Here I’ll start: you are kind of awesome Flying Squid, making Lemmy worth coming to day in and day out… even if the thought of your Eldritch strangeness does terrify me! :-P
Thank you, OpenStars, that is very kind of you. And if I didn’t have the Lemmy equivalent of face blindness, I’m sure I would have similar nice things to say about you. You seem like a very nice person!
However, as far as Eldrich strangeness goes, worry no more! Our natural world is strange enough!
Gaza didn’t do that. Hamas did that. And now Gaza is being bombed to smithereens. My comparison sticks. “Why did you make me do this” is such a common thing to hear from narcissists who take no responsibility for their own actions. The IDF do not need to respond to violence with more violence, and nobody is making them. The appropriate and honorable reaction would be to set up the rigorous spy network they should have had from the get-go, and capture and prosecute the actual people of Hamas who assaulted them, not bomb the everloving shit out of Gaza.
What incentive would they have to hold back? The propaganda war was pretty much lost for Isreal after multiple disinformation stories were uncritically amplified by western media. The people who hate them won’t change their mind if they stop. Hamas clearly has to go and what you’re describing might make for a good spy novel but would be a shitty military tactic. What they are doing isn’t pretty but probably necessary and easily justified.
You make two pretty bad assertions here bud. First, there’s no incentive. That’s the point. It’s kind of a big part of self-governing. Like when somebody puts a grocery cart away instead of leaving it in the parking lot, except where this example is ultimately of no consequence, not killing innocent people is the baseline.
Second, military tactic my ass. I’m not talking about military tactics, I’m talking about ways to punish Hamas. There’s a lot of ways to do it, and this GENOCIDE is THE wrong way to do it.
Given the history of the land and amount of casualties, I’d be generous to Israel to even attribute 50% of the fault to Hamas, but I’d like to hear why you believe they are at fault for 90% of it? Got no stakes here outside of the humanitarian crisis, just want to understand better.
They are the ones benefitting from civilian casualties as opposed to Israel. They are the ones shooting from civilian infrastructure and holding their own women and children hostage. So as far as I’m concerned Hamas is getting them killed, either deliberately or because they simply don’t care.
The issue is beyond complex to capture in a single comment.
But the big issue no one will look past (nor should they) is how Israel would fare without US support and iron dome. Or how cease fire resulted in deaths.
Two can be true, Israel government is evil and so is Hamas. But at the same time, Israeli people shouldn’t be pushed under the rug like they don’t matter. It’s hypocrisy to only back Palestine and ignore what Israeli people go through. I don’t think I would be very happy knowing a missile can land on my head at any moment or myself or my family could be murdered/raped/captured any day… Then to add to it, some random redditor will call it “bullshit” because I can’t prove my loved ones are missing.
A comment that forever will haunt me, believe all rape victims unless they’re Jewish. It’s beyond fucked how people picked sides. It’s not a contest of who has it worse. Both populations live in fear and would be wiped out if the opposite government has its way. It’s just happen Israel is going on a bigger rampage and will use any provocation to keep it up.
How do you solve it? I don’t know. As I said, it’s fucked but I’m sick and tired of people painting it black and white because they read a smart looking comment on reddit/twitter/seen stupid uneducated twat make political comments on youtube.
Without hamas doing hamas shit, the global political sphere would have to acknowledge the reality. But both sides are invested into the slaughter continuing.
The UN or ICC or whoever are not the world police.
They are supposed to be, though, and would be if the Big 5 on the security council would let them.
what they can do at this stage is very limited.
Especially since they’re hamstrung by the dogged US government insistence that everyone’s eyes and ears have been lying about Israel for the past 75 years.
lemmyshitpost
Hot
This magazine is from a federated server and may be incomplete. Browse more on the original instance.