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dustyData, in Times have changed

This is why 4:3 should become the default aspect ratio for taking videos on phone.

No, I will not be taking questions at this moment.

fogstormberry,

great idea, but 1:1 is what it should have always been

TheGreenGolem, (edited )
@TheGreenGolem@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Nah, we should use some freedom aspect ratio, like 1.47266478:1.984772673

AltheaHunter,

π:e

jaybone,

Is that imperial or metric pi?

AltheaHunter,

Galactic Standard

daltotron,

We are now to use 1x√2 as the optimal aspect ratio, as to allow screens to be put side by side, and then turned into larger screens.

ray,

I could definitely get on board with extending ISO 216 to include a standardized set of screen sizes with this aspect ratio.

Zorg,
@Zorg@lemmings.world avatar

3:2 please

someguy3,

1:1

kamen,

Vertical or horizontal?

/s

Exusia,
@Exusia@lemmy.world avatar

Galaxy Fold camera has this as the default dimensions. (The screen is also 4:3)

b000rg,

I shoot in 4:3 because it’s closer to the actual sensor’s resolution. No I have never looked this up, and no I will not change my ways if told otherwise.

taiyang, in Times have changed

My pro move is too change halfway in the same clip so at some point the orientation is just wrong no matter what you do. I also do diagonal shots.

I’m not allowed to film anymore.

LostXOR,

Diagonal is the compromise solution.

TommySalami,

Call it a dutch angle, and suddenly you’re a cinematographer

jaybone,

I film upside down and call it the Australian angle.

Then I film this joke and call it the dead horse angle.

GladiusB,
@GladiusB@lemmy.world avatar

If you do a dutch oven with a dutch angle are you Dutch ^2 ?

get_off_the_phone,

No. If you take a tilted photo of a fart under the bed covers that’s only double Dutch.

scottywh,

San Francisco angle

bricklove,

Most of Battlefield Earth is shot diagonally and no one has complained about that fine film

possiblylinux127,
daltotron,

Legitimately I do think being kind of, orientation agnostic, seems like a decent idea. I’ve seen it done well before in things like webtoons, where the sort of “line of action”, as it were, can benefit from bouncing from one side of the screen to the other, and where a variety of composition techniques can make a shot look more interesting and be properly readable in either viewing orientation. I think a conflict kind of naturally comes about when you’re just wanting to shoot everything to be completely in line with the floor so it’s easily parsed by the viewer, which is understandable, but kind of limits how interesting and efficient you can make your shots.

Also, somebody needs to make some popsockets that actually work, so holding your phone horizontally for more than five minutes doesn’t suck garbage doo doo.

TheGalacticVoid,

I unironically wish that modern videos could change FPS, aspect ratio, and resolution on the fly. There’s way too many cases where having a 16:9 section of a video followed by a cinematic section is useful, and black bars are an awful way of transitioning between the two. Same can be said for vertical and horizontal ratios in the same video.

daltotron,

we might get there with AI and maybe some auto-editing recutting software at some point (or just with fancuts, if IP law ever gets better), where the aspect ratio can be redone for a specific cut of the film, but I don’t think it’s ever gonna get to the point where you’d be better off watching something on a 16:9 monitor if it was meant for 4:3, unless you’re really dead set on redoing all the shot composition so everything isn’t confined endlessly to the center of the screen.

realistically our best bet would’ve been to just film everything in the same aspect ratio, which I thought would be the case after we all collectively decided to fuck ourselves, and very slowly migrate from 4:3 and your other postage stamp aspect ratios, to 16:9, over the course of like 50 years and over the course of different mediums. but apparently we can’t have that, and we just have to get increasingly longer and longer aspect ratios because phone manufacturers suck. it’s been like a century and change since we started filming stuff and everyone still just treats it like pictures on a camera, where it’s all up to uncompromising artistic integrity.

hate that shit.

TheGalacticVoid,

The thing is each aspect ratio has its merits for productivity, so 16:9 can’t be an end-all be-all.

Also, what I’m talking about is different from what you’re talking about. If source footage was shot in 2 aspect ratios, and both are used in a YouTube video or movie, it should be possible to label video segments with their correct aspect ratio. Right now, a single video can only have 1 aspect ratio, so if a video was formatted for 21:9 with some source footage being 16:9, if you were to watch that video on a 16:9 monitor, you’d see black bars on the top, bottom, left, and right of your screen despite the video segment being 16:9. If you watch WandaVision on a 16:9 or 4:3 monitor, you’ll understand what I mean.

daltotron,

So would you want to stop watching a video on one monitor, and then pick up where you left off on a different monitor with a different aspect ratio? That seems like a lot of hoopla to me, a lot of rigamarole. I do agree though, that should be a function.

TheGalacticVoid,

Not necessarily. I am saying that instead of a video being 16:9 while containing a 16:10 clip, the video should be 16:9 for most of it and 16:10 for the segment with the clip. There would be fewer black bars during playback because the computer would interpret different frames of video as being in different aspect ratios.

rimjob_rainer, in Times have changed

I still mock them

platypus_plumba, (edited )

Sure grandma… Watch your step

Octavio,

Same. I will die on this hill. Vertical video sucks!

SuckMyWang,

My grandmas funeral was filmed in vertical video you piece of shit

Anamnesis,

This is a good joke and it’s wooshed by eight people already.

Syrc,

Wait, what was the joke? I didn’t downvote but definitely got wooshed.

Daft_ish,

But like… my screen is veritical.

Octavio,

😂😂 right, right…

affiliate,

what would happen if you turned it sideways

Daft_ish,

Something not good, I’m sure

7u5k3n, in Times have changed

Vertical Video Syndrome

It’s a problem

HiddenLayer5,
@HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml avatar

Not really for very short video because 99% of the time you’ll be watching it on your phone which is vertical by default. For long video horizontal is better.

RaoulDook,

No, 99% of the time I’ll be looking at it on the computer and my monitor is in the natural Landscape orientation

krush_groove, in Times have changed

I am a social media content creator sometimes for work…

But human eyes are on the vertical plane…

I feel so conflicted sometimes.

MyOpinion, in Biggest piece of shit in movie history

You savages must attack everything. LOL

Maddie, in How could the EU do this??
@Maddie@sh.itjust.works avatar

Now departing Fuck Around; next stop, Find Out!

doctorcrimson,

Especially true since the article comes from a paper that backed Brexit.

beckerist, in How could the EU do this??

“Scheming EU states” is a total flame bait headline. The UK is not part of the EU, so why should they be included in any of this? They should be HAPPY about the EU not “meddling” with their “freedom”!

AlpacaChariot,

The UK doesn’t need to be part of this really, there’s one link to mainland Europe (the channel tunnel) and the rest should just be sensible UK road and rail network planning. NI and Ireland already have ways to cooperate when it comes to planning transport on the Ireland of Island.

I say “in theory” because our government just scrapped HS2 phase 2, so our rail network is going to continue to be shit for years.

khannie, (edited )
@khannie@lemmy.world avatar

on the Ireland of Island

Love this at what looks like 11pm on the day that’s in it as I write at 4am.

Love you, neighbour. Sorry about the HS2 bullshit. Shambles tbh.

AlpacaChariot,

Lol my bad. I’m going to leave it like that for everyone to enjoy!

khannie,
@khannie@lemmy.world avatar

Oh 100%!

Viking_Hippie,

sensible UK road and rail network planning

How many decades has it been since THAT last happened, though?

I say “in theory” because our government just scrapped HS2 phase 2, so our rail network is going to continue to be shit for years.

Oh. Same page, it would seem 😁

oktoberpaard,

Not only that, but there are also two arrows on this map going into the UK. It’s up to the UK to take care of how well these arrows connect to important locations within their borders. There really doesn’t appear to be an issue whatsoever.

arudesalad,

These arrows already exist! The France one is the English tunnel and the Ireland one is there because they need to make Ireland feel like one island. The uk dont have much control over how well they connect to their border. I think the uk would have benefited from this plan as they seem to be having problems with trains

doctorcrimson,

Not really, though? There are no development plans for the new railways in the UK and furthermore the entirety of the UK is greyed out but all the independent area of Ireland is part of the map.

khannie,
@khannie@lemmy.world avatar

I think that’s the point, no? It’s unfortunately up to the UK now to do what they will with the transport systems the EU will hook them up with.

doctorcrimson,

Listen, I’m not defending the article written by people who supported Brexit then got mad about how much of a shit deal Brexit is for them, but the point of the above comment is that the maps include arrows connecting to UK Railways, but that’s besides the point because the larger context of the discussion is about how a massive Railway Expansion project completely excludes the UK. It’s completely moot and irrelevant to talk about the existing railways.

9bananas,

the UK cannot be included, because they aren’t a Schengen-member and the EU doesn’t want customs checks on their train lines…

it’s entirely up to the UK what they do with their rails within their borders.

and as was already pointed out:

there already IS a connection between the EU and the UK!!

the new plans are largely for connections between capitals of EU countries and major population centers, both of which already have rail connections in the UK.

so what do you expect the EU to do about the rail network in the UK?

520,

the UK cannot be included, because they aren’t a Schengen-member and the EU doesn’t want customs checks on their train lines…

Ireland is also not a member of the Schengen agreement...

9bananas,

Ireland is not connected by rail either, so customs don’t matter as much; you need to change the mode of transportation anyways

doctorcrimson,

Yes the rails are connected, but you should not be arguing to me that this means the UK is part of the plan when it very clearly isn’t. You’re arguing on both sides right now, I don’t think you’re in the right state of mind.

TheBat,
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

the larger context of the discussion is about how a massive Railway Expansion project completely excludes the UK.

Why should EU project include non-EU states?

doctorcrimson,

It shouldn’t, but that’s not what the discussion is about, is it? Somebody made a statement that it IS part of the plan, which is verifiably false.

TheBat,
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

Somebody made a statement that it IS part of the plan,

Who? Where?

doctorcrimson,

I can’t tell if you’re lost or trolling. If you go up this thread to the comment I first replied to:

Not only that, but there are also two arrows on this map going into the UK. It’s up to the UK to take care of how well these arrows connect to important locations within their borders. There really doesn’t appear to be an issue whatsoever.

and this is in a discussion about the EU’s renovated railway plans centered around TransEuropean Landmark transport. It also has arrows pointing into Ukraine and Belarus, but that doesn’t mean any of those countries are included in the plans.

I also want to stress again, since many of you seem easily confused, I think the UK SHOULD be responsible for their own railway improvements building upon the plans of the EU by themselves, since that’s the logical conclusion of Brexit, but it makes no sense to say they’re part of the plan when they’re not part of the plan.

TheBat,
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

The arrows are just a way to represent linking of the network beyond the EU borders. No one is saying the arrows mean UK or Ukraine or Belarus is included in the plan.

I’m not sure if you’re trolling or not.

doctorcrimson,

You are quite clearly trolling.

TheBat,
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

Sure buddy, it’s me who’s trolling and not someone who doesn’t understand concepts of mapping legends.

Hackerman_uwu,

Huh? Apologies for being slow but what is your point?

My neighbour redid their driveway, it completely excludes my driveway, obviously. We used to share a driveway mind you and we could have shared the cost of whe work on both our driveway but I got uptight because he let brown people use both our driveways. I told him driveways first, my driveway is losing its identity due to all the brown people and I got the whole neighbourhood to vote against shared driveways.

Pretty fucking cunty of him to only redo his driveway now though innit?

doctorcrimson,

I will go very slowly.

  1. The rails are connected
  2. The UK is not part of the plan

There is no point in mentioning that the rails are connected in a discussion about the UK not being part of the plan. It’s just silly. It’s like talking about changes to cars and one person in the conversation starts talking about how the wheels have been the same for 14 years now.

Hackerman_uwu, (edited )

Why are you hung up on the mention of the rails being connected?

doctorcrimson,

Ima just return that question to sender.

laborer3922,

All I hear is that scheming EU is shooting two arrows at the UK.

9point6,

I’d welcome the EU meddling in my freedom; certainly would be better than the Tories

asteriskeverything,

It’s wild to me how America, UK, and Canada are dealing with these idiotic right wing extremists or fans. It did not go well in the states, is still not going well, but people in other countries are all agreeing that yeah now is the time to be loud, racist, shitholes who make life worse for everyone with their stupidity??? What the fuuuck

Carighan,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

And you’d think at the latest when the Brexit happens and totally fucked up logistics, industry and the already ailing healthcare in the UK, the right-wing voters might have realized “Oh wait, maybe the people we’ve been voting for us have been lying and it was rather obvious with how they didn’t want to be associated with the shit they made us vote for after it actually worked out and they won the vote”. Nope. They’re proud of it. All the mean mean evil EU now being mean to lil’ ol’ England out of pure spite. Aye.

(to be fair we already did that a long time ago when we banished them to a damp, sad and depressing island in the north sea)

BluesF,

I heard on the radio this morning the government singing their own praises after reintroducing pint size bottles of wine. A “Brexit benefit”. This is after 99% of those surveyed said they wanted metric sizes. 99%!

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

pint size bottles of wine

Who is that wine for? Ants?

BluesF,

Old people who for some reason cannot let go of a system of measures that needs to DIE

Facebones,

The right wing voters won’t be happy until everything burns down so they can institute their shitty boring ass cishet white only vision of society.

beebarfbadger,

Step 1) blame everyone else for everything that’s wrong. Step 2) promise all the good things if only people vote for you. If they are actually gullible enough to do that we come to step 3) grab all the wealth you can and shift it to your cronies, smash anything too heavy to carry off and leave the opposition in a smouldering ruin that you can then again blame and berate the next government for.

grue,
iknowitwheniseeit,

The Netherlands just voted in our own right-wing extremist, Geert Wilders. 😭

TheGrandNagus,

All of Europe, and a bunch of other places, are swinging to the right. It’s not an Anglosphere thing, you just read english-speaking news more.

Funny enough, the UK is in the process of swinging back leftwards again at the moment. Roll on the 2024 general election.

grue, (edited )

You know how the right-wing nutjobs have been frothing about a “new world order” conspiracy theory for a long time now? You know, the one about a secretive multinational cabal plotting to take over the entire world?

Yeah… it turns out even .

520,

It's the Daily Express, an offshoot of the Daily Mail. They both have ridiculously anti EU slants and have had those for decades

afraid_of_zombies,

Every since the thought occurred to me I can’t stop thinking about it. There is just this entire class of people out there who do no real work, are paid money to tell us how they should be running things, and whose only plan in running things is to take something that works and break it.

niktemadur,

If that idiotic and corrosive Brexit campaign had been defeated, the headline might be screaming how scheming EU nations drag the UK into their expensive transport plans.

Also the same mindless parrots on their tellys and newspapers would be mindlessly arguing the point, tossing out word salads, exactly as they would with the EU making their plans and keeping the UK out of them.

Meanwhile, non-voters who could have made a difference will be just as idiotic on polling day: “Politics is for wankers/both parties are the same. Shall we go for drinks?”

Hyperreality, (edited )

I found the wikipedia article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-European_Transport_Network#List_of_transport_networks

Apparently initial proposals for this pre-date brexit by 26 years.

This is a Daily Express article. Utter trash, right wing yellow journalism. Rabidly pro-brexit, endorsed Liz Truss for PM. You know, the weird cheese lady who was outlasted by a lettuce.

Obviously brexit isn't going so well and neither is the latest tory PM, so it's time for their daily article about how the foreigners done ruined Engerland.

Carighan,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

endorsed Liz Truss for PM

Geezus…

TheBat,
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

Outdone by lettuce

grue, (edited )

outlasted by a lettuce.

American here. How much is that converted to Mooches?

Jackthelad, in How could the EU do this??

This is from the Daily Express, which is a paper that’s full of these sort of ragebait, horseshit headlines.

Zekas,

Ragebait for tories, perhaps. I find it delicious

Skua,

Notably it was the first major paper to back Brexit. They should be delighted about this. Fucking mould-ridden wankstains.

illi,

If they identified themselves by hating anti-EU pieces, I imagine it’s hard do stop.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I honestly thought it was sarcasm.

BB69, in How could the EU do this??

Why are there roads through Switzerland

sp451,

Why not? Makes sense for quick connections from Germany to Italy

BB69,

Switzerland isn’t in the EU?

sp451,

That is correct. That’s why it has a different color than the EU countries

Hyperreality, (edited )

Part of Schengen, part of the European Free Trade Association, signed a lot of bilateral treaties and enacted a lot of EU legislation, contributed to EU projects.

The Swiss electorate voted against becoming part of the EU, but the EU's a huge market so Switzerland is quite integrated with the EU while still being independent.

Norway isn't part of the EU either, but they're in a similar position as Switzerland, which is probably why they're also part of this proposal.

GenEcon,

Switzerland is also a lot more integrated than GB. Remember when we discussed hard vs. soft brexit? Soft Brexit would have left GB in a similar state like Switzerland and Norway. But we got a hard brexit.

possiblylinux127,

Honestly we should just flatten Switzerland with nukes as its just a waste of space.

Skua,

Nonsense. We should swap it with Scotland, since both are beautiful mountainous countries with reasonably similar land areas and population, but on the whole Scots want to be in the EU and Switzerlanders don't

lurch,

So you can get through as quick as possible and don’t have to get out in this weirdo country /s

Resol,
@Resol@lemmy.world avatar

I have one word for you.

Schengen

XEAL, (edited ) in How could the EU do this??

To the idiot half who voted Brexit: fuck off.

To the other half who voted against it: sorry guys.

M137, in Times have changed
@M137@lemmy.world avatar

I never had a problem with this. It’s not like whole movies or long youtube videos are recorded vertically. The kind of content that is recorded vertically is mainly watched on phones, and it’s not like it’s unwatchable on any other screen. Never once have I seen anyone say anything about it that is anything more than mild inconvenience about something they really shouldn’t care that much about. It’s just stereotypical “complaining because you can” bullshit that is so common.

FIST_FILLET,

i’m not 110% in agreement (more like 65%) but you deserve an upvote for being the only person in here to defend it

JackiesFridge,
@JackiesFridge@lemmy.world avatar

Same. I may not agree with what you say, but I will upvote til dinner your right to say it.

The thing I hate about vertical video is all the footage of rare or historical events that are filmed by someone firehosing their phone back & forth like mad trying to capture the scope of it all, when all they have to do is rotate the phone 90 degrees. Don’t make me watch a tsunami through a keyhole. Frame correctly to capture the event.

southsamurai, in How could the EU do this??
@southsamurai@sh.itjust.works avatar

Pfft, they’re lucky the French don’t bomb their end of the chunnel.

EdibleFriend,
@EdibleFriend@lemmy.world avatar

Knowing the french they are just waiting for the UK to look at them wrong so they can do that. After a few weeks of rioting of course.

southsamurai,
@southsamurai@sh.itjust.works avatar

Of course. The je ne sais quoi is rioting, always. As is the avec.

vivadanang,

I imagine sad, regretful brits dining/vacationing are a boon to the economy.

768, in How could the EU do this??

There is this saying ‘people are not islands’ to mean people are interconnected with each other. The literal sense being applied by the last decade and by extension the last semicentennial is weird. The EU is a federation and any country can leave, but I still think Brexit was a mistake.

Savaran, in How could the EU do this??

I never knew the leopards would eat my face!

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