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Pyro, to comicstrips in I can't wait to play tonight [Clueless Hero]

If only our lives weren’t bound by work…

prole,

Lol… At this point, they probably wouldn’t need to be if humans weren’t so awful and selfish.

pinkdrunkenelephants,

So how do we make that happen?

prole,

We can’t. It’s too late.

The_Picard_Maneuver,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website avatar

We spend our best years and energy working.

hunter2,

Work could and should be fulfilling. Unfortunately many modern jobs are just soul crushing and feel meaningless :-(

DoomsdaySprocket,

Don’t worry, even fulfilling and meaningful jobs can now be made to feel trite and soul-crushing through the power of bad management!

FlyingSquid, to starwarsmemes in It doesn't always feel good to compare yourself to your parents
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

On the other hand, he didn’t get two of his limbs chopped off and end up thrown into a pit of lava a short time later, requiring him to spend the rest of his life in an armored suit. So maybe the incest was worth it?

The_Picard_Maneuver, (edited )
@The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website avatar

So maybe the incest was worth it

-FlyingSquid, 2023

Zellith,

That just activated a long supressed and forgotten part of gaming history. At one point in Final Fantasy XI, you could get a really powerful sword from a dragon. Someone once asked "Would you fuck your sister for a Ridill". Not everyone said no... I might be getting the phrasing of the question wrong since it was 10+ years ago. I tried googling but nothing came up.

acockworkorange,

If porn is any gage, a lot would fuck their sister for free.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Look at Darth Vader. I stand by my statement.

M500,

I could be wrong, but I read someone else’s comment years ago that said the suit was like that on purpose and it was a way for the emperor to control him or something.

Anyway, that might not even be canon even if it’s in some book or game.

Gabu,

It’s canon. The suit was purposefully made in a very flawed way, so that Vader would have a difficult time winning a battle against Sidious. Even in his crippled state, Vader was a major threat. Also, it’s not entirely clear why it happens in-universe, but Vader’s burnt body was supposed to heal over time, yet it never did - not until Luke brought back a spark of goodness in his heart.

KazuyaDarklight, (edited ) to risa in Tonight, on Unsolved Mysteries
@KazuyaDarklight@lemmy.world avatar

False! She went on to command her own Obena class starship, the USS Archimedes.

(She did also appear in 1 other TNG episode after this, Samaritan Snare.)

Kolanaki, (edited )
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

I keep getting her confused with the random character they sent on a spy mission and died. Who was that?

bingbong,

The bajoran that was with Wesley in the academy, she lied during their trial surrounding the death of her team member during an unauthorized and dangerous shuttle piloting maneuver in an earlier episode.

crazycanadianloon,

Sito

cybervseas,

Ensign Seito? The Bajoran?

Telodzrum,

Sito Jaxa has been used as a reference for character growth on the last two episodes of LD.

DontRedditMyLemmy,

Suspicion confirmed, thanks!

aeronmelon,
photonic_sorcerer, to lemmyshitpost in Doctors don't want you to know
@photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

You’ll notice that the salmon is no longer alive.

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

I’m dead on the inside, which is where the smoke goes. 🤷🏻‍♂️

lamabop,

But is it alive with flavour?

tdawg, to memes in It can't be stopped

I guinely hate windows as a product. But man XP was a banger for it’s time

hughesdikus,

Windows has its ups.

The only problem people should have with it is that it’s on 70% of ALL desktops which is about half a billion too many.

A fair competition should be there. Linux, Mac and Windows should have around 33% market share in an ideal world.

You may count whatever Google is doing or Samsung/Huawei can do as separate in a dream world.

dual_sport_dork,
@dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world avatar

As usual I think that sentiment was retroactive, certainly once Vista came out. At launch, people hated the Fisher-Price look of the Luna default UI. Like, a lot. The switch to the NT based kernel for the home version of Windows also caused a shitton of people’s hardware and peripherals not to work anymore because they needed new drivers and the manufacturers of said gadgets – if they were still in business – could not be arsed. Some of this could be alleviated by bullying that hardware’s Windows 2000 drivers into working with XP. Some of it could not.

Anticorp,

I liked XP in its own era, it’s not just nostalgia. Although computers and the Internet in general were very exciting to me back then.

Emerald, (edited )

They should’ve just used the Silver theme instead of blue luna. Unless it didn’t exist on launch.

anonymouse, to comicstrips in Connection [beetlemoses]

That plumbing should not have passed inspection.

sour,
@sour@kbin.social avatar

is cartoon plumbing

neidu,

As made famous by that Windows screensaver

kamenlady,
@kamenlady@lemmy.world avatar

Just reading your sentence made the screensaver crawl it’s way through my brain, in those beloved colors, fast mode.

AlternatePersonMan, to memes in I sure hope I can keep up!

I feel this in my soul.

Still better than the open office concept though. It’s like it was designed to be cruel and stupid.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/e7a88ead-2775-4999-b6ab-bb55646ca940.jpeg

Xanthrax, (edited )
@Xanthrax@lemmy.world avatar

I’m starting at new office with that policy. I’m already scoping out the single desks. It’s kind of nice being able to ask people questions, but I’d rather just use webx these days.

Tenthrow,
@Tenthrow@lemmy.world avatar

I worked open office on a contract job one time that lasted a week and I could not WAIT to see that place in my rear view mirror.

rockSlayer,

Open office and bench seating were designed to increase surveillance, so of course they feel awful

SCB,

For my last open-office gig, it was 100% necessary because every salesperson worked with a junior, and you had to listen to them all the time to teach them.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Bench seating? Are you fucking kidding me? If I went for an interview and I saw that everyone had to sit on benches, I’d be out of there.

rockSlayer, (edited )

Lol I don’t mean literal benches. Bench seating is the worst type of open seating, in which all the desks are aligned in rows that look like benches

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Thank goodness for that!

IWantToFuckSpez,

At least that open office has carpet. I’ve seen open offices with concrete or tile floors and walls. Those kind of offices are hell to be in. If a small group starts talking that sounds bounces around the room and then everyone has to talk louder because they can’t hear each other. And managers are surprised that everyone wears headphones or don’t want to be in the office at all.

kautau,

It was designed to pack more people into an office plan. The open workspace has been proven to be ineffective, but it makes people more money, therefore it’s everywhere

merc,

That looks quiet and positively spacious compared to the last open office environment I did time in.

Imagine that same space but 4 people between the column and the window instead of just 2. Then make the space 3x as long. Then reduce the space between the backs of the chairs by 50%.

Even though everyone in the space was doing individual programming / sysadmin work, the space was extremely loud just from a few spontaneous conversations between people working on the same thing together. Everyone wore headphones nearly all the time, only taking them off if they needed to talk / shout to the people near them about something. Often, if you needed to talk with someone sitting 4 desks away, the easiest way to do it was over IM.

yokonzo,

God damn did you work in a giant shipping container?

merc,

Nope, just a massively overcrowded office building. The ventilation system could barely keep up. But, management made it clear to us that the reason for the open office layout was to encourage collaboration and foster creativity!

dubyakay,

the open office layout was to encourage collaboration and foster

Of course! That’s what every call center needs where you go by the script! Collaboration and creativity.

merc,

This wasn’t a call center, it was a sysadmin / software development sweatshop workspace.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Where I worked, it was just six wooden tables with computers on them. It was awful. They didn’t have room for cubicles, so it was pretty much the only option, but that didn’t make it any less awful.

JJROKCZ,

How anyone gets any work done at all with a single monitor is beyond me, actually no, I know the answer is they don’t.

I’m an IT manager and have advocated for at least dual monitor at every workstation for a decade. Every time we’ve transitioned a department to dual we’ve seen significant productivity jumps well worth the $100 per station it costs.

spikederailed,

I have no idea. I barely prefer working from home be the office because my desk at home has 3x 24" 1080 and a 32" 4k. Vs driving 100miles one way to the office to sit at 2 monitors, I can get so much more done at home

SomeKindaName, to memes in Japan is living in the future that the 1990s dreamed of.

Most of those negatives sound fine to me.

cm0002,

…how? The only acceptable one (Even though I personally don’t like it) is cash.

Fax sucks ass and should have been put in the grave LONG ago, Flash drives are superior to Floppy in every way and fuck paper filing, digitized paperwork is far superior.

768,

Floppy drives are the brontosaurus among these, excusive paper filing sucks too, but cash society and fax telecom is not that bad.

SuckMyWang,

I mean these things can’t be that bad, Japan compete well on the world stage so whatever they’re doing is working fine. Can it be improved, probably. Does it need to be? Not yet

MeanEYE,
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

If people actually upgraded from FAX, I would have completely agreed. What we have today is an abomination which doesn’t work. Not even a week ago I had an issue with some paperwork where tax office required me to fill some form in PDF, then print it, then sign it, scan it and send it to them. I have a phone with a pen, so I did all of that and skipped few steps. Signed the document on screen. No no no no no. They didn’t want that. They want my signature on paper which I never have to send them but my signature signed through screen is not good enough.

FAX is basically all of this with fewer steps and I can easily see why they wouldn’t want to move away from it. It it works, don’t fix it mentality. Luckily this trend is slowly going away, but damn. Not to mention same IRS office required me to generate a certificate which I can use to digitally sign documents. But I couldn’t do this either, since they accept that only on some documents. A mystery.

As far as floppy disks are concerned, this is mainly for industrial machines. They are still a huge user. Those machines are not replaced every 2 years as they are more robust and made to last. So having a machine older than 30 years still working in industry is nothing new and considering upgrade costs literally millions, it’s simply not worth paying that much money to upgrade to USB.

st3ph3n,
@st3ph3n@kbin.social avatar

Lots of those floppy drives in industrial and lab applications (as well as the retro computing enthusiast space) are being replaced by things like GoTek devices, which are essentially floppy emulators with flash memory.

MeanEYE,
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

In some places, yes. But many are still not doing the upgrade as it would require technical person to do so, provide tech support, etc. All of that costs money. Whole industry is becoming very specialized place. Siemens still sells laptops with DB9 and other serial connectors just so you can access and program PLCs. And new USB based adapters to serial simply don’t work. Sometimes they do, but most of the time they have issues with these specialized devices.

SomeKindaName, (edited )
  • We use fax in the USA more than you’d think. I’d call that a wash.
  • Paper in your filing cabinet will never be messed with by a ransomware attack. Ransomware attacks seem to happen to businesses and hospitals just about daily here. I’m actually watching a news story on a hospital ransomware attack as I write this.

Floppy drives? Yeesh that one is a bit weird.

LemmyNameMyself,
@LemmyNameMyself@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, like what’s wrong with cash?

Kusimulkku,

Annoying to deal with

idunnololz,
@idunnololz@lemmy.world avatar

I have a really slim wallet, which is only possible because I never have to use cash. Also cash is dirty. I can wash my phone once a week to keep it clean but I can’t do that with cash (well I can but what’s the point, and I’ll get accused of money laundering /j). It’s inefficient since you have to count your coins and bills and the cashier needs to do the same and then you have to check if you got the right change. You can also misplace cash, especially coins.

Meanwhile I haven’t had to handle cash for like 6 years now except for extremely rare circumstances and it just feels way better.

Wrench,

It’s not even accurate anymore. Cards are accepted in a lot of places.

It was absolutely true 10 years ago, though. It’s inconvenient always needing to think about how much cash you need to bring, and having a pocket full of change because it’s significant denominations.

Also, their banks are only open on weekdays and close super early. Bank lines were (are?) massive because everyone had to go at the same time due to work hours.

TimewornTraveler,

America doesn’t really have a functional system for this yet either. It’s a lot easier to just tap your phone on a brick and be done with it, but currently the tap method is pretty hit or miss. And bank transfers are atrocious - why do we pay venmo to do something that Korean banks just straight up do for everyone? In Korea you can just give someone your deposit number and with a couple buttons you send money easily/instantly.

olicvb,
@olicvb@lemmy.ca avatar

You don’t even have to go that far, Canada has interac e-transfers where you can send money by email. Directly accessible through the standard bank app/site. I haven’t handled cash in years

TWeaK,

Ew email does not sound like the place for cash transactions.

But yeah, most countries these days have instant bank transfers. The US is ancient when it comes to payments, “cashing your payslip” isn’t a thing in much of the rest of the world.

eating3645,

They likely mean their bank uses email as an identifier. So the bank asks you the registered email you’d like to send money to. Not that you’re emailing cash or something like that.

Similar to zelle, a third party that fills the gap.

idunnololz,
@idunnololz@lemmy.world avatar

The email is like an id for your account. You can use your phone number. AFAIK if you link it email or phone number to your bank and someone sends you money to that email or phone number it doesn’t actually text or email you. The money will be directly deposited into your account.

scottyjoe9,

In Australia you can send money via phone number or email (called payid) but it’s not sent in an email or SMS, it’s just that your number/email address is used as a unique identifier linked to your bank account. When someone pays you via either of those, the money gets directed into that account instantly.

And yes, being paid directly into your bank account is standard here and I would say really the only option for most jobs. I’m 35 and have never had a job that doesn’t pay you direct to your account.

psud,

In Australia you can send money bank to bank for free, with practically instant transfers (though large amounts and first transfers from you to someone get a 24hr hold)

And you can use the person’s phone number as the transaction target (instead of bank branch number and account number)

It’s pretty nice, good for small business too, especially trades

ASeriesOfPoorChoices,

Re: Australia: be aware that all normal bank to bank transfers are still min 1 working day transfer. Its FAST and Osko which bypass that with their own new network (up to $1000).

Not every bank is with Osko or FAST, and some are with one and not the other. Though I think FAST is fading away with Osko being dominant.

Re: phone number: or email address! It’s great, especially if you have your own domain name. You can make different PayID email addresses for each account you have if you want.

psud,

Me and my mate have sent money to each other for kitty balancing on fishing trips, this year (about an hour ago) he sent me his share (high hundreds) and it was instant

We don’t use phone number since we have had each other’s bank details for ages

ASeriesOfPoorChoices,

Osko/FAST: are fast BSB/Acct# transfers.

PayID: is an easy way to reference a BSB/Acct#.

Together, they are fast and easy, but they are not the same thing and are not required for one to be used to use the other.

Also, “high hundreds” is less than $1000 :-P

Rolando,

I don’t know much about Korea. Do they have laws limiting how much you can be tracked and marketed to?

Vilian, (edited )

Same in Brazil, i can send i think 10k to anyone in my contact using PIX that was created by the goverment and is opensource, i can pay with it too, there is other way too, but PIX is the easier, just need a internet connection

you can send using ramdom nunber, cellphone number, CPF, qr code, email, just need to configure the key that you want in you bank or bank app, and it just work without fees

lemmy___user,

Theoretically the situation with bank to bank money transfers should be improving - the replacement for the ancient, slow ACH system went live a few months ago. Of course it will likely take several centuries for a critical mass of banks to support it, but there has been some progress at least.

MonkeMischief,

My bank still sends me a text message and has no other means of 2FA options.

You’d think they’d be way more up to date on this “digital security practices” stuff. :|

darq,
@darq@kbin.social avatar

Yeah honestly living there for a while, I came around a bit on doing things by paper.

It's slower, certainly. But the Japanese are scary efficient at it, and there is a lot of infrastructure to support it.

And in the case where things go wrong or are confusing, at least you can take the forms and actually go and talk to someone, rather than staring at a computer screen that offers nothing.

TheAlbatross, to comicstrips in Drinking in your 20s vs 30s [Sarah Anderson]

Have a Gatorade before and after you drink.

There ya go, fellow 30-something party people, saved ya a hangover, just hope with that no one suggests a venue change to the club at 11:30

GBU_28,

Absolutely not gonna help lol

Kusimulkku,

I’ve learned that people who talk about these remedies or say they don’t get hangovers drink a lot less than I do

TheAlbatross, (edited )

Most of the hangover is just dehydration, so the Gatorade really does help a lot. Pedialyte or a different sports drink would do similarly, but also getting in shape, sleeping right, drinking plenty of water on the days you’re not drinking helps mitigate the issues with a little indulgence just fine.

But, everyone is different so your milage may vary.

GBU_28,

Yeah I can drink Gatorade, have a full meal before bed, stop drinking an hour before bed, have an antacid, everything. If I’m “drunk” at any point of the night I am done for the next day

GBU_28,

Yeah I can drink Gatorade, have a full meal before bed, stop drinking an hour before bed, have an antacid, everything. If I’m “drunk” at any point of the night I am done for the next day

demonquark,

Gatorade for the win. My life changed when I discovered the healing power of gatorade.

The_Picard_Maneuver,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website avatar

If I’m out of the house past 10, something has already gone terribly wrong.

ultratiem,
@ultratiem@lemmy.ca avatar

You can make it till 10!!! 🙇‍♂️

AnUnusualRelic, (edited )
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

I guess drinking 75+ is technically drinking 30+…

Pea666,

Some young dude caught me yawning at a Rammstein concert this summer. I told him I couldn’t help it because it was past 9.

Guildo,

How about drinking a lot of water, eating healthy and drinking less alcohol?

Pea666,

You don’t get it. I can get a hangover from looking at a beer the wrong way and I’m not even in my 40’s yet.

Seraph,
@Seraph@kbin.social avatar

Ah yes. Why didn't I think of simply drinking less alcohol to solve my hangover?

You are right about water though, hydration is all we're talking about when it comes to hangovers.

redballooon,

If you’re in your 20s

SmoothIsFast,

Not really, hangovers are literally dehydration mixed with poor mental and physical recovery if you fall asleep while drunk. Sober up before the nights end, get some hydration and food in you and you should be good to go. If you are going to sleep fucked up then nothing is gonna save you from a hangover whether you are young or not.

TheAlbatross, (edited )

Yeah, during a majority of the year. On the rare weekend where schedules align such that a buncha 30-somethings can get together and party?

Gatorade. Or Brodes.

Everything in moderation, my friend. Especially moderation.

Guildo,

If you are drinking during the majority of the year, I have bad news for u. You’re an alcoholic.

TheAlbatross,

Thanks for the concern, but I think you read my comment backwards.

lightnsfw,

What and just experience my emotions? No thank you.

Guildo, (edited )

I understand that concern.

ImFresh3x, (edited )

Sugar and alcohol just make everything harder for your liver. Just eat well before, and drink plenty of water before, between, and after alcohol. Drink a bit less alcohol when going out. Get to bed at a semi reasonable time. Skip the sugar water.

TonyHawksPoTater, to memes in The devil's in the House of the Rising Sun
@TonyHawksPoTater@kbin.social avatar

The devil was the judge of the contest, cheated, and still lost. Says a lot about Johnny's ability.

ivanafterall,
@ivanafterall@kbin.social avatar

Doesn't it really say much more about the devil's obvious and severe limitations?

Xanthrax, (edited )
@Xanthrax@lemmy.world avatar

Well yeah, he has to follow a contract most of the time. (Atleast in folklore). That’s what makes it neat. He’s beating the devil at his own deal.

He bet against the house and won.

FunkyMonk,

Maybe he just wants some freinds to jam with but nobody hangs out with someone horny without some gold and threats on the line, tales as old as time really.

Rolando,

FACT: gold is formed in the extreme heat of stars

FACT: Hell is known for its extreme heat

THEREFORE: gold is likely extremely common in Hell. The Devil was offering a worthless prize.

Mnemnosyne,

It’s not the heat but the pressure that does it. The heat in a star is the byproduct of the pressure, it’s not what causes the gold to form. And even then I think metals as heavy as gold only form in a supernova.

ivanafterall,
@ivanafterall@kbin.social avatar

Well, hell has both the pressure and the temperature of a supernova and you can't prove otherwise.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA,
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

I bet the devil could you got a fiddle

meatand2veg,

I always thought that Johnny won the contest, but Johnny’s pride will eventually land himself in hell anyway, pride being one of the seven deadly. Devil doesn’t care that he lost and doesn’t flip out for that reason.

doingthestuff,

It isn’t pride to say you’re the best if you are. It’s a statement of fact.

flicker,

I always thought this but with the added twist that the Devil didn't actually lose. He chose to "lose" because he didn't want Johnny humbled. He wanted Johnny and all that pride to go across earth challenging anyone to believe they could be so good as to beat the Devil, inspiring more pride.

tslnox,

There’s a sequel exactly about this.

Guess who wins? :-D

youtu.be/L0XUTD7QYcs?si=l5DeAE-go9CHN7ec

shalafi, (edited ) to memes in It's almost like a zombie movie for them

Been reading the Deathworlders book(s). Basically a FOSS series of novels. Sounds like it would devolve into bad fan fiction. 1,500 pages in and I’m still diggin’ it.

Humans come from a “level 12” planet. Sapience isn’t thought able to evolve on a level 10, too dangerous. Too serious on every front; Gravity, weather, temperature extremes, microorganisms, parasites, predators, radiation exposure, all that.

First chapter is a human on a space station trying to get processed through emigration when the baddest-ass aliens of all lock on and board. He beats one to death with its own arm. Basically like a chimp in a preschool of giant, soft children.

Gets hilarious when the same guy is finally back home bartending and, as Earth watches in awe, those same aliens invade a Canadian hockey game.

Epubs and such are readily available.

deathworlders.com

Neato,
@Neato@kbin.social avatar

FOSS series of novels? Is that another term for a web serial? A free novel or story posted in chunks online?

Swedneck,
@Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

it means the story is published under a license that allows you to redistribute and modify the text, the only limitation is that you can’t make a profit.

the specific license used is Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0

Kalothar,

If this is a serious question it’s most likely a group writing collaboration of some kind, playing off the idea of the the way free and open source software is a collaborate effort.

Riven,
@Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Sounds like it’s simar to SCP. I’m in.

Wogi,

Humans are space orcs

ICastFist,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

Oi! Orkz ar’ made for fight’n an’ winnin’, humies ar’ juz choppa praktis’!

bigoljim,
@bigoljim@lemmy.ml avatar

This looks like it is right up my alley. Thanks for sharing Shalafi!

MNByChoice,

Fantastic link! I had started reading on Reddit, and I am happy to see this elsewhere.

AngryCommieKender, (edited )

I won’t spoil anything for you, but there are at least 3 other books that are not only set in the Jenkinsverse, they all took place mostly between chapters 2 and 3. Also they were written by three other authors, not Hambone

Salvage is canon up to chapter 70 something. You’ll know you left canon when Adrian Saunders starts messing around with a black hole

The Adventures of Xiu Chang. The entire story is canon

Humans Don’t Make Good Pets. While this is canon, it’s a frustrating one as it’s not finished at all, and the character has a lot of potential.

Also you neglected to mention that “Purveyor Kevin Jenkins” is a normal out of shape bartender.

TheDoozer,

That’s like The Damned series by Alan Dean Foster.

Basically alien societies naturally formed without the type of infighting and barbarism humans started with, so the entire idea of war to them was extremely foreign and uncomfortable until they were attacked. They formed an alliance to push back the empire trying to conquer them, but they lacked the will or martial ingenuity to really hold the empire back. Then they come across humans, and the first (random) human they come across accidentally severely injures their ambassador. So they offer humans heaps of technology and resources for soldiers. They don’t offer membership (because we’re absolute nightmares) if I remember correctly, but Earth is fine with that. People volunteer in droves to see the galaxy and fight in wars where they are so overpowered it feels like they put in a cheat code.

The series is about… well, what happens to our society when our main export is unstoppable death and destruction. Hence “The Damned.”

Pringles,

The Undying Mercenaries series by B.V. Larson is kind pf similar. Humanity is basically given the choice to be useful to the galactic empire (forgot what it’s called in this series exactly) and the only useful export product we can offer are soldiers. The minds of the soldiers are backed up before going into battle and can be put in a cloned body, hence undying mercenaries.

Mesophar,

This premise and the HumanityFuckYeah is what originally brought me to Reddit. There’s a lemmy for it, too, but it isnt as active

lemmy.world/c/hfy

Maybe if we get more interest we can build it up!

axont, to memes in Technically it's always the first in China until they get removed from the movie

There are LGBTQ movies from China so this makes no sense. One of my favorites is Lan Yu (藍宇) from 2001. Most of the characters are gay men and the plot is even critical of how the army handled the 1989 Tiananmen Square incident.

Did y’all learn about what China is like from Rocky & Bullwinkle cartoons or what

Rinox,

There’s literally a law banning same sex relationships from being shown on tv and in cinemas, what the fuck are you talking about??

Also Tienanmen square wasn’t “an incident”. It was a massacre.

axont,

I mean yeah I wish representation were better. Too many regional representatives are boomers stuck in the past. I was in Shenzhen in 2019 though and met a bunch of cool queer folks though.

AOCapitulator,
@AOCapitulator@hexbear.net avatar

Americans call the Boston massacre and only 6 people died, just saying that on the level of supposedly horrific state violence that should never be forgotten, so you have any idea how many massacres of the same and larger scale the United States has perpetrated just in the last 30 years?

Rinox,

According to the Chinese Communist Party around 200-300 civilians died, and several thousands were injured. According to most other agencies, the numbers are around 10 times higher, with 1000 to 3000 dead. Either way, it’s a very high number of dead.

Or is this not a massacre? By the way, two wrongs don’t make a right

AOCapitulator,
@AOCapitulator@hexbear.net avatar

You don’t give a fuck about the wrongdoings of any country but the ones you were told are “enemies”

Cops in the US murder thousands of people every year, bet you don’t even spare a thought for it, is my point

State violence only bad when it’s not my state

Maoo,
@Maoo@hexbear.net avatar

*State violence is only bad when my ruling class tells me it is

Rinox,

I do care about wrongdoings of any country. The issues with police violence, racial discrimination and gun violence in the US are not a secret. You are not the first one talking about that. Everyone in the west talks about that, it’s now the first thing most people think of when talking about the US in the west.

That being said, I don’t understand why, when anyone even tries to say “China bad” the answer is always “but America is also bad”. Why does that make it right?

AOCapitulator,
@AOCapitulator@hexbear.net avatar

because we’re in a contrived thread that twists over backwards to shit on china, not a thread about the legitimate issues with china. Its frustrating to see, even when I agree that china is pretty bad in a lot of ways, seeing that drumbeat of “enemy state bad” as an army of mindless brainwashed western redditors marches by throwing out half truths and outright lies (its almost never real criticisms, like with north korea its just miles long lists of shit westerners were taught to think like its illegal to not have the kim haircut) it just makes my head pop

kristina,

All the organizers, though, are living cushy rich lives in Taiwan and the USA now

Wonder whose head those deaths are on? It’s not like you can legally go around impaling soldiers to buses and stealing apcs and tanks in any country

brain_in_a_box,

It was a massacre.

I suppose those police officers just set themselves on fire then?

kristina,

What? I was just watching a show the other day with a trans hostess on Chinese national TV. Her name is Jin Xing and she’s very well known and her show draws 100 million viewers regularly

raven,
Rinox,

Yes, I was worried about the square. Thank God most of the massacre happened on the streets around Tienanmen

420blazeit69,

“I was lied to about an obvious, easily verifiable fact, but I’m sure the people who lied to me are otherwise being honest”

raven,

The point is that the western sequence of events is incorrect on the face of it.

tiananmensquare.carrd.co

Ganbat,

Dear Tankie,

Please fuck yourself with broken glass

Signed,
The rest of the world

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

I love how entitled you feel with the white man’s burden, representing all of rest of the world, even though you paleskins are only 12% of the world’s population and have suppressed and looted the rest of the world for centuries. Consider that when white privilege dies, you people will start to become extinct, as is already happening in USA…

TheBigMike,

Yeah… it is what it is I guess…

abraxas,

What exactly did any of his reply have to do with white people? Or are you defending the persecution of gay people and blaming white people for homosexuality?

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

Parent comment literally explains that LGBT+ is not persecuted in China. Above reply starts with “dear tankie fuck yourself with broken glass”, even going on to talk on behalf of “rest of the world”, that aligns with China instead of Anglosphere.

He is the whitey perpetrating Sinophobia, which I point out as being typical white person nonsense. And all of you repliers are the defenders of anti-China bigotry.

abraxas,

Parent comment literally explains that LGBT+ is not persecuted in China.

Dishonestly, and they were called on it. Yes. With facts directly related to the movie in question.

Above reply starts with “dear tankie fuck yourself with broken glass”,

While I’ve had some bad run-ins with tankies, that’s more extreme than I would normally have said myself… But

even going on to talk on behalf of “rest of the world”, that aligns with China instead of Anglosphere.

So you are defining “white” as anyone of every ethnicity that isn’t Chinese AND living in China? Seems an odd way to put that word.

He is the whitey perpetrating Sinophobia

The first racist comment in this thread… and it came from you. Do you just hate everyone who isn’t Chinese?

which I point out as being typical white person nonsense

Again. I know Chinese expats who feel this way about China, and black- and brown-skinned people who agree. Are they all “white” by your definition?

And all of you repliers are the defenders of anti-China bigotry.

Ahh yes. Respond by classifying everyone as “you people”. Would you put “you people” up against the wall? How about our children? Would you put a toddler up against the wall? Tell me, do you think everyone who isn’t Chinese or pro-China is less than human and have an opinion that doesn’t matter? That’s about 80% of the world.

Apollo,

How about you fuck off with the racism?

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

Ah yes calling out centuries of Anglo crimes against rest of world = “racism”

Apollo,

Are you retarded or something?

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

Can you elaborate on the slur you are using for me?

Ganbat,

Yeah, okay buddy. Not like there aren’t already three other comments here calling that initial comment as the bullshit that it is.

Anyone ever told you that you have the reading comprehension of a carrot? Of course, that assumes you actually care about what you’re reading, rather than just blindly supporting totalitarianism and espousing racially-motivated attacks.

Have they maybe said that you’re just genuinely fucking insane? I know that everyone is already telling you how racist you are, so I don’t have to ask that one.

Oh, and btw, if you’re using easily disproven half-truths to (durr this movie even talks about Tiananmen Square!!) to try and lessen the reality of such heinous events, you can fuck yourself with broken glass, regardless of your skin color, you racist prick.

Edit: Oh, you’re that Tankie piece of shit mod from the tech board that’s been recorded deleting everything you can that so much as implies China has ever done anything wrong! People like you don’t deserve even the smallest shadow of power, you fucking scumbag, and I hope your racist rant comes back to bite you.

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

Edit: Oh, you’re that Tankie piece of shit mod from the tech board that’s been recorded deleting everything you can that so much as implies China has ever done anything wrong!

Can you provide proof I have deleted comments? I will report you to admins if you fail to prove these allegations. Nobody falsely accuses me on my moderation of boards and rooms.

Shizrak,

Oh, our ancestors were fucking awful humans, and our current ruling class is even worse, but don’t lump us common folk in with them, ya fuckin’ racist.

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

You got me, racism is wen calling out discrimination and crimes perpetrated by Anglos against rest of the world

Shizrak,

::sigh:: Again, you’re making it about race, when we hate the rich assholes who did and do that shit just as much as you do. So yeah, that is racism. Ya damn fool.

shoop,

The wiki explains that most of the crew from this movie is from mainland China, however it was made by a Hong Kong director and was filmed without permission from the government.

It explicitly states

at the time, no mainland Chinese publisher would have published it, nor would the author be safe from government reprisals. Hence, its anonymous publication on the Internet.

The film did had a brief showing run in December 2001, at Peking University, where interest by Chinese citizens was quite high, selling out the showings.

autismdragon,
@autismdragon@hexbear.net avatar

Peking University

In Beijing

Sounds like the oppressive Chinese government allowed them to show the movie.

shoop,

From the Beijing film festival wiki

The Festival originated from Peking University, and is considered to be “the only community-based non-governmental film festival in China with a special focus on gender and sexuality”

autismdragon,
@autismdragon@hexbear.net avatar

Didnt say it was a government event. Said the governemnt would implicitly have had to allowed it to happen, or it wouldn’t have. Or at least, thats what people who think the Chinese government is an all powerful oppressive force would say. Which is my point.

ETA: Like the fact that a festival like that exists AT ALL, in the nation’s capital, proves that the government isnt an evil opressive anti-queer regime that people paint it as.

shoop,

The movie was filmed without permission, what makes you think it couldn’t have been shown without permission?

Good Chinese folk can find ways around unjust restrictions just like any other country in the world. The first "festival"was held in a library in the University, probably not the type of festival you are imagining.

autismdragon,
@autismdragon@hexbear.net avatar

They didn’t get explicit permission, but they also didnt get shut down.

Also, the “filmed without permission” is weird phrasing anyway. Does every indy movie in other countries get explicit permission from the government to be filmed? A Wiki article for, say, an Australian indy movie about queer people that covers Australian oppression of the indigenous wouldn’t go out of its way to mention “the government didn’t give permission for it to be filmed” because why would it? The government doesn’t need to approve such project. Including the “government didnt give permission” feels like editorializing to make things sound more sinister then they are.

shoop, (edited )

They operated for less than a month, could have gone unnoticed?

And no I don’t think it’s weird phrasing. It’s absolutely common practice to get permits to film in public places and historic sites: thefilmfund.co/how-to-get-film-permits-and-locati…

If you’re filming on private property your supposed to get they owners permission too.

If a Australian film did some guerilla filming I’m sure that would be mentioned in it’s wiki because it can serve to promote the movie.

Edit: try googling “movies made without permission” dailyhindnews.com/top-10-movie-scenes-shot-withou…

420blazeit69,

It’s absolutely common practice to get permits to film in public places and historic sites:

Lmao that’s an entirely different thing than “you need government permission to make a film with a certain type of subject material.

superkret,

Since this work contained positive depictions of gay men, explicit (by Chinese standards) gay sex scenes, and resurrected the ghost of Tiananmen Square, at the time, no mainland Chinese publisher would have published it, nor would the author be safe from government reprisals. Hence, its anonymous publication on the Internet.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lan_Yu_(film)

Ah, such a free and progressive society!

axont,

Nothing would ever satisfy you people lmao

bitsplease,

What a comprehensive rebuttal to his counterpoint lol

You guys really have no idea what to say once you run out of prescripted talking points, huh?

Apollo,

Satisfied with positive lgbt portayals being illegal to broadcast are you?

abraxas,

You decided to go out on a limb to defend the Chinese government, make a false implication about it, and when you’re called on it, your answer is “Nothing would ever satisfy you people”.

What did you expect when you lied?

Do you concede the below statement that you replied to? I’ll re-paste it to confirm:

Since this work contained positive depictions of gay men, explicit (by Chinese standards) gay sex scenes, and resurrected the ghost of Tiananmen Square, at the time, no mainland Chinese publisher would have published it, nor would the author be safe from government reprisals. Hence, its anonymous publication on the Internet.

Do you accept that is true?

GreenTeaRedFlag,

so much better than america, where it just wouldn’t be made in the first place

Zastyion345,

Well you see wikipedia.org is actauly against china and its all fake made up by americans. /s

Gracchibro1,

It is not all fake, but your comment is basically true.

Maoo,
@Maoo@hexbear.net avatar

Try fixing that section, which is entirely speculation, and see how quickly it gets reverted and by whom. You’ll quickly run into either a power user with reactionary politics that should’ve been banned ages ago per Wikipedia’s own policies or a series of FirstWordLastWord962578 accounts making reversions with no explanation.

The latter is what lazy government behavior looks like. The former is the larger social structures built around the acceptability and empowerments of reactionary thought and narratives that is inherently anticommunist.

But really, go do it. Remove the section as speculation and show/tell us what happens.

BelieveRevolt,

It’s heavily astroturfed by the US government, so your sarcastic comment was accidentally correct tito-laugh

Maoo,
@Maoo@hexbear.net avatar

Wikipedia article speculation cited as fact on lemmy dot net.

Western propaganda is a series of clowns honking each other’s noses all the way down.

Potatos_are_not_friends, to memes in Sure. Why not. Anything goes.

And yet mfers still go in mass to these games in countries with extreme human rights issues and throw billions of dollars at merch.

teft, to memes in Have you ever seen them live?
@teft@lemmy.world avatar

It’s like how all the “people” in the stands in The Phantom Menace podracing scene were actually Q-Tips.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/d15b2bde-551e-4138-bb0f-36bd53a7d618.jpeg

The_Picard_Maneuver,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website avatar

450,000?! That must have taken forever!

FinalRemix,

Grab a fuckin’ handful, paper slicer, bam. Doubled. Dip 'em in a dye one handful at a time and toss 'em all in a bucket and shuffle them up.

You can do batches at a time, but yeah, that’s a crazy amount.

SSX,
@SSX@lemmy.world avatar

That’s fucking awesome! I love learning about these creative ways of doing certain shots.

EastSideRock,

That’s genius bravo lynch

JohnDClay,

With wind blowing up from under them to give them a little bit of motion!

LinkOpensChest_wav, to memes in How to start the day off strong

Chronic alcoholism, and their tinsel was filled with lead

the 1950s and its consequences has been a disaster for the human race

Slagathor,

The lead made the tinsel taste better though.

Anticorp,

Sure was fun though!

LinkOpensChest_wav,

As long as you weren’t Black, Native, gay, trans, homeless, a woman, or any other marginalized group – then yeah, the 50s were grand

Peppycito,

The idea to decrease alcohol consumption is an incredibly recent development in human history.

LinkOpensChest_wav,

Which started long before the 1950s. The temperance movement in the US started in the first half of the 19th century.

So relatively recent yeah, but not really relevant in this comment thread.

Peppycito, (edited )

Did you know that human history includes historic events that happened in the second half of the 18th century? It’s true!

Some historic events didn’t even include Americans!

LillyPip, (edited )

Didn’t alcohol use actually go up during temperance? I swear I read some studies on that. Like that was the reason it failed – alcohol use not only increased, but the alcohol that was available became more dangerous, so temperance was reversed and regulations on how it was made and licensing were instated.

Aggravationstation,

You may be thinking of prohibition when alcohol was made illegal in the USA in the 1920s.

LillyPip,

Yep, you’re right.

Geobloke,

You mean like Islam?

Peppycito,

You’re right, elimination is a decrease. Point taken.

ThirdWorldOrder,

Probably because alcohol and automobiles don’t mix too well

AutistoMephisto,
@AutistoMephisto@lemmy.world avatar

If there is one thing I could bring back from that era, it would be the durability of their appliances and materials. Much better than this throwaway culture we have, where everything is made to last a couple years past warranty, then thrown out at the first sign of malfunction. Shit from the 1950’s was built to endure decades of regular use, and repairs were simple and cheap.

vrighter,

so how come they’re so rare nowadays? I mean everyone had one back then, why aren’t the overwhelming majority of these appliances still with us? Survivorship bias, that’s why

SleepingTower,

My dude, they said “1950’s”, and “decades”. They’re no longer around cause it’s been decades since the last one has been produced.

vrighter,

but if they were “built to last” then surely we shouldn’t have needed much more produced after market saturation. And yet, they actually are vanishingly rare today. Which means most did break down

lightnsfw,

Don’t discount how much marketing convinces people they need to just buy new shit every few years either. I’ve seen a lot of perfectly functioning appliances replaced just because someone saw something they thought was nicer “on sale”.

SleepingTower,

Sure, I’ll agree that they did break down. Everything does at some point or another. Back then it was easier to repair your equipment and you had the right to. That’s why they were “built to last”

Then, as time passed, that changed. It became difficult to find the necessary parts for repairs.

Example: My father is a heavy equipment mechanic. I’d say somewhere in the last ten to twenty years, his suppliers started to refuse selling specific parts he needed because he’s an independent.

He also described to me how some jobs he takes today feel like he’s handling a bomb. If he so much as trips a stray sensor, a representative from the machine’s manufacturer will come sniffing around the yard to catch him.

Then there’s the knowledge required to perform the necessary repairs. The common sentiment I hear from people is that it’s cheaper to replace than to repair. They’re not wrong, however this way of thinking demotivates the need to learn how to repair it.

So yeah. Those built to last machines have broken down. Knowledge and parts for them have become difficult to acquire, however an enthusiast willing to put the time in to repair them will have a machine that hums for the rest of their lives.

Furedadmins,

Tons were thrown out for fashion or modernization, not because they broke down. Kitchens have trends that last around 7 years and even back then people wanted the latest designs.

Vqhm, (edited )

I’ve lived in at least 20 residences across 4 continents and only one of those was from the 1920s.

It still had an original stove.

That stove was the fucking best shit ever. It was amazing. I swear to God I have never been able to cook bacon so amazingly as on that stove top.

I don’t disagree that survivorship bias is a thing. And perhaps I had the best possible option of that era. I mean, yes with an induction top I can do great things. With an MSR dragonfly gas stove I can cook the camp a great breakfast anywhere in the world. I’ve cooked on wood fire stoves. I’ve cooked primitive fires in outback Australia and the himiliaya mountains… But there was something special about that 1920s stove that I’ve won’t ever forget.

TokenBoomer,

You either live an interesting life, or are a great storyteller. I choose to believe both.

TokenBoomer,

How do you downvote a compliment?

biddy,

Side note, MSR dragonflys are the shit. I love everything about them, the literal drink bottle of petrol you have to carry around, the crazy aluminium foil windshield, the pumping, the way they spray fuel everywhere as you light them, then the tower of flame that almost burns down the building as it primes. Cheap to run, indestructible, perfection.

bamboo,

I recently heard an interesting take on a podcast that prior to electronic calculators and especially computers, doing calculations was very tedious, time consuming, and not as precise for complex calculations. This resulted in things being over engineered to compensate.

Once it was easier to make calculations, you could easily figure out the minimum amount of resources needed to make a product last during the warranty period. With spreadsheets, you could have a complex view of all variables and tweak the materials to maximize profit, largely at the expense of durability.

This is I think one of many factors, including survivorship bias, why people feel like they don’t make em like they used to.

lightnsfw,

I don’t know, their lamp seemed pretty fragile.

Gordon,

Sounds Italian

possiblylinux127,

You mean you don’t like black face?

AnUnusualRelic,
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Isn’t that more like the 1920s?

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