arstechnica.com

ioslife, to privacy in Amazon Ring stops letting police request footage in Neighbors app after outcry

So won’t ever use one!

BearOfaTime,

The problem is all our neighbors who don’t know better

SecurityPro, (edited ) to privacy in Amazon Ring stops letting police request footage in Neighbors app after outcry
@SecurityPro@lemmy.ml avatar

It didn’t grant access to video. It just allowed public safety to say “Hey, everyone in this area, we had an incident and would like video if you have it and are willing to share it.” The owner then had to manually share the video with the public safety agency in the app. The loss of this valuable tool actually harms public safety and make is more difficult and time consuming to solve crimes.

satanicllamaplaza,

Any incident is unfortunate I understand that but no singular incident is as atrocious as the prison industrial complex. America has 25% of the world’s prison population. Anything that disrupts the police’s ability to funnel more people into prison labor is a good thing. Yes those incidents suck but the larger disaster is our prison slaver and our of control police.

AllonzeeLV, (edited ) to fuck_cars in Higher Vehicle Hoods Increase Pedestrian Deaths

A couple of people that drive massive vehicles they don’t need like Escalades have told me (former practicing psychologist) over the years that they know they are bad drivers, but they want to drive a tank so they can walk away from whatever accidents they know they’ll cause.

Because practicing and improving their driving skills is apparently not on the table. The lack of empathy is unsettling. They don’t care who they kill, they just don’t want to be inconvenienced.

Usually the affluent spouse type.

FireRetardant,

I think this shows some of the bigger issues in car centric design. Even if you don’t like driving, aren’t good at it, or aren’t comfortable with it, you often have to do it anyway beceause there are no viable alternatives.

taiyang, to fuck_cars in Higher Vehicle Hoods Increase Pedestrian Deaths

What? Really? We just tell Congress, surely more data will have them regulate car size immediately. /s with a sigh.

PowerCrazy,

When a certain popular president and congress passed the bail-out of the domestic vehicle industry, written by the same in 2008 that allowed such vehicles to be more profitable then a smaller cars, he was awarded a noble prize and reelected in a landslide.

aelwero, to fuck_cars in Higher Vehicle Hoods Increase Pedestrian Deaths

Gotta have more real estate for factory lights… Starting to see trucks with eight lights on the front going down down the road.

The ironic part is that the high beams usually disable all the aux lights, so if you see a newer truck with only two lights, it’s probably got the high beams on, and if they turn it back to low beams to be “courteous”, it turns on all the others and ends up being worse than if they’d just left the fucking high beams on.

I don’t really give a shit about the penile compensation aspect of “muh bigguh truck”, but fuck your wall of lights…

DarkDiamondK, (edited )
@DarkDiamondK@lemmy.world avatar

Man, I drive a truck, 500 a month, will be paid off in less than 2 years, I get a lot of utility out of it and I got it from my brother who put some nice tires on it

But I also hate it because it’s so fuckin big, and I hate that people might think I’m a truck freak, but it’s just my only good option right now

aelwero,

I got a little jeep renegade that runs me like 350 a month…

First time I put gas in it and realized it had a 12 gallon tank, I was all like “OMG, why?!?”. Then I drove 300 miles before the light came on and It made perfect sense :)

Full tank doesn’t even get halfway to the $100 mark where you gotta reset the pump to fill it the rest of the way, ya know?

500 a month could treat you a lot better at the gas pump.

oDDmON, to publichealth in Hospitals owned by private equity are harming patients, reports find

Does this really surprise anyone?

thesporkeffect,

Still worth quantifying and having the discussion

BigTrout75, to linux in Why more PC gaming handhelds should ditch Windows for SteamOS

Are there more than just Steam Deck?

TwinTusks,
@TwinTusks@bitforged.space avatar

There are many handheld PC gaming devices, however, none can match Steam Decks’ price with its performance.

captain_aggravated,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

A bunch of them saw Valve say “We’re coming out with a gaming PC that vaguely resembles an adult Nintendo Switch” and went “uh yeah us too!” I know Asus and Lenovo have one.

Brocon,

I think he meant more consoles with SteamOS.

bjoern_tantau,
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

The next Ayaneo handheld is going to use SteamOS.

dan,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

That’s literally the second paragraph in the linked article. Do people not actually read the articles on here?

jacktherippah,

Yeah, they’re former Redditors. They don’t read past the titles.

XTornado, (edited )

To clarify, not an official Valve version, just in case somebody is wondering.

It’s HoloISO or a modified version based on it, which is a Linux distro that bring most of SteamOS to other devices (except ones with Nvidia).

null,

Is that reported somewhere? As in, we know for sure they didn’t get it from Valve?

XTornado, (edited )

Yeah AYANEO themselves confirmed it. It mentions HoloISO, although I think originally it didn’t and said SteamOS and some posts/comments etc did say otherwise due to that.

www.ayaneo.com/article/806

null,

Thanks for the link!

It’s kinda more interesting that they are leveraging HoloISO rather than it just being a straight-up partnership with Valve.

hoshikarakitaridia, to piracy in Film studios demand IP addresses of people who discussed piracy on Reddit

Literally illegal. Discussing crimes doesn’t equal crime, so there’s no reason for them to requeust IPs. And at least in the EU you aren’t even allowed to disclose information related to your person.

shalafi,

I’ve always read it that action must be taken, above and beyond speech.

Legally, a Conspiracy exists when 2 or more persons join together and form an agreement to violate the law, and then act on that agreement.

I could argue that these users collaborated to break the law and did so, but I don’t see that being argued. Fuck I know, INAL.

hoshikarakitaridia, (edited )

Well in theory you are right. And if you have evidence like in the case of the 2pac murder (he literally wrote about handing the gun over so they could kill him with it), then sure. But to get a subpoena, and let’s use me as an example, you would need to prove that I talked about specifics on how I would or will pirate a stream, and then you would need to find writing of me saying something to the effect of “I did this yesterday” or “I will do this next week” or something very specific like that.

And this is only to get the information. Then they still need to tie you to it and get enough evidence to start suing, otherwise they might not be able to prove their prima facia case.

I know it’s scary, but the truth is we have laws to protect us from government overreach and at the same time those keep companies in check as well. Let’s not make it more dramatic than it is.

Let’s also acknowledge that conspiracy is easy to say in theory and hard to prove in practice, specifically because you need to make sure you can inextricably link 2 defendant together and they are linked in the context of the same instance of a crime. And at that point no one would waste the resources for such a charge. They would rather chase the piracy websites to shut down a whole network for a bit, that’s more efficient. It’s easier to just serve the server providers a cease and desist and have be over with.

Obligatory IANAL.

spiderman,

even if they have our ip addresses, they can’t take any legal actions for discussing about piracy right?

hoshikarakitaridia, (edited )

Not unless you talk about how you will commit or have committed a specific instance of piracy. E.g. “I downloaded back to the future last night from (insert website)”. Then they have reasonable suspicion and can start to subpoena.

Obligatory IANAL. Always do research and ask in lawyer if you wanna talk specifics.

800XL,

If discussing crimes equals crime then police, CEOs, and politicians should all be in jail.

Sotuanduso,

Because they’re discussing crimes, or…?

800XL,

“Man, you know how easy it would be to get away with insider trading/misreporting earnings/reselling seized fentanyl/asking for a key piece of evidence to go missing? I have a friend/family member/employee/business contact/perp I let go that owes me a favor.”

Chobbes, (edited )

Sounds like the film studios are discussing crime 🔎.

DebatableRaccoon,

I stand by the conclusion no matter the reason at this point. Bunch of scum the lot of them

SGG,

They don’t care. It’s the film industry equivalent to the Microsoft support scammers. Get a bunch of targets, spam out hundreds of thousands of threatening emails, profit off the small percent of people who fall for it.

hoshikarakitaridia,

they don’t care

Yes they do. They are boxed in neatly in the current laws and unless you are discussing specifics about doing a crime in the past or future, they will not get that subpoena and thus they are in a catch 22.

Now if you are actively torrenting, chances are you could run into one of those fake peers that will grab your IP and they can start suing you. But other than that they would need real good evidence to subpoena.

bamboo,

Subpoenas are tools the government uses to compel a private entity to provide information. This isn’t that though, this is one private entity asking another private entity to just give them data. It’s not a legal case, and because of our non-existant privacy regulations in the US, Reddit is free to just hand over this information, or not if they want. No crime has to even be alleged, Reddit can just hand that information out.

hoshikarakitaridia,

Ok yes sorry I should have specified, what you’re saying might apply to the US.

What I said applies to the EU.

Thing is, companies need to know beforehand if they are dealing with a user from US or EU because they don’t wanna break laws when they have to deal with the court system anyway on stuff like this. So technically they could transmit information about US citizens, but in practice this is super tricky and risky.

Let’s say you got an IP. Alright you can pinpoint The location. Problem: you don’t know whether you just grabbed the target IP or an IP from a VPN or a proxy. There’s ways to obscure this so you might not even be able to find out. Now if you turn this over, there’s a small risk you just did a crime because they are spoofing their location. And if you just captured a VPN or proxy, you are now pursuing the wrong person and in EU law this won’t go over well.

So in practice there’s basically no way to do this and be sure you didn’t make a mistake, and mistakes in law are risky and costly. No company would ever take such a risk.

Now I could go into detail about all the technical details on why things work like that but it would make this twice as long.

TL;DR in theory you are right for US users, in practice there’s no way to tell and it gets risky pretty fast.

Also obligatory IANAL and always check in with a lawyer if you need specific legal advice.

bamboo,

That’s a really interesting point, has it been tested in court? The article is about US companies and US websites so I figured EU law was irrelevant, but I am curious to see if the EU can claim jurisdiction for actions foreign companies take outside the EU, regardless of if they have any official EU presence.

hoshikarakitaridia, (edited )

Well I can not give you a specific case for that, but it widely accepted that online actions against users from the EU that violate laws in the EU can get persued.

Do you remember seeing some US websites saying “we don’t service EU users at the moment”? That’s because they didn’t want to get a lawyer so they can comply with the EU GDPR back then. I assume this is because they knew there was some precedent.

If you are keen on it I can go digging for case law though.

EDIT: Nevermind I literally only had to do one Google search and here’s an official link: gdpr.eu/compliance-checklist-us-companies/

Note that one of the headings literally says “Why US companies must comply with the GDPR” and the answer is “because it is extra-territorial in scope”.

bamboo,

On that page you linked, they say “So far, the EU’s reach has not been tested, but no doubt data protection authorities are exploring their options on a case-by-case basis.” So it hasn’t really been tested yet it seems. It’s true that there are extradition treaties and interpol that aid in cross-border prosecution, but that tends to be used primarily when the alleged crime happened in the prosecuting country’s jurisdiction, or the alleged crime is handled similarly in both countries. A GDPR violation by a US company wouldn’t be considered a crime at all in the US, so it’s entirely possible that they might decline to assist in prosecution.

hoshikarakitaridia, (edited )

Ok you wound me up now so I had a little scouring of the internet.

Yes, I can not find case law of extradition of US based companies through US entities.

What I can find is a couple of cases against bigger companies that also act in the realm of the EU. Google has been fined in the Netherlands for global violations if I understand correctly. Meta has been fined even a few times for global violations, enforced in Ireland.

So yes, technically enforcement in the US is not guaranteed, but they basically can’t build up their company in the EU anymore unless they deal with it. It’s not perfect, but violations can still suck for business expansion, and that is good. and then I do have to look into the new EU data privacy laws if they changed enforcement or anything else important.

bamboo,

That makes sense. Companies with no presence in the EU can likely skirt the rules, but any large company with an EU presence will be compelled to follow them.

hoshikarakitaridia,

Yeah

Also genuinely thank you for making me look into this. It’s nice to know how it works:D

bamboo,

Glad we both leaned something :)

vrek,

I had a Microsoft support scammer once… I let him in to my system too…well not really.

I quickly spin up a quick fresh install of slack ware Linux in a virtual machine that didn’t even have x11 never mind wine installed. When it was up I told him a friend uses something called tellynet (aka telnet but I was playing dumb) to help me on the computer.

He telnetted in and could not understand why any of his malware wasn’t working…

ShepherdPie,

It’s not illegal if they ask for it and reddit gives it to them.

hoshikarakitaridia,

I could give you a full breakdown of how it works in EU, but basically there needs to be indisputable evidence that a crime occured for any party to subpoena any ISP or service provider company. Otherwise those companies will be in huge trouble. The one doing the subpoena because they wouldn’t have an order for that and if they fuck around right before suing, courts will not take kindly to that. And the other receiving the subpoena for disclosing personal information (although they’d maybe win a defense to that, because if they did their due diligence they are not supposed to tank the damages).

What I’m saying is, considering currently laws in the EU, I think we’re good. Of course IANAL so ask one if you need specific advice.

Rodeo,

Did they actually issue a subpoena though, or did they just send some emails saying “give pls”.

A subpoena is a legal document and thus there are rules that go along with it. But an email asking to be given something is not a subpoena.

iliketurtles,

Even further what’s the point? It’s been ruled (usa) that an IP address doesn’t equal a person. techspot.com/…/76190-us-court-appeals-ip-address-…

onlinepersona, to piracy in Film studios demand IP addresses of people who discussed piracy on Reddit

It would be great if piracy instances were hosted on I2P and TOR. Then these chucklefucks would have nothing.

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

Staiden,

Or maybe even a mirror so if you wanted to keep your ip hidden you could.

CosmicCleric, (edited )
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

Apology for hijacking your comment, but I wanted to ask you a question about the Creative Commons link you put at the end of your comment.

Are you doing that because of people who may use your comments to train AI reasons?

If so, do you think legally that covers it, since it’s a link, and not just the text itself?

In other words, would an AI trainer have to drill into the link before your comment is covered by that clause?

onlinepersona,

That’s a good question that I don’t have an answer to as I have no legal training. I’m assuming if you can sign a contract online where the legal text is behind a link and the main offer is what you see… maybe? Technically, it wouldn’t be too difficult to simply erase any mention of a license in a pre-cleaning phase of the data, but I don’t know if the act itself would be an even bigger indication of guilt. There would be no excuse like “oops, I just copied this data into my training set, teehee”. But as I said, not a legal expert.

If there are copyright experts that want to weigh in, I’d be interested to hear their opinion. Given that there are running, unanswered cases (most notably again Microsoft’s Copilot), and Japan on the verge of drafting into law that AI training data can ignore copyright, it’s possible even legal experts would have a hard time answer the question.

I’m putting them here just in case. Only costs me a line carriage and a Ctrl+V.

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

CosmicCleric, (edited )
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

If there are copyright experts that want to weigh in, I’d be interested to hear their opinion.

Myself as well. It’s a new frontier, legally.

I’m putting them here just in case. Only costs me a line carriage and a Ctrl+V.

Seeing that you have done that made me start to think about doing it myself, as I definitely feel there are days when I’m being shadowed by AI training mechanisms.

But if it doesn’t make any difference legally as a deterrent, then I wouldn’t bother.

onlinepersona,

But if it doesn’t make any difference legally as a deterrent, then I wouldn’t bother.

Once that’s determined, then yeah, I won’t bother either. Until then though… CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

ArmokGoB,

Even if it’s ruled illegal in the US, there’s nothing stopping AI companies from moving their operations to Japan where copyright doesn’t apply to training data.

CosmicCleric,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

It will definitely be interesting to see how all of the shakes out, legally wise.

HKayn,
@HKayn@dormi.zone avatar

What the person using those links does not realize is that a Creative Commons license relaxes restrictions rather than imposing additional ones.

Everything you create is already protected by copyright by default. If you publish an essay and don’t append any license to it, nobody may republish or remix that essay without your permission, unless an exception like fair use applies. The exact restrictions will depend on local laws.

By using a Creative Commons license, you choose to forgo some of those copyright protections. Thus the comments of the person you replied to are actually less protected than yours or mine.

razrabotka,

I should start adding that to my comments too! Buuuut…

CC BY-SA 4.0

onlinepersona,

Whatever suits your fancy.

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

wowwoweowza, to piracy in Film studios demand IP addresses of people who discussed piracy on Reddit

Is it possible a film studio, or legal agency, could set up a Lemmy Instance and then capture all our IPs?

JackbyDev,

Only if you directly use their instance.

Somethingcheezie,

Absolutely. One of the biggest child porn groups is an FBI front for this purpose. I’d google the subject for a link but umm…no

wowwoweowza,

So basically the only thing protecting our anonymity is the relative unpopularity of Lemmy?

ILikeBoobies,

The internet is at it’s worst when it’s popular

The Federation of lemmy/mastodon instances is the worst part about it

whoisearth,
@whoisearth@lemmy.ca avatar

To expand on this. If you are talking about anything online it is not private. That doesn’t matter if it’s in a WhatsApp chat, a telegram chat, a Lemmy post, a Facebook feed, etc. as soon as it hits a computer if someone wants to see it they will. There’s just hurdles to get it.

If you want anonymity stop using computers.

MxM111,

Privacy and anonymity are not the same thing.

whoisearth,
@whoisearth@lemmy.ca avatar

You’re not anonymous online either FYI.

MxM111,

Depends what and how you do it. VPN gives some level of anonymity. TOR even more so. These give you probably greater anonymity than anything else you have in offline live.

Somethingcheezie,

Ain’t this the truth.

Here’s story about a serial killer being caught by a floppy drive’s meta data.

grunge.com/…/heres-how-the-btk-killer-was-finally…

Facebones,

Few things more fun than telling people who harp about vaccines being tracking chips that if they’re worried about tracking they should ditch their smartphone, and watching them rage.

JonEFive, (edited )

You mean the always-on GPS-enabled internet-connected microphone and camera which is also likely Bluetooth and NFC beaconing and contains all of my most personal data including my name, contacts, unencrypted chats facilitated by major cell phone carriers, photos, emails, and other personal files which are also likely synced with a cloud service operated by major multi-national corporations, and also stores biometric data such as facial recognition, fingerprints, time spent sleeping, and even heart rate and number of steps taken assuming you have “fitness” features enabled?

With those last couple items, these massive companies that regularly share data with law enforcement are literally tracking your every step and nearly every beat of your heart.

Well don’t worry about that, I’ve got Express VPN.

tigeruppercut,

Detectives were able to run relatively simple tests to determine that the file had last been saved by a user named “Dennis,” and it had been printed using one of the printers at the nearby Christ Lutheran Church.

Maybe the article is badly worded, but it seems like they got metadata from the file, not the floppy disk itself.

Somethingcheezie,

It was either the FAT file or the file itself. The case is famous.

onlinepersona,

Tell me you know nothing about computers without telling me you know nothing about computers.

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

vsh,
@vsh@lemm.ee avatar

Says the guy licensing his own comments on social media.

Tell me you know nothing about copyright without telling me you know nothing about copyright.

onlinepersona,

😂 at least I’m not pretending I know anything about copyright

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

cupcakezealot,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

unless you visit the instance yourself or activitypub starts including user ips

ademir,
@ademir@lemmy.eco.br avatar

AP protocol doesn’t propagate your IP

redditReallySucks,
@redditReallySucks@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I think not as the only instance that has your ip is the one you are registered on.

wowwoweowza,

One would hope…

etrotta,
@etrotta@lemmy.eco.br avatar

I’m not sure that this is how it works in practice, but ideally: Unless you are registered in their stance / are browsing directly in their website, your client shouldn’t be making any direct requisitions to their instance, so there is nothing they can infer your IP from. (Everything you interact with is comes directly your instance - the only thing that interacts with other instances is the server) That said, it’s possible for some links to direct to the original stance, in which case your client will have to make requests directly to the original instance hosting the content… looking around in this page a bit, it looks like the Community images (banner, icon etc.) are linking directly to the original instance, so I guess that’s a little bit of a problem - but just that shouldn’t be enough information for them to connect the dots between the IP address fetching the image and the account you’re using to browse

spader312,

Don’t images also link back to the original instance?

Art3sian,
@Art3sian@lemmy.world avatar

Yup. About 7 years ago I used to darkweb pretty hard in the drug scene (I haven’t in years so have at it, Mr. FBI).

Anyway I used Reddit subs a lot for info on new markets and onions, reliable sellers, and news on exit scams etc, but I only lurked - never commented. Anyone with a brain in their head knew they were honeypots.

wowwoweowza,

Hope I didn’t fall for Any honeypots. I sometimes wonder about posts in Piracy communities.

Got_Bent, to piracy in Film studios demand IP addresses of people who discussed piracy on Reddit

Fortunately for me, I’m too old to know how to pirate even if I wanted to do so.

However, I’m sure the fine people at Broderbund would like to have a long conversation with me from way, way back in the day.

Choplifter and Karateka took up hours and hours and hours of my elementary/middle school years.

JackbyDev,

Well, if you download software like qBittorrent be sure to not accidentally download and torrents to copyrighted content.

BlackPenguins,

Or use a VPN while you do it.

SoleInvictus,
@SoleInvictus@lemmy.world avatar

If you were playing Choplifter in elementary school, you’re really not THAT old. Or you are and that makes me old too, but I’m -hypothetically- completely capable of figuring out piracy. Don’t short yourself, there’s always room on the high seas.

Got_Bent,

I think I was in fifth grade when Choplifter came out. I got that sweet sweet apple ii joystick so I could play it better than with the keyboard

CosmicCleric,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

If you were playing Choplifter in elementary school, you’re really not THAT old.

If you had to load Choplifter into your Apple II to play it with a cassette tape recorder, then yes, you are old, you are a first gen computer game player.

Reddfugee42,

Of course, knowing how to do something has nothing to do with age; there are people over the new who could teach you just fine 😅

ASeriesOfPoorChoices,

were you held back 10-20 years or so? The oldest 5th grader ever?

I’m trying to figure out how a 70+ year old was playing Karateka in school.

cupcakezealot, (edited ) to piracy in Film studios demand IP addresses of people who discussed piracy on Reddit
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

just remember to be honest with the police and give your real name, Robert’); DROP TABLE Prisoners;–

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Naughty Bobby!

redditReallySucks,
@redditReallySucks@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Please tell me this never worked for the sake of humanity

BlackPenguins, (edited )

Oh you overestimate the government. Many systems still running on XP. Our government contracts for our company software are still on versions from 13 years ago.

cupcakezealot,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

little bobby tables destroyed his schools records. :(

FlavoredButtHair, to piracy in Film studios demand IP addresses of people who discussed piracy on Reddit
@FlavoredButtHair@lemmy.world avatar

Then provide better streaming options including price and service. Piracy will always win whether they like it or not.

I’m surprised Netflix is still around at their price rate and the way they keep canceling shows. I jumped on the BF deal for Peacock, because I wasn’t gonna pay the full price.

I only have Peacock for WWE, so everything is a bonus. But not everybody is gonna pay for 7 services monthly or yearly. Either put it all under one service or understand some of us are gonna pirate.

Amazon prime is gonna start having ads this month, so people are gonna have to pay more for ad free on top of prime membership or pirate to avoid ads. Before we know, they’ll start putting ads in games while they load.

skeezix,

WWE? Bubba, it may be cheaper to simply attend some local monster truck rallies or rodeos.

FlavoredButtHair,
@FlavoredButtHair@lemmy.world avatar

Well I’m talking about the WWE monthly PPVs. But I got the $20/yr black Friday deal and then $6/mo no ads.

Flax_vert, to piracy in Film studios demand IP addresses of people who discussed piracy on Reddit

192.168.1.420

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

8.00.8.5

cupcakezealot,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

yes sir, my ip is 8.8.8.8

RacoonVegetable,

Mine is 9.9.9.9

mindbleach,

IngloriousBasterds.gif

fxt_ryknow,

Wait… Mine is 9.9.9.9, too!

IzzyJ, to piracy in Film studios demand IP addresses of people who discussed piracy on Reddit
@IzzyJ@lemmy.world avatar

They do realize IP can be changed by just resetring your router, right?

derpgon,

Not everyone. Also, they should just give them their private range IPs for the lols (192.168.0.0/16, 10.0.0.0/16 etc.).

Buck,

Your ISP will still have a log of which IP was assigned to you at any date and time

cybersandwich,

Those are notoriously shitty and unreliable.

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