This is probably just a use of different words to not sound repetitive.
Before anyone starts screaming at me. I’m not taking sides.
The whole thing is fucked and I don’t know enough about it all to form an educated opinion. Ethnic genocide does appear to be what’s happening with my limited knowledge and that is insane, but even in this day and age I am not surprised in the least. That’s as far as my opinion goes on the matter.
This is probably just a use of different words to not sound repetitive.
Then the BBC could have said something like “More than 500 people were slain in Gaza.” They should have used a word that implies that the more than 500 people were actively put to death somehow, like killed or slain.
Keep in mind that the BBC are journalists; they literally do this for a living. Even if it was an innocent mistake, which I 1000% do not believe it is, it would still be an egregious fuck-up. But we know it’s not a fuck-up…
This is probably just a use of different words to not sound repetitive.
Then why do they only do it in the same way, every time, and for other western powers? For example, this is from 2005:
"On the March 18 CBS Evening News, reporter Byron Pitts gave these figures: “Today, U.S. deaths number more than 1,500. There are no exact figures for Iraqi fatalities, but estimates are for every American killed, 11 Iraqis died.” In other words, more than 16,500 Iraqi deaths."
Once is an accident, twice is a coincidence, but decades of examples are clearly a system pattern.
It is possible. But in this case, it is occupier vs occupied. An ethnoreligious state vs stateless people being ethnically cleansed. Something being possible doesn’t make it factual.
Dude had a clear idea he was expressing. The world isn’t a marvel movie, there are no good guys or bad guys, only subjective observations of two different people with different motivations. Depending on how you interpret the situation, you could come to the conclusion that retaliation was inevitable and not have empathy for the perpetrators. You can also hold the opinion that killing sucks, regardless of the circumstances despite this. Making this a good vs evil thing frames this entire complex situation as much more simple than it is, and could be a harmful lens to view the world with.
It is truly not clear that what OP is saying is the explanation you gave, so it was valid to question it.
In any case, “the situation is complex!” is not argument. You have to explain why the person’s view is an over simplification. Declaring that an issue is complex is not enough. There are many complex issues where “X is evil” is still a valid view. Example: WW2 and Nazi Germany.
It would have been okay if they just lived their live peacefully and actually cared to improve. But no, “we need more land and more people over the world seeing how we kill civilians”. This is so going to work for sure, yeah.
Both men started out rich and affluent! Of course they could make profitable companies. I could too with blood emerald money 🤷
But I’m also not the type of narcissist to want to hoard the blood emerald money or whatever Gates had and infinitely increase it beyond what I need to live and thrive.
This has to be the most eat pray love meme I’ve ever seen. Hindus are vegetarian not vegan (disclaimer: they aren’t a monolith) and use a lot of ghee (milk product). That brown dude looks like a Sikh; they are typically not vegetarian or vegan.
Would you blame some Ukrainians for wanting all Russians dead?
What if Russia kept this up for 50 years? What if they cut off power and water to Ukraine? What if they blockaded it for decades? Would you blame them for voting for a party that wants the Russians dead? Do you blame Afghan citizens for supporting the Taliban after a decade of American occupation?
Good luck finding anyone who thinks Hamas’ actions are good, but they are entirely predictable. Hamas is the only outcome that could ever happen with the environment Israel created and maintains to this day.
If riots are the voice of the unheard, terrorists are the voice of those unheard after decades of oppression and occupation.
Would you blame some Ukrainians for wanting all Russians dead?
I mean that’s a fucked up starting point tbh, so yeah, I would.
Ukraine has made it clear they’ll stop at their border. Hamas have made it clear they will not. They’re an existential threat to Israel.
edit: we’re all looking in thinking an equitable two state solution is the answer but Hamas have made it clear that’s not an option for them. How do you discuss anything with someone whose stated goal is to eradicate you?
At least in Northern Ireland the goal was to leave Britain alone after a united Ireland had been achieved.
You really wouldn’t understand why some Ukrainians would support a party that calls for the death of all Russians? You really can’t see why Afghans supported the Taliban during the American occupation? I’m not asking if it’s right for them to do so, or if it’s right for people to support those that do, in asking if you can understand why they’d feel that way.
What are your thoughts about the Haitian slave revolt?
Hamas’ stated goal is a product of Israeli actions. Terrorist groups calling for the destruction of another country don’t tend to form in stable, prosperous, and free countries.
Not to mention that Israel has been actively stealing Palestinian land for decades and recently argued to the UN that all of Palestine was a part of Israel. They aren’t exactly respecting the border either. They are also seen as an existential threat to the Palestinians.
Israel doesn’t see a two state solution as an option either. They either want full control over Palestine or a puppet state that they have almost total control over. No real Arab state would be allowed by them and they’ve made that clear.
Nothing good will happen until tensions deescalate, which can’t happen until Israel backs down from their occupation and oppression. You won’t stop making new terrorists until they are treated as people.
Lemmy.ml is fundamentally a communist community. Leave it and join somewhere like Lemmy.world if you want to be part of a community that doesn’t have a political agenda. This energy you are expanding complaining that a social network isn’t meeting your expectations could be more productively spent just checking which ones do and which ones don’t. You might as well be complaining about all the Star Trek memes on the Star Trek Lemmy instance.
I think you’re the guy I saw over there rambling on about an unfair moderation action then someone pulled the moderation log and it was for saying something like “you can turn any Jew into a Nazi by giving them some land.”
I guess you’re the guy who pulls words out of context and tweaks them to fit their agenda. My shtick is cuter because it’s based on how nationalism actually works. You realize that the whole reason Jews make an easy scapegoat is that they weren’t tied to land, right? That was the biggest reason Nazis wanted them culled. Turns out, Israel proved them right. You tie a religion to some land and it’s easy to pervert a faith into fascism.
Honestly, what were you expecting? There just can’t be any Utopic website or group that won’t fight at all. People moved over to Lemmy because they hated Spez’ decisions, not because they were these mythical, superior moral beings that only help others out of selfless reasons. Sure we all have values and principles but that does not excuse us of our faults.
Point proven. I was just stating my opinion and people feel like they need to dogpile, despite the fact they actually agree with what I’m fucking saying.
I can’t recall with the new one, but the old version; Charlie, Gpa Joe, and Williy Wonka could see the other (umm… modified?) kids leaving the factory with their parents during the glass elevator ride once they bust out through a skylight.
That was the scene I was thinking of and playing the old version now; the elevator ride once it leaves through the roof is just a few remarks about the surroundings like ‘look grandpa there’s my school’, and Wonka telling Charlie he’s giving him the factory. Roll credits, no info on the other kids.
Whenever Israel says their gonna bomb a place to let civilians leave, the Hamas make the civilians stay so they get killed along with them. The Hamas are monsters
Cuz hamas is the reason israel bombs the gaza strip and the people of the gaza strip have chosen to let hamas do what they want. It’s kinda the same reason why anti-israel dumbasses say it’s ok to kill israelian civilists
Do you think history began last Saturday? They don’t bomb Gaza because of Hamas, they bomb Gaza because they’ve been trying to erase Palestine for the last 80 years. They were genociding Palestinians long before Hamas existed.
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