every Sunday? No.

The belief in God in most cases is not just belief in some general higher power but a very specific deity with weird morality, silly mythology and bunch of scam artists behind it.

  • I think there’s a higher power…
  • Ok…
  • that got mad at us for eating fruits but then impregnated a lady with itself and pissed us off so that we murdered him and he could say he’s not mad anymore.
  • … WTF?
PilferJynx,

God is a programmer. That explains a lot actually. I guess he’s still working out the bugs (features)

RIP_Cheems,
@RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world avatar

Maybe the rapture is actual just the update to reality.

5wim,

I more or less agree, but you keep using “believe” when you ought to use “belief.” Just FYI.

ExLisper,

Ups, thanks. Totally missed that.

mindbleach,

“Oops.”

ExLisper,

Even more material for the “words you have been using wrong” thread.

mindbleach,

English is an endless deluge of that experience, because our orthography is bullshit. People have tried to fix it. Their clever rules were partly adopted and became even more exceptions and special cases.

lolcatnip,

Yep.

I just learned of the Shavian Alphabet yesterday. It’s designed specifically for English and fits it well, except the sounds in it are so specific that when you write in it, you have to write in a specific regional accent. Fortunately it can’t become a new set of special cases because it’s an entirely new script not related to Latin.

mindbleach,

At that point, surely we’d use the International Phonetic Alphabet instead.

lolcatnip, (edited )

The letter shapes are a lot nicer and they can all be written easily with a single stroke. IPA is really ugly IMHO.

rwhitisissle,

This argument conflates belief with religious practice. The core similarity of both beliefs is that the universe is intelligently designed. And you can believe in the idea of a God without participating in any kind of formal religious practice. That “most” religious belief is wrapped up in a particular religious tradition is ancillary.

royalbarnacle,

Religion’s weakest argument is the claim that the world was intelligently designed. When it so clearly isn’t.

Simulation theory doesn’t claim someone designed all this. They built a simulator where all this evolution and history happened, like emergent gameplay on steroids. It’s not the same kind of “design” we’re talking about.

rwhitisissle, (edited )

Intelligent design is a broad, vague, and intensely mutable concept. It isn’t helped by the fact that there’s multiple kinds, with the pseudoscientific kind touted by the religious right in America and the more generic, very fucking old “teleological argument” which is also intelligent design at its core. To give a specific example of intelligent design philosophy that isn’t directly tied to a belief in a deity as an active participant, you can look at the deists, who believed that the universe’s fundamental laws were engineered by a kind of “clock maker” deity who left the universe running under its own principles but doesn’t have a direct, guiding hand in individual events. This is still a form of “intelligent design” and closely corresponds to simulation theory. At this point, you are redefining terms to suite your argument. Also, you can’t really say the world is or is not intelligently designed, as you have no evidence for either. The only truly “logical” position to hold for any of this is straight agnosticism.

RIPandTERROR, (edited )
@RIPandTERROR@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Could an all powerful, loving God be real? Sure. Why not?

Could a powerful, all loving God be real? Yeah, seems realistic. In many ways, I am a God to an ant.

Could an all powerful all loving God be real?

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha no.

God is either inept, indifferent, or a straight up ass. None of those items are something I care to worship, even at the threat of the eternal damnation.

Lifebandit666,

By their own book, the bad guy thought the stupid naked people should have a bit of an education and the good guy punished them for trying to improve their knowledge base. Serpents rule!

I was taught in school that the real battle in the universe is between chaos and order. They gave it a fancy name, Entropy, but that was the gist.

So Chaos is God and Order is Satan. Live all hunter gathering under God or just go to the Supermarket under Satan, and spend the rest of your time doing other things, like making art or scientific theories.

Even now the Church is against progress. Don’t let them Gays get married for fucks sake, the world will explode.

Hail Satan.

punkwalrus, in My wife "sucks"
@punkwalrus@lemmy.world avatar

Ah yes! My wife uses straws, too.

Aganim,

That sounds quite uncomfortable.

Wilzax, in Trig

The only function is sine, the rest are just remixes and ratios

EmergMemeHologram,

It’s true.

Cos(x) is just the derivative of sin(x)

Funkytom467,
@Funkytom467@lemmy.world avatar

Or cos if your weird

solidsnake2085,
@solidsnake2085@lemmy.world avatar

Or some say Kosm.

TIMMAY,

man I was talking about bloodborne today at work and I miss that game, might be time for a replay. Sucks that its 30fps tho

Wilzax, (edited )

Sin(x+π/2)

mexicancartel,

cos(x-π/2)

DahGangalang,

Yeah and I’ll bet you use Tau instead of Pi, don’t you, you human scum.

doyadig, in european stereotypes

Americans are so dumb they think “Europeans” are a thing. It’s a continent. 50 countries with 50 different cultures.

RagingRobot,

Is the European Union not a thing anymore? Does being a part of that not make you European? What does European mean if not for people who live in Europe?

To be fair America has 50 different states and a lot of them have totally different cultures. Texas compared to new york for example. Would that not make your statement equally as dumb?

Riven,
@Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Also lots of US states are bigger than European countries lul.

lud,

The European Union is a union and not a country, the EU is pretty irrelevant here since there are lots of Europeans that don’t live in a member country. There are lots of cultural differences and languages.

Of course everyone in Europe is European but generalising Europeans that really doesn’t have that much in common (except living in Europe) is most often pretty stupid. Europe is very diverse in culture, climate, economy, politics, etc.

RagingRobot,

So is america though lol we just mostly speak the same language over here

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

and europeans are so dumb they think “americans” are a thing. its a country, with states sometimes bigger than most of europes countries

lud,

Imagine thinking anything that’s pretty much 300 years old is anywhere close to the rest of the world.

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

what does this comment trying to portray?

eltimablo,

This comment reads like someone smugly shitting their pants because someone they don't like said they'd win the next time they gambled on a fart.

lud,

Wtf are you talking about?

eltimablo,

U poop pants

AnUnusualRelic,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

US people: 50 countries of white people! that’s not diversity!

vzq, in My wife "sucks"
voidMainVoid, (edited )

The answer is no. No, we are not.

SimplyATable,

Oh, bleh. Always steered clear of that place, the name and overall vibe is wack

voidMainVoid,

What do you have against blahaj?

SimplyATable,

I was talking about “Are the straights okay” specifically. Blahaj is chill

semperverus, (edited )
@semperverus@lemmy.world avatar

My thing with blahaj is that while its cool that trans people identify with it, the fact that theyre trying to make it universally only be a trans symbol is a bit problematic.

My family has a few and none of us are trans as far as we know. Theyre comfy and cuddly as fuck, and I feel like its something that should be for “everybody” and not just one particular community. Like a bring-us-all-together kind of thing.

To be clear, I’d have just as much of a problem with it if it were becoming a symbol for some other completely unrelated community too, so it’s not the specific community claiming it I have an issue with (trans people are people, and a lot of y’all are really awesome)

kpw,

You sound a bit like those Christians complaining about how the gays stole the rainbow from God.

vzq,

Always steered clear of that place

I’m glad you were able to find a solution that works for everyone.

Archlinuxforever, in America: Getting ready for another election. Rest of the world:
@Archlinuxforever@lemmy.3cm.us avatar

So it’s wrong if we have elections like a normal democracy? Ok understood.

EvolvedTurtle,

Nah there’s nothing wrong with elections them self

The issue is the US he’s really really hostile around election time due to how divided people are

Ultraviolet, (edited )

Maybe if one side wasn’t an openly theocratic fascist party that wants women to be property and anyone who isn’t a straight white Christian to be dead, it would be easier to get along. I’m going to be hostile towards Republicans for the same reason I’d be hostile to someone pointing a gun at me.

Omega_Haxors,

how divided people are

Dooogg whiisstlleeesss

zcd,

Its more a commentary on America’s frighteningly real chance of descending into a Russian sponsored fascist dictatorship. But sure if that scratches your persecution fetish I’m not gonna kink shame you

Omega_Haxors,

descending into a Russian sponsored fascist dictatorship.

As opposed to an American styled fascist dictatorship.

ILikeBoobies,

For the enemies of Russia that would be better

GeneralVincent,

like a normal democracy

Mfw when we’ve had five presidents who didn’t win the popular vote, and two of them were within the past 25 years.

I think we could do better as a democracy.

deeznutz,

We aren’t a democracy, we’re a democratic republic.

Kase,

What’s the difference?

maryjayjay,

Individual voters tell their state how to cast the state vote. States vote to elect the president. Our States are more analagous to countries that are members of the EU than, say, the states in Mexico or provinces in Canada. (Not that I’m particularly educated on the government systems of the EU, Mexico, or Canada. If I made a bad comparison please feel free to correct me)

Maggoty,

Two words for the same thing.

Honytawk,

You are indeed more of a oligarchy than a democracy.

So you aren’t a democratic republic either as much as North Korea isn’t a democratic people’s republic.

DrJenkem,
@DrJenkem@lemmy.blugatch.tube avatar

Least brain damaged Arch user

Omega_Haxors,

You know what they say about Arch users.

spudwart,
@spudwart@spudwart.com avatar

Arch users speak for themselves.

Honytawk, (edited )

Nobody talks about Arch users except Arch users themselves.

So no I don’t know what they say about them.

Archlinuxforever,
@Archlinuxforever@lemmy.3cm.us avatar

Fuck you

PureTryOut,
@PureTryOut@lemmy.kde.social avatar

Tbh a “normal” democracy doesn’t only have 2 parties to choose from, none of which represents the majority of citizens. Your democracy sucks honestly.

Archlinuxforever,
@Archlinuxforever@lemmy.3cm.us avatar

Fuck you

Taiatari,

The USA have a two party system with majority takes it all, you can barely call it a democracy tbh.

Archlinuxforever,
@Archlinuxforever@lemmy.3cm.us avatar

Fuck you

KrummsHairyBalls,

It’s wrong that if a president is doing a really good job, the majority like them, they still only get 8 years maximum before they are forced out.

How about voting people out when they start to do a bad job, not because the timer ran out? Change just for change sake is stupid.

Willy, in Proof of twerk

they real story is more interesting. it’s just a shame that the incentives were aligned a bit askew. people gonna people.

kameecoding,

Whats the more interesting part? It was a scam from the get go

nexguy,
@nexguy@lemmy.world avatar

… in that it wasn’t a scam from the beginning…

Scammers just saw an opportunity later.

kameecoding,

Yes it was, lol. By design it can only function as a ponzi scheme, the itention might have been something else behind it but that doesn’t mean it wasn’t a scam from the get go

frezik,

It’s known that the original guy mined a whole bunch of coins to start with and has never cashed them in. He doesn’t seem to care about money much and just wanted to work on something interesting. Bitcoin is really a garage project that’s gotten out of hand.

Now, everyone who picked it up after that on a Greater Fool theory, sure, absolutely.

nexguy,
@nexguy@lemmy.world avatar

Who are the scammers? There is no company behind bitcoin and the soure code is open for anyone to look at at any time and anyone can participate.

kameecoding, (edited )

The delusion is strong with this one, here is a video educate yourself if you want I no longer care to argue with cryptobros

youtu.be/YQ_xWvX1n9g?si=bZc0DZc4zE_TGdPg

asuka,
@asuka@sh.itjust.works avatar

By being designed a deflationary currency, Bitcoin price was “doomed” to repeatedly spike with every halving. The “scammers”, then, are the people who got in early and hoarded Bitcoin.

nexguy,
@nexguy@lemmy.world avatar

So then the people who buy paintings from deceased artists are also scammers? They thought the exact same thing…I want to but this intrinsically useless thing that I think will increase in value because only a finite number exist and I think more people will want it in the future.

A scam is a deception of some sort. BTC is open source. No one is tricked into buying it any more than artwork.

asuka,
@asuka@sh.itjust.works avatar

Paintings are beautiful. Products are useful. Bitcoin is… nothing. It’s speculation. Any time when it could have been used as a practical currency is long gone.

cuchilloc,

Just like govt issued currency

kameecoding,

Ey yo bag holders are out in full force

nexguy,
@nexguy@lemmy.world avatar

If only anyone could actually prove btc is a scam in any way I’d gladly agree… any evidence at all. No evidence against an open source project since its inception 14 years ago. Is the evidence that impossible to reveal?

kameecoding,

If only there was a 2 hour long video that goes throughout everything including nfts

youtu.be/YQ_xWvX1n9g?si=bZc0DZc4zE_TGdPg

nexguy, (edited )
@nexguy@lemmy.world avatar

I’ll watch it. I hope it’s not 2 hours of opinion but actual dive into btc source code that shows something that I guess everyone(including banks and investment firms) has missed.

edit: This matches exactly what I said that scammers have taken an opportunity but btc was not created as a scam as was stated…so IS this a waste of 2 hours where btc is not the target but just a bunch of other coins and nft?

nexguy,
@nexguy@lemmy.world avatar

Immediately in the first few minutes he describes in detail how btc was not designed as a scam. Thank you for proving my point

AVincentInSpace, (edited )

He also says that in order for anyone to make money by trading actual dollars for bits on a blockchain and then back again, or by mining those bits by paying an absurdly large power bill (to say nothing of single purpose hardware that becomes useless within a few years) and then selling them to the next guy, one must somehow convince some other poor soul that those bits on that blockchain are now somehow worth more dollars than they were when one bought them to begin with. No cryptocurrency can exist without bagholders. Categorically.

nexguy,
@nexguy@lemmy.world avatar

Agreed. It’s not inherently a scam nor a ponzi since this rely on lying about how much money you have to pay back everyone at once. Btc is similar to artwork. There is no intrinsic value to it unless everyone agrees it has. Work is done to complete both and both are unique. Both are finite. Only 21 million btc will ever exist and only x numbers of paintings by this dead person will ever exist. If enough people believe both are valuable then their values will rise.

KoalaUnknown, in And your father smelt of elderberries!

Is there someone else up there we could talk to?

jubilationtcornpone,

No! Now go away before I taunt you a second time!

hunter2, in Title

I reload when I miss dialogue. Some people…

AgentGrimstone,

Thank you to the Youtubers who have saved me time from doing that.

Cruxifux, in No take backs?

Yeah I never understood that part. I’d have deep throated that blue pill so fast.

AngryCommieKender, (edited )

Neo didn’t know all that. I’m pretty sure that was Cypher’s story. Cypher didn’t know what the red pill would do either, and just wants to take the blue pill to get back to “a more preferential life,” for him.

Kinda ironic that the conservative of the film wants the blue pill.

DadVolante,
@DadVolante@sh.itjust.works avatar

There is no indicator that Cypher is a conservative.

DragonTypeWyvern,

Name something more conservative than betraying humanity by choosing willful ignorance and compliance to your oppressors.

DadVolante, (edited )
@DadVolante@sh.itjust.works avatar

Sounds like every republican and Democrat.

There are no political statements in the matrix. It’s a movie about being trans.

When the movie was made, it was both people on the right and left who were shitty to the queer community. Trust me.

Things weren’t as polarized as they were today. I remember. I was 15 when I saw it in theaters.

But okay, I guess it’s a big movie bashing the right, instead of society as a whole.

AngryCommieKender, (edited )

Things were just as polarized. They cancelled The Dixie Chicks and French Fries within 2 years of the movie coming out. BTW I was 19 when the film came out, and was paying attention as I had been in university for 3 years at that point.

Either way, I was using the most basic definition of a conservative that there is. Someone that wants to maintain the status quo. Cypher fits that definition. Republicans and Democrats don’t exist in the real world of The Matrix, so I wasn’t using a political definition.

DadVolante, (edited )
@DadVolante@sh.itjust.works avatar

No, he doesn’t. He doesn’t care about the damn status quo.

He wants to feel important and he wants an easy life. That’s it. He has no political or social motivations beyond

“I don’t wanna remember a thing, and I want to be someone important… like an actor.”

Cypher is the worst kind of asshole: One who doesn’t care about a damn thing besides his own personal gain.

Things weren’t just as polarized. You are intentionally leaving out a HUGE culture shift in the people between The Matrix and the Dixie Chicks being canceled. And if you didn’t understand that the world WAS different, even though there was just a few years apart, then you are DEFINITELY a child lying about their age.

No one who was alive for both those incidents think they occurred in the same vein of history.

Dixie chicks were post 9/11, if you’re going to leave out that VERY important detail when talking about the times, then you don’t understand how that day was basically the beginning of the shitstorm we have today.

Matrix was before all that. And yes… things can seriously change within just a couple years.

funkless_eck,

apart from him wanting to conserve the status quo?

DadVolante,
@DadVolante@sh.itjust.works avatar

Dude, that’s almost every heavy in a movie.

Is everyone you don’t like on tv a conservative? Are you 12?

funkless_eck,

it was a joke, there is no need to take it seriously. I have no real interest in discussing how closely aligned to any given real political view points fictional characters from a 20 year old movie are.

happy Christmas

DadVolante,
@DadVolante@sh.itjust.works avatar

Suuuuuuuuure

TheDeepState,

Plug me back in.

mp3, in I might move again. (Or not)
@mp3@lemmy.ca avatar

Meh, just need to find an instance that seems friendly and stable enough then try to keep it afloat.

Octopus1348,
@Octopus1348@lemy.lol avatar

I think I’ll stay here if there are no problems. That’s why I used the word “might”

Apollo2323, in I might move again. (Or not)

Oh no :(

Octopus1348,
@Octopus1348@lemy.lol avatar

Why?

brckd, in My wife "sucks"

My WiFi sucks

Kase,

Same

SpeakinTelnet, in I'll be spending Christmas with Lemmy this year, thank you
@SpeakinTelnet@sh.itjust.works avatar

Whoever thinks suggesting crypto to family members is a good idea deserves the hate.

scrubbles,
@scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

I did when family asked me. I said it’s a good way to play with spare cash that you have no qualms about losing. That it’s the most volatile place you can put your money, either making a few bucks or losing it all

That’s how everyone described crypto, right?

Sigh_Bafanada,

My mate made 15k the other day from investing in a shitcoin. Then he told us about all of the other shitcoins he invested in that went to zero.

Overall he does make a profit, but that’s with a lot of knowledge in the sector and a lot of understanding that you’re going to lose far more often than you win.

Cannacheques,

Nah I don’t suggest anyone ever invest in crypto but simply to observe in the apps and be open minded, e.g. if you invest 10 dollars and watch the scene for some time you can see where things are going and have a long view rather than their 1000s in a big gamble. I doubt anyone I know is that dumb anyway

SkybreakerEngineer,

But guys, AES256 is the new standard!

AVincentInSpace,

ik you’re being facetious but

“new”

wreckedcarzz,
@wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

Unless they hate their family and want to see them come crashing down in a ball of fire and misery, finally getting what they deserve for decades of pain they themselves created

…why are you looking at me like that

Kase,

In that case, go for it :)

jasondj,

I bought bitcoin at $6.

Now if I could only find that damn hard drive.

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