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Fades, in Your typesetting will look professional, they said

Thesis flashbacks

Elephant0991, in bread is metal
@Elephant0991@lemmy.bleh.au avatar

That’s like, yenocide.

dubyakay,

Guess I’m an anti-yeastite!

Alexstarfire, in bread is metal

Well, I’m disgusted. Good job.

ThunderWhiskers,
@ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world avatar

I’m just hungry.

fossilesque, in bread is metal
@fossilesque@mander.xyz avatar
tweeks, in Shame.

It feels so weird to me that the small change in degrees might actually kill a virus. I mean, wouldn’t all viruses by now have become accustomed to “warmer climates”?

Or is it a cat / mouse game, our bodies being able to heat up more and them getting more fire resistant by the year. Was a fever less hot a couple of hundred years ago?

TIMMAY,

I am not an expert but I believe the temp threshold is for when proteins denature due to the ambient heat overcoming the strength of the bonds (mostly h-bonding i believe) that hold the protein in its specific tertiary structure and when you exceed it the proteins unfold/break

TheGreenGolem,
@TheGreenGolem@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

But you do sound like an expert.

TIMMAY,

too much youtube 🤷‍♂️

NoSpotOfGround,

I read that this is a common misconception: the high heat is not enough to denature any proteins (else it would kill you too) and, what’s more surprising, it actually makes viruses/bacteria more active. But it also makes your immune system more active, with an overall win in effectiveness over the microbes, which is what makes it useful.

TIMMAY,

Interesting! Im going to have to rabbit-hole this I suppose.

Duranie,

Yep - our bodies turn the thermostat up, increasing metabolism/cellular functions, which increases body temperature. Fatigue slows us down as our bodies redirect resources towards supporting our immune systems and producing cells to fight off the infection, vs spending that energy on being mentally and physically active.

Once our bodies get a handle on things, the fever “breaks” and we start recovery and return to homeostasis.

Omega_Haxors, (edited )

It’s in the air if viruses are even alive, you’re giving them way too much agency in the matter.

jasondj,

Viruses do adapt and mutate though. Look at all the various strains of H1N1 and SARS-COV-2.

Just because they don’t reproduce without a host cell doesn’t mean evolution doesn’t happen. If a trait emerges that is beneficial to future generations, viruses carrying that trait can infect more cells and spread further.

Usually it’s evolution itself that people give too much agency to. Mutations are a crapshoot. They can be beneficial or they can cause birth defects, sterility, prevent reaching sexual maturity, or make finding a mate excessively difficult. Or all of the above.

WhiteHawk, in Shame.

“The disease can’t kill me if I kill myself first”

Dasnap,
@Dasnap@lemmy.world avatar

“This peanut won’t kill us if I completely block the airways, I think.”

XEAL,

Use this simple trick to overcome depression

pineapplelover, in Your typesetting will look professional, they said

I asked my physics professor if it was even worth learning latex if I don’t want to pursue physics and he told me not to because it would consume so much time. On the bright side, the documents would look very well formated.

abbadon420,

I rather prefer latex over word, but I’m a programmer and I like fiddling with things to make it work properly. It’s not just for scientific papers, any pdf file can benefit from latex even if it’s only for the proffessional look.

Engywuck,

I don’t fully agree with Latex being time consuming. It may be, at the beginning, but after then it avoids you a lot of annoyances that come with WYSIWYG editors.

rescue_toaster,

Physics professor here. I tell my students that i will give them unlimited help and assistance if they want to learn latex. I find that most students prefer latex once they get the hang of it.

I’m incredibly biased though. There is rarely a situation that I would prefer to use word over latex.

pineapplelover,

My prof told me it’s a huge learning curve. At first I’ll be very confused and slow at it.

rescue_toaster,

Yeah there’s definitely a learning curve. A little coding experience makes the task easier. I typically give my students a template that they put their own text into that includes a peer-reviewed journal format and an example equation, table, and figure.

There’s still the “not so short introduction to latex” out there that helped me learn the basics back in the day.

ornery_chemist, (edited ) in Cummingtonite
PoisonedPrisonPanda,

That description totally nails.

xkforce, (edited ) in Cummingtonite

Wed rather deal with the formula and/or structure itself tbh.

troyunrau,
@troyunrau@lemmy.ca avatar

Geoscientist here. I concur. The names are punny sometimes (this example in particular), but usually non-descriptive. Exceptions for the super common things (quartz, pyrite) when used in a discussion where the chemistry is irrelevant in that specific context. Conversely, we generally don’t care about the chemistry when talking about “clays” in geophysics, so defining them chemically would become noise to the reader.

Nobody, in Shame.

One of us will die, but that’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make.

originalucifer, in Shame.
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

so chemo is just fevers revenge

Sheeple, (edited )
@Sheeple@lemmy.world avatar

That’s actually exactly how chemo works. It microwaves your cells on a molecular level!

Edit: turns out I confused it with radiation therapy!

ArcticDagger,
OsrsNeedsF2P,

I think they may have been thinking of en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_therapy?

ArcticDagger,

Seeing the edit, yes, but that is also wrong. As the first line of the link says, radiation therapy uses ionizing radiation and not microwaves

It is possible to use microwaves for treating cancer (see www.bmc.org/content/microwave-ablation), but the two aforementioned methods do not use them (with the caveat that both “chemotherapy” and “radiation therapy” are very broad categories)

Sheeple, (edited )
@Sheeple@lemmy.world avatar

I used microwaving as a verb, as in cooking. English can be weird like that but I didn’t mean the literal frequency range. My bad

SirSamuel, in Probability.... Need I say more?!

I understand some of these words

Brb, gotta go eat a crayon

nova_ad_vitum, (edited )

There’s various technicalities of how and where Beyesian statistics apply to the world but I really interpreted it as meaning “if the world is ending then it doesn’t matter and if not then I’m up $50”. The Beyesian is just ruthlessly practical.

kogasa,
@kogasa@programming.dev avatar

That is definitely not the joke. The joke is that the frequentist approach gives you a clearly nonsensical conclusion, because the prior probability of the sun exploding is extremely small.

callyral, (edited )
@callyral@pawb.social avatar

Not only that, but there’s a higher chance of the detector lying than the Sun supernova-ing, so it’s probably a false positive. Yes I did just read some paragraphs from 3–4 Wikipedia articles.

subtext,
SirSamuel,

Thank you, I’ll check it out eventually

BTW they call it Peach but it tastes like candle

fckreddit, in Probability.... Need I say more?!

I remember inserting this comic in my class paper comparing frequentist and bayesian interpretations of probability during my PhD. Aah, good times.

troyunrau, in Probability.... Need I say more?!
@troyunrau@lemmy.ca avatar

Missing: any sort of physicist who will tell them both that the forward model says that the sun won’t explode for a few billion years, and so far that model hasn’t been wrong.

Moghul,

Isn’t our sun too small to explode at all? IIRC the sun will expand enough to engulf the earth’s orbit but will eventually shrink to a dwarf.

troyunrau, (edited )
@troyunrau@lemmy.ca avatar

Too small to supernova and black hole, yes. But large enough to have a decent boom. Probably at least red giant, then a nova (explosion casting off outer layers) leaving a white dwarf remnant.

If I’m around by then, my model of medical science progress is wrong ;)

E: I’m wrong. That casting off of the outer gas envelope is not a nova. It’s just a death throe of some sort.

Moghul,

Thanks for the update bro!

Neato, (edited )
@Neato@kbin.social avatar

Minor correction: in a few billion years our sun will expand into its red giant death phase.

Also: our star can't go nova by our understanding of astrophysics. If it actually can, then we might need to throw out a lot of astrophysics, including predictions on when our star will expand.

Also also: the odds of the dice giving double 6s is MUCH higher than our sun going nova at any point in time even if it could go nova and was overdue.

IsoSpandy,

I think our sun can go nova. What it can’t do is supernova based on the Chandrashekhar limit

triclops6,

That last part is what the Bayesian scientist is wagering on, it’s not missing, as op suggested

Neato,
@Neato@kbin.social avatar

Ah, gotcha. I tried learning Bayesian probability once and failed utterly. One of the only classes I just barely passed (stat was the other). My brain just barely computes it.

triclops6,

The intuition is exactly your argument:

When the machine says yes it’s either because

(1) the sun went nova (vanishingly small chance) and machine rolled truth (prob 35/36) – the joint probability of this (the product) is near zero

OR

(2) sun didn’t go nova (prob of basically one) and machine rolled lie (prob 1/36) – joint prob near 1/36

Think of joint probability as the total likelihood. It is much more likely we are in scenario 2 because the total likelihood of that event (just under 1/36) is astronomically higher than the alternative (near zero)

I’m skipping stuff but hopefully my words make clear what they math doesn’t always

steveman_ha,

That’s a solid intro! Nice.

JoBo,

That is not missing, it’s the entire fucking point of the cartoon.

DroneRights,

Missing: David Hume

Bye, in Probability.... Need I say more?!

I don’t like this comic because the frequentist statistician is operating with an effective n=1. You’d ask the detector 1000 more times, and use those results to get your answer.

marcos, (edited )

The frequentist is unable to insert pre-conceived biases. Both will converge on the real answer if they repeat the experiment enough, but the bias being what it is, the Sun may indeed go nova on the necessary time.

lseif,

sample size of 1 is usually fine. source: i surveyed 1 person

General_Effort,

Take it as a commentary on publication bias.

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