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artvabas, in The most secure OS named windows

The typo is Windows with a capital W, the rest is just not true, please don’t lie😜

Lmaydev, (edited )

Yeah it literally pops a screen sized warning when anything tries to run as admin. Linux is very vulnerable as well. Hackers are just really good at what they do.

pewgar_seemsimandroid,

i am going to turn your skull into pasta

mariusafa, in Just because it’s better than windows doesn’t make it good

I mean macos is Unix certified. But *nix systems are better.

yote_zip, in So sad when it happens
@yote_zip@pawb.social avatar

I’ve seen a trend where people move the goalposts on the reasons they’re not able to switch. “If only this program worked I could switch”, but when that program is ported it’ll be a new excuse next. Sooner or later you’ll have to draw a line and say “99% of my stuff works, the 1% that doesn’t can get bent”.

Cethin,

I had used Linux before so I wasn’t too worried, but gaming for me was the reason. With Proton I had the desire to switch, but I needed something to just push me over the edge. I wasn’t taking the leap on my own. For one Windows update it put the search bar back on the Taskbar, which I had told it to remove. Microsoft, once again, ignoring what I had told it before to try to force me to use something is the thing that pushed me over. It’s such a small thing, but it’ll be different for everyone.

I don’t blame anyone for not switching. It’s a fairly large change (though not as large as some imagine). Most people will just stick with what they know until something comes along that makes them trip up, and then the thing they know is seen as a hindrance. That’s going to be different for everyone. We just need to inform people that, when that thing comes, there is an option for them that will handle pretty much whatever they need.

MonkderZweite, (edited )

Just install Linux parallel (most installers recognize Windows) and switch entirelly after you’re fed up with the hassle.

sock,

that means they’re lying to you so you stop asking

kryllic,
@kryllic@programming.dev avatar

Or better yet, that 1% can run in a VM

TheCheddarCheese,
@TheCheddarCheese@lemmy.world avatar

or on wine

ObviouslyNotBanana,
@ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world avatar

Wine is so much better these days it’s not even funny

franklin,
@franklin@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, they’re doing great work.

Frostbeard,

Diablo 4 and 3. Thats my dealbreaker

spudwart,
@spudwart@spudwart.com avatar

www.protondb.com/app/2344520 - Platinum

And from what I can see Diablo 3 works fine with Lutris.

Burninator05,

I haven’t tried D4 but D3 works fine.

five82,
@five82@lemmy.world avatar

Diablo 4 works on Linux, PlayStation and Xbox. Diablo 3 works on the same plus Mac and Switch.

Sylvartas,

Diablo 4 works perfectly with proton experimental on my steam deck tho

Voyajer,
@Voyajer@lemmy.world avatar

Diablo 3 has worked with wine for a very long time.

bighatchester,

I switched to Ubuntu a few months ago and the only thing that doesn’t work are a few online games due to anti-cheat software and those games I’ll just play on PS5 now. I don’t see myself ever going back at this point. Every issue I have encountered I’ve been able to resolve with a quick google search. Google search has been getting kinda shitty so that’s the next thing I’m looking to replace.

MigratingtoLemmy,

Time to host your own SearXng instance

Suspicious_Bee,
@Suspicious_Bee@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

If you’re willing to pay for a search engine, I highly recommend Kagi. I’ve been using it for a few months and I like the results better than Google or any other search engine I’ve tried.

Andrew15_5,
@Andrew15_5@mander.xyz avatar

At this point I have used duckduckgo for years with no issues.

dual_sport_dork,
@dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world avatar

And the reason is going to be “enterprise” software, which is usually a pile of a flaming wreck that barely runs in its native Windows environment in the first place. So it is with the point of sale/inventory software I have to use for work. I can run it in a VM, but it explodes spectacularly in Wine.

cybersandwich,

Sometimes that’s reasonable. If the stuff you need doesn’t work, fighting it or pushing that boulder up hill is not worth it.

You may not realize certain things are deal breakers until they are stating you in the face.

lolcatnip,

Moving goalposts is a concept that applies to debates. Choosing an operating system shouldn’t be a debate. It’s a personal choice, or sometimes a professional choice. Convincing people who don’t want to be convinced shouldn’t be anyone’s goal.

yote_zip,
@yote_zip@pawb.social avatar

I didn’t mean my post to be read as trying to convince someone to use Linux, but as someone trying to convince themselves to use Linux. It’s fairly common that people want to switch but have convinced themselves that unless they have their exact same workflow from Windows they won’t be able to.

Taleya,

Well, no duh.

M$ has been the dominant OS for the majority of a lot of peoples lives, accordingly a massive, massive ecosystem has grown up around it.

My IT career has taken me some weird and wonderful places, and there is a lot of extremely specialised software that will only run on windows, and wine unfortunately still has a bit of a stigma with its interoperability. When you’re running shit a business literally relies on to exist, you don’t play games with it.

Fortunately m$ are shooting themselves in the face, which is driving a lot of vendors to rethink their software., but it’s still a slog.

GladiusB,
@GladiusB@lemmy.world avatar

It’s scary. Straight up. You don’t know if changing it will put you into a situation where there is no one there to help. All your information is on these machines and Windows for all it’s faults is a bought product with customer service.

Making a change without a safety net or someone to walk you through it is ballsy. Research is important and no offense, hard to find for Linux. Sure there are many “how to” videos and scenarios. But what if I play a game and I cannot absolutely live without it. And all of its plugins?

neshura,
@neshura@bookwormstory.social avatar

customer service

Not unless you’re a business customer lol, don’t get me wrong they do support but the quality really isn’t much above a community Linux forum (at least where I live). Not that the average Joe knows that so the claim is still a valid reason why people don’t switch.

boomzilla, (edited )

I went to MS forums for remembering how to write “sfc /scannow”, “Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /CheckHealth”, because it was often the first answer on a post. How-To’s concerning “bootrec” and “diskpart” were always to be found somewhere else. At least with sfc and dism it was always pray and hope it does something useful under the hood.

With an unbootable Linux partition (which seldomly happens) I mount it, chroot it and then have a plethora of fixes I can try, tools I can use and logfiles I can check instead of putting my self in the hands of 2-3 blackbox-apps. Manual fixing under Windows is possible but nobody can tell me it’s feasible with the repair console.

sirico, in So sad when it happens
@sirico@feddit.uk avatar

Can’t force em, let them live with their choices.

aard, in The most secure OS named windows
@aard@kyu.de avatar

Windows NT 3.5 and later NT 4 had C2 security certifications - assuming the system was not connected to a network, and didn’t have floppy drives (this was before USB was a thing).

tehBishop,

Dang, a post from 1999!

ivanafterall, in So sad when it happens
@ivanafterall@kbin.social avatar

A real Linux boi would rewrite the program from scratch custom tailored to his personal needs.

JoMiran,
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

I run Arch , by the way.

ivanafterall,
@ivanafterall@kbin.social avatar

sploosh

manofdiamond,

I use gentoo, fyi

firecat,

Until remember patient exists and legally cannot create another copy. Sure you made one yourself but can never release it to the public.

ZILtoid1991,
@ZILtoid1991@kbin.social avatar

Even without that, things can go really bad:

  1. You're the only developer, then you burn out on the project.
  2. You underbake the UI so much your project becomes infamous for how hard it is to use, complete with an elitist userbase that just screams "git gud" memes at everyone asking for help (most often happens to dev tools).

The rare occasion, it'll become like Krita, modern Blender, Audacity, etc.

agent_flounder,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.world avatar

Ha you think I can possibly code a UI ? Command line only. Maybe curses if absolutely necessary.

Still under baked…

Taleya,

S2g linux users are their own worst enemies

ivanafterall,
@ivanafterall@kbin.social avatar

If you aren't creating custom software to address one-off needs, are you really a Linux user?

TheCheddarCheese,
@TheCheddarCheese@lemmy.world avatar

i feel so incompetent compared to other linux users, like i didnt even know flatpak had a repair command until today

turbowafflz,

I’ve been using linux for 10 or 11 years and I also didn’t know flatpak had a repair command, so don’t feel too bad

ivanafterall,
@ivanafterall@kbin.social avatar

If it makes you feel any better, I'm a total fraud. I've used Linux Mint a few times, so now I can say I'm a Linux user.

ProfessorProteus,
@ProfessorProteus@lemmy.world avatar

Exactly the same with me. Very occasional Mint user. I will never touch Win11, so when Win10 hits EoL I’m screwed if I haven’t learned to deal with the friction of learning Linux.

I may end up regressing to a PC-less monke until I figure it out. Windows can kiss my primate ass.

agent_flounder,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.world avatar

Same (after reading this comment). Flatpak is some new fangled contraption. /s

A person can’t know everything.

oatscoop,

Feh.

The only flatpacks I trust are made in Sweden.

asexualchangeling,

Meanwhile I’m over here, not used windows on my own machine in more than 1.75 years and I don’t even touch the terminal most of the time, I know how some commands work, but I hardly touch them

I should really learn to do more with it, but I have my system setup and working how I like, So I don’t really have motivation to learn to do all this other cool stuff

Buffalox, (edited ) in So sad when it happens

Personally 6570 days without windows, and counting.

doink,

I am close to that at home but use windows almost every day at work. Cry in shower time.

user224,
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

6461 days for me

xkforce, in The most secure OS named windows

Tbf windows defender is pretty good.

ichbinjasokreativ,

It’s way too reliant on their cloud infrastructure though, causing it to detect and react to malware slower than other solutions and it turns to shit the second the network disconnects. The PC security channel on YouTube has some good analysis of it.

Dettweiler42,

To be honest, for most users, if they’re not on the Internet; it’s not that big of a deal for their antivirus to be less effective. Most threats come from being dumb on the web.

Bishma,
@Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

It has to be, Otherwise Windows would have succumb to microsoft’s antisecure culture by now.

agent_flounder,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.world avatar

Anti-secure culture? Things have changed a lot since the days of Nimda, SQL Slammer, etc.

mctoasterson,

It is fucking horrible with false positives though. RIP if you have a Kali ISO sitting on one of your drives.

That and the Antimalware service executable gets hung up and chugs 30-50% of your CPU and RAM and won’t stop.

cygnus, in So sad when it happens
@cygnus@lemmy.ca avatar

TFW you’ve never heard of a virtual machine

user224,
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

If only Virtualbox 7 didn’t fuck up 3D acceleration.

cygnus,
@cygnus@lemmy.ca avatar

How about VMware?

user224,
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I didn’t try that one yet.

cygnus,
@cygnus@lemmy.ca avatar

I use the free version for my Win10 VM. It works well, plus it’s super easy to share folders between guest and host. I’m not sure about 3D though, I use it for Photoshop & Illustrator.

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  • SuperIce,

    Isn’t that only for Linux guests?

    aniki,

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    Don’t you need a second GPU for passthrough?

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  • boomzilla,

    I already used QEMU which was a heck more complicated than VirtualBox, although I got MacOS Big Sur running with acceptable speed at the end. Sadly no-joy with NVidia single GPU passthrough in the apple garden. But I plan to do it for Windows 10 because I want that fucking 1TB NVMe that the big ass of my Windows install is hibernating on for the second year.

    What GPU are you using and if it’s Nvidia, was it difficult to enable?

    user224,
    @user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    Hmm, that sounds good. After all, it seems I’ll have to learn using QEMU soon anyway.

    Norgur, in Just because it’s better than windows doesn’t make it good

    I vividly remember when a friend of mine who runs a small graphic design studio was sent an archive file macOS couldn't open natively and asked me for help. Never having used a Mac and without any clue as to which tools the stupid app shop (which was rather new at the time) held, I couldn't for the life.of me get the blasted thing to obey me, until I found a terminal. I then installed build utils and compiled the frickin' unpacker I needed myself since it only had Linux binaries. Worked like a charm.

    sxan, (edited )
    @sxan@midwest.social avatar

    I think it’s gotten better, but I still have a bad taste in my mouth from the countless times MacOS was too stupid to recognize a file type, and absolutely rejected all attempts to tell it what it was. I almost always found a way around it, but it would sometimes take dozens of minutes of fighting with the OS; these times almost made me long for Windows.

    Apple’s position that users are fucking idiots may be usually justified, but they consistently violate the “… and make the uncommon possible” rule. The philosophy that the OS is always right is frustrating.

    Norgur,

    Our phones aren't bad at reception, you are holding them wrong

    Petter1,

    Next time, just install hombrew 😇 in the terminal, of course

    CapeWearingAeroplane,

    I can agree that fighting apples UI’s can get frustrating (i.e. playing the “try to find the right button” game). What makes me think macs are great is that you get all the freedom you could wish for in a terminal that is unix-compliant, while also getting the reliability of a hugely widespread OS that a bunch of good developers are paid to maintain. With the new macs you also get the apple silicon hardware, which is great.

    I think most people that use macs indeed do need the safety rails, but at the same time they bother me. I know how to disable them within 15 mins of setting up my computer, but if I’m helping someone with an issue, I sometimes first need to spend some time disabling safety nets and installing the tools I need. Also: Shoving iCloud storage down my throat is shit. They should stop that.

    ZILtoid1991, in Just because it’s better than windows doesn’t make it good
    @ZILtoid1991@kbin.social avatar

    MacOS is way more often worse than Windows than how Linux does it.

    Linux sometimes have important settings hidden in config files that are different in every distro. Sometimes an API is legit worse in Linux, than in Windows.

    MacOS has a lot of things that cannot be set at all, constantly deprecated APIs, not to mention it's locked into overpriced hardware. CoreAudio was only better than the Windows native offerings until XAudio came, and Pipewire for Linux seems promising from at least a developer standpoint.

    db2,

    MacOS is way more often worse than Windows than how Linux does it.

    Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

    thorbot,

    they don’t think it be like it is, but it do

    Pipoca,

    That’s different, in that its grammatical in a dialect but not in Standard American English.

    In particular, it’s using the ‘habitual be’. It’s saying something like “people don’t think it always is like it currently is, but it’s always like this.”

    thorbot,

    It’s a Futurama quote, my dude

    Pipoca, (edited )

    “They don’t think it be like it is, but it do” is originally a quote from a Yankees player, Oscar Gamble, about Yankees management in 1975.

    It’s a sensible, grammatical construction in his native dialect, but is well remembered mostly because it isn’t very sensible in SAE.

    thorbot,

    That is a neat tidbit! Thanks for sharing

    Pipoca,

    As an aside, what Futurama episode did they quote him in?

    thorbot,

    They don’t think it be like it is, but it do

    I already did!

    Pipoca, (edited )

    Am I missing something? Ctrl-f on en.m.wikipedia.org/…/List_of_Futurama_episodes doesnt turn up an episode with that name, and googling “they don’t think it be like it is but it do Futurama” turns up nothing interesting.

    thorbot,

    Honestly I don’t know which episode but I 100% guarantee it’s in the show because that’s where I heard it first.

    ZILtoid1991,
    @ZILtoid1991@kbin.social avatar

    Sometimes it's better, sometimes it's worse, all depending on your usecase.

    Quetzalcutlass, (edited )

    They also charge developers for the privilege of compiling their programs for Apple platforms* (and using one of the worst IDEs known to man).

    ^(*Yes, you can technically compile apps with a free account, but AFAIK they will be restricted to only run on the developer’s machines unless you shell out $99 a year.)

    CapeWearingAeroplane,

    wat? You have the whole gcc suite on macOS. What kind of black magic are you trying to compile? I’ve cross-compiled a bunch of libraries for mac on intel and arm chips without much issues…?

    Oisteink,

    Just move to EU - we’re getting side loading

    nave,

    That’s only on iOS you can run whatever you want on on MacOS.

    lud,

    Unless it’s 32 bit of course.

    Bishma, in So sad when it happens
    @Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    I’m currently learning FreeCAD so that the one machine I still have sitting around to run Fusion360 can be liberated from Windows at long last. And as a bonus I won’t have to keep updating NoMachine every couple weeks.

    thantik, (edited )

    FreeCAD is such garbage though. In something like 6 months, CadSketcher blender plugin made something that was far more functional, and FreeCAD has been in development for 20 years and it still can’t provide a logical, cohesive CAD experience.

    Honestly, Solidworks is my hangup too, so I get the willingness to castrate yourself in order to just move to Linux finally. I’m thinking of moving over to their 3DExperienceWorks product that runs in the browser. If it handles my workflow, and I can get the cheap “maker” license without them ever asking me to upgrade it, then I’m finally down to switch full time.

    The other big problem that I generally have is window-decoration and padding. I need to find a window manager where I can have things with embedded tabs but pixel-perfect edges. I like a single-pixel edge to my applications and as dense as possible window title bars.

    Now that Firefox is releasing Wayland enabled by default, it might be the time to try again.

    HeyLow,

    I feel that the no machine updates are insane

    I_Miss_Daniel,

    Is Rustdesk an option?

    Bishma,
    @Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    Might be, but all remote access software sucks to some degree. I’d much rather not need it all by not having an old windows box I need to remote into.

    nogrub,

    icome from solidworks and use oneshape now its cloud based but for personal use free and its pretty simmilar to solideworks

    Bishma,
    @Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    I’m not OK with all my models being public unless I pay.

    cedeho, in The most secure OS named windows

    Most Windows Programs running with root access is like, I don’t know… Windows XP era maybe?

    Honytawk,

    This is Linuxmemes, what did you expect?

    Up-to-date knowledge of other systems? lol

    cedeho,

    “Up-to-date” is quite unfitting for ~17-18 years :P

    agent_flounder,
    @agent_flounder@lemmy.world avatar

    Probably pre-SP2 for that matter.

    1337,

    Windows ME was the last edition to make this assumption. NT was never like that.

    kernelle,

    UAC was introduced with vista, IIRC in xp any program would inherit the privileges of the user running them

    kat_angstrom, in How do I exit vim?

    :q!

    OddFed, (edited )
    @OddFed@feddit.de avatar

    :!pkill vim

    user224,
    @user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar
    kn33, in Can you install thid 25 year old program?

    Both of them:

    Program: crashes

    user224,
    @user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    weirdoldlib.so.13: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

    TimeSquirrel,
    @TimeSquirrel@kbin.social avatar

    Googles wierdoldlib.so.13

    Comes across forum post:

    "Hey guys, I'm trying to run this ancient-ass game, and Linux says I need this thing apparently?"

    "Update: never mind, I fixed it."

    cygnus,
    @cygnus@lemmy.ca avatar

    A wave of rage crashed over me at that last line. WHYYYY do they always do that?

    absGeekNZ,
    @absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz avatar

    That last line…deep breath…

    Blackmist,

    Or they leave a link to the solution.

    The link is dead.

    tslnox,

    And is not on archive.org either.

    MashedTech,

    There should be an app that every time you copy a link to the clipboard it sends a request to archive.org to archive that url.

    skqweezy,

    Sounds like a security nightmare but it could work in certain cases (like just yesterday I was sharing a google drive link, I probably don’t want that to be archived)

    Phen,

    I always thought one day stack overflow would join April fool’s and display variations of “never mind, found it” on every question instead of the users’ response, but it never happened and now that the site is no longer generally relevant if wouldn’t be as fun anymore.

    MashedTech,

    Why is stack overflow no longer relevant?

    Phen,

    Isn’t it dying? I haven’t seen any numbers tbh, it just feels like it is.

    hakunawazo,
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