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brokenlcd, in I'm looking for a privacy respecting vacuum robot

I think your best option is to find a used one that supports valetudo

besmtt,

+1 for Valetudo! I’ve installed it once via OTA and twice by FEL. The OTA was obviously a breeze, but FEL wasn’t that bad. I just watched videos on YouTube for the disassembly and took my time doing each step. I love the UI and the fact that I can SSH into them just for the sheer coolness of it! I think one great thing about it is that it doesn’t affect the software that the robot uses for all its tasks and functions (e.g. vacuuming, mopping, sensors), just that it replaced the cloud and runs it on device.

DreadPotato,
@DreadPotato@sopuli.xyz avatar

Damn, thats a pretty short list og supported models

brokenlcd,

The problem is that they are closed off systems; you need to do full on reverse engineering to even understand what you are dealing with; plus there is the fact that these appliances are expensive and, unlike people modding consoles, there isn’t mutch gained for the majority of users

Jerry1098,

Thanks a lot, that pretty much what I was looking for

brokenlcd,

No problem; do note that in most cases you are going to need to open the vacuum to access the serial interface; so make sure you are comfortable with doing that and that you have the necessary adapters… That last one bit me on numerous projects

holycrapwtfatheism,

Never knew this was a thing. Going to try it on my roborock, appreciate the link.

skimm,

I’d definitely recommended valetudo, but wanted to mention that eufy has some easily repairable non WiFi vacs that work reasonably well with no smart features. Eufy has a rough track record regarding privacy with their other smart products but can’t spy without a connection.

sndrtj,

This is damn great.

Salix, (edited )

I use a Dreametech L10 Pro with Valetudo and absolutely love it!

It is quite nice to be able to map your whole house for the vacuum in your own cloud rather provide a 3rd party that data.

LetterboxPancake,

I might get into robot vacuums again, thank you very much!

fogetaboutit, in UK porn watchers could have faces scanned

You got a loicense to fap mate?!

pdxfed,

Some potential voice acting work for Jason Statham if expendables and F&F franchises ever finally call it quits.

hackris, in The Boost android client for Lemmy is displaying these dark pattern ads pretending to be system notifications. What security/privacy conscious Lemmy clients do you recommend?

Please. For the love of god, NEVER use a proprietary app to use a piece of FOSS software. I think it’s kind of sad that we have this amazing FOSS social network and people use fucking proprietary software to use it.

pirrrrrrrr,

Open-source it a better interface then.

Until it’s as useful as at least Sync for Lemmy, people will use 3rd party proprietary apps

sir_reginald, (edited )
@sir_reginald@lemmy.world avatar

There are a bunch of good FOSS Lemmy clients, which I’d argue are as good as Sync or Boost (I can’t know for sure since I don’t use proprietary software, I judge by the screenshots).

Jerboa sucks, I’ll give you that. But both Voyager and Eternity are high quality clients that work amazingly well and are constantly updated. They have plenty of features and are very configurable.

hackris,

I mean isn’t Lemmy licensed under the AGPL? I’m just asking because AFAIK a proprietary client is not even allowed under this license.

SeriousBug,

You couldn’t make a proprietary server. Client is fine, AGPL doesn’t apply when you are accessing the server over a public API.

aspensmonster,
@aspensmonster@lemmygrad.ml avatar

AGPL doesn’t apply when you are accessing the server over a public API.

The AGPL does apply when interacting with the covered work (Lemmy server) over a network. A proprietary client would still nevertheless be required, upon request, to furnish you with the source code of the covered work it is talking to over the network (the Lemmy server).

boyi,

Do you really know what you are talking about? I think you’re bullshitting. We are talking about propriety client which doesnt modified the source codes of the server.

hackris,

Thank you, didn’t know this :)

vox, (edited )
@vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

i use sync. there’s nothing even close to the quality of the client. (The onlt client that implements material you in a fun and usable way, sync is usable one-handed)
I had been using Liftoff for a while (before switching to Sync as soon as it came out), which i quite liked but it feels a lot worse than sync

cypherpunks, (edited )
@cypherpunks@lemmy.ml avatar

(The onlt client that implements material you in a fun and usable way, sync is usable one-handed)

Touchscreen keyboards and their consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

cashews_best_nut,

That’s silly and I’m a long time Linux user.

hperrin, in Google will no longer hold onto people's location data in Google Maps — meaning it can't turn that info over to the police

I’ll believe it when I see it.

vlad76,
@vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

And since there’s no way for me to “see it”, I don’t believe it.

SuckMyWang,

It will go to a 3rd party like meta first and then not be stored at google. That way google can’t turn that info over to the police

moistclump,

And I’ll believe it when I see executives be punished personally for lying. If they are lying. Which hopefully they aren’t.

Kir, in Feeling like Privacy is a lost war.

Privacy is a collective “war”, it’s not something that can be fought on individual level. You can adopt some precaution on a personal level, and try to do better, but it’s something that must be brought to a collective level.

Same as climate change policy and worker right.

beefpeach,

It’s a collective war that I also feel is lost. Especially, when there is little to no policies in effect to stop these data brokers. Unless you live in California.

Kir,

I live in Europe, and I feel the battle is still on (but very very difficult)

troglodytis,

Not to worry, climate change will bring back privacy

drwho,

Even then, not so much. I’ve been tugging on those particular wires, and the overall response seems to be, send a reply once, then ghost you until you’ve forgotten that you asked them. They do nothing during that time, and will probably continue to do nothing well after we forget.

pdxfed,

I “live” in California to every company that I do business there that also operates in CA…

roteradler,

We have policies on Europe but even they do not help. The ad business is completely out of control, on some sites there are over 200 as companies gathering your data and selling them through the real time bidding system. it’s impossible to know who bought the data. just have a look what’s been uncovered lately.

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YeetPics, in Brave to end 'Strict' fingerprinting protection as it breaks websites
@YeetPics@mander.xyz avatar

The scam company brave? The one that scams people? With their scam based crypto rewards that don’t pay out? THAT brave?

LWD,

There’s no reason to hate Brave unless you have a political bias against their CEO.

Besides in 2016, when Brave promised to remove banner ads from websites and replace them with their own, basically trying to extract money directly from websites without the consent of their owners

And when the CEO unilaterally added a fringe, pay-to-win Wikipedia clone into the default search engine list.

And in 2018, Tom Scott and other creators noticed Brave was soliciting donations in their names without their knowledge or consent.

And in 2020, when Brave got caught injecting URLs with affiliate codes when users tried browsing to various websites.

Also in 2020, when they silently started injecting ads into their home page backgrounds, pocketing the revenue. There was a lot of pushback: “the sponsored backgrounds give a bad first impression.” Further requests were ignored (immediately closed)

And in 2022, when Brave floated the idea of further discouraging users from disabling sponsored messages.

And in 2023, when Brave got caught installing a paid VPN service on users’ computers without their consent.

drislands,

But other than that, there’s no reason!

shotgun_crab,

You’re right, no reason at all :)

moreeni,

You can dig as much shit on Mozilla. Every big browser company right now is shitty

Mikina,

This made me wonder - is there any active Best Of community on any instance? This would be a perfect candidate.

YeetPics,
@YeetPics@mander.xyz avatar

I had a small mountain of BAT they locked me out of due to shoddy linking with their banking affiliates and out of date DRM practices locking me out of my account due to too many devices being logged in (each OS update counted as its own device).

I noticed you didn’t have that linked, that’s because not every shitty move a company makes gets news coverage. Sorry I don’t fit into your narrow view on what constitutes a valid reason.

LWD,

If there’s something interesting to add to the list, I’m curious. Brave did partner with a criminal organization currently under a $1.1 billion lawsuit, but I don’t have enough information about your particular case.

Did the software lock you out or did their servers? Was this reported on anywhere?

YeetPics,
@YeetPics@mander.xyz avatar

The banking backend that grifted me is called uphold and at the time that was the ONLY way to move BAT out of their wallet.

The device limit was a known issue for years and I left before they fixed it.

While I was still a user I would try their forum for support. Big shocker, LOTS of other users had the same issue and reports got ignored or muted by the mods there.

umbrella, in Manifest v3 is Worse than I Thought
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

get firefox and ublock origin.

its so fucking simple, why do people have such weird attachment to chrome??

Concave1142,

We are in the middle of rolling out a new SaaS solution at work that just works better in Edge. The amount of outrageous levels of anger and disgust we get from telling them to use Edge is stupid. Even telling users it is built on Chromium, just like Chrome, does nothing to dissuade their unfounded anger.

With some people it actually comes down to telling them, “if you don’t use Edge, then I guess you need to start looking for another job that only uses Chrome”.

I just don’t get it.

cm0002,

Edge can go fucking die, MS has lost all trust with me when it comes to them and Internet Browsers, I rip edge out of all my systems no matter what it might “break”.

Maybe you should deploy solutions that are browser agnostic. That kind of shit is how we ended up with IE and its proprietary BS like ActiveX years ago. Clearly, people are forgetting history

meat_popsicle,

lol like management gives two shits about how browser agnostic a product is. business solutions look to address the perceived gap or need, not tailor to IT personnel feelings.

cm0002,

That’s easy, just find [Some important person] who can’t live without [Chrome/Firefox/Whatever] and bring them to your side lmao

Either way, it didn’t sound like he was saying “I tried to push for better, but management shut me down” it sounded like he was happy to move to edge and “couldn’t understand why people were angry”

Heavybell,
@Heavybell@lemmy.world avatar

For better and worse, most people don’t care what’s under the hood. They care about the surface features. I.e. Chrome already has their bookmarks, the buttons are all in the same place, etc.

You and I know there’s little difference but end users don’t want to change, even if it’s to something that would benefit them in the long run (i.e. Firefox)

lemmyreader,

Agreed on using Firefox/LibreWolf and uBlock Origin, I love that combination. I think the thing is that Google Chrome is much faster than Firefox on Android phones (I don’t mind, I hardly ever use mobile to browse), and long time habits can be hard to break for some people.

ziixe,
@ziixe@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Yup, can say that firefox is quite a bit slower on android (but honestly it’s still quite ok, unless it decides to loop loading the page, or it bugs out in another way, at least on my phone it’s quite prone to breaking, for comparison brave is really a bit faster than Firefox

umbrella, (edited )
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

Yeah, it IS slower on android, but adblocking more than makes up for it IMO.

ziixe,
@ziixe@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Also not only that, but the ability to let me choose if I want to open a link in an app or not, happens countless times with stuff like GitHub automatically wanting to redirect to the app (which sucks)

umbrella,
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

oh there was a bug a few versions back that did this, but it seems they fixed it now

jmp242,

Not so much chrome, but many browsers (like my favorite Vivaldi) are chromium based. I wish they’d just keep uBlock going in the chromium rebuilds, but IDK if that’s possible. Seems like it should be to me though.

Also, we switched at work from Firefox because somehow they broke system level updates a few years ago, and nothing I could do was able to figure out why their installer stopped working without first having someone run the uninstall graphically to update to the new version. It would just say Firefox wasn’t a valid windows exe till I manually removed it. And even the Mozilla Enterprise list seemed flummoxed. Honestly, I think they should have reverted the installer change, or even just use a standard installer that doesn’t have this problem, but hey.

yogthos,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

This is precisely why I’ve never found Chromium based browsers to be of much relevance. These are just skins on top of the rendering engine which is the core of the browser and that’s entirely controlled by Google. People kept ignoring this and now we’re in a situation where Chrome and its derivatives dominate the market to the point where sites no longer care whether they follow W3C specs as long as Chrome renders them. We’re now back in pretty much the same situation we were in the days of IE.

It’s depressing that people were unable to understand where things were going until Google started doing blatantly evil things. The only thing that was keeping Google in check before was the fact that it was lack of market dominance. Google is an ads company, and there is a huge conflict of interest with them being the gatekeepers to the internet.

Poggervania, in Verizon Gave Her Data to a Stalker. ‘This Has Completely Changed My Life’
@Poggervania@kbin.social avatar

Bullshit, Verizon isn’t a victim at all - they fucked up, they should own up to their mistake instead of trying to go “me too!” to a situation where a stalker harassed their customer and their family after giving said stalker the customer’s personal information.

Pantherina, in YouTube adds tracking parameters to shared URLs that can be traced back to individual Google accounts

Of course it does. Firefoxes new ClearURL copy feature is great

papertowels,

This was the final thing that convinced me to give Firefox another go, thank you.

pineapplelover, (edited )

One of us! One of us! Firefox is fucking amazing, just set up all the recommended extensions like ublock origin and privacy badger.

Empricorn,

uBlock Origin is now recommended by Firefox itself!? Or did you mean the community?

pineapplelover, (edited )

Mostly all extensions recommended by the community. However there is a recommended section on mozilla addons as well

SnotFlickerman, (edited ) in Cops Used DNA to Predict a Suspect’s Face—and Tried to Run Facial Recognition on It
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Cops only like technology when they can abuse it to avoid having to do real investigative police work.

They don’t care to understand the technology in any deep manner, and as we’ve seen with body cams, when they retain full control over the technology, it’s basically a farce to believe it could be used to control their behavior.

I mean, on top of that, a lot of “forensic science” isn’t science at all and is arguably a joke.

Cops like using the veneer of science and technology to act like they’re doing “serious jobs” but in reality they’re just a bunch of thugs trying to dominate and control.

In other words, this is just the beginning, don’t expect them to stop doing stuff like this, and further, expect them to start producing “research” that “justifies” these “investigation” methods and see them added to the pile of bullshit that is “fOrEnSiC sCiEnCE.”

FishLake,

After the murder of Michael Brown, body cams were lauded by centrists as a way to prevent police from unlawfully killing people. And there’s never been a single police shoo- oh wait

ToxicWaste,

TBH: Tech companies are not much different from how you described cops.

They don’t usually bother to learn the tech they are using properly and take all the shortcuts possible. You see this by the current spout of AI startups. Sure, LLMs work pretty good. But most other applications of AI is more like: “LOL, no idea how to solve the problem. I hooked it up to this blackbox, which i don’t understand, and trained it to give me the results i want.”

BrikoX, in [Discussion] How do you feel about age verification on Porn sites?
@BrikoX@lemmy.zip avatar

But I also feel that any random kid shouldn’t be able to just go to these sites and see porn freely.

So they will just go to another site that doesn’t have age verification and doesn’t implement any security measures instead. Big sites are required to age check people before they are allowed to upload anything, that is not the case for most of the internet.

All age verification does is aggregate personal information and make it easy target for bad actors to steal. Instead of needing to go thought 100 sites, now that information & identities will be tied to a single database.

It’s also a slippery slope, since the same adult content is available not just on dedicated adult sites, but mainstream social media. Lemmy, Mastodon, Twitter, TikTok, Twitch (just recently wanted to allow nudity). Do you really want to have your identity tied to your online activity?

curiousaur,

Governments should not be taking on parental duties.

VolunTerry,

+1 here, friend. Spread the word.

skullgiver,
@skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl avatar

Perhaps, but too many parents are terrible at their jobs.

Would you argue the same thing with other age restrictions, such as buying alcohol/drugs, driver’s licenses, or child labour?

ElleChaise,

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  • curiousaur,

    We should be charging parents if their kids are that bad.

    DaDragon,

    What? It is not illegal for children to access pornography. It is at best illegal for people to allow children access to pornography. (Outside of countries where pornography is banned outright)

    PriorityMotif,
    @PriorityMotif@lemmy.world avatar

    Those are crimes. I don’t think it’s a crime for a kid to look at pornography.

    ShellMonkey,
    @ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com avatar

    Fuzzy space (not that one), a lot of places it might get squished into the enabling/promoting deliqancy type rules. If you give beer/smokes to an underage kid you can be tagged for it.

    On a practical level proving any of the above is near impossible, but it might get you on the local’s radar if it keeps being accused.

    I do think we have it backwards in America where prime time crime drama is no problem but everyone freaks out over a butt cheek, but at the same time it’s not healthy to let little kids dig into some things unguided and before they’re ready.

    InEnduringGrowStrong,
    @InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Watching porn … terrorism.
    I think I’m missing a few steps here.

    PhobosAnomaly, (edited )

    I’m making the assumption that you’re not deliberately daft enough to conflate the two issues of “a cheeky tug looking at some low resolution grot” and “mass casualty attack planning”, but surely you must see the difference between harmful content and porn, and why measures should be taken (however easy to circumvent) to disrupt terrorism or other large-scale atrocities?

    DaDragon,

    Yep. I spent a couple years as a child in a country with country-wide blocks on some internet content. However, google images wasn’t blocked (duh.) Reddit wasn’t blocked (not that I knew the site at the time).

    Only thing it changed from a user-perspective was using either shitty and seedy VPN’s or simply going to more questionable sites the authority blocklist didn’t know of yet. And I’ll be honest, I doubt that sites like xnxx (back then) are much better for a developing child than the somewhat controlled sites. There’s so many niche porn sites out there that they can’t all be blocked. You only end up blocking access to sites that are the flattest for access by minors, ironically. (To be clear, I’m not saying that it’s great that minors access that content, either)

    Darkassassin07, in My "Smart"TV keeps connecting to Netflix, and i don't even have Netflix
    @Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca avatar

    Why the hell would you connect that to a network?

    A smart tv is primarily a surveillance device that also happens to display video.

    Mikelius,

    Got mine connected to the network so I can take advantage of a local install of Emby, but blocked from Internet access, and every time it makes a DNS request (still blocked, but logged), it’s added to a personal hosts file for the entire network just in case the kill switch doesn’t work for some anomalous reason

    moitoi,
    @moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Pro tip: Do the same for your printer.

    netchami,

    Super pro tip: Do the same for any device that does not absolutely need internet access. Don’t buy IoT garbage that needs to connect to some cloud server. Use local solutions like Jellyfin for media streaming, Navidrome for music, Home Assistant for home automation, etc.

    There are so many other things you can self host, Nextcloud for your files, calendars, notes and other stuff, Immich or PhotoPrism for your photos, FreshRSS for news articles and other sources that support RSS feeds, Pi-Hole or AdGuard Home for DNS. Definitely check out !selfhosted.

    Mikelius,

    This ^ I start by blocking any new device to the network, even if it needs internet access (e.g. a new mini PC or something) and monitor for odd activity. If the device needs internet activity and has shown no signs of trying to phone going to something suspicious, I grant it from there (note my devices are under constant monitoring though). If it doesn’t need access (tv, home automation, printer, vacuum, etc) it stays where it’s at.

    But yeah agreed completely. I avoid all IoT that won’t work without a third party cloud or internet access. Using Nextcloud (which does my rss feeds too), HA, pihole, and Emby (also blocked from internet access via firewall rules) for me. Also a few apps I created for myself for things where there weren’t any useful or good FOSS alternatives for.

    netchami,

    That’s great. It’s nice to see that there are other people who care about self-hosting. Any particular reason why you are still using Emby instead of Jellyfin?

    Mikelius,

    I tried Jellyfin so that I could move away from Emby, but the deal breakers for me were:

    • No way to view my music library in folders (I organize all my music by genres)
    • Terrible performance on Samsung Tizen (my primary tv)
    • Can’t stream custom music radio stations by their m3u files

    Other things that I didn’t like:

    • Doesn’t save the filters I selected when viewing the library previously
    • Doesn’t have as much working plugins on home assistant (this may have changed by now?)

    I truly do want to go to Jellyfin, but the biggest deal breaker of them all is the lack of support getting it to work on the Samsung TVs efficiently. Perhaps someday it’ll change, but at the moment, I’ll probably stick to Emby but keep an eye out on updates :)

    netchami,

    That probably won’t solve your issues, but I can tell you a little about my setup:

    • I use Navidrome for local Music streaming, it supports the Subsonic API so you will find a compatible client for it on every platform
    • I have an LG OLED “Smart” TV, but I never connect it to the network, instead I have an HTPC running Linux and Kodi that I use to access Jellyfin (that would solve your performance issue with the Jellyfin app on your “Smart” TV)

    I really hope that your issues get solved soon, I wish you good guck

    CaptPretentious,

    It’s not going to be long until we have always online DRM TVs. Where the TV will prompt you to reconnect to the internet before continues to function.

    Brkdncr, in Why you should never use Facebook or Google to log in to third party websites - what to do instead

    This is bad advice. Federated identity and oauth are great tools. You need to use the right identity provider.

    When some random website gets hacked and has its authentication database dumped your credentials won’t be in there.

    You can see what a website has access too from your identity provider.

    It’s federation. It’s a trust model. Like the fediverse.

    capital,

    What’s considered a good id provider?

    Brkdncr,

    One you have a business relationship with. You can sign up for a paid account with google or Microsoft. Use your own domain. Disable what ever adware options you’d like, and use that as your identity provider.

    While you can roll your own, many services if they even support custom saml federation only do so for enterprise customers. You’re much more likely to find useful federated services with google or MS.

    I would never recommend Facebook.

    Grunt4019,

    Advocating for using some of the biggest privacy violators to log in to all your accounts! Business relationship or not this is not good advice for your privacy.

    thesmokingman,

    The biggest reason not to use a single account like this is that you lose everything if you lose the owning account. It’s bad advice to say you should absolutely do one or the other. It’s good advice to consider the risks.

    ShortN0te,

    So you create a new email for every account you make?

    thesmokingman,

    Do I use an aliasing service that allows me to change the account emails point to? Yes. Can I access those accounts with access to my email? Yes.

    The issue here is that if you lose access to social network that logs you into those things, you lose the account. If you have an actual account, not delegated access, you can still access the account with the social account.

    I’m struggling to find some good article examples because Google is rolling out inactive account deletion and that’s polluting my search results. So go test this out yourself: go try to change the account name/email, password, or MFA for any of those accounts you use social auth for. Try figure out how you would log into without that social account. Next do the same thing with an account you don’t use social auth for.

    Pantherina,

    Same but this basically puts all the trust in your mail provider which also sucks.

    We should have logins with security keys and/or local biometric unlocking. I think that would already increase security and ease of use a lot. But these things are so expensive and not well supported yet

    thesmokingman,

    In theory, my email only serves as a way to verify me and spam me. A good account may require an email for communication and should allow that email to be changed without losing the account, in the same way the good account will let me change the password, the MFA, and ideally even the username (looking at you Steam). Same as a phone number. We’re beginning to see a move toward that flexibility. Most accounts with MFA allow it.

    soulfirethewolf,

    If you’re worried about losing access to your email, consider switching to one with custom domain and a provider that supports it.

    EngineerGaming,
    @EngineerGaming@feddit.nl avatar

    First - mail server might literally be on a box in your home under your full control. Second - if it’s not the case, you don’t need to stick to a single provider. I have mailboxes tied to different platforms on different providers, so I cannot lose all at once.

    LWD, (edited )

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  • Brkdncr,

    They handle it better and your options to respond are better.

    You can immediately invalidate all associations for instance. You can revalidate them too once your identity provider is back up and running. Okta is going through this right now I believe, but I haven’t been paying a whole lot of attention to it.

    There’s no password with federated sites. It’s certificates to prove the connection is valid, and tokens.

    The federated website could chose to save nothing about you. It would make it a lot easier for them to do so, as it means less resources to manage, and less PII to be concerned about storing.

    otter, (edited ) in A question about secure chats

    My understanding is that it IS encrypted, and its supposed to use the Signal protocol (Signal developed it and released it for others to use)

    The problems are with

    • metadata (like the other comment explained)
    • closed source, so we take their word on it for how it works. It’s possible they’re being misleading or doing something shady

    See this image from a few years ago: https://i.redd.it/0imry50rxy961.png

    Note that signal does require this, which isn’t in the chart:

    • phone number (for now)
    • last active date
    • sign up date (I think)
    pylapp,
    @pylapp@programming.dev avatar

    Interesting! Do you remember where you got this chart?

    elvith,

    These are just screenshots of the data privacy section from the Apple AppStore of each of the apps. Afaik those are mandatory & self reported by the devs of the app.

    otter, (edited )

    I think it’s from here :)

    forbes.com/…/whatsapp-beaten-by-apples-new-imessa…

    Also it does leave out some info, I edited my comment up top

    ultratiem,
    @ultratiem@lemmy.ca avatar

    iMessage definitely has more hooks in than those listed. It’s an integral Apple service that’s hooked into your deeper iCloud account. And because of that, they know a lot more than just a mere “chat” app would get access to. Which likely makes it harder to quantify.

    Moreover, Meta and Alphabet also cross reference a lot of data points from all the other sources they have (cookies, IP logs, etc.). Again making actual data points fuzzy or incomplete.

    Agent641, (edited )

    I do not consent to Signal knowing about my empty box

    otter, (edited )

    Oh also @Thisfox

    Instead of Telegram, consider one of these, it’s easier to switch to the good one now than to try and switch again later.

    www.privacyguides.org/en/real-time-communication

    Signal works great for my family

    Thisfox, (edited )

    I have been using Telegram for… A really long time. A decade? Maybe not that long. But yeah, no reason to change from what works for me. You’re right about that.

    Signal and Matrix(?) and the others all seem to be a recent development, and although I have downloaded a few, no one else has them or has heard of them, so their directories are empty as I have never found anyone who wants to connect that way. It means I don’t know how to use or teach older people how to use the software. I am trying to find a simple evidence-based way to encourage my family to change their minds, but it appears it will only make me look paranoid, so probably won’t try.

    otter, (edited )

    That’s fair enough, it’s really location based. Around where I am, telegram isn’t that popular. I’ve met a few people using Signal and I have friends/collegues pop up in the “____ has Signal” section of the app.

    We don’t really have a dominant chat app around here, there’s a good mix of messenger/instagram/iMessage, with some groups sticking to Whatsapp/WeChat/Viber.

    I am trying to find a simple evidence-based way to encourage my family to change their minds, but it appears it will only make me look paranoid

    I think part of it is because it’s hard to convince people without first explaining how things work. Not much use in worrying about it if you can’t, just look out for yourself. What you COULD do is to use the private option when you need to talk about something sensitive. If the app is installed on their phone then they’re more likely to use it, and even if not then you’re looking out for yourself

    possiblylinux127, in Plex starts narcing on its own users' anime and X-rated habits with an opt-out service, and it's going terribly

    Jellyfin is going to explode in popularity (it kind of has already)

    Wogi,

    I would love to switch to jellyfin but I can’t get the fuckin thing to work. Same with Emby. Absolutely refuses to find the server.

    Lem453,

    You install it then go to IP:8096. That doesn’t work?

    Wogi,

    No. I’ve spent hours googling my problem and trying every solution that popped up. The server is behind a router, and no amount of port forwarding and firewall permissions is getting past it for whatever reason.

    tordenflesk,

    First-time setup is best done locally

    MigratingtoLemmy,

    That’s a NAT issue. Are you able to reach anything else besides Jellyfin behind the router?

    Wogi,

    There are a few things plugged in to that router that I’ve never had an issue accessing, but they just need basic Internet access as far as I understand

    Sarmyth,

    I had a similar issue in my home where I ran a nighthawk router at the back of my house connected to the ATT router/modem at the front of the house. I let them run as separate networks for a long time, and that prevented anything not connected to the same router as the jellyfin server from seeing it.

    I recently got my act together and switched the router to “access point mode” and the house is all 1 network now. The jellyfin server is available on everything in the house as well. After the change, I felt silly I had it the other way for years because it sure helps many of the other wifi objects in my home as well.

    Wogi,

    This isn’t a wireless router. Like the other guy said, it’s probably a NAT issue.

    Sarmyth,

    I wasn’t using the wireless functions of my router either.

    AlexWIWA,

    Are you on apartment internet by chance? You’ve probably got a double NAT. In which case you’ll need a server, outside the network, that can make a tunnel to your server.

    rezz,

    I did Jellyfin right when I got into this as soon as I saw Plex require an external account.

    vithigar,

    Same. The need for an account meant I never gave Plex a second glance.

    Deiv,

    I’d love it if it had native apps on popular devices, especially on samsung TV. There are ways to set it up, but it has issues

    pineapplelover,

    Yeah I’ve been running Jellyfin for a year now and it’s amazing. The plugins automatically find metadata, cover art, and subtitles for me as soon as I upload them to my nas.

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