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breakfastburrito, in peas nutz

Fun fact: he wanted to study mice breeding but the church said no because it was lewd. If he had he probably wouldn’t have figured things out since mice genetics aren’t as simple as peas.

ChaoticNeutralCzech, (edited )

He also kept bees in the monastery garden and tried to do experiments on them but it wasn’t known back then that bees mate high in the air, so his attempts to breed them were futile. Other monks were often stung or annoyed by the nasty bees so he quit beekeeping.

Source: Mathematics of Life by Ian Stewart. I also visited his museum on Mendel Square, Brno.

Once Upon a Time… The Discoverers ep. 16 also mentioned that the monks were annoyed at eating peas too often but I forgot to ask at the museum if that’s true.

SomeAmateur, (edited )

Imagine being the person in charge. You all are bound to celibacy, so you’ve seen and heard hushed tales of all kinds of …interesting side effects from living in that state for years.

This guy walks in and makes his sales pitch. He wants to keep mice in the monestary. And have them get it on. Mostly under his personal observation. For science. Totally not some odd perversion, promise.

I would have my doubts too!

Mothra,
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I’m wondering, how come studying mice breeding was considered lewd when humans had already been breeding a variety of livestock (and selecting traits at this) for thousands of years?

SlikPikker,

Organized religion isn’t always rational.

breakfastburrito,

I think it was just the idea of this friar watching mice fuck seemed pornographic in a way. I don’t think maintaining mice colony was the issue, it was the sex.

ChaoticNeutralCzech,

He was a monk, after all. Breeding mammals is not something that celibacy-bound people usually do.

Swedneck,
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presumably just status quo bias, we’ve always done this so that’s obviously fine, but this NEW thing is horrendous and must never be done

cyberic, in You heard me.
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Quick Proof: Let k be an even number, then (k +1) is odd.

(k +1) + (k+1) = k + 1 + k + 1 = 2k + 2 which will be even.

trimmerfrost,

Meow

MBM,

That’s if you add two of the same odd number. The more general proof is basically the same though: let n and m be integers, then 2n+1 and 2m+1 are odd. (2n+1) + (2m+1) = 2n + 2m + 2 = 2(n+m+1) which will be even.

Pfnic,

This is why I failed at uni. I’m struggling so hard to make sense of such proofs, even if I understand the underlying concepts… :(

bitwolf, (edited )

It helped me to lean on the different principals as an example.

The easiest being Principal of Induction. Substitute m and n with 1,3,5,7,9…

After going through a few iterations you can see if it holds up enough to keep testing with other principals. (Super simplified).

stebo02,
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Or you can just like, understand that an odd number is one more than an even number so if you add them together it’s two more than an even number, hence even.

lemmyseikai, (edited )

Which is the layman’s terms of the proof… I don’t get what your goal is.

Is it a building block for learning to read mathematical works? Yes, of course it is. Is this a ridiculous formalized statement? Yes, of course it is. But that’s the point. We need to practice the trivial to build the scaffolding to tackle the exceptional.

I am not wont to draw conclusions with minimal evidence, but your post seems like you are a malicious reductionist that may be suffering from Dunning Kruger syndrome. I apologize in advance if I have miscategorized you based on this limited sample.

Edit: I am never happy with my formatting.

stebo02,
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I just wanted to show you don’t need any mathematics to understand why this is true.

lemmyseikai,

To confirm, you are asserting that the foundation for your answer (mathematical reasoning) does not require any mathematics to understand why it is true.

It’s very dangerous to take a reductionist approach and not be aware of the baked in assumptions you are using. For example, the terms even and odd (for this problem) are well defined as concepts for integers. Which means that your hand-wave statement is true as a result of definitions that were likely created to ensure this property held true.

The notion that “I don’t need math to understand why this is true” is like saying “I made an observation on a phenomenon and I don’t need science to know it’s true.” Which, as you are hopefully aware, is again reductionist and leads to a huge distrust of science from the science illiterate.

stebo02,
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I don’t understand what you are trying to say. I just wanted to provide an easier way to reason why it is true, so that people who don’t do math as much as you do could also see the logic behind it. I don’t see how an easy to understand reasoning can be a bad thing?

kogasa,
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The proof is exactly the same though.

stebo02,
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never said it isn’t

MBM,

Definitely, that’s how I’d explain it in words

money_loo, in Seriously???

I mean it’s pretty well explained in the movie that there is actually an entire ecosystem of giant life forms living in the center of the planet, and that they sometimes accidentally find tunnels out into our world, duh! -pushes up glasses on face-

chiliedogg, (edited )

But being that deep would compound the square-cube problem.

money_loo,

You would think so intuitively, but once you pass Max q it actually reverses polarity and you become lighter!

Like putting too much air in a balloon!

Krauerking,

I can’t fucking believe they leaned into that… Like out of nowhere considering Kong island. And still haven’t brought it back up to do anything with it instead of immediately doing a journey to the center of the earth’s sun monster mash.

Artyom,

And they’re all nuclear powered.

HubertManne, in peas nutz
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Beyond his actual discovery his methodology really solidified the scientific method.

ChaoticNeutralCzech,

Yes but he likely forged some data. Statistics show a high probability of his pea counts with a clear 3:1 phenome split being too good to be true.

Source: Mathematics of Life by Ian Stewart. I also visited his museum on Mendel Square, Brno.

kadu,
@kadu@lemmy.world avatar

He also discarded a lot of data that didn’t meet his proposed patterns.

How do we know? Well, wouldn’t it be a nice coincidence if this motherfucker just casually randomly selected 13 different traits that follow simple dominance patterns - but none of the other dozens of traits that do not?

ChaoticNeutralCzech,

Yes, he did not quite follow principles of integrity. But let’s not understate the impact of his work on biology.

Evilsandwichman, in really makes you think...

Um…you can, they’re called doors

downpunxx, in Birding is Voyeurism.
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Birding is Sadism, the bird doesn't have a choice in the matter

Assman, in Birding is Voyeurism.
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Wait until OP hears about hunting game calls. “SEX! Sex over here!”

Blasts animal with a 50 cal slug

at_an_angle,

(Erm…ACKUALLY)While you can hunt with a 50-caliber. It’s usually only with a black powder rifle. Even then, I’ve seen most .50 black powder rifles use a 44 bullet with a sabbot or something similar.

That and hunting with larger calibers are usually illegal.

Assman,
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Yeah, the guy in my made up scenario was hunting during muzzle loader season

jaybone,

Are people hunting with 50 cats?

Scubus,

I’ve never seen it, but I’m sure there are some furry armies out there.

Assman,
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Yes, like a muzzle loaded rifle for deer hunting

Bunnylux, in Seriously???
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Bonk!!!

lntl, in More like guidelines

I’ve always been curious why 32 was chosen for the freezing point of water in Fahrenheit. or was there something else and did that just land at 32?

it’s kind of a mystery and i love it

zalgotext,

Fahrenheit is actually a base-ten system, where 0° was the freezing temperature of a salt/water mixture used in laboratories in the 18th century, and 100° was supposed to be a human’s blood temperature. Another convenient perk of the fahrenheit system is that most European weather occurs inside it’s 0-100 range.

Eventually Fahrenheit saw the scientific need to know the freezing and boiling point of plain water, but instead of adjusting his system, he just found those values within his system.

Ambiorickx,

The story I heard, and I don’t know if this is true or not, is that 100 isn’t just a human’s blood temperature, but specifically Mrs. Fahrenheit’s blood temperature.

Evilphd666, (edited ) in Birding is Voyeurism.
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lud,

Wtf

Evilphd666, (edited )
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lud, (edited )

How many gifs, memes and random images do you guys [hexbear users] have on speed dial?

Evilphd666,
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A shit ton that grows all the time. I can’t keep up with them and always finding new ones myself.

Ram_The_Manparts,
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I actually think it’s a couple thousand at this point lol

aport, in Birding is Voyeurism.

Broadcasting calls is kinda looked down upon in the birding community

Zorque,

Whatever you say, pervert.

aport,

Just because I like looking at breeding tits doesn’t make me a pervert 😤

D_C,

I’m no pervert. Anyways I’ve got to go, I’m going to see if I can experience a Dickcissel, then I’m off to my mates to see his Himalayan snowcock…

pruwybn,
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I learned that from Bob’s Burgers.

Alter_Id, in Seriously???
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I've been a fan of the Godzilla franchise for a long time. I'm absolutely stunned to learn that the films don't hold up to scientific scrutiny. I feel lied to, and betrayed. How could they do this‽ Everything is ruined.

Fester, in Birding is Voyeurism.

Ornithology? More like hornithology.

zepheriths, in OwO

exploded to death

M68040, (edited ) in listen, little timmy needs to learn sometime
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I have to wait six billion years for this place to get what it’s got coming?! We need to put this shit on fast forward

jadero, (edited )

(looks around)

I thought we did.

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