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badbytes, to lemmyshitpost in This

Perfect photo summing up his presidency.

slurpeesoforion, to lemmyshitpost in This

Partially explains the smell.

ininewcrow,
@ininewcrow@lemmy.ca avatar

Also explains why he needs adult diapers.

QuaffPotions, to lemmyshitpost in This

How many burgers were served? Multiply that by a hundred to get an estimate of how many innocent cows were slaughtered for this circus. But sure, it being cheap food is the thing to complain about.

washingtonpost.com/…/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in…

psud,

I wonder how many mice died for the bun (and forests too)

QuaffPotions,

If you’re referring to crop deaths, you should know that nonsense has been so thoroughly debunked that anyone should feel embarrassed to be perpetuating that lie still.

surgeactivism.org/…/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-…

commie,

what they asked is how many died for the bun. not whether you think that line of reasoning is sufficient to discourage veganism.

QuaffPotions,

Yes, and odds are they are asking as a way to bring up the idea of how many animals are killed in order to harvest plant crops. If you had bothered to go to the link, it would have at least somewhat answered your question because the short version is: fundamentally, significantly less than the amount of animals killed to produce meat.

All it takes is to think it through. If harvesting crops kills a lot of animals (which as the link shows, is already significantly less than some assholes made it up to be), then raising animals for food automatically kills even more animals because it takes way more crops to feed the animals that are raised for meat or dairy, than it takes to just feed humans directly.

commie,

your assumption of bad faith is itself bad faith

QuaffPotions,

This isn’t formal debate school. Welcome to the real internet.

commie,

this is a thought-terminating cliche

commie,

If you had bothered to go to the link,

Ed is quoting some pretty misleading statistics to support your point. if this is the best that you have, you might want to reconsider your position.

QuaffPotions,

Would you care to elaborate on what’s misleading about these statistics?

commie, (edited )

about 85% of all soybeans are pressed for oil for human uses. but a soybean is only about 20% oil altogether. that leaves 69% of the soybeans as industrial waste. feeding that industrial waste to animals is actually conserving resources.

so it’s not even true that the land used to make food for animals isn’t used to make food for people: it’s the same land.

QuaffPotions,

That makes no sense. Every part of a soybean can be made for human uses - textured vegetable protein (tvp) is de-fatted soy, for example. 7% of soy is going for human consumption, because that’s how much demand there is for it. Just as the vast majority of soy production is being used to raise animals for food, because that’s how the economics works. You can see the cited study and more in greater detail in this article - which also shows how cattle farming is in and of itself the single largest driver of Amazon deforestation.

ourworldindata.org/soy

And this article is a primer on feed conversion ratios, which demonstrates why eating plants directly will always be fundamentally more efficient and better for the environment than raising animals for food ever can be.

pbs.org/…/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-mea…

commie,

Every part of a soybean can be made for human uses

sure, but there are not enough people who want to eat soycake for the amount of oil that we produce. so giving it to animals is as good a use as any.

QuaffPotions,

Where are you even getting this nonsense about using soybean oil waste to make feed? Where does it say that is what’s happening?

commie,

if you don’t know how the industry works, maybe you shouldn’t be the one deciding how it should be run

commie,

cattle farming is in and of itself the single largest driver of Amazon deforestation.

what does this have to do with what we are discussing, or how many mice were killed for that bun?

QuaffPotions,

Are you a human being, or a mechanistic formal debate bot? I’m informing you on a complex subject matter with many important interrelated issues that range everywhere from ethics, to personal health (yes that animal flesh is killing you), to environmental issues, and even the grave risk of pandemic potential.

Your narrowmindedness is a symptom of typical carnist mental gymnastics.

commie,

I’m informing you on a complex subject matter

no, you’re not.

commie,

the vast majority of soy production is being used to raise animals for food, because that’s how the economics works.

the vast majority of soy (85%) is pressed for oil.

commie,

ourworldindata.org/soy

i’m so glad you used this. you can find this graph there that shows that almost all the soy we feed to animals is the industrial waste from oil production

https://ourworldindata.org/images/published/Global-soy-production-to-end-use.png

commie,

If you had bothered to go to the link

like I don’t know who earthling ed is

discostjohn,

Your logic implies that a hundred cows are killed to source a single burger. That’s not how that works. Be vegan, but don’t be stupid.

archonet,

Be vegan, but don’t be stupid.

I think you found the problem there, sport.

QuaffPotions,

My math was bad admittedly - I didn’t take into account that most or all of those patties likely came from the same processing facility; so that even if 100 body parts are in one patty, 100 patties might contain the tissues of the same 100 cows that were slaughtered. In all that table might be a picture of 100, 1,000, or 10,000 body parts mutilated beyond recognition and mixed together.

My intent was not to suggest that it takes 100 cows to make one burger, that would be untrue. My intent was to point out exactly what the article was getting at, which is to recognize that when someone looks at most ground meat products, they are looking at a grotesque slurry of what used to be not just one living being, but the combined flesh of as many as a hundred or more once-living sentient beings.

discostjohn,

Yeah that’s true. Pretty horrific when you picture it.

casual_turtle_stew_enjoyer, to lemmyshitpost in This

The painting swap doesn’t add much to this, but is otherwise fitting.

runswithjedi, to lemmyshitpost in How to make fish cakes

Step 1: Have an existential crisis.

Agent641,

There are no other steps

ryan213, to lemmyshitpost in How to make fish cakes
@ryan213@lemmy.ca avatar

My friend doesn’t get it.

kusivittula, (edited )

step 1: 🙉

ILikeBoobies, to lemmyshitpost in This

People make this out to be worse than it is, it’s not a big deal and probably better for the players in the sense that it makes the event more casual

meliaesc,

They didn’t travel to the white house expecting or hoping for “casual”. They got cold fast food because the entire government had been shut down.

ILikeBoobies,

They went because they felt they had to

Anything that makes it more casual and less of an obligation is a good thing

meliaesc,

This reflects more of your opinion about obligations, or how you would feel in this situation, than anything else.

ILikeBoobies,

Lol

meliaesc,

It’s an honor to be invited to dinner with the leader of your country. When that leader can’t pay the staff to make the dinner, so he orders McDonald’s, it’s not a relief.

ILikeBoobies, (edited )

It’s not an honour, it’s work

Same as if the CEO of your company brought you out to eat

Stop idolizing people, it’s dumb

meliaesc,

You’re being honoured for your work achievements…

ILikeBoobies, (edited )

Your work pizza party is the same, it’s still just work

meliaesc,

You’re right, and I’m sure Narges Mohammadi was absolutely annoyed about her récent “pizza party”.

socsa,

Being in the same room with a fascist is never ok.

ILikeBoobies,

How is that at all relevant to what he served?

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

If I just won a national championship and was invited to the White House, I wouldn’t think, “I hope this is a casual affair.”

ILikeBoobies, (edited )

Well you probably never accomplished anything but most people, especially athletes who have had to be on a strict diet all season would rather party and just joke amongst themselves

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

So you think Trump saying, “there’s a partial government shutdown, so we can’t give you a fancy catered dinner full of the fanciest food you’re ever likely to eat in your life because it is literally made for the world’s royalty, but instead I’ve dug deep into my rich man pockets and spent $3000 on some room temperature Big Macs and Chick-Fil-A” is something that would appeal to them? Yeah, I guess you’re right. I mean it’s not like you’d want to be treated like a king after winning a national championship. Much better to have to travel to DC at the team’s expense and have the president buy them the worst possible burger he could have bought them.

But sure, it’s because I’ve never accomplished anything that I wouldn’t understand why someone would be honored to eat a Big Mac paid for out of Trump’s generous pockets when he could have had lobster flown in fresh from Maine. Or, I don’t know, catered well-made burgers from a good burger place. I’m guessing D.C. has one or two local places that might just possibly taste a little better than what they’ve got at McDonald’s.

ILikeBoobies,

Much better would be drinking all night and not going at all

how did you get “honoured to eat a burger” from “not as big a deal as people make it”

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

It’s not even that it’s a burger. It’s that he put it on display as a banquet, talked about how he paid for it personally, and he acted like they should be honored to eat the burger.

And, again, maybe it’s because I’ve “never accomplished anything” that I would hope that the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES would spring for more than a cold Big Mac after inviting me to the WHITE HOUSE.

I’d do what I could to offer those guys more than a cold Big Mac if I invited them to my house and I’m by no means someone who brags about his fabulous wealth.

I think they deserved to be treated better regardless of you think what they would have wanted because of all of your amazing accomplishments. I’m sorry, but your Nobel Prize doesn’t mean they aren’t entitled to be treated with at least the modicum of dignity as a visiting head of state.

I mean at the absolute very least keep them warm instead of taking them all out for a photo op where they’ll get cold! Is that making too big a deal out of it? Saying they were entitled to a warm Big Mac when visiting the President of the United States at the White House who brags to you about paying for it with his own money?

ILikeBoobies,

I thought by now you would have deleted this since it illustrates how people blow it way out of proportion

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Yes, expecting someone to get warm food when they get invited to the White House is an embarrassing position and I don’t know why I haven’t deleted it yet. Maybe it’s my lack of accomplishments.

thawed_caveman, to lemmyshitpost in This

I’m gonna be 100% honest here. I would do this if i were president.

sebinspace,

There is a mountain of reasons to bash this dipshit. This… this was genius.

Now if you’ll excuse me, that pile of Wendy’s on the left is calling my name…

Coreidan,

What’s that? Serve a bunch of cold mediocre food? Yum!

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

It was a dick move like everything else. He hosted the national college football champs during a partial government shutdown, but rather than pay for some nice food from a third party for those champs, he figured that just being in his presence was reward enough, so enjoy your shitty fast food, boys.

In an explanation for the evening’s menu, White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders tweeted, “The Democrats’ refusal to compromise on border security and reopen the government didn’t stop President Trump from hosting national champion @ClemsonFB tonight. He personally paid for the event to be catered by some of America’s great fast food joints.”

Though he told reporters that he had personally bought “300 hamburgers,” in a tweet the next morning that number had skyrocketed to “1000 hamberders [sic].” (Photos and videos of the scene show that the lower number is likely the more correct one.)

vox.com/…/trump-clemson-mcdonalds-burger-king-wen…

“1000 hamberders” would have cost him what, $3000 at most? When he flaunts how rich he is constantly? And then brags about it?

Dick move.

fne8w2ah, (edited )

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/6736ee2d-7544-43c2-81e5-f9e83fa7d480.jpeg

NGL I would absolutely love to sample a bit of every “hamberder” TBH.

possiblylinux127, (edited ) to memes in I remember

Life was different back then.

MrJameGumb, to lemmyshitpost in How to make fish cakes
@MrJameGumb@lemmy.world avatar

This is how one makes fish cakes

ch00f, to memes in I remember

Funny. I’m surprised this is Beat Buy. We didn’t get those until like 2002. It would have been CompUSA for me.

Kolanaki, to memes in I remember
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

I left mine in and I was very disappointed by lack of total infrastructure and societal collapse.

Geert,
@Geert@lemmy.world avatar

Fingers crossed for Y3K 🤞🏻

raoul,
@raoul@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Or 2038🙏

andthenthreemore,

It’s because world governments and companies spent a shit load of time and money changing things so it didn’t become an issue. People point to it as a load of fuss over nothing, the only reason for that was that action was actually taken.

ooterness,

On that note, there will be a similar problem in 2038. It’s just like Y2K but harder to explain, which means management won’t understand, so it won’t get fixed.

pewgar_seemsimandroid,

unix time is 32 bit basically

recapitated, (edited ) to memes in I remember

When I heard about the Y2K panic in the mid 90s the very first thing I did (as a kid) was advance my clock to 12/31/1999 to see what would happen next.

IIRC when the date changed, it went back to some date in the 1980s I think. This was either windows 95 or 98, I can’t remember.

Anyway that advice to turn your computer off… What the heck? Then what, throw it away?

MacNCheezus,
@MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

Nothing, really. The worst that could have happened to personal computers was that they’d show a wrong date. What people were really worried about was how computers responsible for critical infrastructure would handle it.

BradleyUffner, (edited )

We told people to turn them off because it was just easier than trying to explain to them that they might have to restart individual programs if they bugged out. It was a simple way for people that didn’t understand computers to get everything back into a known state.

IE “have you tried turning it off and on again?”

Oha, to memes in I remember

Got the more modern one on my laptop
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jodanlime,
@jodanlime@midwest.social avatar

I want one

KSPAtlas, to lemmyshitpost in How to make fish cakes
@KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz avatar

Damn someone else who follows this bot? Cool

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