Krafting, (edited )
@Krafting@lemmy.world avatar

Of course we are better than Computers! Who the hell write seven as 7 anyway

NigelFrobisher,

This is the reason why ChatGPT keeps asking people where the nuclear codes are kept.

AcornCarnage,
@AcornCarnage@lemmy.world avatar

I want to upvote, but just can’t do it.

1000002141

LogicalDrivel, (edited )
@LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz avatar

7

Its everywhere dude!

Edit: that x is meant to be + but im as lazy as i am bad at math

Sotuanduso,

57 = 12 + 45

Erase most of the 4 and you have 12 - 5 = 7

steal_your_face,
@steal_your_face@lemmy.ml avatar

The numbers mason! What do they mean?

ridethisbike,

THE NUMBERS MASON! WHAT DO THEY MEAN?!

Zangoose,
@Zangoose@lemmy.world avatar

The trend continues (no I didn’t have the patience to wait an extra hour)

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/e73504ec-a156-4f4d-bc9c-a69bc34148ed.jpeg

rostby,
Zangoose,
@Zangoose@lemmy.world avatar
rostby,

Perfect is 7 letters

Karyoplasma,

Great thumbnail for a YouTube video.

rostby,

YouTube is 7 letters

PunnyName, (edited )

Why would I put in the extra effort? How much time have I saved by not adding in that extra line in my 40+years of life?

How much more will I save in the next 40+ (less, of course, since computers will be the main source of 7s, whereas most of my 7s in the first 40 were in my youth before computers were commonplace, and I hope I don’t live that fucking long)?

snooggums,
@snooggums@kbin.social avatar

7

Kusimulkku,

Why would I put in the extra effort?

Distinguishes it better from 1. 1 and 7 can look pretty similar

Turun,

I think the argument is that if you write a 1 with a line at the bottom it is easy to confuse it with a sloppily written 7, whose bar moved down a bit.

Which invalidates the argument of the user above. (If not inverse it - a lot more numbers in life start with a 1 than with a 7)

Kusimulkku,

1 with a bar at the bottom? I honestly have never seen that in handwritten text

Turun,

Me neither, but I also don’t read a lot of handwriting from other parts of the world. But I have heard that some places teach the 1 with a horizontal bar and the 7 without one.

metaStatic,

depends if you've ever written down a password and misread a seven then you've literally wasted more time by not doing it.

though strike through zero is probably more important for that situation.

BluJay320,
@BluJay320@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Now do you misread a 7? Maybe as a T if you have particularly bad handwriting, but I can’t say I’ve ever had that issue

O and 0, on the other hand… tell me why strikethrough zero isn’t standard in text format yet

Tavarin,
@Tavarin@lemmy.ca avatar

Can be misread as a 1, especially in languages that write 1 with a more extended top bit.

BluJay320,
@BluJay320@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Ah, I always write my 1s as just a straight line

Though it does make all my 1s, capital Is, and lowercase ls look the same

ReveredOxygen,
@ReveredOxygen@sh.itjust.works avatar

well if you stroke through a zero, it’s too easy to confuse with an empty set

livus,
@livus@kbin.social avatar

@metaStatic I have found that the fastest way to parse long passwords eg software keys is if you underline all numbers as you write them down.

NaibofTabr, (edited )

ambiguity (even potential ambiguity) is a larger time waster

flerp,

Unless you have an actual need to write a lot of 7s in a row and then rush off and actually do something you otherwise wouldn’t have been able to accomplish had you omitted them, you can’t claim that as usefully saved time. The tiny fractions of time by themselves aren’t enough to do anything on their own therefore the total amount of things you have accomplished in your life would be the same whether you added the lines or not.

jmcs,

7

lugal,

7

ChaoticNeutralCzech,

⌿̅

over_clox,

VII

remotelove, (edited )
@remotelove@lemmy.ca avatar

0000 0111

txmyx,

yk, the zeros are unnecessary. It’s like 00007

Frozzie,
@Frozzie@lemmy.world avatar

🤓☝️

remotelove, (edited )
@remotelove@lemmy.ca avatar

True, but it’s an old habit to keep it at an even 8 bits and it’s a visual placeholder for me, s’all. Also, I can’t even remember the last time I worked with a nibble, even with simple MCUs.

onesh,

0b111?

ivanafterall, (edited )
@ivanafterall@kbin.social avatar

Doubly so if you're a le sir who Ø

ChaoticNeutralCzech,

𝟬̷

jawa21,

I have strong feelings about this one because that is the only reasonable way to clearly distinguish numeral from letter

callyral,
@callyral@pawb.social avatar

what about putting a dot in the zero? like in monospace fonts?

ʘ ← kinda like this but squished

exscape, (edited )
@exscape@kbin.social avatar

Well, most of the time. There's this bastard: Ø.
That's a letter, not a zero. Second-to-last letter in the Danish and Norwegian alphabets. We Swedes use Ö instead.

ReveredOxygen,
@ReveredOxygen@sh.itjust.works avatar

empty set

Erika2rsis,

If one were truly ascended, one would write 七.

tiredofsametab,

七 is for amateurs. 柒 is where it's at.

weksa,

It’s been a while for me but I’m guessing that’s the banking character for 七

tiredofsametab,

I think so. That's what I meant to search for, anyway.

ChaoticNeutralCzech, (edited )

I write numbers like my favorite fonts do. ᛐ, not ᛁ. 4, not 丩. Something like ㇋/ℨ/Ჳ, not З. And 7, not 7̵.

Sotuanduso,

I write “a” as shown here.

ChaoticNeutralCzech,

Me too

Boozilla,
@Boozilla@lemmy.world avatar

I’m a fan. I slash my zeros, too.

atomicorange,

How about your z?

pomodoro_longbreak,
@pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works avatar

God has joined the match

jarfil,

In some languages, z != ƶ = ż

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z_with_stroke

Tb0n3,

I don’t need to do that because my 7s are distinct from my 1s. That’s right. I’m better than you.

Isoprenoid,

You think your 7s are distinct from your ones.

I know that my 7s are distinct from my ones.

We are not the same.

Sotuanduso,

My 7s are distinct from my 1s because I write them like this:

The flag on the 1 stretches down to the bottom, and the 7 is crossed.

guiguinofake,

∆7

Sotuanduso,

∆7 = 0.

Solved it. Next question?

uis,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar
Sotuanduso,

What did I just watch?

Kase,

Nah man, your 1 looks exactly like a 7. And your 7 just looks like an upside down V.

/j

ininewcrow,
@ininewcrow@lemmy.ca avatar
snor10,

You’ll change your tune when your work forces you to regularly write nonsensical combinations of letters and numbers.

DragonTypeWyvern,

?

The meme is specifically calling out why the seven slash exists. It’s very possible to confuse the two with sloppy writing.

dmention7,

I think what snor is saying is that the “hatted” 1 prevents mistaking it for an I when there are numerals and letters in the same context.

RedAggroBest,

If they curved the tick instead of some angled dash nonsense there would be no mistake. Thus an angled top on a 1, rather than curved, should be a punishable offense

steal_your_face,
@steal_your_face@lemmy.ml avatar

I switched to the middle one because I couldn’t tell my sevens from my ones 😅

someguy3,

Does no one write their 1 as a simple line down?

ridethisbike,

I’m sure some do. But not everyone does. This helps avoid the confusion.

ReveredOxygen,
@ReveredOxygen@sh.itjust.works avatar

I do, but then it’s too easy to confuse with absolute value. Beats confusing it with 7 though

Heavybell,
@Heavybell@lemmy.world avatar

1 do, buy sometimes it can be important to make sure you mean I and not 1 (and definitely not l) if you’re writing a code of some kind.

jarfil, (edited )

BOO… × IOO + BS

zerofk, (edited )

Only when writing binary or truth tables.

root_beer,

I do, but dependent upon context. If there is no risk of confusion with a capital I or lower-case l (though I tend to write the latter with a slight rightward curve at the bottom), then yeah, it’s just a basic vertical line.

This is a thousand percent more than I thought I’d ever write about my penmanship. Welp.

VikingHippie,

Same here 😄

Sharkwellington,

Underline your danged ones.

get_off_the_phone,

My underlined 1s look like my 2s when I write with a marker. It’s a problem I didn’t antisipate that arose when I was trying to distinguish my 1s from my Is and ls.

Knusper,

But why not cross the seven instead?

abbotsbury,
@abbotsbury@lemmy.world avatar

I make my underline too wide which makes it unsuitable for anything but 1 by itself :(

zaphod,

But they’re not phasors.

cheeseburger,
@cheeseburger@lemmy.ca avatar

I started slashing my 7s and 0s in university; it’s just easier to distinguish them thanks to the abundance of Greek letters, symbols, and notations used in engineering. Also my bad printing was further marred by constantly nodding off while taking notes, so anything to improve clarity.

Sotuanduso,

θ

slackassassin,

Ya. Math and engineering totally ducked up my handwriting. I mean, it was already pretty bad. But all those other letters didn’t help!

Knusper,

ξ fucked me up a lot more than it probably should have…

klemptor,

In undergrad we called that tornado because of how our Math Phys professor wrote it.

The_v,

I spent 10 years in research, slashing your 7’s and 0’s is absolutely required in data keeping. Every intern/tech I had got the handwriting lesson.

I also change how they wrote capital G after too many “is that a 6 or a G” moments.

cheeseburger,
@cheeseburger@lemmy.ca avatar

Absolutely G’s and 2s!

modifier,

Exact same except I didn’t go to college and it was 100% because I couldn’t read my own writing well enough to distinguish without them.

rothaine,

All about slashing Z’s

Kolanaki, (edited )
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

I used to use the slash on 7s when I was in Jr high because it was legit and nobody did it.

But, like… Why? What purpose does it serve? It’s not like the slash through a 0 to differentiate it from an O.

kboy101222,

My 7s and 1s look too similar without it, to the point it was affecting my math grades. This was sixth grade. I’ve done it ever since

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

We always were forced to use the foot on the 1 so I never even thought of that. 😮

VikingHippie, (edited )

🎵 You used the serif! but you didn’t use no deputy!

kboy101222,

I’m now calling the line through my 7s the deputy

VikingHippie,

I wholeheartedly endorse this course of action 😁

Lorindol,

In my country the slashed 7 became mandatory in the national curriculum in the 1930’s. Our military strongly requested this in order to achieve better accuracy in artillery fire control - in those days every calculation was done by hand and mixing 1’s and 7’s could easily have deadly results.

This practice was quickly adopted by the whole population and it was a great success with no drawbacks. The slashed 7 makes it impossible to mix 1’s and 7’s, therefore it is the superior choice.

A_Filthy_Weeaboo,

Damnit…take my upvote

icepuncher69, (edited )

Did Phineas got a piercing?

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