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vrek, in friendly PSA: not all jews are white

Ok this is a legit question, not trying to troll or bait… Are there African or east Asian jews? Like Jewish communities in Ghana or Thailand for example?

datendefekt,
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First thing coming to mind are the Jews in Ethiopia.

FUBAR,

There are East Asian Jews en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaifeng_Jews

ArtikBanana, (edited )

Yup.
Ethiopian Jews, Indian Jews, and tiny communties of Chinese and Japanese Jews.

Edit: There are more, but those are mostly Jews that ran away / were expelled from other countries.
Like Jews in Thailand who fled Russia and Iran.

vrek,

Interesting, I only hear of American, European or Middle East jews.

ArtikBanana,

Indian Jews are also the only ones amongst Jewish communities who haven’t faced any discrimination. Despite their presence in India for around 2,000 years.

Melkath, (edited )

"Jewish" gets used with the loose definition of "people who have been expelled from their homeland."

Judaism is the religion formed by the people who were expelled from Egypt. They left Egypt to settle in Israel and establish Judaism.

Over the years, Christianity and Islam gained a foothold in the region, until the UN shoved the inhabitants of Israel into Palestine.

Arguably, modern Palestinians, who largely practice Islam, are Jews.

This leads me to the question, is the term "antisemitic" specific to Judaism or does it cover other types of Jews?

Depending on the answer, you can call modern Israel antisemitic against Palestinian Jews, who want their homeland back, or at the very least to stop being oppressed in the place that they were exiled to. This would make anyone who supports Israel antisemitic.

Edit: Bonus funfact, there is almost perfect overlap on how "Jew" gets used and how "Gypsy" get used. The key difference is that Jews TEND to move from an origin to a destination. Gypsies TEND to have an era of transience. Some Jews get displaced more than once before they can lay down roots. Some Gypsies get displaced so many times that they just go full on nomad/caravan lifestyle and never really stop moving around.

"Gypsy" and "Jew" don't have hard universally accepted definitions, and both of them are derogatory terms. People who identified with (or who were identified as) either of the 2 were targeted equally during the Holocaust, Gypsies were just more efficient at getting the fuck out before being loaded into the trains.

You should never say "I really got Jewed/Gypped by that guy." Both are EXTREMELY offensive terms, and people got sent to ovens over those words being used on them. The Holocaust was not all about Judaic Jews.

vrek,

Thank you for the knowledgeable and helpful post

ExIsraeliAnarchist, (edited )

That person really doesn't seem to know what they're talking about (Jews did not originate in Egypt, the UN didn't "shove" anyone to the land, Jewish settlement has been continuous in the region, and after decades of pogroms which culminated in the Holocaust, many who were in the diaspora ended up returning since they didn't feel safe anywhere else, but more importantly, like so many fleeing war and genocide today - were simply not welcomed by the "allies". There is also no such argument that anyone who lives on that land qualifies as Jewish, that's not how Judaism works, there are Israelis and Palestinians of all and no religion), I recommend reading some actual sources for yourself if you want to know more:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origins_of_Judaism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_and_Judaism_in_the_Land_of_Israel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_diaspora

And of course I have to defend myself in advance - despite all of the above, I am not denying that the state of Israel is occupying some lands illegally, and is oppressing and ethnically cleansing Palestine.
Both peoples have a rightful claim to parts of that land (and will, eventually, have to share other parts, or all die trying to be the only ones in control), and all deserve to live peacefully side by side on their homelands.

vrek,

Like I said I asked the question in good faith and did not mean anything negative. It was out of pure ignorance and the desire to correct that ignorance.

I think the prime example of your point of “being on this land doesn’t make you Jewish” is the hagie sophiea. It’s a ancient place of worship that has been “owned” by multiple religions over the years.

ExIsraeliAnarchist,

Oh, my criticism wasn't of you, but of the person who replied to you with a load of nonsense. People tend to ignore/simplify/skew the history to fit their agenda (or are too lazy to make the kind of effort you are to understand), so it's good to look at the actual documented history.

As for the Hagia Sophia comparison, I can see where you're coming from, but this is all on a much bigger scale, which by default makes it much more complicated t figure out. But the first step is wanting to know, and you're there, so good job!

dorron, in Plus your enemy knows what's coming

Thunder breathing, first form

I’d have lost 90% of my hype if it wasn’t announced

Trollception, in Maybe it'll be the best year yet

I loved 2023. Best year so far!

Anticorp, in When somebody laughes at your Facebook post, but you were being serious

Just cancel Facebook all-together

galoisghost, in Australians
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¡ʎǝʞıɹƆ

GrammatonCleric, in Australians
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This really is just Reddit with a different name

RedditWanderer, (edited )

Youre telling me a website made to be like reddit, built and visited by the people of reddit to share content from reddit was supposed to be different to reddit?

The difference is in the ownership but its the same place really.

Zoot,

Which is just how I hoped it would be personally. Tad bit nicer, though lately rather hostile. Must be some stressful holidays.

MargotRobbie, in Maybe it'll be the best year yet
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2024 will be the year of esteemed Academy Award winning character actress Margot Robbie.

I can feel it.

Noodle07,

I really hope so! The alternatives look really grim right now

ininewcrow, in Courting is now in session
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I’m so dreamy, it’ll give you sleep paralysis

Purgatoryemployee,

I’m paralyzed by your eyes anyway

LemmyKnowsBest, (edited )

twin girls named AL could be Pair AL o’ sisters

guyrocket, in Some of y'all will be getting these for Christmas. Be prepared. You're welcome.
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I feel dumber after reading that.

Bz2486, in So much energy

Nah bro…Dink it up

ImplyingImplications, in Courting is now in session

Fun fact: In Japan you say your hobby is sleeping instead of saying you don’t have a hobby

TigrisMorte, in friendly PSA: not all jews are white

nyet n yahoo doesn't care about them though.

LemmyKnowsBest,

🤣 нетняху

Agrivar,

“nyet n yahoo”

Damn, that’s a good one!

stebo02, in How time flies
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recent conversation with my mom:

I’ve booked an appointment on the 27th

What? That’s within three weeks!

That’s… next week

oh…

Seaguy05, in Courting is now in session

“Intoresting” ftfy

Purgatoryemployee,

🤣

Seaguy05,

Haha clever

AllonzeeLV, (edited ) in No wonder he's always cranky.

Being Bruce Wayne doesn’t take much time at all. Being a capital landlord just means barking a few orders and paying other people to actually work.

A boardroom meeting here, a fancy party there.

This was portrayed very well in the Nolan trilogy.

If anything he’s Batman or training/prepping to be batman 12+ hours a day, sleeping 6-8 or maintaining muscle would be next to impossible(if he is in fact supposed to be human), and the rest to being a billionaire CEO.

Donkter,

I think in-cannon he’s very reclusive. Only appearing for dinner parties and public announcements etc.

discostjohn,

Totally. Alfred and Dick are always encouraging him to get out more as Bruce Wayne to help sell the playboy facade, but he just doesn’t have time for it.

Case,

I seem to recall an interaction between Bats, Superman, and WW.

All lassoed with the lasso of truth and stating their real identities.

Two give their real birth names, and Bats just identifies as batman, revealing that Bruce is absolutely his alter ego, billionaire mask he wears in public.

Odo,
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