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tiredofsametab, in Japan is living in the future that the 1990s dreamed of.

As someone who filled out multiple copies of the same contract by hand to buy a house recently, which had to be stamped with my seal and not signed, AHHHHHHHHHHghgghhg. On average, I only have to fax something once every several years. NTT, the main telecoms provider, STILL requires that you fax paperwork to get internet (at least for NTT East as of two years ago).

Using cash is great (except for my airline miles account), but one of the biggest banks in Japan is notorious for outages. ATMs here also, until very recently, had business days and hours. That's finally mostly gone, at least. They can still run out of money at the year-end holiday season as everyone is home with family and they're not always restocked in some locations, but more ATMs also helped to solve this. The problem with things transitioning to electronic payment is also those payment processors take a cut. We have all kinds of payment apps here, but many small businesses I know hate using it. The ones I know that use it most generally have larger foreign customer bases (anecdotal to business owners I know; may not be generally true in all of Tokyo/Japan).

learningduck,

FAX machines is still a thing in 2023!

ehrik,

America’s healthcare system still lives off of fax machines

ininewcrow, in Introverts unite (separately)!
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Closes door in your face

SolarMech, in It's all downhill from here

Where I’m from, they know. The news have done a good job of reporting on it, and they see the cost of houses, and whatnot be worse than before. It’s kind of new from the last 5 or so years, before that they didn’t get it. But now it’s pretty obvious so long as they watch the news or pay attention to their kids and grandkid’s lives.

m3t00, in I just had to throw out a batch that I'd barely started.
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fresh is nice. good dried too

FrenLivesMatter, in I've been robbed!
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Did you forget to send in the mail-in rebate?

NaoPb, in Japan is living in the future that the 1990s dreamed of.

I like cash and fax machines. But floppy disks need to be retired. And paper filing is incredibly slow compared to digital databases.

Delphia,

Paper filing is good, digital filing with proper backups is good.

At my job for a staff evaluation I have to fill out a paper checklist, scan it, then enter the information digitally, then print the digital one and file it in the employees file with the original checklist and then upload a pdf of the paper checklist AND the digital one…

Instead of just having the evaluation portal open on a tablet and doing it ONE TIME with a good backup system.

NaoPb, (edited )

Yes, I agree it’s good to have a backup system.

[edit] I mean having a paper filing system as backup.

Delphia,

I could just print out the digital version and archive that or submit the digital and file the paper checklist.

I dont need a digital copy of the paper and a paper copy of the digital at the same time. Especially when they get filed/archived together.

NaoPb,

Fair point.

mtchristo, in Japan is living in the future that the 1990s dreamed of.

Until you find out that those Nuclear launching pads still running with 1970 bug ass floppy disks. Things just work.

skeeter_dave,

They replaced those in the like 2018 or 2019.

I kinda want one of those disks for my collection though… “This is my 5150, Vic 20, Nuclear Missile Launch Floppy, Thinkpad 300…” Some quality conversation starters I thinks.

Nommer, in When a car guy gets esakaied

I don’t get it. Car people can’t use tiny bows and arrows?

creditCrazy,
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There typically aren’t any cars in fantasy worlds. The closest you get are horse drawn carages.

FrenLivesMatter, (edited ) in He's coming to town
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Oh nononono that’s totally unacceptable. First of all, John McClane is the epitome of toxic masculinity — he smokes, he swears, he shoots guns, and he clearly cannot stop himself from stalking his ex-wife against her clear wishes to be left alone.

Second, he’s also a racist, who, in a several acts of clear and utter police brutality murders a calm and well-mannered German gentleman (played by a British actor) and his merry band of European immigrants who are merely trying to settle a dispute between themselves and a Japanese megacorporation in order to improve their local economy and feed starving children at home.

If you’re watching this movie in 2023, you’re definitely an alt-right terrorist and you belong on a watchlist.

AllonzeeLV, (edited ) in Introverts unite (separately)!

I mean, have you met people?

Not a prize, us humans. Might make a friend, might lose a kidney! We’re a lottery.

registrert,
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We’re a lottery.

The only way not to lose is not to play.

Isthisreddit, in Japan is living in the future that the 1990s dreamed of.

I’d argue using cash, paper, floppies is fucking advanced and the right move.

Source - I work on tech

uis,
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thefloweracidic, (edited )

Mini Rant:

When you think about it software development is a relatively young profession compared to medicine, law, construction, public services, the arts, and so on. This is why modern tech kind of sucks despite being so cool, I say we are in the “Hey maybe we shouldn’t build our huts right on the river” phase of writing code, still figuring out problems that will appear mind numbingly simple in the future.

Another issue is the fact that tech builds on itself and its flaws can be painted over with abstractions, while the aforementioned professions can’t get away with being subpar for too long. So the full metaphor really is after the river floods we build on top of the ruins and claim victory because we are slightly more elevated and will take less damage during the next flood.

The secret to better tech is rebuilding everything from scratch. The internet wasn’t designed with security and bad actors in mind. Plenty of corporations are running a Frankenstein system that contains code older than most millennials, botched modernization efforts, buzzword laden over-engineered applications, and bugs that aren’t features just permanent residents in your code base.

…But there is profiteering to contend with, good code takes time, time is money, good code is expensive. “Good enough” code is easy to write, so its better for the bottom line.

In the end it really is…

Developer: “Hey the river flooded and our huts were demolished, we should move to higher ground and build there”

Corporate Leadership: “No that is too expensive, just build on the ruins and next flood we should be safer, oh also you’re laid off”

I know you didn’t ask for this, but its been on my mind for a while and I felt like this was a good time to get this out of my head haha

cmhe, (edited )

The secret to better tech is rebuilding everything from scratch. The internet wasn’t designed with security and bad actors in mind. Plenty of corporations are running a Frankenstein system that contains code older than most millennials, botched modernization efforts, buzzword laden over-engineered applications, and bugs that aren’t features just permanent residents in your code base.

Rebuilding everything from scratch will take ages and cost everyone a lot of money, because you have to replace all your hardware (router boxes, PC s, phones, smart watches, …), because the internet protocols are often designed into the hardware itself, and changing them fundamentally means a lot of trash. Also there is no system that guarantees that the result will have fewer issues or will not required to be succeeded by something else a couple of minutes later, because some new issue was discovered.

Also software is highly complex and need to adapt to many different scenarios, while maintaining compatibility to each other, which the other disciplines of human engineering don’t have to deal with as much, they are much more purpose driven.

It is like trying to create a universal building code (for building houses) that simultaneously works on every country on earth, hell, maybe even on multiple planets, with wildly different and constantly changing environments and is guaranteed to result in save houses. Not really possible in one shot, only possible by constantly trying to adapt. That is what software has to deal with. I am talking about fundamental software like the Linux kernel here, for example.

You cannot just start over and be better.

yamanii,
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Enough with this American take, electronic voting works fine in Brazil, only right wingers complain about it, and the American ones also complained about their paper votes when they lose.

Chakravanti,

Wait…wasn’t that a movie too?

uis,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

Enough with this American take

Huston or whereever you are, you have problem. I live on other side of the pond. More specifically in certain biggest country, where Ella Pamfilova can pull out any number she wants from remote electronic voting.

electronic voting works fine in Brazil

It works here as intended too. Wins elections for Putin’s mafia.

only right wingers complain about it

4chanland, you have another problem. Putin is right wing. And he is super happy about it.

and the American ones also complained about their paper votes when they lose.

I don’t know what Americans complain about when they loose.

Eyelessoozeguy,

What does the Brazilian electronic voting system do that allows you to trust it? I’m not trying to bait or anything I know nothing about it and want to be informed.

cmhe, (edited )

Luckily in many European countries it is not used.

I would credit institutions like the chaos computer club and other non-profits, which where instrumental in convincing the government about the dangers. It was a difficult battle against the corporate lobbyists, and is understandable that other countries could not fight against the corporate interests or corruption and succumb to use them.

There where and still are so many issues with them, one of the most fundamental is described by Ken Thompson in his Reflections on trusting trust, which is especially effective for electronic voting machines, where no other way of verification is possible.

afraid_of_zombies,

Paper databases are a terrible system

uis,
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Github uses black-and-white film. Depends. You can print qr codes or some other crazy encoding scheme.

afraid_of_zombies,

Do you know the difference between warehouse inventory management and a database?

uis,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

You didn’t say you wanted database for warehouse inventory managment. In that case paper only useful for storing append-only logs or taking snapshots.

lud,

You are probably talking about the arctic vault.

They use film for extreme archival purposes that are not representative of anything normal.

Qr codes can be great but they obviously need to interact somehow (not directly I hope) with a real database.

uis,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

You are probably talking about the arctic vault.

Yes, github arctic code vault. It seems some people just don’t get it.

Qr codes can be great but they obviously need to interact somehow (not directly I hope) with a real database.

I mean QR codes as a mean of storing lots of data on paper, in a way that does not require humam or OCR for computer to read. Basically as a joke about paper databases.

MonkeMischief,

I would love if we kept the floppy form factor but with SSD flash on the inside.

I loved the solid feeling of disks and that “kachunk” of the drives.

They were also easy to label!

freeman,

How exactly is a floppy more advanced and the right move? Or fucking paper and photocopiers,/printers.

Isthisreddit, (edited )

It’s like non-security tech savvy people embracing IoT devices throughout their homes - smart bulbs, smart toasters, etc - fucking disaster waiting to happen.

Keeping stuff offline with paper and floppies is exceptional SecOps. It’s obviously more work, and ease-of-use is degraded, but if we ever see real cyber warfare, having stuff on paper and/or airgapped storage is the best one can hope for

CurlyMoustache,
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If you look a floppy disk from a weird angle, it will get a bad sector

dangblingus,

Ahh yes, floppy disks, where if you breathe on it, you just corrupted 1.44 megabytes of data.

xantoxis, in Time changes us all

Is it better if you snort it?

can,

no

TheRealLinga,

I second this. Bad, bad bad idea

Saltblue, in I just had to throw out a batch that I'd barely started.

Made homemade liquor and embrace the hillbilly you have inside

The_Picard_Maneuver,
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Who told you about my inner hillbilly?

Seventhlevin,

Who told you I let a hillbilly inside me?

GobiasIndustries, in He's coming to town

Now I have a machine gun

Ho Ho Ho

Thcdenton, in I just had to throw out a batch that I'd barely started.

If I don’t eat them immediately, I chop them and toss them in sugar. That stuff stays for a while and its great on everything.

MataVatnik,
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Came here just to say this

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