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ilovesatan, in Mentally Deranged Behaviour
@ilovesatan@lemmy.world avatar

Well now I need a tool that makes graphs like this. I think I smell a winter break project coming up

MNByChoice,

Please do. I really like this chart and expect a lot more coming soon.

And no, I don’t expect to get any actual data from the chart at all.

starman2112, in GIS nerds be like
@starman2112@sh.itjust.works avatar

Bro wtf where does the river come from? I tried following it upstream on gmaps but it just stops in the middle of some field. Not even a mountain or something

Agent641,

It goes… underground!

sour, in we're still trying to figure out if they go to the same floor or not.
@sour@kbin.social avatar

how regular people see joining fediverse:

ZeroTHM,

I still don’t get it, personally. I just joined the one I’m on because it was the first one I saw I have no real understanding of what’s going on or how it’s didn’t from reddit other than one person can’t power trip on it.

TexMexBazooka,

Just more servers, owned by different people, all sharing information. That’s it.

Sotuanduso,

Think of it like different email providers. There are a few big ones, and some people host their own, but they can all (usually) communicate with each other.

ZeroTHM,

Alright, that tracks. But then how/ why do I see stuff from the other instances (I think that’s the right word)? Are they all like different subreddits?

quicksand,

That would be the different email providers in the analogy. Each instance has its own set of communities (subreddits). But if the instances are federated with yours, then you can see the communities of those other instances

jaybone,

In the email provider analogy, you have gmail, but you can receive email from gmail users and yahoo users and any other email provider users.

Engywuck, in Download the Arxiv

Well, sometimes I get to read the abstract and the conclusions. And then I get a deserved week off.

weariedfae,

Don’t forget the first thing you do!

Skim the figures.

Engywuck,

True, true.

HootinNHollerin,
@HootinNHollerin@sh.itjust.works avatar

Upper management material

BertieWooster, in Download the Arxiv

I’ve added it to zotero. I’ll read it later when I have time

sid64,

Don’t do this to me.

qooqie, in Cave Bear

How do we know it was by memory? What if the bear held that person hostage for a very flattering painting

Infynis,
@Infynis@midwest.social avatar

I’ve seen cartoons. That man and that bear were friends

jasondj, (edited )

A good theory, but sadly this drawing predates the invention of the pickinick basket by at least 10 years. At least.

FuglyDuck,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

Not nearly as dark as I was gonna go.

I assume that chonker was tasty,

LillyPip,

I immediately thought this poor artist was in the cave for days, periodically poking his head out, and the bear was still there, just waiting.

They got many close looks at that bear and had nothing to do but draw the thing that would finally kill them when they got desperate enough to make a run for it.

This painting might be like someone writing Jeff on the tile floor in their own blood. Or they became friends like in a Disney movie. I see no middle alternative.

Joking aside, that’s a phenomenal likeness.

yardy_sardley, in we're still trying to figure out if they go to the same floor or not.

If you go to P and check enough doors, you might be able to find one that proves you’ve been on NP this whole time.

driving_crooner, (edited )
@driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br avatar

I think is the other way around, we keep finding rooms on the NP floor that were actually on the P one, but we can’t prove for sure that they’re the same floor.

cybervseas,

Was that what Being John Malkovich was actually all about?

synae, in GIS nerds be like
@synae@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I heard you’re not supposed to go source-to-mouth

BananaPeal,
@BananaPeal@sh.itjust.works avatar

Sometimes, in the heart of obsession, it’s forgivable to go source to mouth.

lowleveldata,

Precisely why many do it

vonSvard, (edited )

Iz only smellz…

PoisonedPrisonPanda, (edited ) in Download the Arxiv

So many publications are not worth reading.

Im all in for a revolution of science.

No more bullshitting. No “800 words” required.

If youre able to explain something in 5 sentences and put a table and plot with the results. Do it. No need to elaborate in 5 pages how fucked up your ability is to use thesaurus for synonyms.

Edit. Usually i read the headline and put the article into my bibtex library.

jnplch,

5 pages?!??! In my discipline, we spend five pages just kissing reviewer 2’s behind and begging people to take an interest. Then we spend 20 pages citing everyone and their adviser and their adviser’s second cousin on the off chance that they’re married to reviewer 2. Then you get a copy-paste of the documentation of one of the five datasets that everyone uses.

PoisonedPrisonPanda,

Ive read about such stories. Must be awful.

Im sorry for you. That really sucks.

Engywuck, (edited )

Agreed. The worst part to write for me are always the fucking "introduction"s, explain why we did this, why it deserves your attention and a lot of addedd fluff. I did it because I wanted to. Read it if you are interested, go away if not.

Johanno,

I had this problem for my bachelor thesis. I used some other paper about machine learning and changed some parameters. Others I didn’t touch because I didn’t knew what they do. Now I have to explain why I copied those parameters. I just wrote in testing they proved to be the best.

PoisonedPrisonPanda,

Yes I totally agreee.

DudeBro, in Slap a "quantum" on it = Instant flux capacitor

“observing changes the result” doesn’t mean conciousness attempting to look at it changes the result, there is nothing special about conciousness (in quantum mechanics)

“observing changes the result” means we try to measure atoms and fields but unfortunately our measurement tools are also made out of atoms and fields which interact with the atoms and fields we are trying to measure, giving us a different result than if we don’t attempt to measure it

It does bring up interesting questions about what the “real” behavior of reality is tho, since anything we observe is technically different than what it would be if left alone. We can only ever know what a slightly altered state of reality is

morrowind,
@morrowind@lemmy.ml avatar

What if you just measure the ambient particles

Saeculum,

How?

morrowind,
@morrowind@lemmy.ml avatar

idk, I’m not a quantum physicist. I’m just asking theoretically

wopazoo, (edited )
@wopazoo@hexbear.net avatar

That doesn’t make any sense. Observation is alteration. You cannot see light without absorbing light.

maccentric,

So would a blind person would also alter the outcome if they were in the position to absorb the light? You can absorb the light without seeing it.

Krauerking,

Then you are measuring something with matter still and it then affects it. Literally causing interactions to measure means altering it’s state even at a nonchalant glance.

morrowind,
@morrowind@lemmy.ml avatar

hmm, I can get how that might cause the measured item to say, change its velocity, but not how that would cause a wave to collapse into a single point.

Umbrias,

Measuring is a loaded misnomer. Interacting with a particle changes what the particle is doing. There is no such thing as nondestructive testing in quantum physics.

Measuring just happens to be something we do a lot which necessarily causes particle interactions.

Krauerking,

Right but how do you measure the things around what you are trying to measure and get any data from it unless you expect them to also interact with the things you are measuring.

You have to have an interaction to measure even if you are measuring the outcome and steps away from the original interaction.

It’s like measuring dark matter where the easiest way to prove it’s existence was to wait and capture the decay of it but not the particle itself. But that means the particle was already gone when we got the measurements to prove it was there.

dalekcaan,

Every road leads to Plato’s cave

flan,
@flan@hexbear.net avatar

just measure everything from the same side it’ll all get shifted in the same direction

agamemnonymous,
@agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works avatar

Think of it like this:

You can use a tennis ball machine to measure how far away a house is by firing the tennis ball at a constant velocity, timing how long it takes the tennis ball to come back to you, multiplying that time by the velocity, and dividing by 2 (since you measured the distance for a round trip). This works pretty darn well for measuring the distance to houses.

But now try this same trick to measure the distance to another ball. When your measuring ball hits the ball you want to measure, it doesn’t stay resolutely planted in the ground like that nice friendly house. The energy from your measuring ball bounces the ball being measured off into the distance. Even if you could get your measuring ball to return, the ball you measured isn’t in the place you measured it.

Replace that tennis ball with a photon, and you have the basic picture. There’s no such thing as passive observation. Measuring something interacts with that thing. Conventional measurement is like in the case with the house, the thing being measured is so much bigger and more stable than the thing we’re measuring with that the effect is negligible. But once you start trying to measure something on the same scale as your measuring tool, the ensuing chaos makes it basically impossible to get useful measurements.

TopRamenBinLaden, (edited )

This analogy is really well thought out. It really helps my brain understand the weirdness that goes on with measurements on the quantum scale. Thanks for taking the time to type it out.

ProfessorOwl_PhD,
@ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net avatar

Not quite - observability in quantum mechanics is about the event producing an interaction that could potentially be measured, regardless of whether we actually attempt to measure it. By interacting with other things the superposition is collapsed and we can determine it’s current properties, but it’s still the “real” behaviour of things, because we can only determine things behaviours from their interactions with other things - not knowing what they do when left alone isn’t just about there not being a human around to interacts with them, but about there not being any other particles - no atoms, no electrons, no quarks - for them to interact with either.

PoisonedPrisonPanda, in GIS nerds be like

I like to do this for civil constructions.

You ever took a look an desert settlements?

There are so many awesome things to see there, and thinking of all the little humans doing their shit there is mesmerizing.

Kind of Sim city/sims in real life

ThatFembyWho,

Agreed, I’ve learned a lot doing this. Sometimes it leads to a story, like the ruins of a federal fire watchtower that was destroyed by arson, or discovering one of the largest fisheries in the country. I’ve also noticed a lot more houses are torn down in my city than might be expected. Whole blocks are empty fields now, or maybe have one derelict house remaining.

It’s also disturbing just how much trash people collect in their yards… and the massive wounds of foresting and strip mining.

Pantoffel,

Ugh, I was in rural china once and the uncle of my ex threw all his trash in his back yard. Disgusting. Nobody really minded though. They didn’t approve, but they didn’t confront him.

thedarkfly, in we need better hobbies

I think that was a Calvin and Hobbes joke, wasn’t it?

chatokun,

Yes, two in the same week iirc. “I’m not playing with a full deck of cards” and “I’ve lost my marbles.”

Wilzax, in Slap a "quantum" on it = Instant flux capacitor

Consciousness has nothing to do with the “observations” in quantum mechanics. The wave function collapses when we entangle ourselves with the outcome. Whether or not we actually record those “observations” is irrelevant.

niktemadur,

The term they should have used from the get-go is “measurement” instead of “observation”. Humans will always tack on mystical mumbo jumbo if given a chance, muddying up the waters for us laymen trying to learn, and “measurement” sounds much more neutral to me.

teft, in Download the Arxiv
@teft@startrek.website avatar

I read the summary of the abstract that a journalist with no science degree wrote.

Enkers, (edited )

I read abstract.


This comment has been summarized. The original (15 words) has been reduced by 80%.

This comment was made by a human, and if it was helpful please reply to it with “good human”.

teft,
@teft@startrek.website avatar

“good human”

PoisonedPrisonPanda,

Good human

paradiso, in Slap a "quantum" on it = Instant flux capacitor

I believe once we fully understand consciousness, we’ll understand the nature of reality. Of course, I could be wrong.

AeonFelis,

There is a theory which states that if ever anyone understands exactly what consciousness is for and why we have one, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable.

There is another theory which states that this has already happened.

paradiso,

I hope that’s not true. Just a constant horse and carrot.

Omega_Haxors,

We’re never going to ‘understand consciousness’ because it comes to conclusions we don’t like, so it’s in our best interests to not understand it.

DaMonsterKnees,
@DaMonsterKnees@lemmy.world avatar

It always worked out in Alpha Centauri. Boom two free techs. gg

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