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pleb_maximus, to starwarsmemes in Qui-Gon is an absolute Menace

He didn’t steal the child, he won it fair and square in the aforementioned gambling!

DragonTypeWyvern,

It’s not cheating if they cheat first

ummthatguy, to risa in Humanity's achievement
@ummthatguy@lemmy.world avatar
ininewcrow,
@ininewcrow@lemmy.ca avatar

… and to some Christians it would be a foursome gang bang

… don’t worry I was already going to hell anyway so no need to warn me about how sacrilegious this is

AngryCommieKender,

Look up Asura-Mazda. That’s probably the “god” that formed the basis for YHWH.

ininewcrow,
@ininewcrow@lemmy.ca avatar

Zoroastrianism … one could spend a lifetime just reading about the history of all religions … it’s so much history and endlessly fascinating to me and how it’s all affected and influenced our current world.

I was raised a Roman Catholic but I don’t think I was ever religious because I always questioned everything about it … I’m also Indigenous Canadian so I have my own spirituality which is more of just my own personal views of the world we live in … now I just enjoy reading about all the long documented history of religions .

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I also am very interested in Zoroastrianism. There’s something about it, even as an atheist, that I find very appealing.

Justas,
@Justas@sh.itjust.works avatar

There are dozens of us!

ummthatguy,
@ummthatguy@lemmy.world avatar
ininewcrow,
@ininewcrow@lemmy.ca avatar
Infamousblt, to memes in Technically it's always the first in China until they get removed from the movie
@Infamousblt@hexbear.net avatar

China has gay people in movies. Where do you people even get these dumb ideas from

bobs_monkey, (edited )

-20 social credit

Edit: damn some of y’all need a hug

Frogmanfromlake,
@Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net avatar

Good bot

bobs_monkey,

Bloop

Infamousblt,
@Infamousblt@hexbear.net avatar

+20 US credit score. Congrats, you now qualify for an exploitive student loan that you won’t ever be able to repay!

Uniquitous,

Interesting comment, just as more student loan debt is being wiped off the books.

I_Has_A_Hat,

Look at you being all critical of the US and not getting arrested or killed for it. You must really love Western freedom huh?

Infamousblt,
@Infamousblt@hexbear.net avatar

Funny that you think I haven’t been arrested for protesting, because I have. So no, not really. The smell of tear gas in my neighborhood doesn’t smell very freeing to me.

WarmSoda, (edited )

What neighborhood in the Midwest was tear gassed?

WarmSoda,

Life is tough in their parents basement

Adkml,
Infamousblt,
@Infamousblt@hexbear.net avatar

That only happened because Bernie is a pinko commie who is pro China, so he runs his office like China. In fact Bernie’s office is actually inside of a Chinese embassy, which means that it’s actually part of China. We know this because nobody would EVER be arrested for protesting in the White Free Western world, so the only logical explanation is that it must be China.

usernamesaredifficul,
420blazeit69,
axont,

I’ve been arrested for protesting before. I can say all I want until I try doing something about it. That’s when the cops come out.

Apollo,

Marginally better than tanks though right?

purahna,
@purahna@lemmygrad.ml avatar

we literally have the highest per capita rate of prisoners on the planet??? you can literally look at a member of the government legal enforcement force wrong and get imprisoned??

usernamesaredifficul,

people literally say in response to police beatings that you should just obey the police. How are you free if at any moment you may be stopped and ordered to perform abitrary tasks under threat of violence

plus americans can’t even legally walk on the street

explodicle,

Now in California you can!

But, yeah… ACAB.

GarbageShoot,
420blazeit69,

This is stupid even in the world of social credit score jokes that were fresh a decade ago. Praising China (here, just saying something accurate) would increase your credit score, you dolt.

purahna,
@purahna@lemmygrad.ml avatar

absolutely innovative and pioneering humor. A stroke of genius. One of the most unique and original jokes I’ve heard in ages. You are truly a visionary.

Maoo,
@Maoo@hexbear.net avatar

-600 FICO score no home for you

Now guess which one is more real

glad_cat,

How did you post with the great firewall? That’s illegal.

Stamets,
@Stamets@startrek.website avatar

Reality.

ThereRisesARedStar,

Reality. bourgeois hegemony

Grimble,
Redcuban1959,

Where do you people even get these dumb ideas from

B-but the goverment of the USA told me that China is evil!

yesman, to lemmyshitpost in If only there was a GOOD fish with a gun to save them!

Ooooh, America bad, they’re shooting their obese healthcare again.

Jokes on you, he’s not shooting the fish, he’s shooting the woke rainbow. Get it straight.

alquicksilver,
@alquicksilver@lemmy.world avatar

And if some of the fish happen to get killed in the process, that’s just a bonus.

XEAL,

I’ve seen “joke’s on you” written dozens of times, but absolutely everybody misses the apostrophe WTF

lugal,

Jokes on you, there ain’t no apostrophe

RaoulDook,

Jokes on you, a plural amount of them, must be what they mean. Where are the rest of the jokes motherfuckers!?

nxdefiant,

Perhaps he is addressing the jokes directly.

brbposting,

That was a[n unspecified] quantity of jokes.

Like 5, 6… maybe 7!… jokes on you.

CileTheSane,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

I’ve seen “joke’s on you” written dozens of times, but absolutely everybody misses the apostrophe WTF

American education system.

Wistful, (edited ) to memes in You're tearing me apart!
@Wistful@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Oh shit!

This post actually made me look for a solution and I found one!
Solution to opening tiktoks without using tiktok app or site, not how to stop ur friends sending u garbage.

It made me think… mpv player can play basically any link you throw at it (thanks to yt-dlp), and we also have mpv on Android, so why can’t we do it there as well. And sure enough, I found this github.com/mpv-android/mpv-android/pull/58, someone baked yt-dlp in mpv for Android, making it possible to open link in mpv (share >> play in mpv)

It works for instagram and all other shit.

cor315,

Well that’s pretty cool

IndefiniteBen,

While this is useful, it could be even better! If the AndroidManifest.xml also contained support for Facebook, TikTok and Instagram links it could be set to directly open them instead needing to share it to mpv.

can,

Can’t wait to try this out. Thanks for sharing.

toothpaste_sandwich,

So do we need to download something from your link to make that work? Or is it already part of MPV?

daellat,

Gotta download the APK from the link

pacoboyd,

I have just moved to mpv from mx player due to this comment. Thanks!

misnina,
@misnina@lemmy.ml avatar

If you are sending the links through discord/chat with embed add vx in front of tiktok and it becomes playable in discord itself. (www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8b81Gu1/ -> www.vxtiktok.com/t/ZT8b81Gu1/)

In a removed move, a normal tiktok link will have a play button on the icon like it should play, but can’t. This one actually will.

Copythis, to memes in They shipped him in from Italy

I always thought this too until I had the opportunity to go into an Olive Garden kitchen.

The chef back there was very, very proud of the work they put into the food there. Almost everything is hand made. It was really nice to see.

thisisnotgoingwell,

Olive garden is always a great experience for me. Never had the impression that the food was microwaved. Probably best not to pay a meme that much attention

Sharpiemarker, (edited )

You mean he actually boiled the pasta and tossed the salad?

I’m exaggerating but when you think about the things that Olive Garden are known for (unlimited bread sticks, and their soup and salad deals), they’re all essentially premade. I don’t know many people who go there for the steak, for example.

corsicanguppy,

Prep-cooks aren’t a new thing.

Vent,

Steak is basic cooking, lol. It’s literally one ingredient and some seasoning.

Ibex0, (edited )

I was not expecting this.

aeronmelon, to memes in Old-school meme

Later in life, after losing his hair, he went by the name Professor Farnsworth.

Orbituary,
@Orbituary@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah. Pretty sure this is just two new memes pasted together. Not an old school one.

aeronmelon,

What would you have me do about it?

Blahaj_Blast, to comicstrips in Christmas in Gotham [Safely Endangered]
@Blahaj_Blast@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Never start with the head, the victim gets all fuzzy. He can’t feel the next- [CRACK]

MoonMoon,

See?

someguy3, to lemmyshitpost in A minor oopsie

So what’s the effect? Hearing loss?

wesker,
@wesker@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Yes, we won’t be hearing from them again.

marmotworks,

On account of being dead? Yeah.

Sianna,

ded

Fosheze,

Yes. But in the same way being hit by a train causes hearing loss.

JaymesRS, (edited )
tourist,
@tourist@lemmy.world avatar

So about half the volume of my upstairs neighbours

Valmond,

Lucky bastard.

treesquid,

Minotaurs?

Witchfire,
@Witchfire@lemmy.world avatar

…at 4am on a Wednesday

chicken,

In the Navy’s latest environmental impact statement draft, they admit that the sonar exercises planned for 2014-2018 may unintentionally “harm marine mammals 2.8 million times over five years.” This estimate is up about 150,000 instances a year from their EIS statement of 2009-2013. Included in this estimate are two million incidents of “temporary hearing loss,” and 2,000 are targeted for permanent hearing loss.

So is that how it went? How have things gone in the ten years since this article was written?

lightnsfw,

We’ve been heating up the oceans so all the marine life will die and not have to worry about sonar anymore.

Enzy,

That’s one of the symptoms, yes.

Saprophyte,
@Saprophyte@lemmy.world avatar

There are no noise-cancelling headphones to stop the U.S. Navy’s 235-decibel pressure waves of unbearable pinging and metallic shrieking. At 200 Db, the vibrations can rupture your lungs, and above 210 Db, the lethal noise can bore straight through your brain until it hemorrhages that delicate tissue. If you’re not deaf after this devastating sonar blast, you’re dead.

www.huffpost.com/…/killing-with-sound_b_2744864

Starglasses,

So what about fish and sea life?

fox2263,

Well…I imagine they kind of disappear into a mist

dalekcaan,

About the same.

It’s cool though. The navy says they don’t mind.

MNByChoice,

Yeah. I had presumed the sonar was just annoying, not body destroying.

18107,

And people wonder why whales beach themselves.

ServeTheBeam,

I thought that was because of the windmills?

GBU_28,

Actually it’s due to shared gender bathroom 🤗

TexMexBazooka, (edited )

Who fucking cares?

-USMIC

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar
JackFrostNCola,
Khrux,

Fun fact, sperm whales can generate a sonar click at 230dB. Decibels are a logarithmic scale so increasing by only a few dB is basically double the volume.

A sperm whale may swim past you, think you’re interesting and give a little click to scan you, and basically stun or kill you instantly.

force, (edited )

i believe it’s 6 dB is 2x the sound pressure and 10 dB is 2x the perceived volume?

Agent_Engelbert,

Wow. For real ???

You learn something new everyday.

But yeah, I never saw divers getting stunned/ killed even when diving near whales.

It could be that it never happened, but that’s like such a high variance to have never happened.

StupidBrotherInLaw, (edited ) to lemmybewholesome in Like a time capsule

Aww shit. I have a health condition so my wife is extremely likely to outlive me, probably by decades. I should start recording videos for her.

Or should I? I want her to move on after I go and I don’t want to interfere with that. Dying sucks.

thegiddystitcher,
@thegiddystitcher@lemm.ee avatar

The answer is yes you absolutely should

funkless_eck,

gotta make the most cringe content you can, make it a real test so she has to really miss you to watch them

LeafOnTheWind,

Just a recording of you singing baby shark.

StupidBrotherInLaw, (edited )

This will be my first video. I prank her all the time, it’s in character. I’ll even wear my adult sized Teletubby costume. No one ever expects Tinky Winky.

LetKCater2U,

I’d also like a copy of that please!

cybersandwich,

My dad passed away two years ago and I wish I had followed through with doing video interviews of him. Asking him questions about life, having him tell the same stories he’d already told 100x. I wish I had those.

I am already starting to do that for my daughter who is only 9 months old.

troglodytis,

She loves you. She will always love you. The other people in her life that love her will need to love her loving you. She’ll move on, but she’ll always carry you with her. Make the videos

StupidBrotherInLaw,

Dammit, now I need to explain to the other people I’m at dinner with why I’m crying. Thanks, you’re right and I needed to hear this.

Mataresian,

She can always decide to not listen to them. However, when you don’t make them she would have no other option. I think the recordings would be a very nice idea. Maybe even video.

StupidBrotherInLaw, (edited )

I think video is a great idea. I’m going to do one a day, just about what has been going on, five minutes or less. I also need to start keeping a dairy diary, so this will knock out both at once.

Edit: I am not a rancher.

nullPointer, to programmer_humor in Programmer tries to explain binary search to the police

just tell them there is a black man at the moment of theft, they will get on it lickety split!

Cannacheques,

Sad meme very relevant

Grimble,
  • Binary search: O(log(n))
  • Sequential search: O(n)
  • Linear search: O(n)
  • Police ethnicity database search: O(0)
ScrewdriverFactoryFactoryProvider,
@ScrewdriverFactoryFactoryProvider@hexbear.net avatar

No need to search when you already have someone you wanna pin it on.

Dudewitbow, to memes in I've been robbed!

The result of marketing pushing base 10 numbers on an archiecture that is base 2. Fundamentally is caused by the difference of 10³ (1000) vs 2¹⁰ (1024).

Actual storage size of what you will buy is Amount = initial size * (1000/1024)^n where n is the power of 10^n for the magnitude (e.g kilo = 3, mega = 6, giga = 9, tera = 12)

barsoap,

Also minus metadata overhead.

NikkiDimes,

Yup, damn formatting also gonna take a chunk

Chakravanti, (edited )

Fact: This truth is intentionally manipulation.

OP is right with an applicable staturing the pic.

Solution: Sue the fuck out of all of them. Especially Samsung. Fuck Samsung everything.

Dudewitbow,

its correct, the final size you see in the OS is not kilo/giga/terabytes but kibi/gibi/tebibytes. the problem is less of the drive and more of how the OS displays the value. the OS CHOOSES to display it in base 2, but drives are sold in base 10, and what is given is actually correct. Windows, being the most used one, is the most guilty of starting the trend of naming what should be kibi/gibi/tebibytes as kilo/giga/terabytes. Essentially, 2 Tera Bytes ~= 1.82 Tebibytes. many OS’ display the latter but use the former naming

barsoap,

Base 2 based displays and calling them kilobytes date back to the 1960s. Way before the byte was standardised to be eight bits (and according to network engineers it still isn’t you still see new RFCs using “octet”).

Granted though harddisks seem to have been base-10 based from the very beginning, with the IBM 350 storing five million 6-bit bytes. Window’s history isn’t in that kind of hardware though but CP/M and DOS, and (page 10):

Displays the filename and size in kilobytes (1024 bytes).

Then, speaking of operating systems with actual harddrive support: In Unix ls -lh seems to be universally base-2 based (GNU has –si to switch which I think noone ever uses). -h (and -k) are non-standard, you won’t find them in POSIX (default is to print raw number of bytes, no units).

Chakravanti,

Technically correct with numbers is the only way to ever be correct, let alone right.

triclops6,

This is intentional, they could offer proper TiB storage but Apple started doing this decades ago just to shave pennies and now it’s caught on

Transporter_Room_3, to lemmybewholesome in Unstoppable grandma
@Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website avatar

My grandmother once had my sister and I over for dinner.

She made herself a tiny portion of something and set out a handful of radishes, most of which she ate herself before offering us some.

That was the one and only time she “made” anything for us.

I was 7.

She was not a kind person, she complained about the leaves in her yard constantly to the point where the rest of the family has a running joke about the trees conspiring against her.

She died two years ago and I still miss her. For all her faults it was clear she loved all of us, any time we were on the phone with grandpa she would yell across the house who are you talking to, and when he yelled back she would come in to say hi and ask how we were doing. Never called us herself though.

Weird relationship. Not sure why I’m rambling about this. Thanks for reading if you did. Cheers

MiltownClowns, (edited )

I have one grandma who makes everybody food and another who can’t cook to save her life, once asked me to drown a yipping dog, and told me I was going to hell because I’m an atheist. I love both of them but not nearly as much as they both loved me. Not all grandmas love the same way, but some can’t love at all. I’m thankful and I’m glad you are too.

The_Picard_Maneuver,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website avatar

Major props to you for still finding love and compassion despite her flaws.

ImplyingImplications, to comicstrips in Yugioh Master Duel [MrLovenstein]

This also works for Magic The Gathering.

n3m37h,

Fucking MTG

morphballganon,

Try a non-eternal format. I like modern; turn 1 wins are super unreliable.

DragonTypeWyvern,

If they are possible at all there’s a problem.

morphballganon,

If a deck lets you win on turn 1 6.25% of the time, and completely flop over 50% of the time, you’ll lose often enough that your deck isn’t going to win any tournaments. That’s not an oppressive force in a metagame.

But if even that is too much for certain players, they can just avoid Vintage. There are non-eternal formats with no t1 wins. Pioneer, Standard etc have no such t1 wins.

HobbitFoot,

Generally for certain decks that have the value of a car and only in certain formats.

Yeah, there are turn one kill decks, but they generally don’t exist in the formats most players play and WotC will ban cards if they do show up.

dual_sport_dork,
@dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah. I’ll just go ahead and leave this here:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/d3d3a12c-d263-4e50-8452-81553c5fac13.jpeg

A classic.

morphballganon,

For the uninitiated, the likelihood of being able to pull off a 4-card combo on turn 1 is very small, even in unrestricted formats. Decks that rely on this interaction either include ways to win on later turns or are unreliable.

ArmokGoB,

Also, isn’t a black lotus worth tens of thousands of dollars?

onion,

Not if you have a printer

morphballganon,

A mint Alpha Black Lotus would be in the hundreds of thousands.

A moderately played Unlimited Black Lotus would be in the thousands.

Moobythegoldensock,

Back in the day decks had a 40 card minimum and no max copies of cards. There were decks that were just mountains and lightning bolts. So getting a combo like this out wasn’t completely unheard of.

Nowadays, combos need lots of drawing and fishing to hit in the first couple turns.

dual_sport_dork,
@dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world avatar

Confirm, and I am guilty of having owned, and currently owning, functional decks that basically just boil down to mountains and lightning bolts. The “new” (decades old) rules forced me to diversify a bit, but Fallen Empires brought us the gift of the Goblin Grenade, so it’s all gravy for me. Four goblins and four Goblin Grenades is a win, even if you don’t attack with any of the goblins. You can spice things up in the interim with Lightning Bolts if you like.

dual_sport_dork,
@dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world avatar

The typical variant I’ve seen is using a bunch more Moxes and Lotuses and so forth to play Ancestral Recalls/Timetwisters or Timewalks or similar to either pull the right cards from your deck or skip your opponent’s turn until you draw them naturally. And doing such a thing nowadays is… expensive.

Also, if you shoot your load and your opponent has a way to counter your fireball, now you’re standing there with your pants down around your ankles and 1 health. Ready to be done in by a single goblin, or possibly a stiff breeze.

Even so, in modern formats where Black Lotus, Moxes, and Channel are not outright banned you can only have one of each per deck anyhow. So the notion of having 4 of each to pad your deck out to the minimum 60 cards likewise goes out the window. Still, having this spread available is sort of like having a nuke in your suitcase. You’re never actually going to set it off, but it’s nice sometimes to let everyone around you know that you could if you really felt like it.

I also have an Enduring Renewal based infinite mana deck that is similarly impractical, but no less spectacular when you actually manage to pull off its core combo. Your ability to put your opponent into the negatives – or yourself into an insurmountably gargantuan health pool via Alabaster Potions – is limited only by your opponent’s patience and lack of conceding on the spot in disgust as you shuffle your Ornithopter back and forth and back and forth…

I have a more straighforward lightning bolt/shock/goblin grenade deck that is less exotic, but considerably more reliable. The explosions it makes are smaller, but everyone explodes sooner or later.

morphballganon,

Try a non-eternal format. I like modern; turn 1 wins are super unreliable.

GlitterInfection,

I love drafting MtG. But I hate playing with the resulting deck.

Sol0WingPixy,

I’d disagree. I keep up with both MtG and YGO (MtG as a game I like and YGO as a horrified observer), and the two games are not even close to equivalent here.

In YGO’s one official format, the oft-quoted statistic is that games don’t usually last more than 3 turns - those 3 turns being half the length of how MtG usually measures turns - Starting Player, Non-Starting Player, Starting Player, game. The interaction relies on your opponent having the right disruptive tool to slow down your combo.

For MtG, the only formats that are really like that are Legacy and Vintage, formats that are generally incredibly expensive to play in paper and definitely not where new players are gonna start. Even Modern, the next oldest and thus powerful format, has games that typically last at absolute least 3 turns for each player (twice the YGO standard) and most of the time last much longer. Then Standard, where new players are expected to start, has so much less combo “I win the game now” potential specifically because it’s a bad feeling for new players and the creators don’t want the format to be that fast. I can’t find a great source on it, but winning a Standard game anytime before turn 5 is notable, and usually means your opponent didn’t do anything.

Gabu,

Sure, it’s 3 turns, but each turn lasts 10x as long as in Magic, so it evens out. Also, it’s a pretty big exaggeration - the meme is “turn 3 dead”, but you can usually last a couple more and hope to get some kind of out.

Sheeple,
@Sheeple@lemmy.world avatar

3 turns that are only so long because you’re playing spider solitaire with yourself.

mcmoor,

And with hand traps those turn become “our turn” anyway, making a still super interactive game equivalent to 15 turns. At least, theoretically.

Tankiedesantski, to memes in Technically it's always the first in China until they get removed from the movie

“We, the enlightened and human rights respecting West, did an about face on LGBT people having rights about 10 years ago after many centuries of violent persecution and suppression.

Now you, the country who’s main ethnic group derives it’s demonym from a dynast of bisexual emperors, and which has never had large scale and systematic persecution or suppression of gay people, must depict gay people in media exactly as we do.

If you do not, we will call you barbarians.”

dokapuff,

Can gay people get married in China?

autismdragon,
@autismdragon@hexbear.net avatar

Nope! And thats bad. But marriage equality is not the only measure of queer rights. Queer people in China are largely left alone and not hate crimed and speaking as a queer I’d rather get to be alive than get married.

China absolutely needs to work on its legal rights for queer people. I’m not saying otherwise. But you are still looking at the issue through a very western lense, and a hypocritical one considering how recently queer rights have even been begun to be accepted in the west. And how fast we are moving backwards on them in America especially. And how bad issues like homeless queer youth still are.

dokapuff,

Why is it hypocritical? I’ve supported the LGBT movement for literally as long as I can remember. It’s somehow my fault that other people haven’t realized that gay people are still people?

Have you ever criticized someone for looking at the issue through a very eastern lense or is that reserved for people you deem as western-enough?

autismdragon,
@autismdragon@hexbear.net avatar

I’m not a Christian, but one of the things I’ve always felt Jesus was really on point on was when he said “take the beam out of your own eye before taking the speck of dust from your neighbors”.

I think this can be applied to geopolitics very well, even if you think the other country has the beam and you have the speck of dust, its still advisable to focus on your own countries problems. Its hypocritical not on a personal level, but on a national level. To use a non Christian phrase, its throwing stones in a glass house. Idk what specific country you’re from, but unless its China you can’t do much about China’s issues with queer rights, so why focus on them? Focus on wherever you’re from.

Like literally the only thing a Westerner can “do about” Chinese queer rights issues is encourage war/regime change, which you should know does not have a good record of working out for the effected country. And thats the problem we communists have when people start talking about China’s problem. We know our countries want regime change in China, so we see this shit as supporting of that. Its basically a threat.

Have you ever criticized someone for looking at the issue through a very eastern lense or is that reserved for people you deem as western-enough?

No, I haven’t, because I’m a westerner lol. Like I said, I focus my criticisms at home.

dokapuff,

I want good for all people on this Earth. Like, I wouldn’t ignore verbal abuse just because there’s physical assault still happening, y’know? I’m not a politician or even a particularly smart guy. I know my original post came off bad, sorry.

ThereRisesARedStar,

Well, what happens when the guy doing physical assault wants you on his side vs the verbal abuse guy? Thats the US running propaganda on China.

GarbageShoot,

Can a gay kid who is kicked out of their home find housing in the US?

areyouevenreal,

Wouldn’t that also apply to a gay kid in china? I somehow doubt they just give away free housing to people.

GarbageShoot,

China is not perfect on the matter of right-to-housing, but it is very good. Everyone has a right to have some kind of housing unit, though they don’t necessarily (and in fact, I think usually don’t) “own” it and family homes are counted if the kid isn’t formally disowned. A very large number of the homeless population in China are “itinerant homeless,” those who do have a family home but have moved elsewhere and aren’t paying rent for an apartment (usually due to poverty, and therefore may live on the street) in order to try to get a job in the city with which to support themselves and possibly the rest of their family, who are usually back home in some rural area. This is very different from what homelessness typically looks like in the US, though it happens here too.

If a child is not formally disowned but is nonetheless forced out by their family, then it’s effectively a matter of child abuse to be handled by the appropriate government organization once it is discovered/reported, and either the family recants or they formally disown the child. If they are formally disowned, they are entitled to shelter.

Though not the same system by any means, I think the DPRK’s law on this subject is similar, though it’s much easier for poor families (and kids therein) to fall through the cracks, meaning that you are more likely* to find a homeless queer kid there as a consequence.

*on a per-capita level

Draedron,

“What about the US” aka the mating call of the hexbear

Shinhoshi,
@Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml avatar

At a practical level, is there any country you think is doing a good job in general?

yuri,

Ooh, answering questions with a question! He’s good.

ThereRisesARedStar,

Not being threatened with homelessmess would have helped me infinitely more than the right to be married.

yuri,

I’m gay and housing is just as hard to find for me as it is for my straight friends. Housing in the United States is prohibitively expensive, even/especially for renters depending on the area. This comparison was flawed to begin with, but that’s not surprising considering it’s the argumentative equivalent of a “no u”. Die on a better hill.

windowlicker,
@windowlicker@hexbear.net avatar

why is inclusion in an often patriarchal/misogynistic and conservative institution as marriage the end-all-be-all of queer rights? this is such an annoying talking point from liberals. i have heard american conservatives going on national stages and calling for the complete genocide of trans people, but i have not heard of anything like that from chinese politicians.

china has a long road ahead in terms of queer rights, but compared to queer rights (and “rights” like the right to get married, right to die in an imperialist war, etc) backsliding in the west, there’s a pretty big difference.

dokapuff,

I ain’t no fucking lib. It’s a simple standard of acceptance in society (i.e. gay people get to participate in the same governmental institutions as everyone else).

kristina,

No it isn’t lmao. I care more about housing rates among LGBT people, China and Cuba are high on that list.

Signed: yet another hexbear trans user. Weird how so many trans people on lemmy are hard left 🤔

BelieveRevolt,

I ain’t no fucking lib

doubt

dokapuff,

Yeah man you really got me good I actually pressed x to lie and you really called me out you did such a a good job.

nohaybanda,
Maoo,
@Maoo@hexbear.net avatar

I dunno you say a lot of lib things

dokapuff,

Must be true if you’re saying it

Maoo,
@Maoo@hexbear.net avatar

If that’s the kind of logic that convinces you of things, you should check out all of the other people saying the same thing as me.

Basically your one job as a leftist when it comes to capitalist propaganda is to not unquestioningly repeat it and guess what you’re doing, lib. And it’s in the realm of orientalism to boot. Not exactly distinguishing yourself.

ThereRisesARedStar,

As a transbian, fuck no it isnt, that is liberal bullshit. Marriage is a patriarchal institution.

dokapuff,

Okay

LinkOpensChest_wav,

No sense arguing with tankies. Every take I’ve seen from hexbear itt is absolute brainrot, and I can’t wait until we can block entire instances.

Signed, A gay, married anarchist

autismdragon,
@autismdragon@hexbear.net avatar

As an anarchist you should agree with “marriage is a patriarchal institution” since that take was pretty much invented by anarchists.

ThereRisesARedStar,

Yeah lmao

LinkOpensChest_wav,

My marriage isn’t

ThereRisesARedStar,

Breaking news: White gay man doesn’t recognize his privilege within the broader queer community, and now the weather

brain_in_a_box,

“There’s no point arguing with you; you’ll disagree with me!”

LinkOpensChest_wav,

I don’t come here to argue, nor do I come here to convince

Typical tankie seeing everything as a power struggle

brain_in_a_box,

One look at your activity here shows that that’s a lie.

ThereRisesARedStar,

tankie seeing everything as a power struggle

Anarchists are also rightfully obsessed with criticizing hierarchy and power what are you talking about? What do you think being an anarchist means?

kristina,

It means being in a vaush cult apparently

ThereRisesARedStar,

The critique of marriage as a patriarchal institution was invented by anarchists lmao. I’m just a “tankie” but I’m well read on anarchist lit, why aren’t you as an anarchist?

LinkOpensChest_wav,

Because all anarchists famously agree on everything

Fucking galaxy brain

ThereRisesARedStar,

I’m not aware of any queer anarchist critiques that don’t acknowledge that marriage, especially as recognized by the state, is a patriarchal institution, they just go on to elaborate how that can be subverted within queer culture. Do you have any links or recommendations for writings that argue that marriage recognized by the state isn’t a patriarchal institution at all?

GenderIsOpSec,

dw they’ll get back to you after they write their own.

it’s going to be Harry Potter but Harry is gay, nothing else changes

tocopherol,
@tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I’m a queer anarchist and I’ve posted plenty on hexbear, is it possible you only notice the takes that cause you the most instinctive reaction? There is a more diverse array of views there than people on other instances realize I think. And I’ve seen more constructive discussion there than most places on the internet, including lemmy.world and other instances.

LinkOpensChest_wav,

That’s great, although I’m not sure how well someone who fundamentally opposes statehood can find much meaningful discourse there.

Look below, and you’ll see tankies accusing me of transphobia and all manner of evil simply because I choose to be married, even though I by no means exclude or invalidate anyone else’s relationship.

It fucking sucks when people can defend a state for excluding gay people (or any people) from rights that others enjoy. It’s in itself LGBTphobic. Not me – them

tocopherol,
@tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

The only ‘tankies accusing’ anything I saw in the convo were people mentioning that “marriage is a patriarchal institution”, which I don’t see how that is calling you a transphobe even if you disagree. Someone did mention trans people don’t care about marriage because they are being murdered, maybe that is what you are referring to, it really didn’t come off to me like anyone was calling you a transphobe but maybe I’m wrong. I didn’t see anyone say that you couldn’t be married, or that people can’t enjoy having a marriage, to me that is separate from critique of marriage as a patriarchal institution. But yeah, I don’t know why anyone would defend a state for anything. That’s part of why I do feel the need to engage with more ‘state-friendly’ socialists, to figure out what about it seems necessary to them, or if there is some greater flaw with my anti-state belief.

LinkOpensChest_wav,

That’s a pretty generous interpretation of someone accusing me of being a typical gay person “pulling up the ladder.” In fact, your just straight up being dishonest here.

I think you need to examine your personal motives for associating with people who defend authoritarian genocidal regimes. Maybe you’re privileged enough not to care, but I give a fuck about people. Goodbye

brain_in_a_box,

authoritarian regimes

As opposed to those non-authoritarian regimes that you, as a self proclaimed anarchist, definitely believe in.

CatoPosting,
@CatoPosting@hexbear.net avatar

authoritarian genocidal regimes

Like the United States?

autismdragon,
@autismdragon@hexbear.net avatar

Damn you got really mad at someone for saying that they are interested in why pro-state socialists feel that way and want to learn. Why does someone wanting to learn make you so angry? Maybe because you’re closed minded and refuse to listen and learn in the slightest?

Someone with as much obvious privilege as you, who wields it in conversations freely, calling others priviledged for the mere act of engaging with people who think differently than them is quiet rich.

ETA: I think you need to maybe think about introspecting instead of lashing out when someone accuses you of being a priviledged white gay westerner “pulling up the ladder”. Because that is a quiet common phenomenon (see men like Pete Buttigieg for example). White gays who aren’t poor saying “ok, we won marriage equality, dont care about the rest of it” is very frequent and you ARE acting like that in this thread.

kristina,

pro-state

😏

bazingabrain,
@bazingabrain@hexbear.net avatar

god damn it lol mao-clap

autismdragon,
@autismdragon@hexbear.net avatar
kristina,

Hexbear has the largest number of trans people than any other instance lmao

Yet another gay trying to split away from the T rather than trying to understand why so many trans people hold views like this

dialectical_analysis_of_gock,
@dialectical_analysis_of_gock@hexbear.net avatar

Gay liberal trying to pull up the ladder, no trans person gives a fuck about marriage when they are getting murdered. Look up trans murders per year in the United States and China, I’ll wait, as I know that Russia has less trans murders than the United States

LinkOpensChest_wav,

What the fuck are you talking about, Jesse?

Edit: I believe trans people should have equity too, and the freedom to enter into whatever type of relationship that they so choose, whatever that may look like. Ironically, it’s you who are trying to invalidate other people’s relationships. I’m doing nothing of the kind.

CatoPosting,
@CatoPosting@hexbear.net avatar

invalidate other people’s relationships

No one is trying to do this. Stop putting words into people’s mouths.

Tankiedesantski,

why is inclusion in an often patriarchal/misogynistic and conservative institution as marriage the end-all-be-all of queer rights?

Kind of reminds me of the space race and how the USSR had all these amazing achievements but America decided that the winner was the first one to land people on the moon.

AlpineSteakHouse,

why is inclusion in an often patriarchal/misogynistic and conservative institution as marriage the end-all-be-all of queer rights?

Legal protections mostly. If you get married, you have a right to see your spouse in the hospital. Otherwise, they’re just another person even if you’ve been living together for 50 years. You also have a right to inheritance, the right to receive pensions and 401k, etc etc. An unmarried partner is essentially left with nothing unless explicitly stated in a will and even then they don’t have all the legal protections.

Imagine living with someone for 20 years and they get into a car wreck, you can’t see them before they die because you’re married. You get kicked out of your home because legally you’re just a roommate and have no right to stay in that house. Then, all the money your partner invested goes to their shithead parents who kicked them out as a child. None of that would happen if you were married.

Marriage is an outdated contract but the functions it provides are still important to society.

Edit: Obviously I support China but marriage isn’t just a “proof of love” or some other sentimental thing.

bazingabrain,
@bazingabrain@hexbear.net avatar

this is correct, my aunt and uncle dont really give a shit about marriage, but theyve got two little girls now and will get married to avoid those kinds of issues

Tankiedesantski,

Can gay people exist in America without their sexual identities being the subject of endless culture war bullshit?

I’m all for China legalizing gay marriage and full protections for LGBT people. That process requires Chinese society to have its own conversation, which is what’s happening right now. Copy pasting American culture war bullshit verbatim isn’t going to do gay people any good, and a gay character in a kids movie certainly isn’t going to do jack shit.

windowlicker,
@windowlicker@hexbear.net avatar

the newer generations in china have been leading the way in terms of a public opinion shift towards acceptance of LGBTQ people. on social media and in city centers you can find a lot of LGBTQ youth freely expressing themselves from what i’ve seen.

kristina,

There are even laws against hate speech towards LGBT people in the Chinese national media. That will literally never happen in America

dokapuff,

Then why change the movies? Why not just not release them if Chinese society isn’t ready to have that conversation yet?

Tankiedesantski,

Because giving the impressing that LGBT issues are an imposition on Chinese society by the West in general and America specifically is going to distort the issue at best and at worst give the conservatives ammo to say that LGBT is an American plot to blah blah blah. Especially in the context of a Disney movie, aimed at kids, which adds in a “they’re coming for our children” factor.

It would do incalculable damage to the advancement of LGBT rights in China for such rights to be tied to America or the West, so on balance the censors probably did the LGBT community a solid here.

Plus, that’s assuming that this is the censors in China and not Disney self censoring because Disney thinks the Chinese censors care.

dokapuff,

I don’t see how a story about a gay character could possibly do such damage to an entire movement regardless of its country of origin.

I’m really not trying to be obtuse I actually don’t understand.

Tankiedesantski,

Well for one, China and much of the global south have been struggling against the political, economic, and cultural hegemony of the West for centuries now and there’s a pretty visceral aversion to doing whatever the west is perceived to be telling us to do. Especially so on a cultural and societal level where Westerners have zero idea of who we are and how we do things but just constantly tell us how we should think and behave.

In this specific context, there well recognized scholars who posit that homophobia was spread in China by Westerners during the late Qing and Republican era. In addition to being rightfully wary of Western social and cultural meddling, there is also a strong rejection of the hypocrisy of the West causing this problem in the first place and now judging us for not immediately following their model in solving it.

For another, Western media just recently demonstrated how willing it is to politicize Disney movies by accusing China and Occupied Korea of being racist because of poor ticket sales of The Little Mermaid. If Westoid media makes a big song and dance about how a billion and a half Chinese people are homophobes because we didn’t turn up to see a Disney movie, that’s going to taint the whole movement with an association to hysterical Western political media.

axont,

They’re having the conversation right now. Like there was a recent incident where LGBTQ stuff was banned off Weibo (Chinese social media) and there was a public outcry that reversed the decision. It’s up to China to decide how they’ll progress and I’m optimistic about it.

China’s censorship laws are mostly designed for protectionist reasons, like they don’t want their domestic film industry overrun by Disney or Sony. They’d rather have an internal market that’s not bound to international businesses. That said, their censorship board is, for better or worse, operated by a bunch of stick in the mud boomers. Hopefully it’ll get better with increasing awareness among younger people and changing trends. That said, the idea that China needs its government overthrown because it censors movies or that the state isn’t as progressive as it could be? That’s absurd and not helping anything.

I should also mention that homosexuality was mostly seen as normal or ignored throughout Chinese history up until the 19th century. It was a theme at the time that Britain or some other western power would start involving themselves within an Asian country and rewrite local laws, including restrictions on homosexuality.

dokapuff,

I’ve never said they need to be overthrown? That’s literally not what I’m saying at all.

Lemmygradwontallowme,
@Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net avatar

Well, I’d say sorry on his behalf, considering you seem to ask the question in good faith…

axont,

Ok sorry I was responding to people in my head

GarbageShoot,

Most of the useful conversation to be had is not from the west demanding they just adopt western culture. I don’t support censoring movies on homophobic grounds, but I think gay media produced and shown domestically (which absolutely does exist) is much more productive and important.

Cqrd, (edited )

Go back to hexbear, tanky. Nobody likes you.

Literally the only thing tankies can say about the atrocities their beloved authoritarian dictators commit is “but amerikah”. Fuck off with your bullshit.

Draedron,

Hexbear needs to be defederated from every instance

LinkOpensChest_wav,

As soon as we have the ability to block entire instances, they’ll be effectively silenced. I can’t wait!

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