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banana_meccanica, in Plane goes brrrr

Not only the billionaires, even the millionaires, and all the people taking the plane more than once a year. It is an ecological crime the pollution of air transport.

tilcica,

fun fact. modern planes consume ~3-4l per 100 passengers per km or 3-4l per passenger per 100km.

efficient ICE cars consume ~6l per passenger per 100km.

add to that, that there’s basically no good alternative to fast very long distance or cross-continent transport

tjhart85,
@tjhart85@kbin.social avatar

Is that planes that are packed to the gills or private planes that actually have space that people aren't crammed into?

Also, 3-4/6 liters of what? ICE cars and modern planes aren't burning the same fuel, so I'm not sure what this is intending to portray by directly comparing how much of each (in liters) that they burn (serious question, no snark)

drolex,

efficient ICE cars consume ~6l per passenger per 100km.

More like 6L per 100km, whatever the number of passengers, I suppose. So it’s usually still less than planes.

And there are better alternatives like trains or buses, which can be actually efficient for long distance travels (high speed trains, night travel. Works well from city centre to city centre)

There is also the additional issue of contrails which are a massive factor of greenhouse effect

Luccus,

Edit #2: ICE is a type of train in germany. I mistook “ICE cars” as meaning trains and was wondering how flying is supposed to be more efficient than trains. Hence my confusion.

**OG comment (invalid, see Edit #2):**Where are these numbers coming from?

I cannot find any source for the 3-4l/passenger/km claim. I cannot find any source for the claim that planes are more efficient. Nothing comes even near this claim.

ourworldindata.org/travel-carbon-footprint

eea.europa.eu/…/rail-and-waterborne-transport

www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-49349566

Can you please provide a source?

Edit #1: I just want to add that my old combustion car (VW Up! / Seat Mii / Skoda Citigo) burned around 4.2l/100km. So I according to you, if I had another person with me, I’d beat both planes and trains with what stands uncontested as the most inefficient form of transport?

the_post_of_tom_joad, in Plane goes brrrr

It drives me crazy, this performative enviornmentalist bullshit. I have to pay 10c (on top of 300% food cost increase don’t forget) for a plastic bag at the grocery when i forget my canvas ones. In these bags i must pay for i can place fruit individually wrapped in plastic.

Every time something gets worse, we must be the ones to pay. This whole environment-saving-by-paper-straw phenomenon is so insipid that I would rather believe that it’s actually a deliberate corporate strategy. At least that would make sense. If they keep us thinking that something is being done, they don’t have to change a thing, and if it’s “all of our jobs” (read: not theirs), to save the world, we’ll never take them to task for their (greater) part of the waste.

MxM111,
@MxM111@kbin.social avatar

Nothing beats collection of beer/cola can's pull tabs for recycling competition at schools. That forces children to ask parents to buy more of the six packs so that they could have the tabs.

VikingHippie,

You’re treating it like a hypothetical but that is in fact exactly what’s going on.

Corporations and the politicians they own are hyperfocused on (relativee to centralised) inefficient end user recycling and regular people taking responsibility for the environment and climate change to distract from the fact that maybe 95%+ of it are the fault of corporations, not their customers.

Even consumer waste is many times worse than it would be if companies didn’t for example use all that plastic and design electronics to become obsolete if functional at all in as little as a single year just to squeeze as much money out while spending as little as possible.

Grumpy,

It is actually a deliberate corp strategy. Plastic straws were never a real concern, save for that ONE turtle. Plastic straw make such a negligible amount of plastic waste that stop using it will have virtually zero measurable impact in amount of plastic waste we create. All it ever was intended for was to make us feel like something was being done while doing absolutely nothing.

That’s not to say all plastic reduction initiatives are pointless. But the straws definitely belong in the least environmentally impactful category.

Zamundaaa,

All it ever was intended for was to make us feel like something was being done while doing absolutely nothing.

It certainly does help a little bit. But it’s of course still not a coincidence that companies are pushing for it instead of more effective measures… It’s not just cheap but it also pushes people to believe that measures to save the environment are all useless and annoying, and makes them less likely to want more to happen.

lolcatnip,

It’s the “thoughts and prayers” of environmentalism. I’m convinced the net effect is negative after you factor in the way it distracts people from anything that might actually help.

trailing9,

Can we use Lemmy to figure out what should be done, push for that change, and bring plastic straws back?

pinkdrunkenelephants,

Fund a grassroots media campaign advocating to make corporations pay to fix the environment and for price control laws to stop them passing on costs to the consumer.

At some point, people are going to have to accept their legal systems have been completely broken by regulatory capture and that they’re going to have to go to war to implement new governments that actually will do what the people want them to do. That’s the real talk that needs to happen

bobby_hill, in Feel old?

Most oil (like, 99% of it, IIRC) is from decayed plant matter, not animal matter.

idunnololz,
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It’s not saying they turned into oil. They turned into an oil rig. /s

spicytuna62,
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But that’d make a lot of sense when you consider the fact that trees outnumber people like 380:1.

Zehzin, (edited )
@Zehzin@lemmy.world avatar

While we’re being pedantic about dinosaurs and children’s cartoons (my favorite pasttime), Littlefoot and Spike would have lived like 90 million years apart from Cera.

usualsuspect191,

And Ducky shouldn’t have eyelashes. Wait, does Cera have external ears??

Cornelius_Wangenheim,

It’s actually mostly plankton. Most traditional oil deposits formed from shallow seas.

FordBeeblebrox, in MrJiggleAss@yahoo.com

My first Hotmail address was based off my football position and jersey number. During high school I changed positions and numbers along the way, making it obsolete like a year after creating it

Still useful for signing up to things I know are gonna spam me with bullshit though, the ad copy can join old MySpace reminders.

Tankton,

Ah, mister SafetySafety88 ?

miroslav, in Majestic

One and a half men

pascal, in MrJiggleAss@yahoo.com

Does anyone remember when marijuana.com allowed to create a free email?

Squid, in MrJiggleAss@yahoo.com

I use it as an alt now

stanka, in Really be some crazy people out there thinking they piss gold

The one constant in all of your failed relationships is you.

pomodoro_longbreak,
@pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works avatar

Joke’s on you, all my relationships have been successful.

Catsrules,

This sounds like one of those old demotivational poster.

Godric, in Every day we stray further from God's light.

Desperately seeking content will the death of the internet, change my mind

NigelFrobisher, in Let 'em COOK!

That’s actually sweater weather in Kelvin.

VicksVaporBBQrub, in aww

The council is wet and requests motion to unwet. All those in favor?

567PrimeMover, in This is why I cleverly have no RAM
@567PrimeMover@kbin.social avatar

Fun fact: It's a much simpler job to guide a vehicle to a planetary body than it is to render a webpage with a flat theme.

Source: It came to me in a dream

GuybrushThreepwo0d,

Well… You need like what, 3 floats for position and 4 more for orientation. Multiply that by 3 to get velocity and acceleration values. Then I don’t know a few more floats per sensor and you have your whole state space in a few bytes.

Meanwhile a single image is like a megabyte so yeah.

Source: it’s past midnight and I should have gone to sleep ages ago

Gormadt,
@Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

And don’t forget about redundancies

The programming for the Apollo program was hand woven so comparing it to modern systems is kinda like comparing apples to oranges

Honestly the computers for the Apollo program were amazing and I highly recommend looking into the whole thing more, it’s so incredibly cool

N00b22, in This is why I cleverly have no RAM

Meanwhile I have 16 GBs, and I feel that I should update to 32…

dindresto,

I upgraded to 64gb last week

Mothra,
@Mothra@mander.xyz avatar

Did it work? I struggle with 32 sometimes, but I am blaming it on the software

tkk13909,

Y’all are in the double digits? I’ve only got 8 and I’m doing fine

Mothra,
@Mothra@mander.xyz avatar

You are blessed

Franzia,

The chosen one

tkk13909,

One day, I will get 12 and the world will FEAR me!

OrangeXarot,

I had fricking 4GB of ram and 2 cores in my laptop till like two months ago

neshura,
@neshura@bookwormstory.social avatar

Compute intensive stuff usually demands those levels of RAM. I know for gaming the recommendation nowadays is 16GB while 8GB are considered “works for now”. There are some games though that still benefit from more RAM (I upgraded to 32GB on my old PC for a Beta of a Sim game as it maxed out my 16GB to the point of lagging my PC)

tkk13909,

Bruh I play Minecraft with shaders on this thing. What more could a man want?

x52,

I have 32 but have never come close to using all 32 gigabytes.

Goo_bubbs,

You don’t think you’ll ever really use all 32GB at the same time until you’re running a virtual machine or two and open task manager to see that you’re consistently using over 82% of your RAM, which happened to me today.

eatham, in Let 'em COOK!
@eatham@aussie.zone avatar

Their faces melted off in the heat

ipkpjersi, in Stereotypes are wrong and bad

And they say that women are hornier than men, shaking my smh my head

BackOnMyBS,
@BackOnMyBS@lemmy.world avatar

i lol’d out loud

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