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bdonvr, in Smh they made video games political

Unfortunately it’s not really a step by step guide

CileTheSane,
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Step 1: Don’t purchase or play games with micro-transactions

bdonvr,

Alright coo- ah fuck they just updated it and now it has micro transactions.

MiddledAgedGuy,

I was gonna come in with the obvious “see step 1” joke. But what if they added it to a game you paid for? That’d be some bullshit.

bdonvr,

That was the meaning I was going for. It has happened.

CileTheSane,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

Step 2: Don’t purchase micro-transactions (see step 1)

Blackout, in Whatever gets people engaged in the process
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Hey yo, us 40-somethings invented memes. Who can forget the political discourse surrounding I can haz cheeseburger. Nearly started a civil war.

Luci,
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Back in my day, we called them image macros

Luci, in Whatever gets people engaged in the process
@Luci@lemmy.ca avatar

Shit, I just turned 40!

lugal,

Have fun listening to the radio

Luci,
@Luci@lemmy.ca avatar

Good lord! Is it AM radio!?

bigkahuna1986,

HAM radio my guy.

Luci,
@Luci@lemmy.ca avatar

phew! I don’t have an operators license so I’m good!

_dev_null,
@_dev_null@lemmy.zxcvn.xyz avatar

Good news, you only need a license to transmit! Anyone can buy the equipment and listen in!

Luci,
@Luci@lemmy.ca avatar

Ah! There is a cost involved! I’m poor!!

jawa21,

Nope. websdr.org

Luci,
@Luci@lemmy.ca avatar

FINE! I’ll get into HAM radio!!

bigkahuna1986,

Here’s a community in case you’re suddenly interested: c/hamradio

Luci,
@Luci@lemmy.ca avatar

Crap… I am interested!

imgprojts,

I used to love ham but now I’m vegan. So there’s that.

pingveno, in Smh they made video games political

Where I would love to see micro-transactions be a thing is news articles, videos, and other creative works. I’m happy to pay for someone’s work, especially if I’m not paying a bunch of overhead to some shitting credit card company. At the same time, I have no wish to pay for a $20 monthly subscription for the local newspaper in Middleofnowhere, Montana just so I can read one article.

carl_dungeon, in Common Marx W

You can always follow up when someone says “states rights” with “to do what?”… because the answer was “have slaves”.

slurpeesoforion,

And “limited government”. Limited to do what?

Madison420,

Sorta, the valid but shitty argument is that it was an interstate trade dispute the South was mad at the federal government about.

KepBen,

What commodity was the federal government interfering with that got them so angry?

Madison420,

Slaves, duh.

It’s not my argument people, it’s an explanation of the new version of states rights the right spews in bad faith.

shalafi, (edited )

Agrarian South vs. Industrialized North made for an unfair trade balance. You can hardly trade a bale of cotton for a steam engine, that kinda idea I believe. Been 30+ since college American History, forgot the exact gripes.

We could probably find these disputes in the various Letters of Secession. They almost all start with slavery, but there were other complaints.

EDIT: I was wrong. The letters are almost 100% “bla, bla, bla, we’re being treated unfairly and we’re leaving.” Surprisingly little mention of slavery, but get a load of Mississippi’s letter! LOL my god, y’all just gonna have to read that one yourself. (I had always assumed that letter was typical and I was wrong.)

EDIT: Oh fuck me, I’m wrong again. The linked are merely the official ordinances, not Letters of Succession. Hence why they’re all dry legalese. But I did arouse your curiosity about Mississippi, so here go their letter.

Veraxus,
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That’s an easy one.

It means “disassemble all checks and balances, strip the people of all power and authority, and concentrate the power and authority into the hands of a chosen party-aligned dictator or oligarchy.”

Small government doesn’t get any smaller than a totalitarian dictatorship.

Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug,

Another interesting note I bring into the states rights argument is that the south wanted to force the north to send back escaped people and were actually sending people into the north to kidnap black people, many of whom were never born slaves.

So yeah the north wanted the right to gives rights to the people in it, and the south thought that didn’t apply to black people.

TranscendentalEmpire,

So yeah the north wanted the right to gives rights to the people in it, and the south thought that didn’t apply to black people.

I think that gives a bit too much credit to the vast majority of Union citizens. Yes there were some groups of Quakers who actually believed in freeing slaves and protecting their rights, but that was a minority opinion .

The majority of people in the union disagreed with slavery for economic and political reasons that were unattached to the morality of slavery. Even progressive politicians like Abe Lincoln who wanted to free slaves, also wanted them to be shipped to the Dominican Republic or Africa afterwards.

Madison420,

Abolitionist v radical abolitionist and emacipationist v radical emancipationist.

History is fun like that…

Zoboomafoo,
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And to radicals, there is no greater foe

ricecake,

The war did polarize people into holding stronger opinions than they did before though.
Even if they started as unionists more than anything else, being opposed to the South turned into also opposing what they stood for. As evidenced by a lot of the most popular northern camp songs, matches and letters, it didn’t take long for “hang Jeff davis, the traitorous scoundrel” to turn into “hang Jeff Davis, the traitorous, slaving scoundrel. Let’s shoot rebels in the name of freedom!”.

Wanting to shoot confederates is a weird reason to become pro emancipation, but I’ll take it.

Kusimulkku, in Smh they made video games political

I think a lot of Eastern European socialist states had ton of bribes (or sometimes “gifts”) to get anything done, including in some places “gifts” to your doctor.

Unfortunately Marx didn’t eliminate all the micro transactions

bdonvr,

Is it like that in Cuba?

Kusimulkku,

I don’t know what’s their situation with corruption/bribery.

Are you asking rhetorically meaning they don’t or seriously asking? Because if you are asking I could try to look it up but don’t know offhand.

DragonTypeWyvern,

I don’t tend to trust anything I hear about Cuba tbh, one way or the other.

End the embargo and let’s see how things stack up.

Kusimulkku,

We don’t have an embargo afaik

DragonTypeWyvern,

Of Cuba?

They are famously embargoed by America, except for food and medicine. Which is a pretty big deal, considering how important the US market is for any state in the American continents.

Kusimulkku,

I’m not from America

Justas,
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Or you had a friend who worked at the store or the factory and could get you stuff because they liked you. A hundred friends could get you further than a hundred roubles.

Kusimulkku,

I’ve heard that too. Connections being everything. I think those “you help me I help you” is sorta like micro transactions too.

Jamie, in Whatever gets people engaged in the process
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Political memes are just the non-grandma version of political cartoons.

set_secret, in Nuts are relatively healthy

should be rebranded to ‘bust a nut November’ eveyone gets to come.

MufinMcFlufin,

Have you considered Nonstop Nut November?

Flaky, in The other inflation issue
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Well now I learned Viacom also provided billboard ads.

Custoslibera, in Smh they made video games political

Whoa whoa whoa, are you posting a meme that’s tangentially political to the Marxist Leninist meme community?

I’m a capitalist shill and this offends me because it challenges my worldview and I don’t like that.

DragonTypeWyvern,

This is outrageous.

It’s not like there’s a perfectly functional meme community at Lemmy.world that is suitable for properly sucking off the “job creators”

explodicle,

Clearly this should go on some other community with no subscribers. That way your message is neatly filed away somewhere nobody else will see it, especially me. I’m just in favor of proper sorting, that’s all! /s

dangblingus, in and where did that bring you?

Just don’t assign corporate ownership of the fields and it’s all good baby.

fosforus,

Just don’t overadjust and en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolkhoz

lolcatnip,

Personal ownership is just as bad. That leads to OG feudalism.

Jax,

Were I not lazy, I’d be willing to bet if I sift through their comments that I’d find something about landlords being bad.

theangryseal,
Jax,

Well, utilizing a little thing called “context clues” you can see that I’m very clearly not talking about the person I’m responding to. I’m talking about the person claiming private ownership would be better.

My point, is the hypocrisy. But I get it, over half of America reads below a 6th grade level. Ya’ll need help getting there.

theangryseal,

Well, you called it with me. I was denied an education so I could work and support my family.

Horrah. Good on you. Very observant.

dangblingus,

What hypocrisy have you unearthed?

Jax,

“Were I not lazy”

I get it, you don’t read.

Roflol,

If i care for area for years, build, plant etc, someone else can come take it?

decisivelyhoodnoises,

No, but you should not be allowed to accumulate more than what you can consume when your community is starving

Roflol,

But you can throw people out of your community? Then some communities will be a lot better off than others

decisivelyhoodnoises,

Yes, but as long as the “better” community doesn’t interfere and doesn’t try to take advantage of the less good communities I don’t see a problem. And of course doesn’t steal them their area and resources. Or does’t try to expand in ways that they accumulate more goods and resources than they need and can consume

Roflol,

Hmm, who decides when they have too much area, and stops them from not following rules?

decisivelyhoodnoises,

Is this a genuine question wanting to find an answer? Only their consciousness can really prevent them or a “law enforcement” that we should first find a way to be uncorrupted. Is this realistic nowadays? Of course not, but we were talking hypothetically I think

FastAndBulbous,

What should happen is that the people who haven’t sowed the crops could do some work in order to earn access to the crops. Then we could create some kind of system whereby people get rewarded for the work they provide with an abstract token. We could call this money and people could exchange it for goods and services.

decisivelyhoodnoises,

Yeah so what? The problem is the disproportionate accumulation of resources, goods or money. Which leads to accumulation of more of them, which lead to accumulation of power. There must be a limit on personal concentration of these. Anything above a level that is considered personal should belong to the community. Then there will be no incentive to make people capable of exploiting other people.

FastAndBulbous,

There would also be no incentive for anyone to produce anything beyond what they personally need, which would definitely lead to widespread food shortages. The more food that is produced at once the more efficient the labour is per crop, which is exactly why farms boomed in size after the industrial revolution and advent of farming machinery.

decisivelyhoodnoises,

They incentive would be the prosperity of the community as long as people stop seeing each other competitive. Personal gain over dead bodies is only cancer.

FastAndBulbous,

So you think human beings should change their basic hardwired nature? Obviously humans have a tendency to care for the people closest to them over complete strangers. Humans always will come into conflicts of interest. What you’re asking for is for humanity to basically act perfectly all the time.

decisivelyhoodnoises,

Sure, they developed this mentality when surviving could also be competitive. When there was not enough food for all and somehow surviving meant that it will not be for all. Now we prefer to destroy tones of food in favor of economy because if there is extra food this means that the price go down

FastAndBulbous,

I think there is only so much humans can change. We aren’t beings of infinite moral potential and there will always be points of conflict.

exponential_wizard,

You can still have money and markets. The fundamental problem is the ownership of land and businesses.

the_q,

Or those that are able to farm can do that and provide the food for those that can cook and provide that for those that can build who can provide that for those who can sew etc etc and all that can be shared with those who can’t do anything because at the end of the day a person’s worth should not be determined by what they can provide.

Zengen,

If you can’t provide anything at all please tell me what the value of their life is? They better provide some dam good conversations. Cuz if the people are starving? I’m not wasting food on people that can’t contribute anything.

the_q,

Sounds about right. You vote Republican, right?

You poor soul. You’ve been indoctrinated so hard by capitalism that you can’t value a human life if that life can’t give you something.

I hope you don’t have pets.

FastAndBulbous,

How do we ensure the correct amount of people are doing the correct amount of work? The good thing about markets is that when demand is high and supply is low it suddenly becomes lucrative to do that thing and it attracts people to doing said thing. It becomes self correcting. If you leave people to just do what they most want to do everybody will choose to do what they consider fun rather than what is needed.

the_q,

What’s wrong with doing what’s fun? Necessity is an interesting motivator. The problem is when capitalists commoditize necessity.

FastAndBulbous,

There’s nothing wrong with having fun, but if people just did what they wanted to do all the time, society would just straight up collapse.

How likely is it that people’s preferred jobs match up with exactly what is needed?

the_q,

Squirrels don’t have jobs. There isn’t some overly complex system in place to keep the raccoons doing a repetitive task to ensure that hollowed or trees are available to them. The spiders don’t own those trees and almost exclusively benefit from the raccoon’s labor.

Human society should absolutely collapse if it can’t exist without all the inequality and suffering.

FastAndBulbous,

We aren’t any of those animals though so I don’t see how it’s relevant to the discussion. We have evolved to form societies, and as such we need to work out the best frameworks given our fundamental human nature.

Other animals are in intense life and death competition with each other generally. There is not a single animal I’d rather be than a human. Non human wild animals have excruciatingly tough existences.

the_q,

You’re right. We aren’t those animals; we’re apes. Still animals though. Animals form communities. They feel emotions. They have problem solving skills. They communicate. They also can deviate from observed behaviors when food and safety are readily available. You don’t think that’s relevant? Hmm… That says a lot.

There are plenty of humans who are in intense life or death competitions with each other. What you mean to say is that you’re happy being male, likely white and have McDonald’s within driving distance.

FastAndBulbous,

I think you’ve gone completely off the rails here. You said everyone should be free to just do the job they want. I pointed out that perhaps what people want to do wouldn’t match up with what actually needs to be done. You started banging on about squirrels rather than admit that what I said is actually probably the case.

I’ve never denied humans aren’t in intense competition with each other. I just don’t think it’s relevant to point to squirrels as an example of how humans should work, they clearly are very different from us.

the_q,

Alright. What needs to be done?

FastAndBulbous,

What, in the world generally? Do you genuinely want me to list every job that needs doing?

the_q,

Go ahead and list a few.

FastAndBulbous,

You’ll forgive me for not doing that just because you’ve entirely missed the point of my argument.

decisivelyhoodnoises,

Other animals are in intense life and death competition with each other generally.

Humans on the other hand, travel to the other half of the earth in order to kill other humans because they’re afraid that other humans will destroy their economy in the other side of the earth.

Talk to me more about the superiority of humans over animals. I’m listening

FastAndBulbous,

I’d rather not engage with you. This conversation has derailed into silliness.

decisivelyhoodnoises,

Goodbye

dangblingus,

I wasn’t advocating personal ownership either. But how does that lead to OG feudalism?

lolcatnip,

Wealth inequality trends to increase over time. Without some system that actively redistributes wealth, eventually a few people own everything of value, and ordinary people are obligated to do whatever the lords want in order to gain access to the material resources they need to survive. That’s feudalism.

the_q,

You mean like how it is right now?

Zengen,

Can you name me one single time in human history that this wasn’t just the condition of the human race? Every time humans try to institute a wealth redistribution mechanism it becomes corrupted in less than 70 years and it just becomes feudalism again where the people are impoverished and starving and the only people living well are state officials lol

lolcatnip,

Every pre-agricultural society? I’m not saying they didn’t have their own problems, but feudalism wasn’t one of them.

TheSanSabaSongbird,

Small scale hunting and gathering societies are universally egalitarian because it’s impossible for any one person to accumulate significant wealth or to control resources. The way members of such societies gain influence therefore is through virtue and personal merit. This is the social system that we evolved to live in over hundreds of thousands of years, and it’s why we still haven’t figured out an equally amenable replacement in the mere ten thousand years since we adopted agriculture.

That said, for better or worse, agriculture is a trap, and once we adopted it, there was never any going back, so we have no choice but to keep trying with what we have.

iesou, in Real

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EatYouWell, in great car advice

I’m really curious to see how they affixed the spark plugs to the lugs. I’m guessing glue of some sort.

ironhydroxide,

I’d bet the car originally had lug bolts in a m12x1.25… which is also a common spark plug thread size

Rivalarrival,

Some hubs use lug bolts into a threaded hub instead of lug nuts on protruding studs. Lug bolts don’t seem to be as common as studs.

r00ty,
@r00ty@kbin.life avatar

Not to mention how they're delivering the high voltage to the plugs and how a tiny spark will melt snow. Glow plugs might stand a slightly better chance. Slightly.

ComradeSpood, in Common Marx W
@ComradeSpood@lemmyunchained.net avatar

I may be an anarchist, but I can admit Marx has some banger quotes.

Tak,
@Tak@lemmy.ml avatar

Under no pretense

Zehzin, (edited )
@Zehzin@lemmy.world avatar

“We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.”

DragonTypeWyvern,

Correct. The monarchies and oligarchs have it coming.

DragonTypeWyvern, (edited )

I tend to consider him right in basically all his criticisms, misguided in formulating the solutions.

Presumably he ran into the trouble a lot of generous, intelligent, and honest people have, they assume everyone is basically like them other than circumstance and stress.

And, obviously you can trust a fellow socialist to run the vanguard states, right?

They get it. Heirarchy bad, racism bad, sexism bad, he’s been over this!

Or perhaps he was simply, like everyone, merely a product of his time. The workers of his day were barely literate, every state other than America and France (depending on what exact year we’re talking) were absolute monarchies, etc etc etc.

freijon, in Smh they made video games political

The thing is: If everyone hated it, it would not work. But sadly it DOES work.

DrJenkem,
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Lootboxes are legalized gambling for minors. So yeah, no shit it works. Just because a thing is profitable doesn’t make it good. The opioid epidemic proved very profitable, but just like gambling for kids, doesn’t make it a thing we should accept or want for our society.

freijon,

I did not say or try to imply that it’s good. I said sadly it works. With emphasis on SADLY.

DrJenkem,
@DrJenkem@lemmy.blugatch.tube avatar

Fair enough, I’m certainly not about to disagree on the profitability of gambling (for the house specifically).

Graylitic,

It certainly brings in Profit. It doesn’t “work” as in provide value to society, but it certainly works in making profit.

Its part of why the Profit motive is fundamentally flawed and encourages manipulation, addiction, and general bullshittery.

this,
@this@sh.itjust.works avatar

Well, theres “working” and theres “working well”. Capitalism is not working so well anymore and its likely going to work worse as time goes on. more things will become automated, wealth inequality (and therefore a gap in political power) will grow, and companies will keep expecting increased growth in a world of limited(and in some cases, decreasing) resources. Capitalism currently “works” in the sense that its making resources move around, but thats about all its doing for regular, non rich, non well off people(and often is not doing even that much for them). It’s simply not sustainable when unregulated, thats why we need a well regulated economy.

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