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superduperenigma, in HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

No need to block out the username, we know it’s powermod.

hottari, in Vaccine research vs. anti-vax research

The tags should be switched for the images. Vaccine scientists let us all down. Don’t think I’ll ever trust vaccines ever again.

PatFussy, in Dear bosses everywhere,

Is it really a hard pill to swallow though? Im pretty sure everyone except sociopaths are onboard with this line of thinking

Schnitzel_bub,
@Schnitzel_bub@lemmy.ml avatar

It is a hard thing to accept for the shitty bosses I thought.

Tbh, I also considered there’s better memes to fit the idea but I haven’t found any right away. Considering it’s had decent amount of upvotes, if you like the idea but think the format ruins it, steal my idea and put it in the better format, there’s nothing wrong with that. Just wait 1w so people won’t be annoyed by the repetition. Maybe it’ll do better with your spin on it.

grue, in HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

Moderating a subreddit is a choice, not a personal characteristic. Attempting to dilute the meaning of the word by pretending that criticism of moderators is “bigotry” is itself abusive reactionary rhetoric.

lorty, in Business is going well
@lorty@lemmy.ml avatar

Why not just use mastodon? Why is this better in any way? Twitter was already going to shit before Elon accelerated it.

rustydrd,
@rustydrd@sh.itjust.works avatar

At least in my own bubble, many did switch to Mastodon. Those that didn’t are looking at other options, because the whole federation idea and things like home instances didn’t appeal to them or were simply too complicated (they want a service that at least hides its decentralized nature).

sounddrill,

I don’t get why people dislike federation

devfuuu,

Yeah, if you don’t like it just create and account on a generic big one that let’s you access most content and just go with it. Act as if centralized. People like to create problems for no reason. If other people care about choice and the tech behind it and the new possibilities allowed, let them be happy for it.

It’s literally like email. Most people just have a gmail one and that’s most common. Others care about specific services, prices, choice, privacy features, etc, and the trch allows people to make that choice without compromising the primary purpose which is connecting people.

Everyone should have a federated account just like everyone has a email account for most things that require it. More and more places are starting to have proper integration for example commenting on blogs instead of the other stupid common alternative (discourse or wtv is the name I don’t remember).

MrScottyTay,

From an average outsider perspective is hard to know what is “the big one” in a federated system. And i think links online are what break federated systems. If you get linked to some content from another instance than your own. Then you’ve got do deal with the url bar yourself in a specific way that is never well documented (only passed around via word of mouth) so you can log in and interact with said content. A baked in “instance switch” at the top of such services that would redirect you to the same content on another instance would be the best solution but I’ve not seen anything like that yet.

devfuuu,

There are browser extensions that make sure any link opens in the user home instance. And I think there were recent improvements recently to improve the UX in those cases.

There’s always the true known universal way which is get the url and past it in the search box of the home instance. If installing a browser extension is too much for most users.

It’s obvious we are not at peak perfect UX, and work needs to be done and will be done eventually, but it’s not having to learn 2 or 3 new things that should be seen as a blocker to using it. Facebook and twitter were very intuitive at some point when nobody knew how things worked. It’s all about learning how to work with it.

eating3645,

What’s confusing about it?

rwhitisissle,

One thing genuinely confusing is having people reply to a comment I made from a federated instance, and when I try to reply to their comment, I get taken to the reply in the context of the lemmy instance they commented in, not the one I commented in. For example, if I’m on Beehaw and someone from lemmy.ca replies to my comment, and I want to respond to them, what I’ll typically do is click on the button below the comment that shows the context of the conversation, because I comment a lot and don’t always know what comment I made that someone is replying to. When I do that, it takes me to lemmy.ca, which I can’t reply from, because I’m not on lemmy.ca. This is confusing, because this routine thing pulls you into other parts of the fediverse that your reply might exist in, and which other people can see, but you can’t comment on that instance because you don’t have an account there. But if you go back to your own instance and find your comment through your profile, you can navigate to a reply someone from another instance made and reply to them as long as you’re still on your instance. This is both cumbersome and, to a new user, terribly disorienting.

sounddrill,

Check if an issue already exists, or file one

eating3645,

I meant “what’s confusing about some people disliking federation?”

And I agree with you, unnecessary complexity is one of those reasons.

dpkonofa,

There are a ton of reasons not to like it and they’re evident on Lemmy pretty notably, let alone other platforms. The entire idea of being able to defederate and federate at will is a big feature of these platforms but they’re also the part that people like the least. If the server you’re on defederates from another server you like, you have no choice but to start all the way from the beginning if you need to choose another instance to join. At the same time, each instance gets its own version of every single community. If you join an instance that federates with lots of other instances, you’re very likely to see the exact same posts multiple times since each community is completely unique and separate (again, a feature for some, a boon for others).

Federation is great for a few reasons and really horrible for others. It’s not the single answer that works for everyone.

AngryMulbear,

This is why Nostr is better in every way

dpkonofa,

Well… don’t leave us hanging. Why? “This” is not a reason.

joseangel,
@joseangel@lemmy.world avatar

Because it doesn’t come with instructions and there’s a lot of “buts”. For example, it took me a while to understand that, for example, I can’t log in “Mastodon.world” with my “Mastodon.social” account, I had to go to “Mastodon.social” to log in and THEN I can access to the content in “Mastodon.social”. Also, there’s the problem of instances blocking other instances. I would be pretty salty if I couldn’t access an account I followed, because the admins of the instance in which the account is hosted, decided to block the instance in which my account is in. That’s why the mayority of users go to the biggest instance (Lemmy.world and Mastodon.social for example), because instances blocking the biggest instance is unlikely to happen (you would block a lot of potencial users and therefore, diminished attractiveness of your instance). But everyone doing that defeats the whole point of federalization. Also, there’s the problem of defederalizing of instances. Also, the problem of safety, privacy and security. For example, a massive security fault was recently discovered in Mastodon and a server was raised by the police and all of it’s data captured by the police. In simple words, the fediverse is not the panacea it was sold like, the kinks are not ironed out.

dangblingus,

Expecting your login to work on 2 completely different domains is like… a 90s internet question.

danielton,

So… what if a news article links to a toot or Lemmy post? They’re most likely to link to the instance that the post was submitted from, and most people aren’t going to understand that they have to go search for the post from their home instance if they want to like, vote, reply, or retoot. Email made sense to people because it is basically all direct messaging, but public linking from articles and such is going to be difficult.

joseangel,
@joseangel@lemmy.world avatar

I didn’t knew that, not everyone is an expert. For example, my Google account world with “google.com” and “google.fr” with the same login info.

Mangosniper,

And what is when X decides to ban an account you are interested in? You can’t do anything against it. In your mastodon you could still read it on that instance. Or maybe there is a client where you can add two accounts and show content of both? And do you think X or Bluesky does not cooperate with law enforcement and gives data if the US government wants it?

JesusTheCarpenter, in A meme for math people

That happened

SlopppyEngineer, in Dear bosses everywhere,

It’s basic game theory and a race to the bottom. They either come together to set a bottom, do it by threat of violence or by law.

Game theory pay workers less pay workers more
Go easy on workers outcompeted outcompeted
Squeeze workers profit outcompeted
Doubledee,
@Doubledee@hexbear.net avatar

Right, people miss this but its literally one of the basic ideas of capitalist production. Mom and Pop might be nice people but the market WILL destroy them if they don’t participate in the most cutthroat practices to stay competitive. Forces are at play that supercede the morality of any actor.

D3FNC,

*myths

Schnitzel_bub,
@Schnitzel_bub@lemmy.ml avatar

Mom and Pop better hire some 7 year Olds ASAP.

Klystron, in HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

They

TheFriar,

Huh?

rustyfish,
@rustyfish@lemmy.world avatar

*Them

shunir,

*Their

interolivary, in Dear bosses everywhere,
@interolivary@beehaw.org avatar

Executives everywhere: “Why would I buy her flowers afterwards? She had it coming”

Granixo, (edited ) in PSL
@Granixo@feddit.cl avatar

But i want the Pumpkin Spice Latte! 🥺🎃☕❤️

Matomo, in HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

It’s fine to do that kind of work for free for the sake of creating and maintaining a nice community for something you enjoy. It’s like charity work.

The problem is that there’s a big company that’s profiting massively from this ‘charity work’.

Ilovethebomb,

Reddit makes something like a dollar fifty per user, per year. They’re not actually making a huge amount of money off their user base.

Comment105,

Ah yes, the best kind of charity work.

Moderating r/funny

PrunesMakeYouPoop,

Profiting?

pigup,

Burn

magnetosphere,
@magnetosphere@kbin.social avatar

Yes. When volunteers work for free to filter the content that reddit owns, reddit’s product becomes more valuable.

IzzyData,
@IzzyData@lemmy.ml avatar

Even using Reddit by commenting or creating posts is doing free work to the financial benefit of Reddit the corporation.

MBM,

Even then, doing charity work while forcing your wife to earn all the money and do all the chores around the house is questionable

Matomo,

No arguing there, the specific situation is shit either way

Zoomboingding,
@Zoomboingding@lemmy.world avatar

At the same time, this is realistically the only way to gain/maintain community for really niche topics. Unfortunately, lemmy is not a thriving place for things like nonograms, low-poly artwork, the artist C418, or Pokemon GO research/infographics.

ohlaph,

Exactly. But the moderators get a taste of that juice and suck that reddit nectar.

MufinMcFlufin,

In retrospect that reminds me of the big controversy with Minecraft back in the day when Mojang just casually revealed they owned bukkit.

Raz,

Thanks for sending me down another Internet history rabbithole :')

Omega_Haxors,

They didn’t own bukkit, they took it over and plucked it apart because it was genuinely more popular than their own hosting software.

MufinMcFlufin,

When I said “they owned bukkit” I didn’t mean they founded it, just that they were at the time of the controversy the owners of bukkit. Them taking it over isn’t mutually exclusive with owning it.

Also the controversy I was referring to was back in the peak of bukkit’s use, and they had owned it for some time before that peak. I’d wager the controversy was a much larger component of the fall of bukkit than them “plucking it apart” considering it was a product they owned and wholly benefited from it being the defacto standard at the time.

DeathsEmbrace,

You saying a for profit business cannot have volunteers because it’s akin to labor without pay? That’s anti capitalist and pro workers.

Custoslibera,

Whoa whoa whoa, let’s not get all political on the Marxist Leninist meme community.

hottari,

Why shouldn’t we? The guy raises a valid point.

WalrusDragonOnABike,

Custoslibera is joking

hottari,

Doesn’t sound like he is.

WalrusDragonOnABike,

The ironic "whoa whoa whoa" and the "Marxist Leninist meme community" are give aways that its supposed to be a joke.

hottari,

Must have missed it. TIL a Lemmy inside joke.

iegod,

There is no inside joke. It’s just sarcasm.

hottari,

An /s would have been in order.

Jaccident,

Or you could think?

WalrusDragonOnABike,

Its far older than lemmy. Idk if I've seen it on Lemmy outside this thread.

Facebones,

Whoa whoa whoa Im just here for the Reddit 2.0 fuck all this commie shit I don’t care if it was here first

EDIT: /s since the thing I replied to got taken seriously lol

Ensign_Crab, in Business is going well

So we’ve all decided to give Jack Dorsey another chance to do the same thing he did last time?

some_designer_dude,

Y’know, we — as a group — are kind of stupid.

rwhitisissle,

No, not stupid. Insane. The definition of insanity is doing the exact same fucking thing over and over again and expecting shit to change. That is crazy.

some_designer_dude,

Compromise: “Insanely stupid”.

HerrLewakaas,

What did he do last time? Never used Twitter so I have no clue what people hated about it

Ensign_Crab,

Well, refused to ban Trump for years no matter how many sitewide rules he broke, for starters.

IzzyData, in HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
@IzzyData@lemmy.ml avatar

Working for free for a large corporation is just sad. What’s even weirder is that this person acknowledges that it is basically a job, but doesn’t mind not getting paid for it. I think most people that spend ridiculous amounts of time working for a big corporation for free don’t have the understanding that it is basically a job.

I hope he seeks help of some kind.

InputZero,

Agreed, that type of person seems to me like someone who associates their job with their identity. Doesn’t help that our identities are almost exclusively linked with our occupation but anyway or that Reddit takes advantage of people who do.

kambusha,

I hear FIFA is accepting volunteers

Franzia, in Satisfying fart

I like the way you think OP

girl, in PSL

porque no los dos?

DharmaCurious,
@DharmaCurious@startrek.website avatar

Pumpkin Socialist Latte Party of Liberation

MindSkipperBro12,

Los pollos hermanos

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