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SVcross, to memes in So that's it, huh? We're some kind of Suicide Squad?
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God, the first season of Revenge was so good. Quite a nosedive after season 2.

henfredemars, (edited ) to aww in Staying in an Airbnb with *very* judgemental neighbours

“Ugh… another one of them tourists driving down my property values.”

cottonmon, to memes in I should figure out how myself
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Ubisoft seems like one of the shittiest game companies. They were one of the earliest companies that implemented Always-on DRM, requiring an app to open chests, trying to put ads when you paused the game, refusing to put games on Steam because they want more money, sexual assault/harassment allegations etc.

example,

requiring an app to open chests? what?

I’m glad I’ve been avoiding Ubisoft like the plague they are for all the other issues already.

cottonmon,
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Yeah, in Assassin’s Creed Unity.

ToxicWaste,

I am glad i stopped playing after black flag. Now i remember assassin’s creed as a cool series.

PixellatedDave,

Yeah last ubi game I played was the original ac and I haven’t touched them since.

XTornado, (edited )

It was some special kind of exclusive bonus chest thingy, it wasn’t as bad as he points it, it was like a bonus thingy you could ignore them. I honestly didn’t care for it at all.

I think it was similar to the mini game ships thing on Black Flag, but on your phone and sending assassins instead of ships and maybe solving some puzzles, can’t remember.

It made more sense as a phone app, because it was like on Black Flag you sent stuff and that would take x time and then you would get the results, so in a phone you would easily check the progress and maybe get a notification, instead of having to enter the game to check just that.

EDIT: It seems Black Flag also used an app, I played later and now it’s a thing in-game I guessed that was the original version honestly.

haui_lemmy,

I really feel like I need to learn what games are typically theirs and just evade them as well. Disgusting.

yamanii,
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Oh man, is that the companion app for black flag? I remember not being able to earn off game because you had to use it to command expeditions.

cottonmon,
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Ah, I was talking about Unity which had some chests that you could only open with an app.

XTornado,

It was basically similar, but sending assassin’s instead of ships. And maybe some puzzles, can’t remember.

XTornado, (edited )

Oh wait that was an app as well? Oh I didn’t know that I just have played recently and the sending ships thingy is in-game now.

yamanii,
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Guess I gotta replay it now.

rwhitisissle, to memes in I should figure out how myself

Eh, not really. Always Online DRM is going to be even more of a thing in the future than it is now. It’ll be so baked into the application that any attempt at patching it will take so long that it’ll exceed the normal lifetime of the game itself.

yamanii,
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This denuvo is already taking almost a year per game, and several are using it.

Kolanaki, to lemmyshitpost in Kid is doomed
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Consensual non-consent via mice controlling your bodies while fucking, so you’re not really in control over a damn thing.

niktemadur, to lemmyshitpost in Kid is doomed

Half a century on, we’ve come full circle.

AgentGrimstone, to memes in So that's it, huh? We're some kind of Suicide Squad?

Almost every Netflix movie. Disappointed almost every time.

buzz86us, to memes in So that's it, huh? We're some kind of Suicide Squad?

Sliders… Had two great seasons then they started chasing trends and it jumped off a cliff.

iAvicenna, to memes in I should figure out how myself
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is the image a screenshot from a game?

ILikeBoobies, (edited )

One Piece anime I think

But it sucks they cut the quote to make it sound like Ubisoft is telling people to stop wanting to own games (which gamers are, look at Steam’s and gamepass’s popularity)

The quote should say subscriptions like EA Play, Ubisoft +, and Gamepass will only be successful if people are comfortable not owning games

MonkeMischief, to memes in Gotta keep everyone updated

“Now, all of China knows you’re here!”

Really_long_toes, to memes in I should figure out how myself

I say ubisoft can live without my munee

Gigan, to memes in It's just a coffee
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“You will own nothing and you will be happy” - Some rich fuck

FierroGamer,
JJROKCZ,

Ubisoft should get comfortable with the idea of going out of business. I refuse to buy anything of theirs or interact with their shit launcher. Bad practices and bad products combined mean bankruptcy and i hope it happens soon so decent companies can get ahold of their IPs and make some good games out of them because Ubisoft is clearly not interested in doing so

FishFace,

Misinformation. An article not as blatantly trying to manipulate people: ign.com/…/ubisoft-exec-says-gamers-need-to-get-co…

Daveyborn,
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Its wild the difference 5 words make for a headline

Sanctus,
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It doesn’t make a difference. He still wants you to get comfortable with that. It doesn’t matter how he dresses up his sentences his thought process is the same, thats how he got to CEO.

FishFace,

The point of the dishonest article is to make you believe the CEO feels entitled to gamers becoming OK with subscription models. What he actually feels is a hope that subscription models will take off. It’s rage-bait. Did it work?

grue,

…you believe the CEO feels entitled to gamers becoming OK with subscription models. What he actually feels is a hope that subscription models will take off

That sounds like a distinction without a difference to me.

FierroGamer,

As I said, I didn’t read that one, but I feel like it did do something to you so probably yes.

WillBalls,

But he’s not CEO. He’s the director of subscriptions at ubi, so of course he’s going to push this line of thinking; his job depends on it!

The good news is that Ubisoft’s stock fell ~10% once this soundbite took off, so hopefully other publishers read the room

FierroGamer,

Thanks, I just linked the first article I found assuming it would be enough to get the point across, did it say something incorrect?

deweydecibel, (edited )

People keep pointing this out like it’s some kind of misinformation.

The Ubisoft executive is saying gamers need to get comfortable not owning their games before subscription services will take off.

The Ubisoft executive would also very much like subscription services to take off.

QED the Ubisoft executive is saying “I’d really like gamers to get used to idea of not owning their games so our subscription service can take off”.

It comes back to the same thing: Ubisoft is saying aloud what they want the future of gaming to be.

And please don’t tell me you’re giving them the benefit of the doubt, here.

The problem is people apparently haven’t figured out yet how to read what the CEO of a for-profit company means when they say shit publicly about their services. Learn to read between the lines.

FishFace,

There’s a mile of difference between saying “consumers need to get comfortable not owning their games” and “we want consumers to get comfortable not owning their games (but using subscription services instead)”.

The former statement is extremely arrogant. The latter is just obvious. And it’s reasonable even if you or I personally don’t want to get our games on a subscription model - millions of people get their music through Spotify and it suits them just fine even though other people don’t want that. So it’s a way of straw-manning the people pushing subscriptions so you can hate them.

leave_it_blank,

So you only buy a license? Like on Steam, Epic, and all the others? Shocking.

I think modern gamers are comfortable with this, they just haven’t realised it yet.

Or they buy on gog. Then they really have ownership.

anarchy79,
@anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

Oh they expanded that? I remember when it was just “You will own nothing”.

qaz, (edited )

The saying comes from an opinion piece that was sponsored by the WEF. You can read more about it on the Wikipedia page. The article presented a future where the climate problem was fixed because the entire economy was based on services instead of the production of goods. It certainly has some elements that could work, but also has relied heavily on the neoliberal “the market will fix it” mentality.

sbv,

Are streaming services that different from cable TV? You’re paying for access to new content. If you want specific content to own, don’t they all let you buy them? I know I was able to buy GoT discs when I wasn’t willing to pay for an HBO subscription. Has that changed?

JJROKCZ,

Difference is that most games made anymore are online access dependent even if they aren’t dedicated multiplayer only games. What happens when subscriptions get so low that upkeep is unprofitable? You lose access to a game that you’ve paid a lot of money for, for no good reason as online isn’t necessary but the studios rarely patch it out at game sunset

echo64,

yup, the very popular stuff you can usually (but not always) buy on disk. the less popular stuff you can sometimes (but not often) buy on disk if the creator really pushes for it

UltraMagnus0001,

The HP guy said it out loud about their printers

ByGourou, to memes in I should figure out how myself

He said that for subscriptions to be more popular, people need to be “more comfortable with not owning their games”. People always forget the first part, if you take the whole quote, he’s right.
He didn’t say he wanted that to happen. But he probably do, so fuck Ubisoft and him.
I just don’t like how the whole internet built a narrative around an out of context quote.

sbv, to memes in It's just a coffee

I get that services need to pay for staff/servers/production, so I’m fine with small monthly fees. I’d much rather pay than sit through ads.

Once a subscription creeps over six or seven bucks a month I’m gonna reevaluate it and start cutting.

It really annoys me that newspapers charge the same for digital and paper subscriptions.

SexyTimeSasquatch,

You’re paying for the content in the case of the newspapers. It is a similar cost to print on newsprint as to run a website. It saves them no money. Most of what you are paying for is for the journalism, writing, editing, etc. Content costs money.

li10,

Exactly. The reason I cancel my subscriptions is because there’s been a nosedive in content that I enjoy, which has tipped the scales to it costing more than it’s worth to me.

I’ve moved to a Plex setup, but even then I don’t watch many shows at all. The ones I do watch are all on different platforms though, so it would be X many subscriptions just to watch the few shows I like.

sbv, (edited )

That’s counterintuitive, do you have a source for that?

EDIT: googling around, I don’t see any obvious answers.

anarchy79,
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That definitely depends on which news outlet we’re talking about.

skizzles,

This is the point here.

Many people have no idea of the infrastructure and costs needed to run many of these servers that provide services to people.

I disagree with things like Adobe basically using it for DRM but have no issue for services that are literally serving millions of people and providing something worthwhile that the majority of the population would otherwise not know how to do on their own.

There is some nuance to it, like offering a service and then slowly creeping costs up or adding an advertisement tier and dropping everyone to that etc is crap. But in general, if they are providing a decent service then I don’t really have a problem with it.

JJROKCZ,

I agree that ongoing infrastructure costs money, but several years of that should be included in the original estimate and pricing for the sale of the product. Plan for the sale price being cost to make+5 years of estimated maintenance for base product+profit margin. Then extend maintenance with each DLC if any. If no dlc then offer subscription to pay for servers and other infrastructure, if subscriptions fail to cover that then sunset the product but open source the server infrastructure so the community can pay to run it if desired.

Iron_Lynx, to memes in It's just a coffee

I like to apply some business logic to it.

  • I expect to use the product or functionality provided by x on a regular basis
  • The use of x has no added utility
  • The functionality and/or feature set (e.g. content) of x may degrade significantly without warning and/or recourse
  • Unavailability of x is likely to render it completely useless

If most of these conditions can be regularly sufficiently true, then searching an alternative that incorporates proper ownership is a good course of action.

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