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Sky_Lobster, in I might move again. (Or not)

Honest question… What’s the difference? I just signed up with .world without really doing much looking around first…

MentalEdge,
@MentalEdge@lemmy.world avatar

Some instances are running on better servers than others, have staff that fix issues quicker and attend to updates sooner.

For example, .world is still on v18 while the rest of the threadiverse has mostly moved on to v19.

Some instances defederate certain other instances, so in some cases you might end up finding that a community you subbed to gets disappeared by the admins of your instance (lemmy.ml did this to ani.social a while back). Whether there are valid reasons goes case by case, sopuli.xyz for example blocks instances that are for porn, and I like it that way.

Though outward federation is a bit borked on there atm, so I’m using my alts…

But really, it doesn’t matter that much. If the grass looks greener, you can hop over the fence and see for yourself, and then hop right back if it turns out it wasn’t.

fmstrat,

While I’m not on world, I also hold off on upgrades. Lemmy is still Alpha, after all.

Octopus1348, (edited )
@Octopus1348@lemy.lol avatar

I only moved from World because I wanted a smaller instance (and maybe because of stability). And from thelemmy.club because it blocked the Hackintosh community. And from lemmy.ml, which was my first one I moved because I heard the alligations that the admin was pro-chinese government.

GrammatonCleric,
@GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world avatar

“Allegations”. Nice.

fmstrat,

Moderation and politics. Many in Lemmy don’t like ML’s stance on issues, including banning and moderating dissenting opinions. World won’t defederate from Threads. Etc. Despite no major user difference, Lemmy is a much more “active” vs passive community in reinforcing their beliefs in what’s right. It’s why many migrated here to begin with.

TserriednichThe4th,

Threads?

CyberEgg, (edited )

Meta’s/Zuckerberg’s microblogging service, also runs on Activity Pub (the protocol that allows instances of any given service to communicate with each other, basically the backbone protocol of the Fediverse).
Many Fediverse instances decided to defederate Threads because of who’s behind it and because they’re afraid Meta’s ging to do to AP what Google did to XMPP.

fmstrat,

To add: and because they don’t want the content they create to become a money maker for a company that allows abusive organizations to stay online.

wren, in venture capitalism goes brrr
@wren@sopuli.xyz avatar

This is why everyone should disable auto updates

Granted, apps can lock you out if you don’t have a certain version, but by and large, you should be able to choose to update when there’s this drastic of a change

HeyLow,

It’s web based, so the UI updated on older versions of the app too. I had to downgrade to 126.21 to avoid this shit ui

wren,
@wren@sopuli.xyz avatar

Mines on 195.0 (iOS, idk if android has a different version build) and I’m still on the older ui. Wonder where the threshold is.

A_Very_Big_Fan, in Both beliefs are fine, but please realize the hypocrisy

I’ve literally never met someone who claimed we actually live in a simulation though

darcy,
@darcy@sh.itjust.works avatar

yeah its a strawman (checkmate athiest)

RickyRigatoni,
@RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml avatar

I cast ignite.

Scrappy,

I cast manual breathing

ramius345,

I cast testicular torsion!

DanVctr, (edited )

Strawman rolled a nat 20 on its DEX save, takes no damage sorry

stoned_ape,

Natural 20s don’t matter except on attack rolls RAW

RickyRigatoni,
@RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml avatar

I light our table on fire I hate this DM

Omega_Haxors,

You have a level of happiness most of us can only briefly imagine as being possible.

Russellbush,

I saw a theory by some physicists that there is some evidence we may be a hologram but I’m not smart enough to understand exactly what that means. Sounds neat

Caboose12000,

I’m also not smart enough to understand it completely but I think they meant something strange could be happening with dimensions (think Flatlanders) rather than us being a computer program. anyone with more understanding please elaborate tho

Natanael,

There’s an argument that because some of the physical limits we see around entropy density (due to singularities) are proportional to the area of a sphere around the volume, together with math indicating it’s possible to translate physics in a 3D volume to a 2D surface, the whole universe might be a projection from the 2D surface of a sphere

Dutczar,
@Dutczar@sopuli.xyz avatar

It’s a hell of coincidence that this is the second time I heard of this, the first being 2 days ago in a video game. Said video game is full of crackpot conspiracies though.

naevaTheRat,

Yeah that doesn’t mean we’re running on an alien projector. Science communication of theoretical physics is horrible.

Anytime you find yourself getting excited about some galaxy brain SciFi stuff just clap out some chalk board erasers and inhale the dust. That’s about how pleasant and exciting theoretical physics is (and how worth doing, fight me you keyboard tapping nerds) and it should help you get in the mood for appreciating findings.

User_4272894,

Musk said it in Rogan a few weeks ago, and it became a justified belief overnight. It had huge flaws in logic when he said it, and no one who is parroting the talking point today is thinking beyond “the real life Ironman says we live in the matrix”.

DriftinGrifter,

If you take your opinion from either of those sources I really can’t help you they aren’t representative of what the majority or anyone worth their shit thinks

K0W4LSK1,
@K0W4LSK1@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Pretty sure simulation theory has been around since the late 80s. Just got in the main media zeitgeist anymore like when matrix came out so Elon just revived it in mainstream media

Cannacheques,

Sounds like someone saw the devil in a screen during a brief but short psychosis and then extended this idea into his own depersonalisation/derealization experience of his whole life

Yeah not the first to think something like that, kind of like people once thought their whole lives were a dream lol

User_4272894,

I mean, Descartes had brain in a vat theories well before the 1980s, and Plato’s allegory of the cave is fundamentally the same. My position was that “the reason we’re talking about it again all of a sudden is because one idiot got on the podcast of another idiot and poorly explained it to the throngs of their uncritical fans”.

anticommon,

The whole simulation theory stems from observations about how fast technology is advancing as a whole, and kind of plays hand in hand with the fermi paradox. Either we are a special advanced civilisation that will continue to advance until we could in theory simulate an entire species/planet/civilisation or whatever or we are doomed to die out before we can advance enough to achieve either that goal or potentially other goals such as building replicating space exploration technology that might be capable of exploring/consuming/adulterating part of the galaxy or even the galaxy as a whole.

Both theories are basically an extrapolation of our current technological progression with some large assumptions made about the way things in this universe operate as a whole. I don’t think they are particularly far fetched, but I also don’t really see much evidence to support either being a possibility, except maybe the whole we are fucking up our ecosystem and heading towards some type of collapse before we get too advanced parts of the fermi paradox.

Another theory that I’ve heard which is really just a statistics thing is that it’s most likely that we are an average civilisation that lasts an average amount of time in an average part of the galaxy and that it’s likely we are right about in the middle of the total number of humans that has or will ever exist (about 100 billion came before us, probably another 100 billion to go) which could be a couple centuries or millenia left of human reign over planet Earth.

All being said, it’s pretty likely that since the future hasn’t happened yet we just won’t know how it all turns out until it does. We’re all just as uncertain as anybody else, and whoever preaches the gospel of kingdom come is just as ignorant as you and I.

Cannacheques,

Meh, when we find big space monoliths or mega structures in the asteroid belts we’ll probably feel a lot less special

itsgroundhogdayagain, in Billionaire has never heard of the Streisand effect.

This guy hacks

gedaliyah,
@gedaliyah@lemmy.world avatar

Allegedly.

Phew, I just saved you from a petty lawsuit.

Custoslibera,

I don’t use the word hero very often, but you, are the greatest hero in American history.

Sorgan71, in Neoliberals

there is if its regulated

explodicle,

Same old capitalism, but with regulatory capture.

Sorgan71,

Yes, but capitalism with regulations is the best for everyone.

explodicle,

Even going back to tribes would be better because capitalism is literally destroying the world. Socialism (not social democracy) would be better for 99% of people.

andrew_bidlaw, in Billionaire has never heard of the Streisand effect.
@andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works avatar

Let’s remember that folks: Rajat Khare, the co-founder of Appin, has zero, no connection with hackers-for-hire markets and he hired people to erase his name from several articles around the globe to be not associated with it in any way.

gedaliyah,
@gedaliyah@lemmy.world avatar

Zero. Probably even less.

andrew_bidlaw, (edited )
@andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works avatar

BREAKING: Rajat Khare, the co-founder of Appin, achieved negative connection to hackers-for-hire markets. His vast philantropy project called ‘DONT’ now pays every person in the world a cent a day for them not to do any hacks, even ethical ones. A quickly mounting price that would amount to $160 mil by tomorrow and $400 mil by the end of the week doesn’t scare the billionaire. In an exclusive interview with The Reporter, he said, quote: ‘Honestly, I hate money. Just yesterday I was hungry late at night and I tried to eat a bar of gold, thinking it may be a chocolate one. Nah. Fucking gold. For the sake of my own dental health, I though, let’s just get rid of these’. Although one cent is not enough to thrive even in the poorest states, that’s the first experiment in a worldwide UBI. When asked directly, if he’s secretly a left-leaner, Rajat was rendered inaccessible due to repeatedly picking dollar bills out of his safe and burning them with a weird fascination.

A promise of a better future, or a scam to buy payment data from everyone? Watch our guest experts at The Reporter at nine!

phoenixz, in Both beliefs are fine, but please realize the hypocrisy

Could (a) god(s) exist? Possibly, it’s hard to rule out the supernatural in natural terms since it’s SUPERnatural

Could the universe be a simulation? Possible too, but also on of those things that’s almost impossible to prove.

At the same time, it could be that your e a Boltzmann brain, and that literally nothing existed before and that your brain just kinda formed together spontaneously with all your memories.

All those are possible options that are over 99% likely to be false, but their cooouuullldd be true.

Point is not to rearrange your life on the off changlce that one of those are true. Especially religion, since religions tend to be “believe our particular god(s) or you go to hell for eternity” followed closely by “if you don’t believe our particular god(s) we will help you go to hell right now”. Nearly all human conflicts in Earth’s history were either based on religion or used religion as a tool to whip up the masses to go kill the others.

There are also hundreds of Gods and over 3000 different religious figures out there and they’re all pretty much exclusive or, they all claim to be the right one and the rest is wrong. Bold claim to make when it’s all based off goat herders texts that were first abused for a completely different god (hello, Christianity!) and constantly conflicts with each other.

Simulation theory and Boltzman brain ideas are fun to entertain and talk and think about, but they’ve never been used to control who can love and have sex with who, they’ve never been a used whereas religion just IS abuse and control in every way possible.

I do not like religion

ADTJ,

Agree with most of what you said except the “over 99% likely to be false”.

Like you mentioned it’s not possible to prove either way so it isn’t meaningful to describe it as likely or unlikely. We have no way of knowing (at least currently) so the likelihood is simply undefined

stonedemoman, (edited )

Eh, we can prove that human DNA is 99% primate and that there was no great flood. Seems unlikely to me.

ADTJ,

It sounds like you’re referring specifically to Christian theology but the comment was just about whether a god or gods exist in general

stonedemoman,

The mere fact that humans are 1% removed from apes serves to undermine creationism in general.

ADTJ,

We’re not talking about creationism or any particular brand of theism

stonedemoman,

Considering that the overwhelming majority of religions out there are creationists, yes we are.

ADTJ, (edited )

I understand your point and I feel like maybe I’m sounding a little argumentative. Sorry let me try to be more clear.

I understand your argument is that genetic evidence disproves existing religious beliefs that people have but that’s a different argument to the point I was making.

Even if all global religions are incorrect, that doesn’t mean that a god or gods couldn’t hypothetically exist and my point is that there is no demonstrative proof of that either way.

If you check the original comment again, the question was about whether “a god(s) exist” and up until they mentioned the 99% that I was disputing, religion didn’t even come into it.

You could disprove every creationist claim, every anti-evolution argument, and you’d be right, but you can’t settle the question of “whether a supernatural being exists” because there simply isn’t a way to do that within the natural realm that we know of.

It isn’t just about God either. The simulation and Boltzmann brain hypotheses are similarly immeasurable

stonedemoman, (edited )

They aren’t immeasurable. The reason you think I’m making a different argument to your point is that you’re asking for every negative proof. This is never going to provide an answer, as it would be a competition to dispel the imagination.

Hypotheses and positive proofs are slowly answering the question of why we’re here. We know that evolution is likely, DNA is irrefutable evidence. We know that it’s likely our known universe began with a singularity because of the background microwave radiation accelerating away from a point of origin. We know the field and corresponding particle that gave matter its properties from the particle acceleration tests by CERN.

It becomes a much different question when one is not only seeking answers that fit their beliefs.

ADTJ,

No

You say it’s not immeasurable but then all of the things you go on to describe are within the known universe, we can’t possibly know or measure what’s outside of it, because it is not known by definition.

I’m not asking for negative proofs in fact I haven’t asked for proof of anything, I’m not sure where you got that from. I’ve simply stated that we can’t draw statistics about things for which we have no evidence - which you now seem to be agreeing with.

I said you were making a different argument because you originally talked about existing religions which isn’t what my comment or the original comment was about, I stand by that - nothing of what you had said was relevant to my response.

You can’t possibly know that it’s over 99% unlikely that the universe isn’t a simulation or that it wasn’t created by some entity since we don’t yet have evidence pertaining to any hypothesis for how it was created. The statistic was pulled out of the air and has no scientific basis.

Do I think the universe is a giant Boltzmann brain or was created by an omniscient God? No, I don’t, but it’s still pointless to pretend it’s something we can have any certainty about.

Not to be rude but this conversation isn’t going anywhere, whether you don’t understand or just don’t agree, whatever I guess…

stonedemoman, (edited )

I think you’re forgetting that the supernatural is but another theory, put forth by humans, to explain our existence. It doesn’t earn bonus points for being unobservable. I’ve seen 0 evidence supporting it, contrary to how many questions particle physics has solved.

I’ve simply stated that we can’t draw statistics about things for which we have no evidence - which you now seem to be agreeing with.

I’ve posited quite the opposite of this. If there are two opposing theories, with one substantiated and one not, then the substantiated one is more likely. For example: you wouldn’t say that a chicken’s offspring being implanted in an egg by cosmic rays is just as likely as the egg being fertilized before it was laid because the latter is substantiated while the former has yet to have any observable truth.

I’d say 99% is a completely fair probability as the ratio of something to nothing approaches infinity.

we don’t yet have evidence pertaining to any hypothesis for how it was created

I just gave you some? I don’t know about you, but humans being able to replicate the exact particle that originated matter is a profound bit of evidence towards the universe not being a product of some higher power to me.

Mothra, in The Suffering
@Mothra@mander.xyz avatar

You’d think that he had enough time since the 80s to dull a blade and make it safe enough for this purpose, but no, almost four decades later and still sharp as new

rotopenguin,
@rotopenguin@infosec.pub avatar

He’s like a cat, keeping the claws sharp is just instinct

HonoraryMancunian, in The Suffering

Had to look up when it was set, because I assumed the 50s or 60s

The pastel colors, house furnishings, women’s fashions and hairstyles, pill hats, starburst wall clocks and pastel-colored rotary dial telephones are all reminiscent of the early 1960s. However, the VCRs and aerobics classes came to be in the 1980s or thereabout. So there is no real time when the movie “took place.”

TIL

profoundninja,

I guess that makes sense.

Not set in any of our time periods, but rather an alternate universe where the fashion trends, technology advancements and scissor hand dudes make sense.

1bluepixel, in I hope I put the correct amount of eyes on in the morning.
@1bluepixel@lemmy.ml avatar

Zuck clearly put it there as a joke/Easter egg. I know it’s weird, but dystopian multibillionnaires whose life’s work undermines the very foundations of democracy around the world can have a (bad) sense of humor too.

planish,

Deep Zuck lore.

Is there like a billionaires.fandom.com

sharkfucker420, in I might move again. (Or not)
@sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml avatar

.ml works great for me. What problems did you have with it?

stevehobbes,

Mostly the people running and modding it are insane.

platypus_plumba,

Thank God I don’t give a fuck about Lemmy dramas. If it works and I like the content, I’ll sta.

stevehobbes, (edited )

Which is fine for you, but other people might not like existing on an instance entirely devoted to bootlicking and silencing any differing opinions (that are even left of mainstream… but not left enough).

People joining .ml should know what they’re getting.

blackn1ght,

The problem starts when your comments silently get removed and you end up getting banned under vague “rule 1” because a mod disagrees with your view. The narrative of communities are defined by the mods even though the community is just a generic one.

sharkfucker420, (edited )
@sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml avatar

Oh you mean the communism?

I am communist

stevehobbes,

I can understand that someone might think communism is a better solution and worth a shot - but what I can’t understand is the China/Russia apologia. Trying to convince people what is plainly happening isn’t is a form of mental illness.

Socsa, (edited )

They aren’t communists, they are campists who harm leftist movements by doing things like simping for autocrats and making tyrants into folk heroes for the sake be being contrarian.

Banning criticism of China and Russia has literally nothing to do with communism.

Kecessa, (edited ) in I might move again. (Or not)

I’ll say it again and again, decentralization needs to be something the end user doesn’t notice, signing up to Lemmy should be like signing up to a centralized service with the servers running things being decentralized and the info redundant so servers can go down without having any effect on the service.

Let the admins decide if they don’t want to host content from certain communities, let the users decide if they want to block communities and users.

MashedTech,

I subscribe to this view.

camelbeard,

After seeing this post, I needed to check what server am I on right now anyway, didn’t even remember, so I guess that’s a good thing.

Kecessa, (edited )

You’re still dependent on a single point of failure, what I’m talking about is doing like any other website but instead of using a provider like AWS, you’ve got a bunch of people all over the world providing storage space and bandwidth and all data is stored on three servers in different locations at all times so there’s basically no reason for the website to ever crash.

If you were to access Lemmy from a web browser you would need to remember what server you’re signed up to because that’s the website you would need to go to, you wouldn’t be going to “Lemmy.com” or whatever.

aeronmelon,

You’re right, but there’s more to appreciate about needing to choose an instance.

It’s like email. All email services work with all others, but the end user still needs to choose a good one. There are more than one "good one"s, and part of the decision is about personal taste.

And sometimes you have to leave a bad provider for a better one. Look at my account, it’s brand new. Because lemm.ee has had one too many federation issues for my taste.

Kecessa, (edited )

Ok, so your argument is basically “Look at this unrelated service, that’s how it works too, so nothing wrong with the current service except that I had to do the thing that proves that what you’re talking about would be better.”

Eliminate the central authorities altogether, let people curate their feed so they don’t have to worry about someone else making choices about their experience.

Someone could join Lemmy today and have no idea they’re missing out on a big part of the available content because they joined the wrong instance, they would then turn around and just go back to Reddit where they know everything is available and they’re in control of what they’re subscribed to and what users they want to block.

kuberoot,

I don’t think that’d work, with Lemmy being a federated model, not a fully decentralized one.

How do you handle the actual login? Does that mean every server has access to your password hash? Or do you overhaul the account system to use something like a private and public key, with the user needing to store and transfer the private key to every device they use?

And what happens if two people register with the same username on two instances that aren’t federating? Do they somehow need to still communicate with all other instances in the network they operate in, to prevent that from happening? Because the alternative I see is the login being random in some way or tied to the instance, in which case you still lose the impression of a single service.

If I’m not mistaken, right now anybody could host a non-federating Lemmy instance, if they just wanted a small private community in this style. To my understanding, that’s the idea behind federation, and a founding concept of Lemmy - it’s not a giant service distributed across trusted servers, but a network of smaller communities that communicate with limited trust.

Kecessa, (edited )

There are no instances anymore with this system, it’s the data hosting that’s decentralized, the front-end looks like a centralized website so you would go to Lemmy.com instead of whatever instance you signed up on.

Imagine Reddit but there’s no central authority and instead of using a service like AWS it’s just people providing storage space and bandwidth and they can decide not to host content from certain communities on their server, but from the user’s point of view they wouldn’t know where they’re pulling the data from.

So no, you couldn’t have two users with the same username. The user database could easily be shared by all storage providers or the database could be randomly split and you would have to mention what part of the database your info is stored on when logging in. When creating your account (where it checks for doubles on the whole username list hosted on all servers) you’re given a random third credential that you need to mention when logging in so the service knows which servers host that part of the user database (all info including the database would have triple redundancy).

Right now a website’s data might not be stored on a single server so that’s already how things work, the difference is that all the different servers are owned by the same company (like Amazon or Google). In the backend the servers communicate together to provide the data to the users so it feels like everything is hosted in the same place.

TL;DR: The best way to fix things is to make it work like it does for any other websites but to only decentralize the hosting instead of also decentralizing the communities.

kuberoot,

Sounds like what you want basically is not Lemmy.

It also raises some pretty big issues, like who gets to moderate communities? Right now you make a community on a specific instance, you follow that instance’s rules, so the instance host has authority over the community. If you disagree with the instance’s rules, or with the way the community is ran, you can make a community on another instance, or even make your own instance with your own rules.

And from the other side, there need to be people with the authority to remove communities, and remove people/posts across different communities. Right now that’s the responsibility of the instance hosts, to my understanding - content is hosted on a primary instance, and stored through federating instances, so the primary instance has a responsibility to keep it clean of illegal material. Who would have this power and responsibility if instances aren’t differentiated? Sounds like the best case is giving trustworthy people an excessive amount of power, and the worst case is the entire network being shut down due to distributing illegal content and being effectively impossible to moderate.

You also didn’t address the issue of passwords - currently it’s a pretty big deal when hashed+salted passwords leak, considering those passwords compromised… The comparison with AWS is flawed - when using AWS, you’re trusting them, because it’s a big company with a reputation to keep. The situation seems very different when it’s random enthusiasts with highly differing views, and without a central authority to verify them (though there are probably too many to verify anyways)

And you propose that anybody can join the network and receive users’ passwords? On top of that, you’re proposing that you need to also know the “server” your data is stored on and supply that with logging in? Sounds like a really annoying friction point for the user.

I really feel like you’re approaching this from the wrong direction, suggesting Lemmy should abolish the very structure it’s built on for one you’d like more, but I think it could be possible to make the experience nicer without going to those extremes.

Maybe it’d be possible to let multiple instances have authority over an account, without changing its home instance, so that if your original instance goes down, you can keep the same account. And to reduce friction from communities being made across multiple instances, some way for communities themselves to federate/combine would be nice, and is probably being considered by people smarter than me.

Kecessa, (edited )

I know it’s not how Lemmy works, what I’m saying is “There’s a big issue with how Lemmy works, here’s how I think decentralization should be approached instead.” Having terabytes of information possibly disappearing because one person gets in a car accident on their way to work isn’t an improvement vs a centralized system hosted on AWS.

Communities would be moderated by their creator, server admins could decide not to host content from any communities they don’t want to host, if no server admin wants to host your community then you’re free to host it on your own server or to fix the problems with it.

There’s illegal content on Lemmy right now, even instances that don’t want to host it need to clean up their images folder because of it, so it’s not as if the way it works right now is any better for that and it’s not as if there’s no instance admin ready to host that content.

User credentials can be stored securely. Do you think your instance admin has a text file with your password written in plain characters?

The third credential I was suggesting is just one solution so not all servers have to have a “master database” with all user info stored, split the database and let the users know they need to remember they confirm their login through database X or Y. I’m sure much more intelligent people could come up with another solution.

kuberoot,

“There’s a big issue with how Lemmy works, here’s how I think decentralization should be approached instead.”

Again, I feel like you’re making the wrong point in the wrong place. My understanding is that you came to a project designed with the ideals of federation, and you complain that it shouldn’t be federated. That should probably be done as a fork of Lemmy, or an independent competitor.

It seems to me like you’re in ideological conflict with Lemmy’s developers, where you see no value in what Lemmy seeks to create. That’s completely fine, of course, but I really feel like you’re making your case in the wrong place.

Having terabytes of information possibly disappearing because one person gets in a car accident on their way to work isn’t an improvement vs a centralized system hosted on AWS.

Federation does not mean terabytes of information disappearing - to my understanding, posts, comments and votes are already duplicated across the instances. What would be lost is ownership of communities/posts, and accounts created on that instance, as well as things like image posts where the images are stored on one instance.

However, if images weren’t stored as links in those posts, accounts could be fully migrated, and communities could be migrated or even just federated with other communities, nothing would have to be lost.

Communities would be moderated by their creator, server admins could decide not to host content from any communities they don’t want to host, if no server admin wants to host your community then you’re free to host it on your own server or to fix the problems with it.

I feel like that structure wouldn’t work, just looking at how much defederation is happening, server owners wouldn’t want to be affiliated with certain content at all. It did also remind me of the fact that ActivityPub is not just Lemmy - you can also interact with mastodon and kbin on Lemmy, which is rooted in the federated approach.

There’s illegal content on Lemmy right now, even instances that don’t want to host it need to clean up their images folder because of it, so it’s not as if the way it works right now is any better for that and it’s not as if there’s no instance admin ready to host that content.

True, I feel like the issue only gets worse as you blur the line between different instances more, but I have no data to back that up.

User credentials can be stored securely. Do you think your instance admin has a text file with your password written in plain characters?

I feel like you failed to address my point, that with the current security standard, data leaks are still considered a threat to your password security. Even in the best case, getting access to hashed passwords means being able to brute force it without any rate limits. Maybe I’m wrong, but you’d need to either prove that password hashes leaking are not an issue at all, or figure out a way to provide trusted decentralized authentication server architecture, or figure out a way to store the passwords where leaks are not an issue… Or give up on using passwords and require a different authentication method, like public key authentication.

The third credential I was suggesting is just one solution […]. I’m sure much more intelligent people could come up with another solution.

It’s a bit hypocritical of me, since I mentioned smarter people than me working on something, but I feel like if you’re strongly suggesting Lemmy should be majorly reworked in this way, there’s some expectation for you to provide a solution, not just say that somebody will figure it out.

Kecessa,

How does what I’m talking about prevents federation? Lemmy is federated with kbin and mastodon even though they don’t work the same way…

I never said I see no value in what Lemmy created, I’m saying that the way they went about it might not have been the right one because now that there’s a lot of users and many instances were created, we can see that one major flaw in the system is that the instance’s admin can just decide they’re done with Lemmy and all content hosted on their instance just vanishes.

If your instance crashed I wouldn’t be able to see your messages until your instance was back online, that’s why when you copy a permalink to a comment it’s the address of their instance that you see, instances host the content posted by their own user no matter where it’s posted, instances communicate between themselves to share that info so their users see what other instances users post, that’s also why you might still see posts on communities of instances you’re defederated from, they’re posts by people from your own instance.

On the password thing, it’s no worse than what’s going with the current system, you’re trusting the instance admins not to leak anything… Heck, splitting up the lists could be even more secure since it could be equally divided between hosts instead of having a couple of instances hosting what amounts to over 50% of all credentials… What happens if lemmy.world’s admin leaks everything?

And I’m suggesting solutions, I don’t have the expertise to implement them. Do you believe that all tech is developed by the person who came up with an idea? Because I sure would love to meet the person that developed my cars seats, computer, engine and suspension, that single person must be one hell of a genius!

cyberpunk007, in 11,144 Episodes and Counting

I tried to watch one piece and lasted 10 minutes. It was hard to watch.

Kage520,

I literally tried One Piece Kai so that I could get to the good part faster and I still didn’t make it. One Piece fans tell me I was almost to the good part. Okay if your good part is 100+ normal episodes in, I’m gonna have to pass on your show.

SuperSaiyanSwag,

I love One Piece, but if anyone says to “wait till you get to the good part” then imo they are not really true One Piece fans. That show has charm right off the bat, and if you don’t like it then it’s just not your cup of tea.

EvolvedTurtle,

Hell from what I’ve been told the good part is the beginning and it goes down past the time skip

I’m only 100 episodes in so I wouldn’t know for sure

SuperSaiyanSwag, (edited )

I would agree. I like the overarching story, but they are really stretching everything out a bit too much. Worse than Goku’s spirit bomb at this point.

Graphy,

I’m not even a one piece fan but I love the early episodes where they’re collecting the whole gang. Like if you don’t latch onto that part then you’re definitely not going to care about the rest.

cashews_best_nut, (edited ) in I might move again. (Or not)

I had one of my posts on AskLemmy deleted for being “offensive”. It was asking a silly question “Are Brits the Americans of Europe?”. Some saw the lighthearted side. The professionally offended got it deleted.

Over-moderation will kill Lemmy instances. One of the reasons Reddit became as big as it did is due to very light-touch moderation verging on “absolute freedom of speech”. It was refreshing and ‘alternative’ compared to the increasing sanitisation of the Internet.

Unfortunately Reddit-rotted Zoomers have jumped from the heavy-handed Reddit modding to Lemmy and will quickly fuck up any attempt to grow the platform. Because they don’t remember/know how early Reddit worked.

They’re trying to moderate Lemmy like it’s a billion-user platform when it’s a few hundred thousand.

Anon819450514,

Yup. The platform should feel alive.

I remember on Reddit when people were trying the limits and quirks of the algorithm, and you would wake up one day and your feed was filled with something totally unrelated. A few hours later and it went back to normal.

half_built_pyramids,

I say some spicy stuff now and then. Some gets hammered some not.

ArmokGoB,

Every platform should have some mechanism to remove troublesome moderators.

The_Vampire,

The whole point of the Reddit-style was that subreddits could be controlled by moderators and prevented from slipping into the same old tired town square-esque mess that arrives with popularity. I guarantee a mechanism to remove moderators would result in niche communities that get a surge in popularity winding up with the original moderators ousted because all the newcomers don’t understand the community.

If you don’t like how a community is run, you can start your own for completely free. That’s how this works, you shouldn’t be able to commandeer a community from the people who started it. If there’s a truly problematic moderator, the new community will grow quickly.

ArmokGoB,

The issue is that a community on any platform is made by the average users, not the moderators. If you splinter a community into three competing communities, you will probably severely damage its integrity as a whole. It’s similar to the issue that some Discord servers have, where they tell people to take discussion from the main channel into different channels. More often than not, this kills the discussion because few people actually move to a different channel, with most opting to drop the discussion entirely.

A few people shouldn’t have complete ownership over something that exists because the people under them make it so.

The_Vampire,

At the end of the day, it is the moderators who maintain and control the community. They control what users even see, so it’s not fair to say a community is made by the average user, the average user is completely silent. I would rather competing communities over every community being at the whim of the masses. The masses are easy to misguide.

Omega_Haxors, (edited )

Moderation desperately needs openness it is way too easy to get perm banned because you pissed one person off. No notification of what you did wrong, no explanation of what you did wrong, no chance at appeal, and to add insult to injury it permanently unsubscribes you.

tyrefyre,

Ah yes it’s the next generations fault. What a unique take on the situation.

TheKingBee,
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Over-moderation will kill Lemmy instances. One of the reasons Reddit became as big as it did is due to very light-touch moderation verging on “absolute freedom of speech”. It was refreshing and ‘alternative’ compared to the increasing sanitisation of the Internet.

That’s the sub not the website, over moderation is a feature of some subs, just like lemmy instances. Just like reddit, if you don’t like it create your own, unlike reddit you can set an overall tone to your instance.

HiddenLayer5, in How was this a feel good story?!
@HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml avatar

Also, Santa, who’s implied to be the guardian of the reindeer, chose not to intervene in the slightest on behalf of Rudolph. He never at any point even acknowledged the bullying and went straight to using Rudolph for his own benefit. This, despite a 0% chance he didn’t know about the bullying considering that his literal thing is knowing if you’re bad or good. Bullying isn’t considered bad?

Catsrules,

Maybe knowing bad from good only works on human children?

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