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FartsWithAnAccent, to movies in Box Office: ‘The Marvels’ Gets Grounded With MCU’s Second-Lowest Opening Day Ever
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This is literally the first I’d heard of the movie. If it’s anything like the other marvel movies, it’ll be overwhelmingly OK (not terrible, not great).

morrowind, to movies in Box Office: ‘The Marvels’ Gets Grounded With MCU’s Second-Lowest Opening Day Ever
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It’s the lowest adjusted for inflation, not sure why they aren’t doing that that. They mention it in the article body.

Spacebar, to movies in Box Office: ‘The Marvels’ Gets Grounded With MCU’s Second-Lowest Opening Day Ever
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Genre fatigue. Too formulaic now as well.

AlwaysNowNeverNotMe, to movies in Box Office: ‘The Marvels’ Gets Grounded With MCU’s Second-Lowest Opening Day Ever
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Superhero movies are infantile comfort films, art is supposed to be challenging and interpretable. When you know the ending from the genre it's a bad movie.

Yet pseudo-nerds will sperg out over the meaningless cameos and "cannon implications."

deft,

ew wtf lol

Steve,

I’m not sure I’ve seen somone so proud of being a snob.

Well done.

AlwaysNowNeverNotMe,
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It's called having taste.

HeartyBeast,
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Oooh. What are your favourite films?

Norodix, (edited ) to movies in Box Office: ‘The Marvels’ Gets Grounded With MCU’s Second-Lowest Opening Day Ever

I think the first captain marvel was horrible. I think that plays a huge part.

Zorque,

You not liking the first movie means other people didn't go? Who are you to have such an enormous effect on the cinema going audience...

Norodix,

Wow. That is a silly thing to be pedantic about.

Zorque,

I do not think that word means what you think k it means.

JowlesMcGee,
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I think the inference to take from their comment is that by extension others probably didn't like it either, and so there is less excitement for a sequel to a movie that wasn't as well received.

Zorque,

Right, they're inferring that their opinion was universal. There was a lot of controversy @urrounding the movie, but it had little to do with the quality and a lot to do with peoples inability to remove personal biases from their viewing experience.

koolkiwi,
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Ah, a Reddit comment :)

Zorque,

Yours, more so ;)

HeartyBeast,
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I thought the 1st Captain Marvel was pretty fun. I don’t have much of an interest in seeing this though.

Pulptastic,

That NIN shirt was enough for me to be into it

Shyfer,

For what it’s worth, I think this one is more fun than the first one. Or most recent Marvel movies except for Guardians of the Galaxy 3. And I haven’t even seen Miss Marvel.

Ilovethebomb,

I struggle to think of a less likeable main character that wasn’t some sort of anti-hero. It takes talent to be that smug and condescending for an entire movie.

ParsnipWitch,

How did Captain Marvel struck you as smug in comparison to the truckload of arrogant and full-of-themselves characters in the Marvel universe? Thor, Drax, or Iron Man who is basically a narcissist.

Ilovethebomb,

They’re supposed to be like that though, especially Tony Stark, it’s part of their character arc. With Captain Marvel, it feels like she was supposed to be likeable, but it didn’t work out.

ParsnipWitch,

I try to understand what exactly made her seem “smug” to you. Especially when compared to other Marvel heroes.

Womble,

I cant speak for this in particular (I gave up watching marvel halfway through endgame), but its very different if a character comes across as smug and all the other characters are saying “God isnt he smug but we need him” and having a character that comes across as smug but all the other characters love them.

Silverseren, to movies in Box Office: ‘The Marvels’ Gets Grounded With MCU’s Second-Lowest Opening Day Ever

I haven't gone to see any movies for a while now. The effort to go to a theatre and all that just feels not worth it. I'd rather wait for the films to be available on something I can watch at home.

djsoren19, to movies in Box Office: ‘The Marvels’ Gets Grounded With MCU’s Second-Lowest Opening Day Ever

I feel like Disney already knew and was expecting this. The original Captain Marvel wasn’t very well received, and they seem to understand now that not everyone wants to consume every piece of MCU media all the time with the new “Spotlight” tag. I expect it’ll get a fast turnaround onto streaming.

c0mbatbag3l, to movies in Box Office: ‘The Marvels’ Gets Grounded With MCU’s Second-Lowest Opening Day Ever
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It’s almost like people are getting sick of the constant Marvel drip feed of content that’s been going on for years now.

dhtseany,

I remember when they had a big long-arc that was spread intelligently across all of the movies that built up to Endgame. I think they’ve forgotten this.

jordanlund,
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Phase 4 lost the plot. It’s like they didn’t know what to do after Endgame.

For the plot going forward, you have to see:

Wandavision (Disney+, Blu Ray this month)
Loki Season 1 (Disney+, fresh on Blu Ray)
Spider-Man: No Way Home
Doctor Strange: Multiverse of Madness
Ant-Man: Quantumania
Loki Season 2 (just finished)

Lauchs,

I think you’ve put your finger on it. The shows didn’t exist prior to Endgame. Now, they’re doing the same nonsense as 90s/early 2000s Marvel where if you wanted to understand everyone in large events (which happened all the time) you really needed to read a bunch of different series.

But, watching a ten episode show is a time committment and there are so many actually worthwhile shows that one can watch…

MrBusiness,

I think the biggest problem is they keep hamfisting action and comedy where it’s completely unnecessary. If something is worth watching people will find the time.

But they keep making the same mistakes on most of their stuff, like Wandavision was pretty good up until they decided they needed a big fight scene for the climax. Quantimania, Falcon & WS, Captain Marvel were milquetoast. Then you’ve got Thor L&T and Secret Invasion which were handled badly. It was weird to get Sam Raimi back for a one-off but not branching into the supernatural side of Marvel.

superduperenigma,

Jonathan Majors has really screwed up any plans they had for the current arc.

zipzoopaboop,

True, but that doesn’t fix their quality problem. Loki wasn’t bad but everything else since endgame has been unwatchable to boring and forgettable at best.

BigilusDickilus,

Guardians 3 was really good, but they just let Gunn do his thing and it wasn’t just trying to move the general plot along. I wish they had more stuff that was just doing it’s own thing.

Sagifurius,

I just saw Guardians three the other day finally. Did it feel to you like 20 minutes was missing out of the third act? It just suddenly stopped making linear sense.

Patches,

They reached a point where they just decided to wrap this shit up. We’ve only got 10 minutes of screen time left.

Sagifurius,

Needs a directors cut. It was really jarring and Warlock made no sense

Patches,

!They were going to kill Star Lord, and test screenings showed that didn’t go well and it shows. !<

Sagifurius,

Oh. Well that explains it I guess. It just seemed so hacked up, I can’t even watch it again because I noticed the first time, 2nd time the frantic pace won’t even mitigate

BigilusDickilus,

It’s been a while since I watched it. Could you elaborate a bit?

Sagifurius,

They completely glossed over how Warlock changed sides n why, and everyone was just running and changing scenes at such a frenetic pace that poorly hid the missing connector scenes. Plus that one all out fight scene and then bang they’re somewhere else for some reason

ours,

It didn’t help you need to watch hours of TV shows and X previous movies to have a superhero movie make sense.

c0mbatbag3l,
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That’s my point, you have to turn a hobby into a chore so that you can keep up.

It’s the same reason popular game franchises have also failed. 343i messed up the Halo franchise when they started putting plot critical events and information in side media like novels and comic books. The moment you cater to the hardcore fans who have no other interests, you alienate the more common fans that enjoy it but don’t make it their entire personality.

So now if you play Halo 5 you might be confused at what happened to the Didact, you know he survived Halo 4 but where is he? Oh. Right. He got killed in a comic book. Onto the next villain! Cortana took over the AI’s? Holy shit, this is going to fill up the whole next game! Just kidding, that conflict happened off screen and now you’re fighting the banished.

Marvel is doing this with their TV shows.

Perrin42, to movies in Box Office: ‘The Marvels’ Gets Grounded With MCU’s Second-Lowest Opening Day Ever

I mean, it also opened during an ongoing SAG-AFTRA strike that severely hampered promotion of the movie. So there is that.

I took the family to see it and we all loved it. I thought it was great personally.

TheImpressiveX,
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The SAG-AFTRA strike ended literally the day before it was released. Talk about irony.

altima_neo, to movies in Box Office: ‘The Marvels’ Gets Grounded With MCU’s Second-Lowest Opening Day Ever
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There was a new Marvel movie?

Something_Complex,

Same I only found out when my pirate site placed it there. I’m waiting for hd tho it’s still in cam

AnUnusualRelic,
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Of course, it’s a day in y.

KneeTitts,
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They havent remade the spiderman origin in a few weeks… time for 5 more of those to get in the pipline

modifier, to movies in Box Office: ‘The Marvels’ Gets Grounded With MCU’s Second-Lowest Opening Day Ever

Throw it on the pile with the others. I’ll get to it, probably never.

5in1k, to movies in Box Office: ‘The Marvels’ Gets Grounded With MCU’s Second-Lowest Opening Day Ever

My best friend is a total mark for Marvel and didn’t even know that a new one was out.

Ilovethebomb,

Really? I’ve been seeing advertising for this all over the place.

Kiosade,

I mean, i have been seeing the same damn trailer for it before every movie i’ve seen in theaters for months, and I still didnt realize it was coming out now.

AA5B, to movies in Box Office: ‘The Marvels’ Gets Grounded With MCU’s Second-Lowest Opening Day Ever

Interesting to see the general negative impressions contrasted with the other column here saying how great it is.

I’m still deciding whether to see it in theaters - I’m a huge fan of the Marvel universe and still want more superhero movies. Iman Vellani does a great job with an excellent character, and I loved how the story connected with her culture. Fantastic. However Captain Marvel was pretty much a non-entity and we had no idea who Monica Rambeau will be yet - I hope the movie gave some much needed character development

Powerpoint,

Theatres are dead. The experience just isn’t as good as home and the prices are disgusting now just like the theatres themselves.

KneeTitts,
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I have to agree, I hated Avatar 2 (liked the first one) and the theater experience made it 100 times worse. I went with an old friend that I havent seen in years, and a young guy in line behind us kept asking us if we were gay… like literally 20 times, he was completely obsessed with it to the point of harassment. I will NEVER go to a theater again, ever.

Soggy,

Until I can spend many thousands of dollars on a home theater room it will be an inferior experience to going out. I don’t need to pause to make snacks, or put captions on, or whatever. I’m happy to pay fifteen dollars for the occasional ticket and then fifteen more for eight cents worth of soda and popcorn loaded with salt and butter-flavored-oil because I know theaters don’t see a pock of the ticket money.

I want a comfy recliner, a giant screen, outrageous sound volume, and two hours of uninterrupted movie. The places I usually go to are clean, I’ve never had a problem with rude patrons (the occasional restless child at family movies, sure), and I feel like I get good entertainment for the money. It’s not a weekly thing, maybe monthly.

Chetzemoka,

My local theater is packed almost every night of the week. There were flocks of entire families with kids dressed up in costumes to see both Mario and Barbie. I traveled an hour to see Oppenheimer in proper IMAX and there wasn’t an empty seat in the house. Theaters definitely are not dead.

awesome357,

It can be very well executed, but that doesn’t change that it’s a movie nobody really asked for. Unless there is demand to see it then it doesn’t matter how well done it is. And endorcements of “it’s actually good despite expectations” doesn’t really generate a lot of excitement either.

Chetzemoka, (edited )

I am also a huge Marvel fan and I saw it Thursday night in a packed theater. My opinion is that all the pieces of one of the best Marvel movies are there, and just weren’t put together properly. The leads have great chemistry, Iman Vellani is brilliant as always, the main plot point makes for unique and interesting fight scenes, and they let it get goofy in just the right ways (princesses and kittens, that’s all I’m saying.)

But the overall pacing of the entire movie is SO bad. It feels so rushed. None of the fun or poignant things that are legitimately good are allowed to hang around on screen long enough to sink in. There are important plot points that move so fast they leave you wondering what just happened. Which is so disappointing. I was really excited that this might be the one that finally got Marvel out of their pandemic-induced production problems. Instead it’s just another Marvel movie that I’ll only see once.

Whoresradish,

I felt the same same way. It felt like all of these important parts of the plotline were skipped or got 1 line explanations. A lot of the emotional parts got about 5 to 10 seconds of screen time before moving on to the next part.

SpoilerCan someone explain how a giant intelligence kept the air and water on a planet from floating away and made sure the sun kept burning?

Chetzemoka,

Yeah that whole thing was glossed over. I don’t think it’s much of a spoiler, but it was the civil war that happened after the Supreme Intelligence was destroyed that decimated the environment. But no explanation how or why that led to the star being too dim. And the thing that was set up as the next big battle at the end of CM1 (destroying the Supreme Intelligence) happened off screen between the movies. It was just so frustrating

Whoresradish,

If you are a big marvel fan then go see it. It is not a great MCU film but it is also not bad. You will get some good laughs and fight scenes and get some mild emotional moments. I enjoyed it in theaters, but recognize that it is not as good as say GOTG3 or Spiderman NWH.

SeabassDan,

What I don’t really like is people telling me I shouldn’t let myself be swayed by critics and should watch it and make up my own mind.

That’s stupid. I’m reading the reviews to decide if I wanna watch it or not. I don’t wanna spend my money and a couple hours of my life to decide if it was worth it if some people whose judgement I’ve trusted in the past tell me it’s gonna be trash.

gornius,

Don’t get swayed specifically by critics. I swear most critics in the film and video game industry have the weirdest takes ever, while they should represent an average joe. There have been many movies which have been obliterated by critics, which have been quite popular and fun, as well as many awful movies, which have been praised by critics.

JasSmith,

The gap between critics and audiences has never been wider. The Last Jedi had an audience score of 42% on Rotten Tomatoes, while critics scored it 91%. It raises the question: what exactly is the purpose of critics? They used to exist to tell regular people if they’d like movies. That’s clearly no longer their goal. I’ve given up on critic scores entirely. I use IMDB ratings, even though Amazon has been caught deleting negative ratings about The Rings of Power.

Nefara,

Rotten Tomatoes scores are highly suspect now and especially can’t be trusted with Disney properties. The guy who runs it literally used to be a Disney Digital exec.

ours,

The “don’t listen to the critics” argument sounds a lot like what I’ve heard for many IMHO terrible DC movies.

bluestribute, to movies in Box Office: ‘The Marvels’ Gets Grounded With MCU’s Second-Lowest Opening Day Ever

After seeing Dr. Strange and not understanding the entire movie engine because I don’t have Disney+ I stopped watching MCU movies. I’d love to go see this movie now that I know it’s out but why spend time and money watching actors in front of a green screen doing things I don’t understand because I didn’t watch multiple TV shows?

Socsa, to movies in Box Office: ‘The Marvels’ Gets Grounded With MCU’s Second-Lowest Opening Day Ever

Just let it die. Start making original scripts.

Anyolduser,

But creativity is hard and risky. Can I interest you in a milquetoast film written by committee instead? I promise it was made with almost no planning or preparation and rushed out the door.

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