Everyone has different experiences, but this post pretty much perfectly shows how people act where i live. There arent really any types of clothes that women aren’t “supposed” to wear, but men get a lot of weird looks if they wear skirts, frills or anything not seen as “masculine”
Fair tho just because you personally don’t see it doesn’t mean this doesn’t happen to other people. There’s way worse things you can get besides weird looks
Bro I see girls with short hair wearing boots all the time and nobody bats an eye. The second a dude in a dress walks by everyone stares and whispers. There's worse things that can happen to a guy in a dress than weird looks too, and I'd wager they're more likely to happen.
My husband pointed out that certain items like sneakers, backpacks and scrubs are either unisex or women’s. Many other items are that way, too. A men’s watch might be large on a woman’s wrist but no-one would really think twice. A tiny pink watch on a man’s wrist would likely garner more attention (depending on where you are in the western world, of course)
Honestly I think the pink would draw more attention than the size of the watch in that example. Most people aren’t paying close enough attention to others’ wristwear to notice size.
I think there are certain traditionally “masculine” things that would draw more attention than others if a woman wore them, but I’m struggling to think of any that would cause actual upset. You still hear the occasional grumble about women in business suits from time to time, to spite women’s cut suits having been a thing for decades, but that’s mostly well accepted now.
Tuxedo, maybe? They cut them for women too, but that one feels like it’s mostly still in the male category because its opposite is often expected in certain formal settings. A women showing up to something formal in a tux and not a dress would probably still do it today, depending on the event and the people in attendance.
Like imagine a ball or some other bougie shit where a husband and wife both show up in tuxes.
I think certain styles of hats are still exclusive to men mostly. I think that’s more because wearing hats went out of fashion rather than it being an issue though. I’m sure if people started wearing hats more often, those styles would be worn by either gender, but women’s hats would probably still exclusively be women’s.
I don’t know about butches but women wearing male clothing is just an everyday thing where I live. So much so that a lot of male clothes are just unisex clothes. Not so for women’s clothing
So they’re still seen as unisex. Also what was the reaction before they were considered unisex? Oh yeah not great. Women were banned from wearing pants in various places for a long time and women wearing men’s clothes dealt with hate. Look up people like Marlene Dietrich
I really want to wear kilts, but decent ones are really expensive and I don’t want to spend that money on something I might not like (or more specifically I might not like bad attention from, because I do sadly care about that).
Remember, go up 2-4 inches from your pants size when buying a kilt. So, if you wear a size 32 pants, get a size 36 kilt. Their waist measurements are actually your waist measurement.
Also, the patterns have specific meanings. No one in the US is going to care, but if you go to Scotland someone may address you by the last name the pattern represents (they’re like family crests). There are generic patterns out there, though.
You can find relatively cheap ones online. Damn near kilt em is one I can vouch for as a good first kilt. Or stillwater kilts for something cheap and more traditional looking.
The number one thing to know when buying is that you need to actually measure yourself. Pants lie, kiltmakers generally don’t.
If you want something a little nicer, there are plenty of businesses that make kilts to measure. My last few came from alpha kilts, but I think they quit. Alt.kilt does crazy custom stuff. Utilikilt is probably the most famous one, though I’ve never actually tried theirs.
There’s whole communities online for this stuff. I used to get reviews and find new stores on xmarksthescot.
If you get a contemporary kilt, meaning pockets and modern style, you just need a belt. If you go traditional tartan you probably need a sporran or some other kind of bag or pouch since they don’t have pockets. Traditional kilts also typically use a kilt pin to add weight to the front apron to keep it from blowing around too easily.
Tall socks are good formal wear or cold weather. I am a very casual guy and an arctic creature, so I usually just wear closed toe sandals. But if you live in a cold place and need to stay warm, a full size “9 yard” kilt will do the trick, it creates a pocket of warm air, and the legs being together gives it a mitten effect.
You can go commando (aka going regimental, because in highland regiments underwear is considered out of uniform), but I don’t recommend it. For one thing, you don’t know fear until you’ve been caught in a gust of 50 mph wind while walking past a school playground on a day that you decided to save time by forgoing underwear, and now you are desperately holding down all sides of a lightweight kilt and trying not to end up on sex offender registry. But on a much more mundane level, it’s also just a lot easier to keep your kilt clean when it isn’t directly touching your junk or your crack. I wear briefs but I go up a couple sizes, so that the elastic still holds them up but they hang off me when I’m standing, which feels like I’m wearing nothing at all.
Of course, if anyone asks what’s worn under the kilt, you have lots of options:
Nothing’s worn, it’s all in excellent condition.
If you want to find out it will cost you dinner and a movie first.
I joked before, but your excellent answer made me seriously consider buying a kilt. I need to find out how the supply situation is here in Germany. Or I’ll ask the seamstress that made my ex wife’s wedding dress, she’s working for the theater in my city as well. Maybe she’d like a challenge.
Yeah, I’m using Boost too, and that’s the one PR I want merged, but I’m not a coder so I don’t know how hard it is to implement. The only other app I’ve used is Jerboa, so I know that the coding is there (I believe they’re called APIs) but I don’t know how I could personally help with this issue.
I’m not too sure about navigating that specific app, but on desktop you can just follow a link like this one: lemmy.world/c/egg_irl@lemmy.blahaj.zone and you’ll view the blahaj instance from the cozy view of your lemmy.world account. You can subscribe there and it should appear in your feeds.
Alternatively, if you’re super into queer spaces you could just create an account on blahaj to make that like your “home” instance but that wont really affect your Lemmy viewing experience much. it’s akin to creating a yahoo email vs google email: you can still send and receive all the same stuff but you just log in somewhere else
I wouldn’t suggest using blahaj as a home instance. It’s one of the instances that pussyfoots around with defederating from hexbear, and I think it disables downvotes, which just means the content isn’t voted on democratically, which fucks up the aggregation and doesn’t give you an accurate view of Lemmy as a whole.
Cool communities there, poor admins. Stick with lemmy.world or pick a different home.
🎶To be fair🎶 .world isn’t without it’s own problems, mostly getting DDOS’d all the time, so if you’re gonna look for an instance, I’d try to pick a lesser-known one than .world or the other big ones. Probably being a hypocrite here, since mine is arguably the biggest meme community on Lemmy right now, but I think that’ll change given time.
A lot of rock stars dress very feminine and have great success with that style. Glam rock? Another guy dressing feminine but having success with it is ziggy stardust.
this guy is a straight guy who raps and is alleged to have beein involved in homicides and part of a gang of hardened criminals. just he also has a unique sense of fashion.
there is also gay rappers like lil nas x but i omit him here as I show how far what is acceptable has come.
We all have preconceived notions, but there is nothing hindering a hardened criminal from dressing feminine… Don’t let the packaging fool you, the guy is as tough as they come :( he just happens to have his own sense of fashion… it’s just like the glam rock thing…
It’s true. Makes a fella feel good. I wear a kilt every day. Any trip outside our little town…compliments from women. Something most men never recieve.
Is the last panel meant to represent people rushing in anger to hate on femboys or people rushing in horniness to see femboys? Because if the latter then I’d agree as I’d fall in that bucket.
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