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  • takeda, (edited )

    I was mocking too, but things changed when a phone became the device to play back videos. At this point the orientation didn’t matter as much.

    It got to the point that some services, like YouTube shorts pretty much mandate vertical orientation.

    ChapulinColorado,

    Cursing those services to never be seen on desktop devices because they look so wasteful of screen real state.

    bdonvr,

    It’s not so bad when your secondary monitor is vertical lmao

    JPJones,

    Sure, but then you’re viewing it on your secondary monitor.

    AltheaHunter,

    You don’t always need to use every bit of screen real estate. The goal is watching videos, not min-maxing monitor usage.

    Meowoem,

    I actually prefer them to landscape because like a growing amount of people I only watch YouTube on the right side of my screen and use the left for work, drawing, or if course internet browsing and chat windows.

    ramirezmike,

    it’s not stupid if that’s the format it gets viewed most in

    JPJones,

    Rotate your phone you dirty savage! Or don’t idc really.

    stolid_agnostic,

    I think you just proved the meme lol

    ramirezmike, (edited )

    all I’m saying is if you’re recording something for tiktok or Instagram, it’s going to look best if it’s recorded vertically

    ExtraMedicated,

    Yes, but we also hate tiktok and instagram.

    vaultdweller013,

    Hell I refuse to acknowledge either, mind you I also dont enjoy the content of either.

    Anemia,

    How is this controversial. If its made to be viewed on a phone then I don’t see the reason to film hoizontally. Epecially the type of content that most people seem to make on like tiktok etc. seems better in vertical view.

    ramirezmike,

    it looks like it’s controversial because any app that has vertical content must be terrible 🤷‍♂️

    Anemia,

    I mean I don’t perticularly like the content of any of those apps (lemmy is the only real social media i use). But that doesn’t change the fact that they are using the correct format for the job.

    ramirezmike,

    don’t get me wrong, I agree. Furthermore, despite the problems with apps like TikTok, I do think there’s an incredible amount of amazing content created on that platform. It can be such a showcase of the creativity of the average person, it just sucks that it’s pretty objectively terrible in multiple ways.

    Sl00k,

    Lemmy definitely showing its older age skew here lol. Almost anything related to any social media will be better vertical. (Even lemmy itself ironically)

    Hell the vertical video trend on TikTok this year was a phenomenal trend and I even recall seeing A24 doing a vertical trailer cut just for TikTok.

    SpiceyDejarik,

    I think it depends on your intended audience. If what you’re filming is meant to be viewed on a phone, then vertical makes sense. If the video is meant to be viewed on a TV, movie screen, or computer monitor, then rotate your phone.

    GrammatonCleric,
    @GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world avatar

    Ah yes, nothing like seeing a 16:9 picture pan-and-scanned on a portrait display.

    It’s not a generational thing; it’s a filming standard.

    Maven,

    I still do. Phones can be turned to view it either way. Screens can’t. I’m not gonna ask my bud to get up and rotate his living room TV 90 degrees so we can look at my vacation photos. Plus, until we learn to levitate with our minds, the plane humans interact is and will presumably remain much, much wider than it is tall, so landscape captures more of it.

    cyberpunk007,

    Yup. It’s a shame the camera lense can’t like rotate or something, phones are much easier to hold vertically.

    aulin,

    They’re just as easy to hold either way though.

    cyberpunk007,

    I find it too difficult to take a picture or video landscape one handed compared to portrait

    mamotromico,

    Why is that? Most phones allow you to press the shutter with the volume button so it should be easy either way

    cyberpunk007,

    I usually change settings, my phone is big. Like depending on the scenario I might change my frame rate on the video or the optical zoom. I find it too difficult with a pixel 6 pro and my hand size. Also I use rotation lock because it’s annoying if I’m laying down to have it rotate on me. So then I also need to tap the icon in the lower corner to rotate it, or disable it while I take a video. Lots of mucking about for one hand.

    aulin,

    That’s true, but I find it just as difficult to access those features onehanded in vertical orientation, so I either do those twohanded before shooting, or I struggle about as much to reach them in either orientation.

    FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    The weight is more evenly distributed if you hold it vertically. I still hold it horizontally though.

    aulin, (edited )

    I don’t know. If I balance the phone on my pinky, with the index finger on top and ring- and middle finger behind, it sits very solidly. My thumb is then free to tap the shutter button.

    HughJanus,

    Ehhhhh no that’s obviously wrong.

    stolid_agnostic, (edited )

    I suspect that the sensor has the same dimensions, roughly, as the phone itself. Putting in a square one would probably cost more. Not saying that either way is right, just that that’s probably the reason.

    someguy3,

    Lenses are circular, so the most cost effective would be a square sensor and square picture. I don’t actually know what modern sensors are though.

    LostXOR,

    Most phone camera sensors (and most camera sensors in general) are 4:3.

    dustyData,

    This is why 4:3 should become the default aspect ratio for taking videos on phone.

    No, I will not be taking questions at this moment.

    fogstormberry,

    great idea, but 1:1 is what it should have always been

    TheGreenGolem, (edited )
    @TheGreenGolem@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Nah, we should use some freedom aspect ratio, like 1.47266478:1.984772673

    AltheaHunter,

    π:e

    jaybone,

    Is that imperial or metric pi?

    AltheaHunter,

    Galactic Standard

    daltotron,

    We are now to use 1x√2 as the optimal aspect ratio, as to allow screens to be put side by side, and then turned into larger screens.

    ray,

    I could definitely get on board with extending ISO 216 to include a standardized set of screen sizes with this aspect ratio.

    Zorg,
    @Zorg@lemmings.world avatar

    3:2 please

    someguy3,

    1:1

    kamen,

    Vertical or horizontal?

    /s

    Exusia,
    @Exusia@lemmy.world avatar

    Galaxy Fold camera has this as the default dimensions. (The screen is also 4:3)

    b000rg,

    I shoot in 4:3 because it’s closer to the actual sensor’s resolution. No I have never looked this up, and no I will not change my ways if told otherwise.

    taiyang,

    My pro move is too change halfway in the same clip so at some point the orientation is just wrong no matter what you do. I also do diagonal shots.

    I’m not allowed to film anymore.

    LostXOR,

    Diagonal is the compromise solution.

    TommySalami,

    Call it a dutch angle, and suddenly you’re a cinematographer

    jaybone,

    I film upside down and call it the Australian angle.

    Then I film this joke and call it the dead horse angle.

    GladiusB,
    @GladiusB@lemmy.world avatar

    If you do a dutch oven with a dutch angle are you Dutch ^2 ?

    get_off_the_phone,

    No. If you take a tilted photo of a fart under the bed covers that’s only double Dutch.

    scottywh,

    San Francisco angle

    bricklove,

    Most of Battlefield Earth is shot diagonally and no one has complained about that fine film

    possiblylinux127,
    daltotron,

    Legitimately I do think being kind of, orientation agnostic, seems like a decent idea. I’ve seen it done well before in things like webtoons, where the sort of “line of action”, as it were, can benefit from bouncing from one side of the screen to the other, and where a variety of composition techniques can make a shot look more interesting and be properly readable in either viewing orientation. I think a conflict kind of naturally comes about when you’re just wanting to shoot everything to be completely in line with the floor so it’s easily parsed by the viewer, which is understandable, but kind of limits how interesting and efficient you can make your shots.

    Also, somebody needs to make some popsockets that actually work, so holding your phone horizontally for more than five minutes doesn’t suck garbage doo doo.

    TheGalacticVoid,

    I unironically wish that modern videos could change FPS, aspect ratio, and resolution on the fly. There’s way too many cases where having a 16:9 section of a video followed by a cinematic section is useful, and black bars are an awful way of transitioning between the two. Same can be said for vertical and horizontal ratios in the same video.

    daltotron,

    we might get there with AI and maybe some auto-editing recutting software at some point (or just with fancuts, if IP law ever gets better), where the aspect ratio can be redone for a specific cut of the film, but I don’t think it’s ever gonna get to the point where you’d be better off watching something on a 16:9 monitor if it was meant for 4:3, unless you’re really dead set on redoing all the shot composition so everything isn’t confined endlessly to the center of the screen.

    realistically our best bet would’ve been to just film everything in the same aspect ratio, which I thought would be the case after we all collectively decided to fuck ourselves, and very slowly migrate from 4:3 and your other postage stamp aspect ratios, to 16:9, over the course of like 50 years and over the course of different mediums. but apparently we can’t have that, and we just have to get increasingly longer and longer aspect ratios because phone manufacturers suck. it’s been like a century and change since we started filming stuff and everyone still just treats it like pictures on a camera, where it’s all up to uncompromising artistic integrity.

    hate that shit.

    TheGalacticVoid,

    The thing is each aspect ratio has its merits for productivity, so 16:9 can’t be an end-all be-all.

    Also, what I’m talking about is different from what you’re talking about. If source footage was shot in 2 aspect ratios, and both are used in a YouTube video or movie, it should be possible to label video segments with their correct aspect ratio. Right now, a single video can only have 1 aspect ratio, so if a video was formatted for 21:9 with some source footage being 16:9, if you were to watch that video on a 16:9 monitor, you’d see black bars on the top, bottom, left, and right of your screen despite the video segment being 16:9. If you watch WandaVision on a 16:9 or 4:3 monitor, you’ll understand what I mean.

    daltotron,

    So would you want to stop watching a video on one monitor, and then pick up where you left off on a different monitor with a different aspect ratio? That seems like a lot of hoopla to me, a lot of rigamarole. I do agree though, that should be a function.

    TheGalacticVoid,

    Not necessarily. I am saying that instead of a video being 16:9 while containing a 16:10 clip, the video should be 16:9 for most of it and 16:10 for the segment with the clip. There would be fewer black bars during playback because the computer would interpret different frames of video as being in different aspect ratios.

    rimjob_rainer,

    I still mock them

    platypus_plumba, (edited )

    Sure grandma… Watch your step

    Octavio,

    Same. I will die on this hill. Vertical video sucks!

    SuckMyWang,

    My grandmas funeral was filmed in vertical video you piece of shit

    Anamnesis,

    This is a good joke and it’s wooshed by eight people already.

    Syrc,

    Wait, what was the joke? I didn’t downvote but definitely got wooshed.

    Daft_ish,

    But like… my screen is veritical.

    Octavio,

    😂😂 right, right…

    affiliate,

    what would happen if you turned it sideways

    Daft_ish,

    Something not good, I’m sure

    7u5k3n,

    Vertical Video Syndrome

    It’s a problem

    HiddenLayer5,
    @HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml avatar

    Not really for very short video because 99% of the time you’ll be watching it on your phone which is vertical by default. For long video horizontal is better.

    RaoulDook,

    No, 99% of the time I’ll be looking at it on the computer and my monitor is in the natural Landscape orientation

    krush_groove,

    I am a social media content creator sometimes for work…

    But human eyes are on the vertical plane…

    I feel so conflicted sometimes.

    M137,
    @M137@lemmy.world avatar

    I never had a problem with this. It’s not like whole movies or long youtube videos are recorded vertically. The kind of content that is recorded vertically is mainly watched on phones, and it’s not like it’s unwatchable on any other screen. Never once have I seen anyone say anything about it that is anything more than mild inconvenience about something they really shouldn’t care that much about. It’s just stereotypical “complaining because you can” bullshit that is so common.

    FIST_FILLET,

    i’m not 110% in agreement (more like 65%) but you deserve an upvote for being the only person in here to defend it

    JackiesFridge,
    @JackiesFridge@lemmy.world avatar

    Same. I may not agree with what you say, but I will upvote til dinner your right to say it.

    The thing I hate about vertical video is all the footage of rare or historical events that are filmed by someone firehosing their phone back & forth like mad trying to capture the scope of it all, when all they have to do is rotate the phone 90 degrees. Don’t make me watch a tsunami through a keyhole. Frame correctly to capture the event.

    Kolanaki, (edited )
    @Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

    I still question why so many people find it so difficult to just turn the phone 90 degrees to the side when you film with it. Is it because you think you look like a dork when you film a selfie with two hands? Because that’s not why you look like a dork.

    StitchIsABitch,

    Admittedly you would look like a dork if you filmed at a 45 degree angle.

    tigeruppercut,
    Emerald,

    Oh wow I didn’t know there was a word for this, i love making dutch angle photos

    FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    I usually hold my phone horizontally to shoot video, but it definitely is easier to hold it vertically. After all, it was designed to be held vertically.

    Meowoem,

    A lot of the time it’s not that people can’t or are scared to, they just don’t feel the need to because most the video they watch is in vertical format. It’s not being filmed for cinema release, it’s for phones and tablets.

    Psychodelic,

    So people on lemmy are pretty fuckin old eh? Interesting…

    tigeruppercut,

    hey, some of us are merely kinda fuckin old

    Ziglin,

    I wouldn’t even consider myself that and I still mock people taking vertical pictures

    Meowoem,

    Yeah I know what you mean, it only seems like yesterday that that upstart Daguerre began with his gosh darn foolish portrait orientation photographs, of course we didn’t call them that then, we called 'em daguerreotypes…

    MargotRobbie,
    @MargotRobbie@lemmy.world avatar

    Note to self: “2 Fast 2 Barbie”(working title) should now be filmed vertically in order to appeal to Gen Z on Tik Tok.

    possiblylinux127,

    Just make sure the main plot happens in the first 3 seconds or else they will get bored

    zalgotext,

    At the very least make sure Subway Surfers is playing in one of the corners

    xrtxn,

    Akschually filming it vertically is not good because we can’t insert subway surfers gameplay under the movie. It should be filmed like a small rectangle

    AMDIsOurLord,

    WHAT is up with that shit anyway? It’s so annoying

    Daft_ish,

    It stimulates my brain meat.

    Lesrid, (edited )

    At first I thought it was just a method to avoid copyright detection. It may have started as that but the 22yr old I live with says it gives people something else to do while watching the movie so they don’t get bored.

    Thcdenton,
    sockenklaus,
    @sockenklaus@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Which movie is it?

    Alenalda,

    Looks like 2001

    YeetPics,
    @YeetPics@mander.xyz avatar

    Film is way too grainy, had to be filmed sometime earlier. Maybe '65-70? We may never know.

    Barometer3689,

    Woosh. He meant 2001: a space odyssey

    JamesStallion,

    that’s a whoosherang right there.

    YeetPics,
    @YeetPics@mander.xyz avatar

    DoubleWooosh I know, the movie was produced in 1967

    Barometer3689,

    Oh my god. It took me a while to figure out what this meant. I guess I was wooshed while attempting to point out a non existent woosh.

    YeetPics,
    @YeetPics@mander.xyz avatar

    Hey it’s all good, many folks haven’t seen 2001 yet and it’s sad. Keep sharing it!

    Agent641, (edited )

    It was filmed in 2001 as evident by the title but only released in the late 1960s, thats why it looks that way.

    YeetPics,
    @YeetPics@mander.xyz avatar

    That makes sense

    Psythik,

    Dude can afford to go to space but can’t afford a tablet with an OLED.

    FreshLight,

    …and I hate it

    rickdg,
    @rickdg@lemmy.world avatar

    The medium is the message and all that.

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