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LemmyIsFantastic, in Recursive authentication

This is a configuration item. Nothing to do with the app. It’s a choice your company has made.

qaz,

Interesting, do you happen to know which configuration item causes this?

LemmyIsFantastic,

The one that forces you only to use ‘passwordless’ logins or forces that MFA challenge. Your admins had a choice on what they allow.

BCsven,

It seems something changed on MS end though because I have control of what MFA i use on our corporate acxount, which was setup with Yubikey, until about a month ago when this Use Your Outlook Mobile started on it’s own

LemmyIsFantastic,

🤷‍♂️ maybe it’s a bug or change

BCsven, (edited )

Whatever it is, somebody at Microsoft made a mistake; it should not prompt you for Outlook Mobile Auth code when that is the actual app you are trying to sign in to, and have no way of retrieving that code. it should have review MS app and if it is Outlook Mobile then move to the next MFA option in your security list.

LemmyIsFantastic,

I mean the error should be better, but there isn’t another method. They are turned off.

BCsven,

In this meme yeah, in my account I get the “try another way” link to let me go back to Yubikey auth option. But it shouldn’t default to Outlook auth if your are trying to sign in to Outlook, that is just lack of forethought

ParetoOptimalDev,

My admins said they see a big red “insecure” banner if they allow other 2FA apps.

LemmyIsFantastic,

I mean, unless your service lets you pick individually that usually means turning on SMS. That’s probably why they have a general policy, it’s a pain in the ass to manage multiples.

crsu, in Recursive authentication

Microsoft works

anarchrist,

Jumbo shrimp

Strawberry, in Recursive authentication

PSA, don’t use Microsoft authenticator. It’s easy to accidentally wipe your cloud backup and lose all your authenticator codes when switching devices

qaz,

Don’t worry, I’m going to keep using Bitwarden for my personal accounts.

BluDood, (edited )

Is there actually any way to export the secrets from MS authenticator? I’ve been wanting to move them to something like bitwarden but it’s gonna take ages if I have to reset all ~50

Midnight1938,

They provide “Cloud Backups”.

Take the time, move them 5 a day. Better than loosing them forever

BluDood,

Yeah I suppose that’s the best solution, I’m just a little impatient lol

Dirk,
@Dirk@lemmy.ml avatar

Cooperate forces me.

Killercat103,
@Killercat103@infosec.pub avatar

I think you can use standard TOTP regardless if you add TOTP as an option in the authentication methods on your account page. At least I did and the system has yet to complain.

PM_Your_Nudes_Please,

Nope, IT can disable third-party TOTP services, and force all employees to use the official MS Authenticator app.

Killercat103,
@Killercat103@infosec.pub avatar

Sounds like a antitrust violation imo. (Not based in knowledge of laws). In the future I hope to work in a co-op, non-profit, foss or privacy oriented bussiness or whatever. Just something I believe is beneficial to our future and not detrimental. Don’t care if I lose potential wages or job security.

Just the standard run of the mill tech company for a private owner idealizing infinite growth for investors and making software that tries taking advantage of the user or even required to use such? Not for me. (I don’t need perfection just want improvent)

Swuden,

Somehow I don’t think there’s much risk of anyone doing it willingly…

Midnight1938,

Learnt that the hard way

cyberpunk007,

Yes, and while you can move it phone to phone on iOS, you cannot on Android. So stupid.

If you are forced to use it by your company just use it for that email, nothing else. Use something like authy instead.

highenergyphysics,

If your company forced you to use mobile authentication, they should also be providing you with a device on the company plan at no cost to the employee.

In which case you should absolutely use MS Auth and give them all your delicious work data because nothing personal should be on the device anyway.

toastal,

Authy requires a phone number last I checked & is a part of a for-profit entity. TOTP management is a simple task so there is no reason not to be using something open source.

scytale,

Can you provide more info how it’s easy to accidentally wipe? I’ve only done a transfer once, but it was by installing authenticator on the new phone and logging in, then deleting the other one on the old phone after testing that the codes work.

Strawberry,

You have to begin the recovery on the new device before logging in. If you log in normally and enable cloud backup on the new device, it will simply overwrite the existing backup with a new empty one

GreenSkree,
@GreenSkree@lemmy.world avatar

That design is awful

missphant, (edited ) in Recursive authentication

Microsoft will just refuse to let me log with a third-party TOTP after setting it up. Security key is also “not supported” on Firefox even though it works for every other site.

The most info they will get is my Minecraft account and that’s already too much…

qaz,

I set it up with Bitwarden after a reset, but it showed a popup telling me to switch to MS Auth every time until one day there was no way to refuse the switch anymore.

cyberpunk007,

It’s a configurable setting on the admin side. I managed a lot of m365 tenants.

CoopaLoopa,

^ Your M365 admin needs to know where to manage the specific authentication methods and be sure to disable MS auth rollouts. By default right now, authentication rollouts are enabled on all tenants with P1 licensing or above, and it only supports the MS Authenticator app.

Once that rollout is disabled, the authentication methods your admin has made available to you will actually work properly.

aedelred, in One does not simply
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  • snekerpimp,

    Pretty sure Tolkien’s estate would own the person that did that.

    Deceptichum,
    @Deceptichum@kbin.social avatar

    Pretty sure slavery is illegal. Checkmate Tolkein.

    NotATurtle,

    Disney would disagree

    SharkEatingBreakfast,
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    Do not allow the tee shirt bots to assimilate here!!

    567PrimeMover,
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    WE ARE THE T SHIRT BOTS. REMOVE YOUR MODERATION TOOLS AND UNLOCK YOUR FORUMS. YOUR CULTURAL AND MONETARY DISTINCTIVENESS WILL BE MADE TO SERVICE US. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE

    Titou, in It's so nice to see them all growing, but this is just the truth, sorry.
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    for long i thought Voyager had performance issues but in fact it’s my instance’s fault

    covert_czar,
    @covert_czar@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Instance hosted voyager webapp?

    Titou, in How i feel on Lemmy
    @Titou@feddit.de avatar

    *rich eastern europeans

    Honytawk, in Recursive authentication

    Probably means there already is MFA setup on that account, and now you doing it a second time.

    Or you can just press the “get codes” button in the top right.

    qaz,

    The get codes button didn’t work the first time I tried it. But it did now after restarting the app a couple times. A bit finnicky but it works.

    sizing743,

    Yeah, when your setting it up there’s a button that says something like “use another authenticator app” or it might say something like “configure without notifications”.

    Those generate normal TOTP QR codes which you can use in other apps

    tory, (edited ) in God bless the imperial system and bald eagles 🦅🦅🦅🦅 (oil too)

    Kinda feels like you could make a 4 picture graph from each country with varying levels of grime.

    Except NK, they probably only have the one spotless one.

    Gradually_Adjusting, in One does not simply
    @Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

    Throwdo was famed for his mighty wee javelin

    RubberElectrons, (edited ) in God bless the imperial system and bald eagles 🦅🦅🦅🦅 (oil too)
    @RubberElectrons@lemmy.world avatar

    Having worked for the MTA on the subway system years back, I invite you all to remember that we built one of the very first subway systems in the world, definitely first in scale, knowing we’d make mistakes in implementation, along with a lot of successful ideas.

    Everyone else learns from our mistakes, we gladly hosted the engineering team from Los Angeles and Bangkok when they wanted to share notes with us.

    With almost 200miles/320km of public tracks, this is easily the most successful mass transit system internationally. "BuT gWaFiTi BaD :( "

    Give it a rest, posers.

    RememberTheApollo_, (edited )

    One could make a similar post of a clean American city and European cities with graffiti everywhere.

    Most all major cities have graffiti. I will say that I’m pretty surprised at the number of EU cities that have massive graffiti everywhere. The US has issues, but a lot of larger graffiti is limited to poorer, less-traveled or more inaccessible areas. EU? Huge graffiti right across shop fronts roll-down shutters on the Main Street. Surprising.

    c0mbatbag3l,
    @c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

    France is a shit hole compared to most US cities, and I’m VERY well traveled. Spain? Absolutely the opposite. Cleanest cities I’ve ever seen and some of the nicest architecture too.

    This crap isn’t a monolith, and the US has plenty of good mass transportation systems.

    RememberTheApollo_,

    I’ve been to parts of Spain that have graffiti. Barcelona has plenty, Madrid is spotless - of course that depends on the part of town, too.

    The point was that you can arrange pictures to look like whatever you want most of the time, not to actually criticize any one country.

    BCsven,

    Nope, first was UK with London Underground in 1863 (has 250 miles of track now) and 5th was USA is 1897.

    www.oldest.org/geography/subway-systems/

    RubberElectrons,
    @RubberElectrons@lemmy.world avatar

    Hi friend, please reread and note the caveat, “one of the very first”, which position number 5 certainly includes.

    Also, a bit childish to want to rank systems based on creation date. If you feel like “losing”, please read on:

    • NYC total system length is about 800 miles (1.1km)
    • yearly ridership: 1.8bn rides
    • If we count the el’s (elevated rapid transit, which is still running), first ride was in iirc 1868.

    But look, the important thing is that both our countries (presuming you live in the UK) have nice mass transit systems to keep cars off the roads. I look forward to visiting your country and riding its underground system at some point.

    BCsven, (edited )

    When somebody says one of the first it implies by time (and US was 30 years later. ) Thus why that link I posted rates them by creation date. If you had claimed by best subway by milage I would link to which one ranks them by order of mileage. If I feel like losing. LOL It isn’t a zero sum game we are playing, Just facts I linked. Sorry you feel so offended. Hope you have a good new year.

    RubberElectrons,
    @RubberElectrons@lemmy.world avatar

    Most people wouldn’t respond to the question, “who was here first?” with “how much time has passed since you got here?”. Right?

    BCsven,

    Yeah, by saying first it would mislead people into thinking USA were pioneers, but they were actually fifth because it took USA longer to institute. Not judging, just saying…and it makes sense because UK has been a country with cities for thousands of years, while USA is relatively new…with a slower need to get people moved

    RubberElectrons,
    @RubberElectrons@lemmy.world avatar

    I understand what you’re saying, and I don’t agree. We’ll just leave it there 😎

    qjkxbmwvz,

    Parent said “one of,” not “the very first.” Wikipedia has US with 4 out of the first 10 metro stations en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_metro_systems

    Interesting to note is that some (all?) of those early metro systems are arguably more successful than the subsequent US systems.

    BCsven,

    The dates on that list skip over the countries from other web links of same data. maybe somebody forgot to add the others to this data

    observantTrapezium, in One does not simply
    @observantTrapezium@lemmy.ca avatar

    This walk was anything but simple…

    SafCack, in God bless the imperial system and bald eagles 🦅🦅🦅🦅 (oil too)
    @SafCack@lemmy.world avatar

    I love propaganda I love propaganda I love propaganda I love propaganda

    el_bhm,

    I summon Nazi propaganda!

    Death_Equity,

    Auschwitz had a swimming pool, detainee run theater, and the detainees often played soccer matches. Curious features of a “death camp.”

    OurToothbrush, (edited )

    Yoy might want to make it clear that you’re making fun of nazi apologists

    Oh, now do Heart Mountain next!

    el_bhm,

    Here it is!

    greencactus,

    I am sorry, is that sarcasm? I can’t quite read it out from your comment.

    Death_Equity,

    They summoned Nazi propaganda.

    greencactus,

    Ah, okay - that explains it :D

    Zerush, (edited ) in God bless the imperial system and bald eagles 🦅🦅🦅🦅 (oil too)
    @Zerush@lemmy.ml avatar
    Anticorp,
    Zerush,
    @Zerush@lemmy.ml avatar

    They also use the Imperial system, because of the British occupation in the past.

    What_Religion_R_They, (edited )
    @What_Religion_R_They@hexbear.net avatar

    SPB’s stations are some of the nicest I had the pleasure of being in. The focus back when it was built really was on the people.

    pound_heap,

    St. Petersburg’s and Moscow’s old stations were built to show off superiority of communist state. That’s where you can see lots of polished stone, sculptures, giant golden light fixtures, stained glass, etc. Focus was not on the people. Then starting around 1970s the stations were built with much more utilitarian design. Modern stations built in Moscow in last decade or so look very nice though.

    NYC subway is just gross. I guess they are seriously underfunded to afford proper cleaning and renovation

    Candelestine, in Gotta stay grounded.

    I’m no fan of the French Revolution, which just opened things up for Emperor Napoleon to take the reins and conquer most of Europe, and even take a crack at fighting the Russian winter with a bunch of guys that didn’t deserve to freeze to death…

    But this one was pretty funny anyway. lol

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