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SpaceNoodle, (edited ) in Vegan food: The west vs India

Wrong. The fake meat in the top portion is overprocessed and tastes like garbage instead of delicious meat, while the bottom portion is 100% delicious vegan food.

Edit: downvotes from people who hate vegan food, I guess.

yukichigai,
@yukichigai@kbin.social avatar

Depends on the brand IMO. I actually really like Impossible Meat; to me it tastes like decent quality beef with some really good hard to place seasoning. If it wasn't so damn expensive I'd get it over actual ground beef.

SpaceNoodle,

It’s still overpriced and overprocessed. Ridiculous sodium levels as well.

Omgarm, in Vegan food: The west vs India

Nutella is vegan.

zakobjoa,
@zakobjoa@lemmy.world avatar

It’s not, though?

EmpathicVagrant,

I mean . . . is it or not, because your punctuation confuses the matter.

starman2112,
@starman2112@sh.itjust.works avatar

The question mark denotes confusion or flabbergastedness. Nutella contains milk, so it’s explicitly not vegan

Neato,
@Neato@kbin.social avatar

They were referring to the comma. Commonly used with a verbal pause. So like: "It's not...though?" As if the "though?" was its own thought and the only part of the sentence that had the question inflection.

dogslayeggs,

That’s the point. Indian food is rarely vegan.

bloubz,

Dotworlders are so weird

yukichigai,
@yukichigai@kbin.social avatar

Jello is not vegan.

starman2112,
@starman2112@sh.itjust.works avatar

That’s oreos you’re thinking of

Hadriscus, in If you're feeling left out it's probably because you defend billionaires who would mince you into fertilizer

Mince you into fertilizer 😂 Reminds me of Soylent Green and Oddworld

db2, (edited ) in Vegan food: The west vs India

Vegans are great, especially with garlic in a nice butter sauce.

Edit: also you’re literally made out of chemicals.

EmpathicVagrant,

Literally not a single thing in our world isn’t chemicals. Lemontek - chemicals interacting. Alcohol for some party - Chemicals. Every part of any meal - chemicals. All of it.

tdawg,

In general I think people are referring to things that are either A) heavily proccesed and/or B) something that isn’t naturally occurring. When they speak about “chemicals”

Your body is made to eat natually occuring plants and animals. Any deviation from that is risking long term issues. Effects that are very often (at least here in the states) ignored unless they just straight up kill you. And even then it’ll probably take a couple decades before anyone actually does something about it. So, yes while many people misuse the word “chemical,” their fear is not misplaced. You should be skeptical of things that are synthesized until they are proven to interact with the human body appropriately

IntentionallyAnon,

I’m sure cows do not care that the beef in them is healthy

Neato,
@Neato@kbin.social avatar

B) something that isn’t naturally occurring

  1. Humans are natural. We are evolved animals.
  2. Humans created everything humans consider artificial.
  3. Therefore everything deemed artificial is actually natural.

🤓

tdawg,

Yea yea. You know what I mean

chemicalprophet,

Yeah, that argument is idiotically obtuse.

explodicle,

Is light a chemical?

spauldo,

It’s not a thing.

Granted, there are things in this world that aren’t chemicals. Muons, stuff at the LHC, plasma… But everything that a normal person interacts with is a chemical.

ryannathans,

I love how lemon tek was your first example

EmpathicVagrant,

That one’s just for you. People always go off about it being a natural chemical reaction etc and it’s timely with all the conversation about growing acception of psychadelics for mental health

abraxas,

I think we need to understand what definition people are using for “chemicals”. They usually are referring to highly processed ingredients, with highly processed preservatives, highly processed artificial flavors (called “natural flavors”, but taken for example from the anal glans of a beaver… yes this is real and common). By the broadest definition, absolutely everything is a chemical. Generally, people should avoid any definition for a word that makes the word nonsensical. And also generally, you will find big lobbyist groups using that general definition to shell-game about the specific chemicals they are trying to protect.

When a food-concerned person mentions chemicals, they are referring to things like antibiotics or hormones, preservatives or processed sweeteners with known side-effects. Some of them are talking about isolates, like soy protein isolate to which there are valid health concerns.

And yes, sometimes people referring to chemicals don’t know what chemicals they’re complaining about. And yes, sometimes people complaining about chemicals are complaining that their meatless burger’s consistency comes from methyl cellulose, (probably) completely harmless but absolutely artificial.

The same way some vegans are made ill by the thought of meat, some folks are made ill by flavor- or consistency-related facts in their food. I mean, I think vegans would be concerned to know the beaver anal secretions above was in some plant milks under the term “natural flavors”.

EmpathicVagrant,

Yes! I was merely poking fun, but I very much enjoyed reading through your comment. Thanks for clarifying for us!

abraxas,

Sorry, must be having a very literal day today. My wife says they’re common ;)

EmpathicVagrant,

Don’t you dare be sorry, I genuinely love the energy put into clarification and pedantic detail

abraxas,

That just made my day, thanks!

UnverifiedAPK,

✅ Peppers

❌ Capsaicin

YW

dojan,
@dojan@lemmy.world avatar

I’m a vegetarian, but feel free to cover me in butter and smother me in garlic anyway.

Miclux, in Sadly Israel is too powerful right now, but hopefully one day the genocide will stop!

Remember when memes were fun or satirical? Internet Explorer 5.0 remembers.

SatansMaggotyCumFart, in Sadly Israel is too powerful right now, but hopefully one day the genocide will stop!

This meme is just confused shit.

CCatMan, in Buying a new car is not better than keeping an old one

The used market is going to be full of gas cars for a longtime. Look there of you need gas otherwise go electric if you can.

HipHoboHarold, in Buying a new car is not better than keeping an old one

Keeping an old car is better, but having one that works is even better than that. Cause, you know, eventually cars stop working. That’s a thing.

ytg, in History lives in the present

This war really makes you hate Britain (and possibly France) for causing unrest in the first place

Sunfoil,

Yeah it was a land of peace with no unrest until the British came.

Mrkawfee,

Compared to now it was a utopia.

Sunfoil,

Not for the Jews. Zionism and Islamic anti-Semitism and the violence from these movements predates the British trying to find a solution. However mishandled it was. They are two ideologies fundamentally opposed to one another, and they are incapable of coexistence in their current forms.

joseangel,
@joseangel@lemmy.world avatar

Every should know about the Sykes–Picot Agreement, it’s one of those treaties/laws that have long lasting consequences in the current world (same with ww2 agreements).

15liam20,

Remember to save a little hate for the US

matcha_addict, in Sadly Israel is too powerful right now, but hopefully one day the genocide will stop!

Inb4 people who were silent as Israel has been attacking gaza an average of 3 times per day, are now suddenly worried about civilians when Hamas responded

IkarusHagen2,
@IkarusHagen2@feddit.de avatar

…wikipedia.org/…/Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Is…

Bruh, on a missile strike follows an answer. Don’t be surprised, it’s the old “fuck around and find out”

matcha_addict,

Israel has attacked Palestinians an average of 3 times per day throughout 2023.

empireOfLove,

The only constant is that the civilians lose no matter who’s doing the fucking. Fuck off.

matcha_addict,

Civilians are losing and I blame Israeli apartheid, not the group that attempts to fight back.

nyoooom,

Disagreeing with one side does not mean supporting the other.

matcha_addict,

Disagreeing with any force of resistance to apartheid is a support for apartheid, even if you don’t explicitly spell it out.

“man I sure hate the massacre, but don’t you dare fight back! That’s just as bad!”

Instigate,

Level-headed people are not saying that Palestine shouldn’t fight back against the occupation, they’re just deriding the method they’re using. It’s hard to support a regime that kills civilians and children, even if they’re doing it in response to their civilians and children being killed. Two wrongs usually don’t make a right.

Now the question that I think is still rhetorical and whose answer people can’t agree upon is this: what is the appropriate response to apartheid and genocide? Many would agree that attacking the IDF, government officials etc. would constitute reasonable reactive force, however this is particularly difficult for Palestine due to Israel’s domination of the geography.

What should Hamas do that can expedite the end of apartheid and genocide? I don’t know. It’s a fucked situation. I feel deeply for the Palestinians, especially the almost 50% of them that are under the age of 18, and believe that they need to be liberated. I also feel deeply for Israeli citizens, many of whom didn’t vote for Netanyahu, who have been killed as a result of the Hamas incursion.

This issue is flooded with nuance that’s just going over many people’s heads.

matcha_addict,

If we had to spend our energy critiquing something, Palestinian resistance is the last thing you should critique. Their damage is miniscule compared to what Israel has done, and they’re still far more humane. At the very least, the operation’s target was military installations, encampments and officials. Israel’s target is civilians themselves.

This isn’t to deny that civilians died in crossfire or even needlessly killed. Hamas is not an organized state nor a hive mind, and after living their whole lives in a concentration camp, it’s a miracle that only a minority of their fighters engage in needless killing of civilians who were rave dancing at the gates of their concentration camp.

Can I critique it? Sure, I wish it didn’t happen. But I blame Israel for taking us this far. If it wasn’t for Israel, we wouldn’t have had so many people living in constant war and massacre their entire lives for hate to brew in their hearts. To live with either two choices: wait in suffocating conditions for your death to come, or resist.

Instigate,

We can walk and chew gum. We can critique Hamas AND the Israeli government / IDF. We can accept Israel’s responsibility in pushing the Palestinian people to desperation for survival through apartheid and genocide, and we can condemn Hamas’ killing of civilians. We can call for Israel to immediately ceasefire and we can call for Hamas to immediately ceasefire. We can feel for Palestinian civilians even as we feel for Israeli citizens.

This is not black and white; life rarely is. It’s steeped in nuance. That’s okay to talk about.

matcha_addict,

We can critique Hamas AND the Israeli government / IDF

I already addressed this argument above. If you think my argument wasn’t sufficient or there’s anything wrong with it, please address it directly. Otherwise, I don’t know what to tell you besides restate the same.

We can feel for Palestinian civilians even as we feel for Israeli citizens.

Absolutely. I hope you’re not implying that I said the opposite.

Instigate,

Palestinian resistance is the last thing you should critique

Here you’re conflating Hamas with all Palestinians and implying that Hamas’ actions are merely ‘Palestinian resistance’ which is just incorrect. Palestinian civilians should NOT be lumped in with their unelected (in the last 17 years) leaders, much as Jewish people should not be lumped in with Israel/their government. The majority of Palestinian citizens have never had an opportunity to vote for their leaders.

That point aside, the killing of civilians, whether intentional or through reckless disregard, should never be last on the list of condemnation. We can want Palestine to win their freedom and independence while criticising how Hamas is attempting to achieve that. We should be critiquing innocent slaughter wherever it exists and regardless of who is the perpetrator or victim.

son_named_bort, in Dear bosses everywhere,

Bosses everywhere: So you’re saying we should get rid of the pizza party? Good idea, that’ll save the company money!

jose1324, in The NYC subway banned dogs on trains unless they fit into a small bag, so this guy trained his Pitbull to sit in a small bag.

Does literally no one know what a pitbull is? That’s not one

some_designer_dude,

I’m not a dog scientist, but there’s pitbull in that dog.

jose1324,

Good thing you’re not one then

ThePac, in History lives in the present

Can we just glass Isreal and Palestine both?

samus12345, in Satisfying fart
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

Looks like you didn’t check well enough, several dinos are caught in the blast!

TragicNotCute, in I'm a Possum on the edge !
@TragicNotCute@lemmy.world avatar

“I HEAR YOU, I’m closing the fridge door. Jesus. Have some chill will ya?”

I say to the fridge. It doesn’t laugh at my joke.

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