Pipes is a great way to view YT content without logging in. No ads, clean interface, and you can log in to save playlists via cookies on your local machine, so no interaction with the server. It doesn’t use the YouTube API, so Google can’t say much.
The algorithm is clever enough to know that people that watch a few of those videos are likely to watch a whole lot more. So it’s good business to recommend them as often as possible. If they CAN convince you to dive into that, the stats are that you will start to watch a ton more YouTube content.
Not necessarily.
A few years ago, when there was another Reddit Exodus people were suggesting to go to voat. But holy hell was that place toxic.
And tbh, maybe I just picked the wrong instance to sign up on, but right now, I feel like lemmy is more toxic than Reddit, too, despite still being a fraction of the size.
And people say to just not care about it. But it kinda does matter. Bullying and brigading can create an in-group and the rest. To the point that you can sway public opinion, even elections. tl;dr: OP makes a valid point
You think Lemmy is more toxic than reddit? I’ve seen the opposite so far. I wonder if this boils down to what communities we are a part of? It makes sense though, since most of lemmy is likely 30+ yrs old and have become jaded by reddit already.
Also, yes, voat was awful. It was mostly alt right assholes from what I remember.
the development on voat was incredible. once the hoards moved it went off a cliff within hours or a day or two.
I am fairly sure it is because of the instance I picked. when I click on Local instead of Subscribed my mood goes down. once in a while there is some spillover, and it seems to be following quite specific topics. So either I am out of touch with today’s youth (if the crowd on my home instance is representative), or there is a bias of the active users there and they are hungry for those topics.
I’m delivering papers, wee hours in the morning, middle of winter. Just had a storm recently, so roads were rather icy. Go to cross the street when my dog starts acting all weird, won’t let me cross. Just as I’m getting frustrated, suddenly a pickup truck comes barreling around the corner. Driver immediately loses control on the ice, truck goes into a sideways slide at a pretty high speed.
Microsoft currently lack the internal know how on AI. It is behind. They are the best understanding the average user/company needs, but they currently depend on openai. Either the buy openai (risking to destroy it because Microsoft is relatively bad at real research and cutting edge engineering) or they need to invest a lot more than Google.
If you read the memo, the 3rd player is meta. Microsoft is not even considered.
Microsoft will for sure make more money than anyone else, because that’s their job, making more money than anyone. They are a bad tech company, but a great money printer company
I don’t think it’s the format. Forums generally get toxic when they’re too big. The negative influence of a toxic user is much greater than the positive influence of a non-toxic user. The bigger the user base the more toxic users. Eventually it gets to a critical mass where you’re seeing enough toxic replies to make the whole platform seem toxic.
Reddit is 18 years old. Lots of time to attract toxic users. I wasn’t on Reddit from the start, but people have said Reddit didn’t suffer toxicity until after it was around 10 years old. Lemmy is four years old now so it will be a while. Though Lemmy may attract a smaller less toxic crowd and avoid toxicity indefinitely.
I don’t have a high opinion of community at Stack Overflow as it started out elitist by nature of its policies and rules. Yeah that’s going to breed toxicity right out of the gate. I have to admit Stack Overflow has been a really good resource for technical information at times, but its community is harsh. As much as I’ve used it to find good technical information, I’ve never made an account there or had any desire to post there.
That’s a good point about toxic users having a bigger influence than non-toxic users.
It’s easy to see a comment that you mostly agree with and just not upvote it. But seeing a comment that’s factually incorrect or toxic will both welcome downvotes.
Current implementation seems to focus on administrative domains for control, like email servers with individual policies and reputations. What if we look at this the other way?
People have different value systems. Are you ok with promotion for monetary gain? (No never / only individual contributors promoting themselves / only small businesses and below / yes) Are you annoyed by $controversial_topic? Do you dislike when bored people make a conversation game out of someone else’s need for obscure technical help?
The details can be decided later by people smarter than me. The point, though, is that these value systems aren’t universal. Users should decide their own.
Meta interactions (up down report friend block) should be aligned to these values. My client would gather meta-mod data as well as votes/comments. I could easily configure my client to hide things, or group similar distractions together and show/hide them all together. Your client could work differently.
I have no idea how we would possibly implement this with federation. Civically minded users create a meta-moderation identity with a PGP key, sign and publish their decisions, and let people choose to trust them based on past behavior?
Probably still flawed, susceptible to karma farming and cashing out. If well known mods start betraying their users, the bad activities are signed and can be used as proof they can no longer be trusted, though it could take days to get people to stop trusting someone.
Even the whole value system idea can be subverted. Dog whistles, toxic in-jokes, things which are offensive in context but seem fine judged later out of context, etc.
But I want this for us all. (And I vaguely remember seeing something similar on slashdot in the 90s) I have no idea if Lemmy can even support it though.
I would say PeerTube looks like the best alternative to YouTube. I haven’t explored it personally but it is on my to-do list along with standing up a Friendica instance. I’ve been off of Facebook since 2017. I’ve been off of Twitter since November of 2022.
Recently whenever I decide not to do something and make an excuse to myself or to others, something bad happens to me. Example, kids wanted to stay out I wanted to go home, just before my house which is in the middle of nowhere there was a traffic cop who busted me for speeding.
The algorithm wants engagement first and foremost (positive vs negative is irrelevant), after that it wants to push view points that preserve the status quo since change is scary to shareholders. So of course capitalist/fascist propaganda is preferred especially if the host is wrong about basic facts (being wrong drives engagement.)
Fix the input not the algorithm - either disable watch history, or clear it of anyone who you don’t trust their viewers to recommend positive channels.
If you watch something that turns out to worsen your experience, purge it from the view history, undo any likes and remove any comments.
My “YT™ experience” has gotten a lot better ever since I started avoiding it altogether and opted to watch videos through an alternative frontend. I do get a fairly different “popular” feed, but I mostly ignore that and go directly to my subscriptions feed instead.
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