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_cnt0, in no window

It’s to hide the exploitation of the little gnomes that are enslaved in there. It’s like most people enjoy a good steak, but nobody wants to see how it’s produced. If you see the latter you’re likely to become a vegan. Do you want to scrub your dishes by hand?

FlashMobOfOne, in Check out my AI generated movie poster of Custer's Revenge!
@FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world avatar

I was so ready to talk some trash, but this is pretty okay.

hoodatninja, in Why must we be done this way?
@hoodatninja@kbin.social avatar

I mean it kind of needs to be both. But it’s hard to find a compelling reason why kids need their smartphones fully accessible during class.

user224,
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Well, you can quickly search up some information. I don’t remember what it was, but I remember that once in middle school teacher said something I wasn’t quite sure about, but also I wouldn’t ask if I wasn’t more sure. So I looked it up, seeing that I was right, I asked if it rather wasn’t meant to be that other thing, he checked too and indeed he was wrong.

Also, my mind often wanders off. And it may happen that I suddenly can’t remember something. Could just be some word I could look up on my phone in less than a minute. Option B: Keep thinking about it till the rest of the class. I can’t stop thinking about that until I either remember or find it.

Next, spine. I am currently in high school. Phones are allowed here. Any time. So, I utilized my scanner and digitized one 500 or so page book I couldn’t find on the internet, and then used it as PDF instead of a physical book. It is less likely that I would forget my phone. I wish schools would have options for e-ink tablets instead of having to carry many heavy physical books. That used to be problem mostly in elementary school and middle school. Same goes for note taking.

Obviously, the last example can be easily solved by modernization.

Fast talking teachers. I can’t write that fast. I mean, I can, but then I can’t decipher my handwriting, which is already hard anyway. Voice recorder is a quick solution. Obviously, it is easier to look through notes than audio, but IT IS NOT MEANT TO BE A REPLACEMENT FOR NOTES, just a help.

But do take that with a pinch of salt. Especially in elementary school, I used to be one of those weird kids who greatly preferred being liked by the teacher over having friends. So even though I had a phone at the time, I never used it during classes because teachers disliked it.

But at least during breaks it should be allowed. Otherwise kids will find much more dangerous ways to entertain themselves.

Juno,

All this is spoken like an entitled bratty immature kid. (No offense, it’s just your age and you’ll grow out of it)

There’s a reason why you can get a ticket or be charged with distracted driving while you’re on your phone and behind the wheel of a car. IT IS A DISTRACTION. FULL STOP.

Stop lying to yourself and to us in the process.

user224,
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar
  1. Using phone while driving is much bigger issue.
  2. This phone issue has never affected me personally. I am defending OP and others.
  3. I am not talking about using the phone all the time for some stupid thing. It gives you access to a lot of information when needed.

Also if you trust kids with making life changing decisions, this is unfair.

Also sorry if I sounded as you described. I only started carrying the phone with me since I was 15. I was too worried about breaking it (it’s not cheap thing). That makes finding positive points (that would apply to younger kids) a bit harder.

Edit: Also, don’t be worried, I would almost never voice my opinions in real life.

Juno,

Spoken like an introverted someone who HAS ALREADY been affected socially in a negative way by their cell phone use.

The entitled and bratty part of your comments = when people tell me not to use my phone I simply DONT use it or bring it. What’s the problem exactly? You want access to an encyclopedic knowledge in class? You don’t have a laptop or computer in the room you can use ?

Maybe you use your phone only for the most strictly academic things, but most people don’t.

Finally, I don’t trust kids to make life changing decisions. See all the high schoolers who got suckered into a worthless degree from the University of Phoenix. It’s very fair to take the reigns from people who can’t control themselves and their impulses.

user224,
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Spoken like an introverted someone who HAS ALREADY been affected socially in a negative way by their cell phone use.

Can’t disagree with this. I got a tablet when I was 8. With unrestricted access. On the positive note, it did help me learn quite a lot of stuff. Like English.

The entitled and bratty part of your comments = when people tell me not to use my phone I simply DONT use it or bring it. What’s the problem exactly? You want access to an encyclopedic knowledge in class? You don’t have a laptop or computer in the room you can use ?

No problem, really. If someone wanted to search up something during class, teachers could just allow it, and generally they did. Except when I was in grade 9 and the school decided to prohibit even just having them at school, as if it were grenades. Some teacher would always just collect all into a bucket and return at the end of the day.
When we had free substituted classes, sometimes they would tell us something like “Sorry, I’d allow you phones now, but if I did I could have problems from it.” So clearly they would punish teachers for that. That’s just crazy.
And computers aren’t in every class. Even if they are, they might not always work. Now we use our phones even to do exams sometimes. But, yeah, school isn’t even mandatory for me anymore, so it’s already different.

Finally, I don’t trust kids to make life changing decisions. See all the high schoolers who got suckered into a worthless degree from the University of Phoenix. It’s very fair to take the reigns from people who can’t control themselves and their impulses.

I wasn’t even talking about such late decisions. For example, when I was 10 I was given the decision between going into class A or class B since I had good enough results for A. A was class for a little more talented kids. They even had some additional subjects. Well, my dad discouraged me from going to class A. He told me “There won’t be any normal kids. I’d choose B if I were you.” So I did. I regret. I could have gotten to a better school later on.
Some explanation of those classes:
A - Talented
C and D - sport classes (basketball and hockey respectively)
B - everything else

Next, when I was 14, I told my psychologist about my living conditions. Including photos of how our home looks like. She told me that she could call social services. Then asked me if I agreed. I was scared, so I said no. I regret, once again.

And something that’s there always, choosing high school when you’re 15.
I am not sure how it works across different school systems. In Slovakia, they are focused just on 1 particular field of study determining where you’ll be for the rest of your life. 3 year fields are without graduation (e.g.: various mechanics and plumbers). 4 year and 5 year fields are with graduation, meaning you can go to college/university.
I’ve had a few classmates who only chose particular field because their friends were going there too, even though they weren’t interested in it.


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Oof, sorry. I got too much off topic.

hoodatninja,
@hoodatninja@kbin.social avatar

If you want to teach kids how to look up information, you can create spaces for that. They don’t need unrestricted access to their smart phones to accomplish that throughout the day. Hell you can relax your policies as they grow up and show the maturity to handle having a smart phone in the classroom. If schools want to do that, I am all in favor of it. But they would have to start early and build a system, which is a lot to ask of already overworked educators.

systemglitch, in It ain't much, but it's honest work

Fuck you for mentioning bugals with Christmas coming up. They stopped selling them in Canada, and there is no valid replacement.

It’s a fucking tragedy.

Funny meme otherwise.

TheOakTree,

If you have any Asian/Korean markets near you, look for a chip called 꼬깔콘 (Kokkal Cone) Popping Corn chips.

They are the Korean equivalent of bugles, albeit imo a bit sweeter and less savory. Still beats not having bugles at all!

EDIT: There is a version of said chip that comes with closed triangles instead of cones… you will have to find the version with cones. It looks like this, except the original flavor has a red bag.

systemglitch,

I will look into this, thank you. I’ll make it a quest objective for my partner. She’s Chinese and loves hunting down food I want (and unlike me, loves going I to Asian markets).

TheOakTree,

Just make a good effort to locate the fish market area and keep a 10ft radius from the nearest open freezer/tank.

I am Asian, fare okay in fish markets in Asia, and still struggle with the smell of my local Asian fish market in the US.

sgbrain7, in Bed at 7 am really become cozy

Delayed Sleep Phase Syndrome 😔

danc4498,

This sounds like a fun thing to Google at 3am

sgbrain7,

Lmao

CaptainBasculin, in Obligatory "don't do this"

Note that on softer cheese, both of these would be same. If you see outer spores, that means they’ve grown too much on its inside and made mycel webs enough to contaminate it.

cicadagen, in An oldie but a goodie

How do you attach cat to the generator? I see something sussy 0-0

M137,

Are you 12 years old? I hope so for your own sake.

EmpathicVagrant,

Right? It clearly goes into the cat’s rectum for stability.

radioactiveradio,

They clearly haven’t played postal 2

xthexder,
@xthexder@l.sw0.com avatar

I don’t know what Portal 2 has to do with it, but now you’ve got me thinking about the cat in the teleporter in Half Life 2

radioactiveradio,

Postal 2 not portal. You can stick your shotgun in a cat’s anus and use it as a suppressor in postal 2. https://i.redd.it/cnlceakiqu361.jpg

xthexder,
@xthexder@l.sw0.com avatar

Ooh! My bad, I completely read it wrong, lol

Paradachshund, in Add-on: same password, same identity.

Everyone talks about password managers these days, but isn’t that telling the hackers exactly where to go to get all your passwords? Seems like a much higher chance of catastrophic failure to me if you have a single point of entry.

Fiivemacs,

I just use a password manager for my password managers password manager. 2fa on all of em. Takes me forever to login

Paradachshund,

I dunno, doesn’t sound like enough layers to me. We can go deeper

CurlyMoustache,
@CurlyMoustache@lemmy.world avatar

2FA on the 2FA

Honytawk,

You might even say … 4FA

CurlyMoustache,
@CurlyMoustache@lemmy.world avatar

FA^4

moonmeow,

Yes that’s definitely a concern to keep in mind.

The problem is that if someone doesn’t use a password manager they’re morenlikely to reuse weak ones.

Using a password manager is a better path, as long as there is awareness on how to keep it secured.

Lunachocken,

I can’t wait till passkeys are predominant

Browning,

I use the same password for every site, but I put the name of the site at the end of the password.
For example:
NotmypassB3ta.
NotmypassGoogle.
NotnypassLemmy. Etc.
I figure it might stop the most lazy of attacks.

Droechai,

I had something similar but ran into issues with sites requiring specific symbols, disallowing certain symbols and limiting lengths or similar

wewbull,

That annoys me so much. Especially when the randomly generated line noise password I’m using doesn’t happen to include one of the three punctuation characters they need to be “secure”.

lud,

It will stop a lot of attacks but if someone figures it out, you’re screwed. So I don’t recommend it.

But years ago I used the same password everywhere except with a few differences due to different requirements (like special characters) and the weakest passwords I used got leaked on pastebin (or similar). And sure enough many accounts got compromised, not a huge deal and I didn’t lose anything I cared about.

The interesting part is that no-one seemed to try the leaked password + 1234 or a capital letter in the beginning.

moonmeow,

That sounds not ya I’m sure it stops a , as long as the actual password is also strong. IMO there’s still some vulnerability. If someone finds out your password and notices thepattern ‘pass+Site’, then they mighttryyon another site.

Also why it’s a good idea to have a few emails yo use across multiple sites.

Hexarei,
@Hexarei@programming.dev avatar

Only if you’re using a third-party password manager, rather than something stored/managed locally.

Paradachshund,

Is that hard to do? And how do you access it remotely from your phone for instance?

Rodeo,

That’s the neat part, you don’t.

Security and convenience are opposites. You have to decide if you want a local-only manager that is more secure, a sync service like syncthing that you can set up yourself, or a third-party cloud app like LastPass (which has been compromised at least once that I know of).

Personally I just do all my email and banking on my desktop at home, and it’s actually only inconvenienced me a few times over the years.

itslilith,
@itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

the only thing that gets less secure is more devices potentially compromised, but the act of syncing shouldn’t make it more dangerous by itself (if using a key file or a master password too long to be reasonably cracked), right?

or am I missing something?

Paradachshund,

Sticking to desktop only wouldn’t be realistic for me unfortunately. Sounds like the solutions aren’t quite there yet for an average user.

0xD,

They are, just use a normal one (I use bitwarden) that you can access from everywhere and protect it with 2FA.

The goal is to have varied, secure passwords across everything.

Paradachshund,

I’ve heard a lot of people mention that one so I think I’ll check it out. Thanks for recommendation.

Hexarei,
@Hexarei@programming.dev avatar

I store mine in a selfhosted Nextcloud instance accessible only via a Nebula overlay network (alternative to tailscale) and it’s both convenient and secure.

itslilith,
@itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I’m using KeepassXC, which has a browser integration that is quite good, and a local database. I synchronize it to my devices (using Syncthing, so it’s p2p). The database is encrypted with a pretty good password, and a key file. the key file has never and will hopefully never be transported via internet. The database is synced to a server I’ve rented as well, but never the key.

It’s not perfect, but potential attackers would need to

a) have access to one of my daily devices (the server won’t be enough, since they need the key file)

b) crack my password

Obviously, for someone dedicated this is still quite reasonable, but then again, I don’t think that’s my threat profile. The chance of getting caught up in a larger breach is a basically zero once you use your own solution, and it should be reasonably safe, if you don’t do anything stupid.

Piemanding,

They would also need to know what you are using in the first place. Since fewer people do this it does make it a bit safer.

itslilith,
@itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Exactly. As long as you don’t have someone really determined or some three letter agency after you, it’s going to be pretty safe

Paradachshund,

Oof, I barely understand most of that so definitely over my head I think. It sounds like you’ve made a good system for yourself though, nice job!

itslilith,
@itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I could’ve phrased some things simpler, haha

But yeah, I’m quite happy with it. KeepassXC is a local password manager, and Syncthing lets you synchronize files and folders across devices, and it uses Peer-to-Peer (p2p) technology, so unlike something like Google drive you’re not relying on some could server, it just transfers between your devices directly.

It’s not plug and play to install, but not that hard either. But still, I can see that commercial options are a lot easier for many people c:

Paradachshund,

Syncthing sounds like a nice app in general. I might need to look into that.

Hexarei,
@Hexarei@programming.dev avatar

I store mine in a selfhosted Nextcloud instance, KeepassDX on Android supports accessing it directly. Works perfectly and even provides an autofill service for Android. Very easy and very convenient.

SchizoDenji,

Absolutely. LastPass and others have already had data breaches.

Nintendo,

you literally described the exact use case for password managers. in security, it’s not about IF you get breached, it’s WHEN and how to recover from it. this includes cloud password managers. you can hack all the data you want from these companies but any reputable password manager company will employ a Zero Trust model where your data is stored encrypted. they can completely upend the company and destroy their whole infrastructure, but they still can’t do shit unless they have your master pass or a time machine.

Zeroc00l,

Others?

wewbull,

The greatest threat is password databases being leaked from the services you use. Not your phone or laptop. Physical access to a device is a pretty high security bar.

If you don’t let people make notes of passwords they use one crap memorable password for everything. Let them store it, and advise them to do it somewhere encrypted. Ta da! Password manager.

gornius,

The main argument to use password managers to prevent password leaks to all of your services (that you use with the same login/email). You can’t trust any service to store your password securely, therefore you should use different ones everywhere.

Using a password manager gives you the convenience of using one, strong password that’s being used very securely, and mitigating risk of password leaks spreading further.

If you abstract it that way, it by no means eliminates the risk of someone breaking into your database, but makes it harder and from a single entry point, instead of any service that uses your password.

Plus many of those password managers give you an option to use YubiKey for additional security.

Oh and also you won’t ever need to press “forgot password” ever again due to the arbitrary requirements that your password doesn’t pass, so you modify it slightly so it would.

ebenixo, (edited ) in Shit would have gone down differently on the biggest continent, just sayin'.

Tell me you’re a white, racist bigot without telling me you’re a white, racist bigot. Edit: Oh yes downvote me that will change the fact that you’re a white, racist bigot.

Napain, in An oldie but a goodie

i sweat lemmy is just dad joke town

Masimatutu,
tacosanonymous, in Shit would have gone down differently on the biggest continent, just sayin'.

Which is exactly why I know the whole “Clintons murdering people” is a conspiracy.

Gradually_Adjusting,
@Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

Conservatives know this is a lie. They only make such accusations as it would suit them to be true, in order to justify what they plan to do.

seitanic,
@seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

What train of logic led from “Trump is still alive” to “the Clintons must be murdering people”?

EmptySlime,

I think they mean that if it were actually true and Republicans could prove it the Clintons would be dead? Not sure it’s a little hard to parse.

OhStopYellingAtMe,
@OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world avatar

I think they mean that if the Clintons were actually murderers, trump wouldn’t be alive post-coup attempt.

Hyggyldy,

I believe what they mean is “If the Clintons really are having people killed then what the fuck is Trumpleton doing still walking around?” And seriously, if anything righties cook up in their fear-addled minds was remotely true there’d be so many more dead people in both the citizenry and amongst politicians.

seitanic,
@seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

They said that they know it’s a conspiracy, which means they believe that it’s happening.

ImInLoveWithLife,

I think the word ‘conspiracy’ here is being conflated to mean ‘ridiculous, and false, conspiracy theory’. Conspiracies happen, but the word itself has the association with those who theorize and speculate on the absurd. I can say I don’t know for sure what the original commenter meant, but I think it is implied they meant they ‘know the Clinton’s murdering people isn’t true’.

OurToothbrush,

That isnt good reasoning. It is a big club and you’re not in it, Clinton and Trump knew each other.

pewgar_seemsimandroid, in Forget About The Stroganoff

do i remember this lemmy client

pewgar_seemsimandroid, in What the hell is going on at Wikipedia?

food

pewgar_seemsimandroid, in He's a Maoist now

this is why the libertarian party should have a chance

shiveyarbles, in Where is Kevin?

I love that scene… Kirk is like,“you are not my father” and then Vader is like “EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE!” and Amidala turns out to be his grandma

Karyoplasma,

“Kirk, I am your father.”

Classic goosebump moment.

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