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jimbo, in F#€k $pez

I’ve been here for like 6 months now, maybe more. Posts SEEM to be getting more engagement than when I started. It definitely doesn’t seem like there are fewer users.

dumpsterlid,

The vibrancy of communities is what matters, not total numbers. I have definitely noticed a solidification of new communities into places that feel longterm sustainable.

I mean also people are really tired and beat up, in the US most people are worse off than they were before the pandemic (not good). I don’t blame people for not having the mental bandwidth to join a new social network.

OrteilGenou, in F#€k $pez

Wurd brudder

Paragone, in Fascism Everywhere

Russia, the invader, is the Good Guys, in the Russia vs Ukraine war??

Disinformation-propaganda.

bigthink.com/…/fascism-definition-stanley/

People need to understand those 10 points that are characteristic of Fascism.

Comically, Fascism was invented by a Black man, an African, named Marcus Garvey, and Mussolini stole it from him, then Hitler from him, to the best of my knowledge…

ThereRisesARedStar,

Thats not really a cogent definition of fascism, you’ve got to look at the material changes as liberalism moves into fascism not just the rhetoric

bigboopballs,

you’ve got to look at the material changes as liberalism moves into fascism not just the rhetoric

but vibes

frauddogg,
@frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Did you miss which side has all the swastikas, wolfsengels, death’s heads, and sonnenrads all over their flags, uniforms, and equipment? Or are you just a cracker looking for a cheap gotcha? Rhetorical question, you don’t need to answer-- especially because I don’t dialogue with settlers; I just condemn them

Starshader,

Oh dear. It’s nice that you are getting your infos from a Russian Facebook conspirationist profile. But you should try to not look like a complete badger. Also, sorry I may have say that because I’m actually corrupted by Gate’s nanorobots 5G and the vaccine.

frauddogg, (edited )
@frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml avatar

I love how it’s always “russian disinformation” with you crackers like a substantial chunk of our eyes don’t work. Y’all REALLY WANT your countrymen to uncritically accept the same genocides you do. Wonder how you can even sleep with all that blood on your hands.

ASeriesOfPoorChoices, in F#€k $pez

If the only reason is because of not giving them “ad revenue”, how do you not know about ad blockers in this day and age?

This is an insane take.

GaMEChld,

Some people browse mainly from phone, ad blocking is harder since the API shit went down and most 3rd party apps folded or went to subscription.

Goldmage263,
@Goldmage263@sh.itjust.works avatar

Phone user here, can confirm. Wouldn’t get anything done if I had lemmy or reddit open on my pc.

ASeriesOfPoorChoices,

Porn addiction is not an uncommon thing, I understand.

Goldmage263,
@Goldmage263@sh.itjust.works avatar

Exactly! Add the alchohol and drugs and there’s no self-control left! Glad I’m not the only one, judging by the username.

ASeriesOfPoorChoices,

Harder? What? Ad blocking hasn’t changed at all. Just use a local vpn based blocker like Ad Guard, like a normal person. Stop making this weird.

GaMEChld,

… And use what app to browse it on my phone? I’m not using their trash official app and I’m not using a phone web browser.

ASeriesOfPoorChoices,

Any app. Pick one. It doesn’t matter. Ads are already blocked.

GaMEChld,

Amazing specificity. It’s almost like you won’t give specifics because you don’t know.

ASeriesOfPoorChoices,
GaMEChld,

Yep, that’s what I said. Not a specific app. So you don’t actually have an app in mind do you? I’m not reading a bunch of reddit threads to back your claim for you. You are simply wrong until you back your claim. I mean you can simply tell me what app you use right? The app that’s free and ad free when using your suggested VPN?

ASeriesOfPoorChoices,

Huh? My claim is that ad blocking hasn’t changed from before or after the API stuff. What Reddit app you use - what method of accessing Reddit you use is completely irrelevant to the topic of blocking ads.

They’re ALL ad free when you block ads, you numpty.

I’m not sure if you’re straw manning me, red herring me, are drunk or just completely retarded, but in any case - you’re dumb as fuck.

GaMEChld,

And my claim is that many mobile phone users who used 3rd party apps did not even need a separate ad blocking solution, the apps already blocked them. Thus your claim that “ad blocking has not changed” is wrong.

The ads were blocked from me before, and the app I used is no longer available. That is the definition of changed for my use case. Maybe understand that not everyone uses things the way you use things, you condescending windbag.

ASeriesOfPoorChoices,

If the app changed for you… That is completely irrelevant to the topic of ad revenue. Maybe you responded to the wrong person. Maybe you responded to the wrong post.

But changing Reddit apps doesn’t have anything to do with giving Reddit ad revenue.

To be clear: it didn’t matter if the app you used before didn’t serve ads, since you should be using an ad blocking service making the entire topic (the OP and whatever insanity you’re dribbling) irrelevant and non-existent.

GaMEChld, (edited )

It is not completely irrelevant. It is simply indirectly relevant. The reason people are keen to deny Reddit ad revenue is because the API issue pissed a lot of people off.

Ad blocking alone wouldn’t prevent sponsored posts from showing up, and sponsored posts are also ads.

Stop insulting people before you understand things completely. If you cannot understand other people and just think everyone is an idiot, you might want to get yourself screened for autism. And that’s not an insult, it’s a suggestion.

ASeriesOfPoorChoices,

I don’t think everyone is an idiot, just you, and other people who don’t use adblockers.

I love how you feel the need to explain why people want to block ad revenue - which just supports me, and makes you look retarded. Yes, block their ad revenue. By using an ad blocker.

Fuck you’re dumb. 🤦🤡

GaMEChld,

Ah yes, keep insulting me. That truly shows you know what you’re talking about. Yep you’ve convinced me. Good luck with your future interactions with the rest of society. I’m fairly certain that more people think poorly of you than think highly of you.

I’m glad you glossed over sponsored posts and ignored the fine details of my argument, but that’s about what I’d expect from someone with your irrational combative nature. It’s a pity. You could be so much more than that. Best of luck to you, sincerely. I’ll hope reason can dispel this anger in you some day. I clearly don’t know the words at present to allow you to understand my perspective, and I apologize for that deficiency.

ASeriesOfPoorChoices,

You certainly are deficient in many things! 😂🤡

GaMEChld, (edited )

We all are. Or do you consider yourself a paragon of humanity despite not knowing the definitions of words? Still no comment on sponsored posts with regards to advertisements. And for what it’s worth, I do use an ad blocker, but all ad blockers don’t function the same way, which is another subtle detail I am unsure you are capable of grasping. But that’s ok, it’s not inherently bad that you are ignorant, it’s simply a state of reality. Your irrationality doesn’t negatively impact my life in any meaningful way.

The important thing is that you are happy.

Also, just so I am completely transparent, the reason I have discussed things with you thus far was not for your benefit. I am using you to demonstrate something to others. So thank you for participating in my publicly viewable experiment. It’s been preserved, even if you delete your comments at this point. Have a nice day!

ASeriesOfPoorChoices,

😝 🤡

Install an adblocker, and you and OP are moot. There are no ads when you’re not retarded like you. Regardless of what app or website you use. Fuck you’re stupid.

GaMEChld, (edited )

Thank you for proving my point. Your contributions to science will not be forgotten.

I have follow-up questions. How many people were you successful at convincing of something while calling them names?

I already see that you are an embellishing liar, because you said only I am an idiot, but your post history shows otherwise.

Do you find your conversation skills particularly effective? Do you think there’s anything you can do to improve them?

ASeriesOfPoorChoices,

Try installing an ad blocker, and then Reddit doesn’t get any ad revenue from you! 👍

GaMEChld,

I already use one… Oh, do you not speak English? Or have some condition that affects reading comprehension? You might need to reread this entire thread more carefully. You haven’t answered a single question that I asked. Are you being intentionally obtuse? Aren’t you the one who accused me of “red-herring” and other nonsense?

ASeriesOfPoorChoices,

If you install an adblocker, then you won’t be giving ad revenue to Reddit, regardless of the method used to access Reddit. 👍

yogthos, in If I don't laugh I'd cry
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar
SuperSpruce, in Were this the ‘good ole times’ they always talk about?

This might be a hot take here, but I’d be open to instances running a limited number of ads with minimal tracking to generate enough revenue to keep the instance afloat.

It’s why I did use the official Reddit app at first when I started using Reddit. They can’t bleed money forever. But when they kept making the app worse and worse and worse that’s when I switched to third party apps. And after they killed those, I didn’t have any sympathy for Reddit because I was sick of their continued greed.

MossyFeathers,

Honestly, I’d love it if platforms gave people the option to either pay a subscription and maintain the privacy, or see ads and give up their personal data. However, it looks like we’re going in the, “pay a subscription to watch ads and have data stolen” route.

dauerstaender,

I don’t want any ads. But I’d pay money to a small Verein or something similar to keep a community instance running. Being a profitable customer to a social network works against the best interest to any mental health.

ddkman,

I don’t think ADS were ever the problem. The problem was the ratio. ORIGINALLY adblock plus, when it was a relevant adblocker had an option to allow less obtrusive ads to show. The rules they set for themselves there was pretty reasonable.

SuperSpruce,

I used that for a while specifically because of that feature. But I switched to uBlock origin when I found out it could block those autoplaying videos as well.

pinkdrunkenelephants,

If Lemmy ever does have ads, I will tell everyone to avoid the platform like the plague. No ads. Ever. If your instance is too big to run on donations alone, it’s too big to exist and its members need to branch out.

Future platforms need to be programmed with a max number of users.

ghost_of_faso2,
@ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml avatar

just make the cost to run the server transparent and setup a monthly goal to cover the costs, none of this capitalist shit; with adverts come advertisers botfarms and astro turfing to boot.

isVeryLoud,

I’d rather pay than have ads. I think advertising is a plight upon humanity.

Makeshift,

When I became financially independent I got Reddit premium even though I didn’t really use any of the features. Already had adblock and RES. I just wanted to support the site I spent hours on.

Cancelled that when they killed Apollo.

But I do agree that limited ads aren’t an issue… except for the slippery slope that’s happened. Just a few more ads… just a little more intrusive…

Dio, in Reality Shattered
@Dio@lemy.lol avatar

It’s hilariously ridiculous to know that those who downvoted this post can not accept such a simple reality.

SuckMyWang, (edited )

It is odd to observe. It’s like the idea of being right or wrong has zero nuance to these people and the only viewpoint is being 100% right about everything but then again, may be I’m wrong about that

Daft_ish, (edited ) in If I don't laugh I'd cry

Hey now, Winnie the Pooh is a very wholesome bear who only wants to eat his honey. Oh, bother.

Dio, in If I don't laugh I'd cry
@Dio@lemy.lol avatar

Awesome.

0Xero0, in F#€k $pez
@0Xero0@lemmy.world avatar

what if I mark all of my posts as NSFW, do they still get ad revenue? Or they’re gonna advertise them on Pornhub or something

Gabu, in F#€k $pez

¥0U d0n’7 n33d t0 c3ns0r shit 1n h3r3. Th1s 1sn’t th@t t!kt0k garbage.

Ookami38, (edited )

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AVincentInSpace,

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cristalcommons, (edited ) in F#€k $pez

well said. it’s not about quantity, it’s about quality. and spez enshittified Reddit because of greed, we shouldn’t be greedy ourselves, or Lemmy will get enshittified too. i would like to slowly make it cozy and happy here, we shouldn’t be competing against Reddit, because Lemmy is something different.

any nice user is welcome, please don’t make them feel guilty for being on Reddit too. we will slowly make a nice transition so people have the option to being their stuff here if they want, which is what we need. no rupturism, please. i think we should be welcoming, not warmongering. this was made for users, not against spez. it’s totally different.

spez can go and screw himself, i prefer to appreciate those who do good than to mourn about those who do wrong. don’t waste energies on destructivity, spend them on constructivity.

don’t compare to Reddit, compare to Lemmy on July, to Lemmy now, to what Lemmy could be if we work together. don’t get anxious about growing. focus on ‘growing nice’ instead of ‘growing more’.

we will make it. for sure. and it will be great.

have a nice day.

edit: i realize the ‘not against spez’ could have been worded better. what i try to say is that i prefer to focus my energies on nice people than bad people. i suffered already a lot bc of bad people and i prefer to spend my life supporting nice folks. sorry for the confusion.

stolid_agnostic,

What’s shocking is that it could have been a force for good and community building. Instead he insulated the bullies and allowed people to abuse the system for personal profit. All of this because of an unending sense of entitlement.

cristalcommons,

yea, spez is a piece of garbage, and he did all this for money. and it’s sad to see Reddit worsen so much, as it was sad to see Twitter become the same. still, spez enshittified what nice users made nice before. if we support that kind of users, i’m sure we can even surpass the awesomeness Reddit once had. because awesomeness is not Reddit’s, it’s the internet’s. no matter where it is, if we support, it will bloom.

Goldmage263,
@Goldmage263@sh.itjust.works avatar

Agreed. I’ll be staying with Lemmy. I don’t care about daily active user numbers, I care about how Spez is treating Reddit and having good post content. Redditors themselves (as a whole) are not a problem, and I have a plethora of good posts to go through when I get on every few days.

Have a great day yourself

cristalcommons,

that’s so nice, pal! and yes, it’s totally understandable to feel saddened and angry at spez for doing that (i feel the very same), but we can compile that content here, and welcome their original posters to Lemmy when they feel ready. what it’s worrying is the hateful comments about redditors, calling them names. i think some people is becoming radicalised, and they feel ‘superior’ in some way to other users. i don’t think that ‘cyber snobism’ will help Lemmy in any way, but that’s just my opinion. thanks ^^

art, in Surprised Pikachu
@art@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve seen this one before.

  • A ton of people will complain
  • Firefox will get a bunch of users for a few days
  • 90% will go back to Chrome

That last 10% will be happier but that’s just the way it goes. This is based on Netflix, Reddit, Twitter, and Microsoft.

Da_Boom,
@Da_Boom@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

The rest will go to some other chrome derivative that includes a built in adblocker.

ddkman,

Until google announces that adblocks will be blanket removed from chromium as well. The truth is the only company big enough to maintain a fork this different, is Microsoft, the question is will they feel like they should, or will they side with Google, since this is by their interests as well…

SamC,

A browser is not like a social network though. There’s barely any difference in practical terms between Chrome and Firefox. Once you’ve switched there’s no reason to go back.

dauerstaender,

As long as there is suddenly a new pinned tab with irrelevant info or an unskippable pop up about the new color schemes or data grabbing websites pinned to the top sites or the company firing half their developers even when their CEO gets another pay raise or…

tweeks,

Desktop runs great, but Firefox on Android seems to be noticeably buggy here and there sadly. I still use it, but I can imagine that might drive people out of the ecosystem.

Many people get used to the synchronization of their passwords / bookmarks cross-channel. More advanced users have a separate password management for this I’d figure, but that’s not the default for 90% I’d guess.

dorumon,

I use both a password manager and Firefox password sync.

emeralddawn45,

I’ve never had a single issue with Firefox for Android and I’ve run it on all my phones for like 6-7years at least, probably more but I don’t remember.

atocci,
@atocci@kbin.social avatar

It doesn't play super nice with foldable phones. The UI doesn't adapt correctly without restarting the app and you end up with a very dense interface of overlapping buttons if you try going from open to closed. The address bar becomes completely blocked by all the extra buttons from the tablet layout, so the app is unusable.

emeralddawn45,

Well that’s a pretty specific use case, I’ve only ever met one person with a foldable phone. But yeah they should probably fix that.

tweeks,

Well, in my experience it’s mostly interaction bugs. Quite noticeable when you’re used to Chrome not having these issues.

RogueBanana,

You may think so but there’s always a bunch of posts about why people can’t switch out of chromium in every other Firefox related posts. There are few significant differences and some don’t wanna make any compromise for something better.

stolid_agnostic,

The only ones who can’t are those who have that SUUUPER special plugin that they need and they won’t look at FF alternatives.

the_post_oftom_joad,

I heard from someone who uses a shit ton of tabs in Chrome which Firefox doesn’t do as well apparently. But I’ve been a FF guy for as long as it’s been around and i hate open trans so

stolid_agnostic,

I miss the old Tab Mix Plus. I customized that crap out of that thing and it was lovely.

extant,

Agreed, I think they’re hedging on the amount of people who leave will be less than the increased revenue of those who stay. Considering the ones leaving were never going to allow as revenue anyway what do they really lose?

nixcamic,

This is why I don’t understand why anyone tech savvy isn’t using Firefox. There’s literally no cost. From a user standpoint they’re basically the same thing. The one that isn’t made by an evil monopoly is just the obvious choice.

Ceraldus,

And thus, entropy is presented. Even if only 10% go to Firefox, thats still 10% that aren’t going back to Chrome. And if this repeats with similar results, as you imply, that 90% going back to Chrome is gonna be a lot smaller a few iterations from now.

WaxedWookie,

Until they use their multiple monopolies to further cripple the experience for competitors, entrenching their dominance, and allowing them to force their proprietary standards on the internet, killing any remaining pretence of Internet freedom.

stolid_agnostic,

There were people back in the day who thought that the internet was that fancy E on the desktop (internet explorer) and would have their brains melt when trying to explain alternatives. I think that people now have this problem with a fancy G.

IDontHavePantsOn, in I wasn't in a hurry anyway

Sorry guys, I’m going to rant now.

Does no one else remember that Amazon prime was established for 2 day shipping? That was the deal. Extra money for “free” 2 day shipping. Then they added prime video. What a deal! Right?!

Then the pandemic happened. “Garble garble…SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES!”

SINCE THEN HAVE YOU RECEIVED A PACKAGE IN 2 DAYS? For many people, no. Now that the pandemic is to blame, nothing has 2 day shipping. Now many things have added shipping costs. Now prime video is the only guarantee and its one of the worst values, and worst streaming experiences of all stream providers.

Fuck Amazon. I can’t believe a class action lawsuit hasn’t been started. I’m now lucky to get any “prime” item shipped to my door in less than a week when the 2 day shipping was the entire reason for subscription.

I’m now gladly paying the Waltons because at least somebody will shop for me and drop it off at my doorstep. Amazon, in my case, has lost a ton of business. Things I would normally order from Amazon I now order from Walmart or eBay, for less money, faster shipping, and a less likely lost package situation.

Has anyone noticed that Amazon orders that have issues are now being hidden from you? Go back and find the last order they either lost or had to be refunded. It’s going to take you a bit longer because they don’t show it to you in your account. You will have to find the email with the order number to search for it.

Also remember how Amazon’s big pull before prime was their easy returns? Yeah well those times are gone. Getting a human on the phone is impossible without finding the right phone number online, and they now outsource all of their customer resources to giant call centers. You will be lucky to get a refund for an item you never received. After 3 hours on the phone I finally got them to refund and item that was at the time, 2 months late. That item was $34.

Amazon has pulled one of the biggest bait and switches of all time and I can’t believe it’s not more discussed. Garbage tier conglomerate.

barsoap,

Over here in Germany overnight shipping is pretty much the norm unless you get supremely unlucky and both source and destination addresses are in the boondonks. DHL also offers guaranteed overnight, but, as said, it’s usually not any faster especially since online retailers build their warehouses directly next to DHL hubs. So to sell prime, they started artificially delaying shipping – you can see that in tracking, they’re simply waiting until they hand stuff over to DHL, which then operates as fast as usual.

DHL is not the only shipping company in Germany, amazon has contracts with pretty much all of them, and in my case the nearest pickup location happens to be Hermes. Which Amazon apparently hates as they’re delaying packages for a good two weeks.

The result? I’m pretty much done ordering from Amazon: Other shops ship faster and aren’t more expensive. What amazon still has going for it is a ludicrously large selection so very occasionally (once in a year or so) I order there and, what do you know, they’re trying to get me with a free month of prime and actually ship on time, then.

Truly, late-stage enshittification.

rifugee,

I’m surprised that you have had bad experiences.

Evil corporation and all that and I am uncomfortable defending it, but I have had a drastically different experience.

I frequently get stuff next day or within 2 days and always get refunds without having to jump through hoops or anything and there are multiple places to choose from for dropping off a return. Also, the price is almost always cheaper or within a dollar of where I can find it elsewhere.

I’ve had some things take longer to arrive but they are clear about them not being prime and are up front about the delayed arrival time before I submit the order so I know what I’m getting into and if it’s something that I need quicker I just pick a different similar product that is prime eligible. There’s almost always an alternative that is a similar price with faster shipping. I’ve never had an order not show up either. In fact, I’ve never had to even call them or contact support at all.

It’s too consistent to be good luck. Hell, it’s so convenient that I feel guilty for buying stuff that I could get locally for a comparable price but would require me to fight traffic and stand in line to pay.

Maybe the difference is regional? Or maybe a rural area vs city thing? I don’t know. I guess the bright side for you is that you’re spreading your money around? Regardless, it sucks that you’ve had so many issues!

CoderKat,

Same here. Heck, I often even get one day free shipping, which is insane.

hinterlufer,

Yes, their service has gotten way worse over the last few years. But there’s also no obligation for you to stay subscribed to prime.

IDontHavePantsOn,

There is however an obligation for Amazon to provide the services they advertise and state in their terms of service.

hinterlufer,

Do they still advertise 2 day shipping? They stopped that around here already a few years ago.

IDontHavePantsOn,

Yes. That is still what they claim to offer. It might surprise you that Amazon does not have the consumers best interest at heart, but what will really surprise you is that I very secretly work for eBay and want to trash the impeccable reputation of Amazon.

Chr0nos1,

I actually just got something yesterday, that I had ordered the day before. I didn’t even have to pay more to get it delivered overnight. I do agree that Prime Video sucks, and I do have other issues with Amazon, but as far as shipping, the items I want are usually delivered in a couple of days.

IDontHavePantsOn,

I just made another comment about this, but the jist is that those who aren’t near distribution centers are getting screwed. They don’t give us 2 day shipping anymore.

Cornucopiaofplenty,

Sorry you’ve experienced that but I’ve had pretty consistent next-day or 2-day shipping whenever I’ve ordered anything with prime.

IDontHavePantsOn,

I know that there are many people that have not had any impact to their shipping times. Those that are near distribution centers, in cities, are not going to see the same change that I have, but Amazon has not held up their end of the bargain for many others. Amazon advertised 2 day shipping to an entire country, provided the service, and then cut the service to those who aren’t close to distribution centers and major shipping hubs. They havent lowered their prices or offered any incentives to make up for their lack of services they promised to provide.

Karyoplasma,

Honestly, I have received stuff in 2 days even without having Prime. They tell you it’s taking a week, but the package arrives much earlier. I don’t really order that much tho, so maybe I just got lucky.

MonkeMischief, (edited )

Amazon is US-based Temu at this point. Scam products, fake reviews, trash generics, non-existent service, and egregious privacy violations just using the site…

(Not to mention directly competing and undercutting their own merchants out of business with “Amazon basics” trash)

… And people are so quick to give them eyes and ears into their homes. Yeeeesh!

And it doesn’t matter what crimes they commit at this point because AWS has basically cemented them into global infrastructure. The store is an afterthought by comparison.

IDontHavePantsOn,

They created the worlds largest rug and sold us all the brooms.

BeneGesseritWitch, in Reality Shattered
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Some republicans think they are good people. There, fixed it for ya

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