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Denalduh, (edited ) in Yes. We're better than you.
pomodoro_longbreak,
@pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works avatar

It’s beautiful

staticblanket,

Maximum effect!

moktor,

I still use this one! Makes me feel like a fancy lad.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Me too. Then one day I thought about how it was just unnecessary extra steps and I stopped. I also used to do a fancy 1.

Denalduh,

Same dude. My 7s are so unfancy now.

Filthmontane,

I started using that back in middle school, too, but I never gave up.

fluke, in I can taste time
@fluke@snake.substantialplumbing.repair avatar

Bro you ate a fire starter.

icepuncher69, (edited ) in Yes. We're better than you.

Did Phineas got a piercing?

roofuskit, in Two Party System. Why.
@roofuskit@lemmy.world avatar

I see the campaign to suppress Democrat voter turnout has started.

MedicatedMaybe,

It is all over everything right now. It’s giving me PTSD from 2016. Are we voting Jill Stein again?

Kusimulkku,

If you’ll match my donation I’ll explain how Bernie can still win

balderdash9,

I’ve voted democrat for every election I can remember. And while I like to see my “team” win as much as the next guy, at some point you realize that other countries have better electoral systems in place.

Meanwhile, we’ve all acquiesced to this 2-party winner takes all bullshit.

franklin,
@franklin@lemmy.world avatar

Look I hate a two party system as much as the next person but the both sides are the same thing is just not true, don’t say it.

OrteilGenou,

The most confusing thing to me is how Democrats can have majorities in the House and POTUS and their agenda gets inched along but the second Republicans have that their agenda gets rammed through asap.

Is that a misconception? It certainly seems that Republicans make much more aggressive and active use of their power.

Test_Tickles,

Republicans have forced out anyone who doesn’t walk in lockstep with the party. They have gone as far as to run alternative Republicans in some races, causing the conservative vote to be split and forcing the incumbent Republican to lose to the Democrat. Meanwhile, Democrats will let a far-right nutter like Joe Manchin run as a Democrat because he is slightly to the left of some other even crazier bastard. Even when the Dems win a majority the Republicans do everything they can to keep elected people from being sat for as long as possible. During Obama’s term, Franken was elected, but the Republicans drug out every legal battle they could to contest his win and keep him from being seated. In the end, the Dems had an actual majority for only 4 months, and even then had to get 3 Republican votes to break the Republican filibusters.

vivadanang,

House

this is incorrect, the GOP controls the House atm. The Dems control the Senate.

Really, take time to understand how legislation is crafted in a bicameral congress, it’s worth it.

OrteilGenou,

I didn’t say they controlled the house, I described what they do when they control the house.

Do pay attention to the complexities of the English language, it’s really worth it :-P

vivadanang,

how Democrats can have majorities in the House

man I’m just reading what you wrote.

franklin, (edited )
@franklin@lemmy.world avatar

Gottem lol

goldenlocks, (edited )

They clearly meant in the past

vivadanang,

there are words and phrases which could indicate that which they chose not to use, so clearly? really?

goldenlocks,

I described what they do when they control the house

vivadanang,

poorly, maybe.

Railing5132,

If you’re referring to relatively recent events (like the first 2 years of Biden’s term) you need to look no further than Kyrsten Sienema and Joe Manchin. “Democrats” that opposed the agenda (and general Good Things™) for personal greed and lobbying interests. Biden had a majority in the house, and a hostile supreme court, which we’re going to be dealing with for a good long time that’s to McConnell’s fuckery. The defection of Sienema and Manchin made progress very difficult.

It’s also harder to get the wider variety of interests in the big tent of left to go in the same direction. Kinda like herding cats.

RichCaffeineFlavor,

What country would you point to as a good example?

balderdash9, (edited )

Sweden, Germany, Colombia, Australia, etc. Ranked/Alternative/Proportional voting. We should have multiple choices without fear of voting for less popular options being useless. With our current system we basically can’t vote for third parties.

Vqhm, (edited )

Let’s not pretend that ranked choiced voting in Oz didn’t elect Tony Abbott, the prototype for Trump’s one liners and spewing hate.

Every answer to whatever question: “Stap the boats”

Don’t get me wrong. I’m all for it. But it’s not some silver bullet that will make all the party candidates turn into Jesus.

dustyData,

It takes a while for the effects of party decentralization to take hold. The underlying party structure is at the core of two-party systems. RCV is just one incentive (a big one) to restructure parties to be more democratic and diverse, instead of coalescing into monolithic amorphous blobs. Along with Gerrymandering laws, campaign financial regulation and voter civic education. It all has to work in concert to dismantle the social control version of democracy.

RichCaffeineFlavor,

I’m skeptical of ranked choice voting being a panacea after watching Eric Adams get elected in New York

reagansrottencorpse,

Wtf NYC, electing a cop to be mayor ? Surely there were better options.

skulblaka,
@skulblaka@kbin.social avatar

Australia, Ireland, New Zealand, Malta, Northern Ireland and Scotland all have ranked choice vote. Slovenia had it previously but regressed to FPTP in 2021.

pm_me_your_quackers,

Same. Democrats are shit but I mean…fuck republicans more.

DarkGamer,
@DarkGamer@kbin.social avatar

The way to end the 2-party stranglehold is to implement RCV or similar, and the only party trying to do that is the Democrats.

Maeve,

They are? More info please.

DarkGamer,
@DarkGamer@kbin.social avatar
TokenBoomer,

Sadly, no. It benefits them to keep it the way it is.

DarkGamer, (edited )
@DarkGamer@kbin.social avatar

DC democrats do not represent Democrats nationally, but if you find that compelling, far more local Democratic groups support it:

  • Alameda County (CA) Democratic Party
  • California Democratic Party
  • Colorado Democratic Party
  • Maine Democratic Party
  • Massachusetts Democratic Party
  • Minneapolis, MN DFL Party
  • Progressive Democrats of America
  • Progressive Democrats of Los Angeles
  • San Francisco (CA) Democratic Party

Compare which cities and states have implemented RCV in the US, (mostly blue,) and which states have outright banned its use (mostly red.)

Democrats did a big push for RCV in 2019, and while the Biden administration hasn't weighed in yet, the Obama administration he served in supported it.

Maeve,

Thanks!

TokenBoomer, (edited )

The committee coordinates strategy to support Democratic Party candidates throughout the country for local, state, and national office Source.

Not to say that a grassroots movement can’t enact RCV. But as we saw with Bernie, the establishment will not give up power easily.

Maeve,

Oh. I thought we’d reached the ninth circle and hell had frozen. :-<

Doug,

They do and I’d love to have a better method available to us.

However the meme is a little off.

One party doesn’t give a fuck about you, the other actively wishes you harm and works to that end.

They’re not “my team” but they’re well past “the lesser of two evils” given the other one.

IHeartBadCode,
@IHeartBadCode@kbin.social avatar

If the duopoly of our government is enough to convince folks not to vote, they weren’t going to vote anyway and were just looking for a reason.

I don’t disagree with OP, but at the same time, we’ve only got one tool to enact change. So let’s use that tool to get things like ranked voting.

But you’re also right, plenty of folks out there telling folks to give up. All the more reason to not in my opinion.

crackajack,

Give up? More like the Republicans are grasping for straws considering how bad they have done in local and midterm elections. They could be putting propaganda to dissuade Democratic voters, which I don’t see happening anytime soon. Biden (and many Democrats) has surprisingly been more progressive for me as a leftist and many people appreciate that. My theory is that the pandemic and the government response to alleviate the costs after the lockdowns made Americans appreciate more government assistance.

Maeve,

That’sa lie. I’ve voted every election since eligible age but fuck the two majors. I’m happy to write in, but I’m not keen on Cornell anymore either so I’m about to nope, unless someone better than the status quo comes along.

roofuskit,
@roofuskit@lemmy.world avatar

The people we need most to turn out and vote this election season (18-24) are the most susceptible to this kind of campaign. And you very much can get them to vote with the right message.

surewhynotlem, in Two Party System. Why.

“first past the post” voting always devolves to a two party system. The founding fathers knew this and warned against it. Until we get ranked choice, or something similar, we’re stuck.

Pipoca,

Not quite.

FPTP always devolves into local two candidate elections.

There’s no guarantee, though, that those two parties are the same everywhere. Regional third parties can do quite well under FPTP. That particularly works for e.g. the Scottish National Party or the Bloc Quebecois.

surewhynotlem,

Yeah. That’s how Bernie keeps winning as an independent.

crackajack,

To be fair, the American Founding Fathers may not have had heard of the ranked choice voting. The idea was only just forming after the US became independent.

balderdash9,

CGP Grey video for those who want to know more

TokenBoomer,

That’s a great video.

bloopernova, in Two Party System. Why.
@bloopernova@programming.dev avatar

Because the rich have spent 2 centuries entrenching themselves in power, and literally everyone else won’t do a thing about it.

We’re all so apathetic that the impending collapse of our ecosystem is viewed with a shrug. When it should be met with torches and pitchforks in the street, and Madame Guillotine for the rich and powerful.

Nobody gives a shit because they’re all waiting for someone else to do something.

Nougat,

2 centuries forever

Cylusthevirus,
@Cylusthevirus@kbin.social avatar

Oh I'm pretty sure the rich entrenching their power goes back a wee bit longer than 2 centuries. Ask a feudal peasant.

bloopernova,
@bloopernova@programming.dev avatar

I mean in the context of the USA. But yeah you are absolutely right.

A_Filthy_Weeaboo, in Yes. We're better than you.

Damnit…take my upvote

balderdash9, in Two Party System. Why.
foggy, in Panik

Boy, I sure hope someone was fired for that blunder.

Narrrz, in the girl you like

... would smash.
(would probably then get smashed, myself, with a menhir)

someguy3, (edited ) in the girl you like

I heard people think the star wars guy has abs. So I have a poll question, do you guys call those abs?

Seraph,
@Seraph@kbin.social avatar

Yes he's just not as cut as you're expecting.

ScrollerBall,
nezbyte,

Well his name is Ben Swolo, so yes.

myster0n,

I think he does have an anti-lock braking system

someguy3,
STUPIDVIPGUY,

Absolutely. Abs do not mean a cut 6 pack.

TheBat,
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

All humans have abdominal muscles. Why would this guy be an exception?

Kolanaki, (edited ) in Yes. We're better than you.
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

I used to use the slash on 7s when I was in Jr high because it was legit and nobody did it.

But, like… Why? What purpose does it serve? It’s not like the slash through a 0 to differentiate it from an O.

kboy101222,

My 7s and 1s look too similar without it, to the point it was affecting my math grades. This was sixth grade. I’ve done it ever since

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

We always were forced to use the foot on the 1 so I never even thought of that. 😮

VikingHippie, (edited )

🎵 You used the serif! but you didn’t use no deputy!

kboy101222,

I’m now calling the line through my 7s the deputy

VikingHippie,

I wholeheartedly endorse this course of action 😁

Lorindol,

In my country the slashed 7 became mandatory in the national curriculum in the 1930’s. Our military strongly requested this in order to achieve better accuracy in artillery fire control - in those days every calculation was done by hand and mixing 1’s and 7’s could easily have deadly results.

This practice was quickly adopted by the whole population and it was a great success with no drawbacks. The slashed 7 makes it impossible to mix 1’s and 7’s, therefore it is the superior choice.

TWeaK, in the girl you like

The things men make women do to have pockets.

Decoy321, in the girl you like

Ngl I’d be delighted to have that dude as a father in law. That’s gonna be a fun time.

ininewcrow,
@ininewcrow@lemmy.ca avatar

Obelix? … the most loyal Gaul you could ever find and if you had him as a father in law it would mean you were a worthy man.

Klear,

Might come with at the cost of occasional minor cases of severe head trauma though.

Dan68, in High performance
@Dan68@lemmy.world avatar

Do they have the 3 seashells?

LifeInMultipleChoice, (edited )

One see-spray

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