Is the reasoning for the comic, like it’s cheaper for a funeral cost than someone who survives and incur cost during recovery not including the chance for a lawsuit on both scenario?
The actual reasoning by the NHTSA is that busses are statistically safer than other methods of getting to school, and that adding and requiring seatbelts reduces ridership, which pushes students to less safe ways of getting to school, and also costs money that isn’t justified by the number of lives and injuries saved.
Statistically, a human life in the US is worth about $7.5 million. So if your intervention costs $8 million and only saves one life, then you’re in the hole $500 thousand.
Underground cartoonist Dan O’Neill had an amazing comic strip in the late 1960s and early 1970s called Odd Bodkins. It started out as a gag strip, but became one of the most epic comic strip arcs of all time, starting with a magic creature in a tree, going to Mars, ending up in Hell, and other crazy adventures. At one point, they find out that cars and smog are a Martian conspiracy to colonize Earth because Martians breathe gasoline.
Anyway, this comic strip made me think of that.
I couldn’t find an image of the part where they talk about smog being a Martian conspiracy, but this comes from just afterward-
The book that’s collected in is called A Collective Unconscience of Odd Bodkins. It’s long out of print, but I highly recommend a copy. Mine is falling apart.
Oh they make it very clear what a magic cookie is earlier in the strip because it’s used for having hallucinations more than once. At one point, one of the characters eats one and another one crawls into his hallucination.
I really think the billionaires causing this shouldn’t be considered as part of ‘us’. They certainly aren’t when it comes to being taxed or being held culpable.
This is a load of shit. Why it has up votes blows my mind.
Do some reading or watching of hunter gatherer societies and you’ll see lots of group survival activities. Teamwork in hunts, in preserving food, in crafting tools, and making shelter.
If we were this self-centered, we wouldn’t have such advanced communication, which is how we were able to do all those group activities.
Survival of the fittest is survival of those that cooperate.
Say what you will about the game, but IRL does a decent job of switching up the meta on a regular basis. Though it’s pretty frustrating when you figure out a decent strat, and then next season it’s useless.
It’s a comic about cavemen. It can be entertaining and interesting without being a complete representation of early human society. That said afaik there is evidence people in prehistory killed each other a lot.
It’s normal for males, even in social species, to bully food from members weaker than them. Sharing food is a sign of accepting a lower status and avoiding conflict.
Its part of the lemmy meta-game at this point is to take a joke super seriously and go on a psudo-intellectual rant about how the contents of the joke are the sum of everything wrong with humanity. Everyone needs their 5 minutes on the high horse
I kind of read it more as the cavemen slowly coming to realize that they are both better off with mutual co-operation rather than that they are better off by simply being greedy, because the risk of the greed was too big. It was in their best self-interest to work with one another, i.e. they were both self-centered, and were still able to co-operate. Sort of some selfish gene type stuff, I guess.
It’s so funny to me (in the positive way!) that your comment actually transforms this comic into a piece of art by giving it a social commentary (and by interpreting its meaning). And by making it art, you basically give the best counterpoint against “it’s not historically accurate” .
So let me get this straight your angry that this comic about cave men learning that being selfish doesn’t work. Has people that don’t understand that being selfish doesn’t work.
They went from threatening to kill each other to sharing food, then contemplating trading more food in promise of later trades. This is a message of progress and cooperation. Extrapolating this forward, I have no doubt that this is the groundwork for the teamwork you describe. Any hesitancy along the way seems like no big deal to me.
Depends. I’m pissed off again because I’m compelled to read a book I hate for class and it’s like nails on a chalkboard. Regarding this string? I don’t know. Using coarse language and calling people idiots when they deserve it isn’t something I consider bad or regretful, though I admit I was extremely pissed off by the amount of vegans coming at me with anti-science/pseudo-science crap. Otherwise, I’m pretty chill and plan to chill more with a Stella and videogames. Thanks for asking I guess.
You’ll get through the book, just a matter of time. The Stella and video games is my go to chill out.
You have to remember that vegans feel very strongly about their position. They are derided by even their own family for their beliefs which can make a person very frustrated with the state of society. It’s hard to see things from a non meat eaters point of view but I encourage you to try. Thanks for responding and all the best.
I am pretty sure the artist is referring to the owner literally going out and buying either wet food with meat chunks or some other meal with meat directly in it, as opposed to dry food with no meat bits.
I’m aware healthy dry food contains meat. It’s fundamentally necessary for cats. I could understand vegans not wanting raw or preserved meat in their house, and I think having dry food would be an easy compromise for most vegans, but the ones who are very loving of their pet companions would keep wet food and meat treats for their cats despite it.
Quite frankly if a vegan is so bad at research that they don’t know cats need meat, I doubt they’d realize that dry food contains meat, and vice versa.
I think you are assuming something worse to be needlessly angry. I think you have an implicit bias that most vegans are idiots and that’s lead you to your assumption.
I don’t really care what people choose to eat. If you’re vegan good for you, same with vegetarian or whatever diet you prefer.
I’ve just seen stories about vegans starving animals of proper nutrients trying to prove animals can survive on plant based diets and it’s been a joke for a long time.
We have the data. This type of command-and-control systems where one person is allowed to be smart and everyone else has their ideas shot down and dignity removed results in the worst products, the lowest quality control, the slowest ability to change to new conditions, and makes the least amount of money. This structure only exists because it is the simplest to setup.
And everyone is mystified why cost disease is running rampant. Why government projects are behind schedule, over budget, and don’t work very well. My employer for example has systems that accomplish the same goals for private vs public sector. The public sector ones are crap and every time I attempt to update them slightly I am told not to by the middlemen between the government and us. Meanwhile our private sector machines continue to advance.
Food is just chemicals and it turns out it doesn’t actually matter if the chemicals have a soul attached to them or not. Personally don’t think vegans should own pets at all but the whole “they carnivores tho” is rly dumb
Couldn’t find anything backing up your claim that meat without synthetic taurine makes cats sick (which sounds like BS) and actually find some info that said that long-term affects of synthetic taurine is unknown in cats, and may not be as bioavailable for them as animal-based taurine.
Not seeing the word “synthetic” there chief. Wanna try again?
Also from your article: “Cat foods that contain high-quality animal-based protein will supply adequate levels of taurine for a normal, healthy cat.
Supplemental taurine may be added to certain cat foods, especially diets that are formulated for specific needs such as heart disease or growth and development”
Yes. I don’t trust these things because they are often wrong and almost always leave out relevant information. Just click on the link and read the context. It’s not that hard.
Vegan cat food is not just vegetables for the uninformed. It is made to have all the necessary components that a car needs in its diet, mostly it is just missing the death of an animal part.
Oh yeah? By taking care of my cat and supplying him with food that his body needs I’m an abuser? Because I buy meat based food from a company that buys their meat from a processor that buys their meat from a slaughterhouse that may abuse their animals? I don’t think that’s ironic, I think that’s a stretch.
judging by your snarky reply, i’m guessing you understand how slaughterhouses work.
in your original comment i replied to, you go to great lengths to illustrate how removed you are from the whole process and how uncertain you are that the slaughterhouses are even abusing their animals. if you know what happens in slaughter houses, how could you even entertain the possibility of one existing that doesn’t abuse their animals? they are purpose-built to do exactly that.
Killing does not equal abuse, ie torture. I have no doubt many slaughterhouses do, but that’s not my fault–its my shitty government’s fault for not protecting the animals and funding efforts to do so.
I still have to feed my cat what it needs. I’m a vegetarian, but biologically I’m not and neither is my cat. Unlike my cat, I have the option to become one voluntarily. Thus, meat is murder and yada yada but Mr. Whiskers needs his goddamn catfood.
Because it’s not needless. While I don’t eat meat, it will take centuries to eliminate it’s consumption on this planet, including for pets because of how calorie rich it is and culture. But it’s really not needless because cats need it. To ya know, live.
I’m not going to go off the cliff with you about veganism and ethics and everything else. It’s a joke of a debate because veganism is incompatible with anything but veganism. No thanks, leave me alone.
but it is needless. we as humans have no place being the caregivers of carnivorous animals, we do not NEED to do this. ideally we can transition to a world where cats and other carnivorous pets can live without human intervention, but there is a population issue there.
obviously it will take time to phase out but claiming it is necessary is just false and not a step in the right direction. i’m not telling you what to feed your cat, what to eat, etc. i can’t make you care but i can’t let pure cope like “slaughterhouses may abuse their animals” go uncorrected.
I’m. Not. Slaughtering. Anything. You want to change the system, be my guest. But it’s a matter of biology, not ethics.
Cats are fucking predators and that’s final. People like you feed newborn babies oat milk and then are shocked when it dies. Indeed, clueless. Give vegans a bad name.
There is not vegan cat food that works just fine, and you’re a fucking asshole if you force an obligate carnivore to become a vegan because of your personal human beliefs.
Cats eat no plant matter naturally. Absolutely none. If you have studies somehow proving that they can live by eating only things that they naturally never eat, feel free to educate me. But as far as I’m aware, attempting to put cats on a vegan diet is animal abuse.
Actually feeding bread or any other human food is not good for Ducks/Gease etc. So please do not feed them human food. It really makes me angry and shows only ignorance towards animals.
It doesn’t really have any nutritional value for them but it fills them up so they don’t eat as much of the things that they should be eating to get proper nutrition.
Honestly I think the hate for bread is a little out of hand. Is it nutritious? No, but it’s not poison either. As long as it’s only a small part of their diet it’s not hurting anything.
I have a pet bird and 90% of her diet is nutritionally dense foods, but she still gets nibbles of bread and tortillas and so forth because small amounts of treats are perfectly fine. Same concept.
I mean…yeah? Most people are ignorant of things like this because they don’t know any better. I can’t be particularly upset at some random park goer that doesn’t know all the nutritional needs of a duck, because why would I assume that’s knowledge they would have? Feeding ducks bread is sort-of ingrained in the public mind, it will take education and time to undo that.
I’ve seen signs up at some parks lately that explain this to people, and that’s a start, but they need to be more widespread, and it will take time.
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