Am I the only one out of the loop? I don’t recognise anybody in this picture, and I don’t know what happened. All I can see is some guy waving a hand in front of someone with a very nice cleavage.
If you do not know who she is – do yourself a favor and do not research it. Unless you are a voter in her district or you are a US citizen, then by all means, do it and make her go away.
Inb4 people who were silent as Israel has been attacking gaza an average of 3 times per day, are now suddenly worried about civilians when Hamas responded
Level-headed people are not saying that Palestine shouldn’t fight back against the occupation, they’re just deriding the method they’re using. It’s hard to support a regime that kills civilians and children, even if they’re doing it in response to their civilians and children being killed. Two wrongs usually don’t make a right.
Now the question that I think is still rhetorical and whose answer people can’t agree upon is this: what is the appropriate response to apartheid and genocide? Many would agree that attacking the IDF, government officials etc. would constitute reasonable reactive force, however this is particularly difficult for Palestine due to Israel’s domination of the geography.
What should Hamas do that can expedite the end of apartheid and genocide? I don’t know. It’s a fucked situation. I feel deeply for the Palestinians, especially the almost 50% of them that are under the age of 18, and believe that they need to be liberated. I also feel deeply for Israeli citizens, many of whom didn’t vote for Netanyahu, who have been killed as a result of the Hamas incursion.
This issue is flooded with nuance that’s just going over many people’s heads.
If we had to spend our energy critiquing something, Palestinian resistance is the last thing you should critique. Their damage is miniscule compared to what Israel has done, and they’re still far more humane. At the very least, the operation’s target was military installations, encampments and officials. Israel’s target is civilians themselves.
This isn’t to deny that civilians died in crossfire or even needlessly killed. Hamas is not an organized state nor a hive mind, and after living their whole lives in a concentration camp, it’s a miracle that only a minority of their fighters engage in needless killing of civilians who were rave dancing at the gates of their concentration camp.
Can I critique it? Sure, I wish it didn’t happen. But I blame Israel for taking us this far. If it wasn’t for Israel, we wouldn’t have had so many people living in constant war and massacre their entire lives for hate to brew in their hearts. To live with either two choices: wait in suffocating conditions for your death to come, or resist.
We can walk and chew gum. We can critique Hamas AND the Israeli government / IDF. We can accept Israel’s responsibility in pushing the Palestinian people to desperation for survival through apartheid and genocide, and we can condemn Hamas’ killing of civilians. We can call for Israel to immediately ceasefire and we can call for Hamas to immediately ceasefire. We can feel for Palestinian civilians even as we feel for Israeli citizens.
This is not black and white; life rarely is. It’s steeped in nuance. That’s okay to talk about.
We can critique Hamas AND the Israeli government / IDF
I already addressed this argument above. If you think my argument wasn’t sufficient or there’s anything wrong with it, please address it directly. Otherwise, I don’t know what to tell you besides restate the same.
We can feel for Palestinian civilians even as we feel for Israeli citizens.
Absolutely. I hope you’re not implying that I said the opposite.
Palestinian resistance is the last thing you should critique
Here you’re conflating Hamas with all Palestinians and implying that Hamas’ actions are merely ‘Palestinian resistance’ which is just incorrect. Palestinian civilians should NOT be lumped in with their unelected (in the last 17 years) leaders, much as Jewish people should not be lumped in with Israel/their government. The majority of Palestinian citizens have never had an opportunity to vote for their leaders.
That point aside, the killing of civilians, whether intentional or through reckless disregard, should never be last on the list of condemnation. We can want Palestine to win their freedom and independence while criticising how Hamas is attempting to achieve that. We should be critiquing innocent slaughter wherever it exists and regardless of who is the perpetrator or victim.
I, on the other hand, enjoy all-natural pickled vegetables, which are just regular vegetables immersed in water, sodium chloride, acetic acid & trace flavors — chemicals which act as preservatives for the vegetables sea salt and vinegar.
I understand the problems with Israel but claiming this is fake is a bit too much for me. Why would you wanna see that… I personally won’t search for them but I’m sure you can find those, they have to be somewhere.
If someone came to me and said “someone just murdered your parents who live in another country”, and I asked for proof. Your inclination is “this guy loves to see photos of dead parents”? Or is it that “this guy wants evidence that this random stranger’s claim is true”?
Go look into it. It was a single extremist settlers account. It’s completely made up. They ran the story to control the narrative. It’s what they’ve been doing for decades.
There are pictures out their of Israeli Soldiers raping freshly decapitated babies out there while sucking dog dicks.
The pictures and videos are out there you just have to look for them.
I understand the problems with Israel Hamas but claiming this is fake is a bit too much for me. Why would you wanna see that… I personally won’t search for them but I’m sure you can find those, they have to be somewhere.
My point is you're supporting something extreme blindly without any evidence and saying "oh no one would lie about that, that's too horrible to lie about."
Is there dead babies somewhere? Probably, I don’t want to look for it either. Was there exactly 40 beheaded babies that journalists claimed “were hidden but reported by the IDF so it was impossible to verify”? Well, I might have a bridge to sell you.
Back in the dark times when I was an admin for a very popular website, some very hateful nazis were sharing images of a dead Jewish child and laughing and claimed to be literally jerking off to the image. They claimed she was 9.
So yknow. Not in a hurry to see pics. Just want a trusted source to verify that they exist.
Without knowing for sure if I saw what the topic is about, I saw 3 images released by an Israel news organisation or government I’m not sure. The first image showed a dead infant that didn’t appear beheaded, I really couldn’t tell the cause of death there were possibly shrapnel wounds but the head was blurred and appeared to be attached. The other 2 appeared to be badly burned (blackened) and deformed, my guess would have been burned in a fire or bomb attack. Going off face value they could have been from either side as none of the images were identifiable in any way and none appeared beheaded imo. There may be other photos but I believe these are the ones in question but could be wrong of course.
He wasn’t arguing, though lol. It was his opinion.
I replied to someone who had no interest in critically engaging and offered two weak and irrelevant options in efforts to downplay another commenters stance on a meme. A literal bad argument vs an opinion to a meme. Try again, you corny head ass 😂
Sorry for my aggressive response, I thought you were trolling but it seems you may have been serious.
In that case, yes you’re wrong. Hamas’ goal is liberation of their people, not maximizing casualties. Israel’s goal is establishing and maintaining a Jewish state, so maximizing casualties (belonging to the wrong religion or ethnicity) is their goal.
Clone Wars did a great job portraying Anakin's gradual slide. There was nuance and plenty of exposure of the good parts of his character. His friendship with Obi-Wan was in evidence. His relationship with Padme was believable.
The fact that post-pubescent prequel-Anakin was ever trusted by anyone is at best evidence of how the dark side clouds perception.
In the prequels, from EPII he continuously felt like someone who should clearly be a Sith being shoehorned into being a Jedi. His friendship with Obi-Wan existed in name only, and his "romance" with Padme was in fact not a better romance than Twilight. (And that's saying something.)
OG fans waited decades to see Vader's backstory, and what we got was about the least rewarding most hamfisted and uninteresting portrayal of that backstory that could have been achieved. Decades of fan appetite regarding that backstory, possibly the only time such a thing has been maintained in the history of cinema, or likely will be again, and Lucas gave us Jar-Jar, cringe dialog, limp acting, and endless CGI.
D&D royally fucked up with GoT, but using the prequels to shine a light on that reads like something from The Onion.
The whole point of it is that whatever you described...
It's only a matter of degree though, at best. The three movies OP refers to were absolute shit in their own way. OP could have done a like to like comparison with Clone Wars and GoT and had a meme that made much more sense.
Meanwhile, I think there's a credible argument that the prequels (you do know what I'm describing, right?) are not in the slightest better than the last season of GoT (if we ignore their contribution to the meme-o-sphere), making OP fairly weak, and in an almost Onion-like way.
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