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gullible, in I get it now

The werewolf I understand entirely. They’re both awkward, horny kids trying to find their place. The century old vampire creeping on a teenager is where it gets weird.

Primarily0617,

The werewolf "imprints" on Bella's unborn vampire baby later in the series, so fortunately the scales of creepiness end up balanced between Team Edward and Team Jacob.

HawlSera,

He literally falls in love with a god damn fetus

Lugh, in Reddit is dead. Long live the Fediverse.
@Lugh@futurology.today avatar

I think fediverse people are wildly overestimating how much 99% of Reddit users care about this. The mod team on r/futurology (I’m one of them) set up a fediverse site just over a month ago (here you go - futurology.today ) It’s been modestly successful so far, but the vast majority of subscribers seem to be coming from elsewhere in the fediverse, not migrants from Reddit.

This is despite the fact we’ve permanently stickied a post to the top of the sub. r/futurology has over 19 million subscribers, and yet the fediverse is only attracting a tiny trickle of them. I doubt most people on Reddit even know what the word fediverse means.

some_guy,

People who would leave a site like Reddit because of a principled stance often mistakenly believe that the rest of society cares as deeply as they. Spoiler: society mostly doesn’t care; at least, not enough to go out of their way to change anything.

Kushia,
@Kushia@lemmy.ml avatar

There are a lot of people that are actually too dumb to change platforms and assume apps like Reddit are the actual internet.

some_guy,

My father had a doctorate of engineering. He was a brilliant man. When I saw him search for Google and then follow the search link to google.com, to then search on their home page, I started to tell him he should search from the address / search field in his browser. He was instantly becoming confused and so I said, “nevermind,” because his way got him satisfactory results so why bother. Some people aren’t dumb at all. They just don’t care about the same things you or I mighty enough to learn them (beyond basics).

andrew_bidlaw,
@andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works avatar

IIRC stickies are also excluded from feed once they get this attribute.

But yeah, we don’t even understand what a barrier switching to fediverse sites is for regular joes, jemmas and jermas. Like, for many people the internet is suggested apps’ feed and, rarely, their browser’s default start page. They don’t choose anything, and why would they? And here we are, challenging them to do something on intent while they are pretty happy with what they have now.

pewnit,

I literally only switched because of Boost. Also, since Boost for Reddit still works for me, I continue to use that as well

Lugh,
@Lugh@futurology.today avatar

and why would they? … they are pretty happy with what they have now.

Exactly. Only a very small number of people are motivated as the pioneers who’ve setup the fediverse now are. Again looking at this through the lens of r/futurology & our fediverse site. Why would a user also want to go to a second version of the exact same thing, but way, way smaller.

My hunch is that long-term the fediverse will prosper. Reddit still isn’t too bad even with these changes, at least not compared to what an absolute shithole Twitter has become.

But people who care about making it bigger, should be asking themselves hard questions - this meme comes across as very complacent & out of touch, if many people really believe the sentiments it’s expressing.

Letstakealook, in A moment of appreciation for a man who is undoubtedly the world's most successful promoter of Lemmy and the fediverse

It really is funny. The only reason I went to reddit is that my phone app for news at the time (2011) took a shit and someone recommended reddit. I downloaded an app and that was the only way I interacted with reddit for over a decade. Then he killed that app and I figured if I’m going to have to adjust to a new app, I’m going elsewhere. What a dumbass.

AOCapitulator,
@AOCapitulator@hexbear.net avatar

you got your news from reddit for a decade?

Letstakealook,

You eat pieces of shit for breakfast?

LolaCat, in Don't get your hopes too high

There’s no better feeling than making a post to a dead community, and then suddenly tons of posts start flooding in lol.

yogthos, in Not sure how the girl's skin tone is relevant, but apart from that...
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

What people who lived in the Soviet union and other socialist states have to say:

This study shows that unprecedented mortality crisis struck Eastern Europe during the 1990s, causing around 7 million excess deaths. The first quantitative analysis of the association between deindustrialization and mortality in Eastern Europe.

dontcarebear,

From 1989-1998, Hungary was a failing democracy. Since 1998 it gradually became Viktor Orban’s private kingdom.

It doesn’t mean that communism is wrong (as you’ve provided multiple examples here that I haven’t checked), but in the case of Hungary I’d say it is complicated.

yogthos,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

The trajectory Hungary took after transition to capitalism mirrors what happened in most post USSR states. This just further supports the point that the communist system was better.

dontcarebear,

That is just the classic “Communism failed and the proof is the USSR!” Turned on it’s head.

This more of a Hungary problem then a capitalism problem, although I’m sure it does it’s fair share of damage.

Should they go back to communism? Maybe. I’m sure liberals, socialists and communists would all agree that kicking Orban out is a good first step.

yogthos,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

What happened in countries like Hungary and Poland is a direct result of the transition to capitalism however. What’s more this transition happened under the best possible conditions. The transition happened largely democratically without any violent revolutions, and these countries got support from the west to soften economic impact of the transition. Yet, despite all that we see that majority of post Soviet countries end up going in a similar direction under capitalism. Again, Hungary isn’t an outlier here.

dontcarebear,

Ok, so it is not nostalgia, bad management, corruption, disillusionment “of how great capitalism is”… it is only that post Soviet nations had it better during the communist era and thus are better managed as Communist nations.

Whelp, I’ll just remain a skeptic.

I wish the post Soviet nations, completely unsarcastically, good luck in the next elections or revolution. I would be happy to see the communist ideology continue to thrive in the face of capitalist debt slavery, and the contemptuous bourgeoisie.

yogthos,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

Thing is that bad management, corruption, and so on, have happened in every human society that has ever existed. A political system isn’t magically going to change that. What a political system can do however is create different selection pressures for behavior. Capitalist system selects for different kinds of behaviors than a communist one. As we see with the case of transition from communism to capitalism in eastern Europe, the selection pressures of capitalism result in far worse things happening than under communism.

dontcarebear,

Idealistically? Yes. I wholeheartedly agree. Capitalism will always encourage unfair competition, whereas socialism will strive to end it by its very definition.

I’m just still unconvinced that the post Soviet nations, as a whole, suffer the same “communism withdrawal symptom”. The systematic pressures might be so that switching to Communism now will simply fail again (and let’s not forget the dear old CIA… eh?).

Again, hope I’m wrong, but I don’t see the point you’re making as clearly as you do. I think it is a more complicated situation, but I sure do think that being more socialist wouldn’t hurt them.

And I can’t repeat this enough, remove Orban the dictator from power.

yogthos,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

Unfortunately, I expect that things are going to get worse before they get better. I don’t think people who are in power now will simply let it go the way communists did.

johnthedoe, in EVs

I tell people yes do get an EV for your next car. But also use this chance to really think about if you need the car at all. Or does every adult in the household need a car each. Our city is trash for everyone having to own a car.

Best is to run your car to the ground. Then get an EV if you must own a car.

drdalek13,

If I could guarantee that my job is remote forever, or have it written in my contract, I would sell my car.

RushingSquirrel,

Do you have access to food, stores, etc using public transport? How do you go about buying stuff and bringing it back home?

johnthedoe,

I live a short bike ride away from the shops. I have some side bags for the ebike I built so lugging groceries isn’t too much of an issue.

The biggest shift is learning you wouldn’t shop the same way you do with a car. With a car you go to a big supermarket and load up a trolley. Spend over a hundred for a week’s worth and drive home. With a bike you kinda just buy as needed for the next couple days. You do more trips throughout the week which is kinda nice too. Forces you to get out of the house more. Benefit I realised when doing this was vegetables were less likely to just die out in the fridge since I bought as needed. Which meant I spent a little less overall.

Lintson,

Unfortunately mass transit that works for everyone is the enemy of vehicle manufacturers.

Titan,

And the rich. They need to differentiate themselves somehow from the poor

django,
@django@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Optional first class for higher price could be used for this.

Titan,

That’s a good idea

Goodtoknow, in EVs
@Goodtoknow@lemmy.ca avatar

People don’t want to change the status quo or inconvenience themselves slightly in any way for the greater good. People want a magic drop in replacement that magically “fixes/solves” the environmental crisis and allows life to continue on as is. (So they don’t have to take “yucky” public transit)

What really needs to be known though is life has to somewhat drastically change so we can make the world a healthier place for generations to come in the future.

47_alpha_tango,
@47_alpha_tango@lemmy.zip avatar

So what’s the solution for people like me that live 10 miles from the closest shop, 15 miles from the kids schools and 10 miles to the closest train station and we have no bus services that serve the village?

Ataraxia,

On bike those distance are fine. Ebikes exist also. Either way I’d rather life and society adjusted itself to a slower commute than the danger and depression of car based transportation infrastructure. I used to ride my hike one hour to get groceries and an hour back. Those who are disabled can ride the bus and train. A lot of changes need to be made. Infrastructure and people need to change. I’d rather have a car free safe road for walking and riding my bike. We will all live longer to just from exercise and safer travel in general.

47_alpha_tango,
@47_alpha_tango@lemmy.zip avatar

Getting two kids 15 miles on a bike will be fun. So would getting a weeks shopping home on one.

People need cars. It’s a fact of life.

blackn1ght,

I’m convinced a lot of the fuck car people are people in their 20s with no kids who live in the city where they can heavily rely on good public transport and not have a need to travel too far.

I totally get the sentiment but it’s just not practical for a lot of us. To get people away from cars the local authority would need to practically fill the roads with small extremely regular buses that go all over the place. You’d never wait more than a couple of minutes outside your house for a bus to arrive to go somewhere.

CyberEgg,

Well either you could move to a different location if you want to, convince your community and local politicians to build better infrastructure, or realize that you are a minority, an edge case that usually is not adressed in these talks because a few people in remote locations using a car doesn’t hurt if we could get rid of car dependency in densely populated areas where the vast majority of humans live.

scrubbles,
@scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

You’re being downvoted because you’re right. I’ve had people argue that EVs still aren’t a good alternative because they may require a bit more effort every once in a while. Like, charging for 30 minutes at a charger on a long road trip vs just gassing up. Other than that they are pretty much a drop in alternative and people still balk at them.

Then trying to get them to use public transit instead? Doesn’t even matter if it’s more convenient, they’re stuck in their ways and will refuse to change ever.

Get out of your ruts people. Just because “this is the way things are” doesn’t mean it’s the best way. Ffs the amount of midwesterners who come to my city to visit and think we’re being “unsafe” by using the train, just get out of your mindsets.

Track_Shovel,
@Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net avatar

get out of your ruts

But thinking critically is hard and I’m lazy!

Colorcodedresistor,

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  • Bene7rddso,

    In some cities, e.g. Vienna, public transport already beats cars. For playing your own music I have some mid/low-range noise cancelling and can watch movies

    jubilationtcornpone, in Twitter, Reddit, Unity, Blizzard... who else?

    Zoom: “wE cAnT cOlAbOrAtE iF wErE nOt In PeRsOn. We NeEd EmPloYeEs To ReTuRn tO tHe OfFiCe.”

    They have stiff competition but this has to be one of the most incompetent boners I have ever seen pulled by a major corporation. Stating very clearly to the entire world that you have no confidence in your own product. If Eric Yuan (Zoom’s CEO) wasn’t the principle shareholder he probably would have been fired out of a cannon by now.

    db2, in How about that?
    Engywuck, in They aren't fooling around

    The photo is terrifying.

    Cleverdawny, in They aren't fooling around

    Potatoes are amazing. They grow easily in a wide variety of soil and produce food which has every nutrient we need except for a complete protein. And, they’re a vegetable, so you can tell someone you’re eating your vegetables and then go to McDonald’s for some frenchy fries

    kubica,
    @kubica@kbin.social avatar

    The frying is the questionable part. (Well, the french part too but...)

    Cleverdawny,

    Still vegetables! Everyone knows that a nice dinner at a Chinese buffet is healthy if you eat a few green beans lmao

    gravitas_deficiency,

    A succulent Chinese meal?!?

    IndiBrony,
    @IndiBrony@lemmy.world avatar

    GET YOUR HANDS OFF MY PENIS!!

    TokyoMonsterTrucker, in im not anti-science im pro diversity of ideas

    The moron who made this meme did it on a computer that requires literally thousands of innovations that are a direct, replicable product of the scientific method. It is the most powerful philosophical system on the planet, despite its sloppiest practitioners, and it doesn’t require the belief of fucking idiots to work.

    phoenixz, in Jim "Scumbag" Farley

    Salaries should by law be capped at max 10 times the lowest

    Grayox,
    @Grayox@lemmy.ml avatar

    Careful, you might be starting to make too much sense!

    GCostanzaStepOnMe, in Listen here, kulak...
    @GCostanzaStepOnMe@feddit.de avatar

    Haha, funny way to say “working in the lead mines”, comrade.

    Cleverdawny,

    Comrade, we all know lead poisoning and the need for safety gear are capitalist propaganda! Now, get back in the mines! Production must increase 50% this year, and your state-appointed union representative says it can!

    sub_ubi,

    Capital successfully fought to put lead into American’s blood and lungs for a century after it was known to be poison. To this day they’re still fighting to keep it there.

    www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/…/275169/

    www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/…/90349256/

    hoodatninja, in Why must we be done this way?
    @hoodatninja@kbin.social avatar

    I mean it kind of needs to be both. But it’s hard to find a compelling reason why kids need their smartphones fully accessible during class.

    user224,
    @user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    Well, you can quickly search up some information. I don’t remember what it was, but I remember that once in middle school teacher said something I wasn’t quite sure about, but also I wouldn’t ask if I wasn’t more sure. So I looked it up, seeing that I was right, I asked if it rather wasn’t meant to be that other thing, he checked too and indeed he was wrong.

    Also, my mind often wanders off. And it may happen that I suddenly can’t remember something. Could just be some word I could look up on my phone in less than a minute. Option B: Keep thinking about it till the rest of the class. I can’t stop thinking about that until I either remember or find it.

    Next, spine. I am currently in high school. Phones are allowed here. Any time. So, I utilized my scanner and digitized one 500 or so page book I couldn’t find on the internet, and then used it as PDF instead of a physical book. It is less likely that I would forget my phone. I wish schools would have options for e-ink tablets instead of having to carry many heavy physical books. That used to be problem mostly in elementary school and middle school. Same goes for note taking.

    Obviously, the last example can be easily solved by modernization.

    Fast talking teachers. I can’t write that fast. I mean, I can, but then I can’t decipher my handwriting, which is already hard anyway. Voice recorder is a quick solution. Obviously, it is easier to look through notes than audio, but IT IS NOT MEANT TO BE A REPLACEMENT FOR NOTES, just a help.

    But do take that with a pinch of salt. Especially in elementary school, I used to be one of those weird kids who greatly preferred being liked by the teacher over having friends. So even though I had a phone at the time, I never used it during classes because teachers disliked it.

    But at least during breaks it should be allowed. Otherwise kids will find much more dangerous ways to entertain themselves.

    Juno,

    All this is spoken like an entitled bratty immature kid. (No offense, it’s just your age and you’ll grow out of it)

    There’s a reason why you can get a ticket or be charged with distracted driving while you’re on your phone and behind the wheel of a car. IT IS A DISTRACTION. FULL STOP.

    Stop lying to yourself and to us in the process.

    user224,
    @user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar
    1. Using phone while driving is much bigger issue.
    2. This phone issue has never affected me personally. I am defending OP and others.
    3. I am not talking about using the phone all the time for some stupid thing. It gives you access to a lot of information when needed.

    Also if you trust kids with making life changing decisions, this is unfair.

    Also sorry if I sounded as you described. I only started carrying the phone with me since I was 15. I was too worried about breaking it (it’s not cheap thing). That makes finding positive points (that would apply to younger kids) a bit harder.

    Edit: Also, don’t be worried, I would almost never voice my opinions in real life.

    Juno,

    Spoken like an introverted someone who HAS ALREADY been affected socially in a negative way by their cell phone use.

    The entitled and bratty part of your comments = when people tell me not to use my phone I simply DONT use it or bring it. What’s the problem exactly? You want access to an encyclopedic knowledge in class? You don’t have a laptop or computer in the room you can use ?

    Maybe you use your phone only for the most strictly academic things, but most people don’t.

    Finally, I don’t trust kids to make life changing decisions. See all the high schoolers who got suckered into a worthless degree from the University of Phoenix. It’s very fair to take the reigns from people who can’t control themselves and their impulses.

    user224,
    @user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    Spoken like an introverted someone who HAS ALREADY been affected socially in a negative way by their cell phone use.

    Can’t disagree with this. I got a tablet when I was 8. With unrestricted access. On the positive note, it did help me learn quite a lot of stuff. Like English.

    The entitled and bratty part of your comments = when people tell me not to use my phone I simply DONT use it or bring it. What’s the problem exactly? You want access to an encyclopedic knowledge in class? You don’t have a laptop or computer in the room you can use ?

    No problem, really. If someone wanted to search up something during class, teachers could just allow it, and generally they did. Except when I was in grade 9 and the school decided to prohibit even just having them at school, as if it were grenades. Some teacher would always just collect all into a bucket and return at the end of the day.
    When we had free substituted classes, sometimes they would tell us something like “Sorry, I’d allow you phones now, but if I did I could have problems from it.” So clearly they would punish teachers for that. That’s just crazy.
    And computers aren’t in every class. Even if they are, they might not always work. Now we use our phones even to do exams sometimes. But, yeah, school isn’t even mandatory for me anymore, so it’s already different.

    Finally, I don’t trust kids to make life changing decisions. See all the high schoolers who got suckered into a worthless degree from the University of Phoenix. It’s very fair to take the reigns from people who can’t control themselves and their impulses.

    I wasn’t even talking about such late decisions. For example, when I was 10 I was given the decision between going into class A or class B since I had good enough results for A. A was class for a little more talented kids. They even had some additional subjects. Well, my dad discouraged me from going to class A. He told me “There won’t be any normal kids. I’d choose B if I were you.” So I did. I regret. I could have gotten to a better school later on.
    Some explanation of those classes:
    A - Talented
    C and D - sport classes (basketball and hockey respectively)
    B - everything else

    Next, when I was 14, I told my psychologist about my living conditions. Including photos of how our home looks like. She told me that she could call social services. Then asked me if I agreed. I was scared, so I said no. I regret, once again.

    And something that’s there always, choosing high school when you’re 15.
    I am not sure how it works across different school systems. In Slovakia, they are focused just on 1 particular field of study determining where you’ll be for the rest of your life. 3 year fields are without graduation (e.g.: various mechanics and plumbers). 4 year and 5 year fields are with graduation, meaning you can go to college/university.
    I’ve had a few classmates who only chose particular field because their friends were going there too, even though they weren’t interested in it.


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    Oof, sorry. I got too much off topic.

    hoodatninja,
    @hoodatninja@kbin.social avatar

    If you want to teach kids how to look up information, you can create spaces for that. They don’t need unrestricted access to their smart phones to accomplish that throughout the day. Hell you can relax your policies as they grow up and show the maturity to handle having a smart phone in the classroom. If schools want to do that, I am all in favor of it. But they would have to start early and build a system, which is a lot to ask of already overworked educators.

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