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Venator, in mentally unbalanced behaviour

Third photo should be of the dude from Explosions&Fire or NileRed.

DemBoSain,
@DemBoSain@midwest.social avatar

Purple gold will be the death of us all.

Cort, (edited )

I think you misspelled thought emporium:

youtu.be/JNfQCRzcr3o?si=DpZ8W__Rtb38VTA0

We’re talking MAD science, not regular science.

vzq, (edited ) in It's a new era.

I know they are dinosaurs, but the fact that someone was drawing comics about checks in 2017 is just baffling.

I don’t recall seeing a check since the late 80s.

Monkeyhog,

I work at a bank, I see thousands of checks a day. They’re still out there.

psud,

In America?

meliaesc,

I wrote two checks last week. I’m 29.

psud,

I’m 46 and have never used a cheque

Monkeyhog, (edited )

Yep, checks are used a lot by charities and churches, plus migrant workers are often paid by checks, and there’s market nearby that will cash all of their checks for them, and that market is a customer of my bank, so when they bring in their deposit, it’s a stack of checks at least 6 inches tall every day. And that’s honestly not even half of the checks we see a day.

vzq,

My condolences.

On the other hand, we don’t have bank offices here anymore either. And getting someone on the phone is a nightmare.

But it’s cheaper, so that’s why they raised prices. Wait, what?

I_am_10_squirrels,

They’re still somewhat common in the US. I use checks to pay the cleaners, and my bank sends checks for bill pay.

weariedfae,

Man, that’s some hyperbole. Ain’t nobody believing you haven’t seen a check in 40 years. It’s not for every day use but there’s always something that needs a check for some dumb reason, like setting up direct deposit or paying the emergency plumber. Stuff comes up.

wandermind, (edited )

I’m not American, but

I’ve literally never seen a check in my life, and I’ve been around since the late 80s.

funkless_eck,

I got paid by check for a gig on Christmas Eve.

acockworkorange, (edited )

Believe it, bub. In backwater places like Brazil people have moved on from credit and debit cards to fully digital systems like Pix. Meanwhile my town in Tennessee will take only cash or cheque for taxes.

Jorgelino,

I’m so used to my country being late to this type of stuff that i only realised pix wasn’t an international thing until just recently.

Also how dare you?! Only i get to call this backwater place backwater! /s

acockworkorange,

Is there a c/suddenlycaralho?

wildginger,

I mean, fully digital isnt a massive flex. “Cash is king” is a saying for a reason

kakes,

Other than getting paid for a few labor jobs out of high school, I haven’t seen a cheque used ever, so I can believe it. Banks give sheets with direct deposit info, and any tradespeople I’ve hired have taken various other forms of payment.

For reference, this is in Canada though, so not the default.

vzq, (edited )

Man, that’s some hyperbole. Ain’t nobody believing you haven’t seen a check in 40 years.

Late 80s is only 35 years ago, but other than that believe it. It’s true. In 1991 Maestro launched and everyone moved over to debit card payments.

The cheques only really disappeared in 2002 when the bank guarantees stopped, but I haven’t seen one in the wild since I was a little little lad. I have never ever ever had a checkbook in my own name.

More info on en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurocheque

It’s not for every day use but there’s always something that needs a check for some dumb reason, like setting up direct deposit or paying the emergency plumber.

My last emergency plumber was a kid in his twenties. I don’t think he even knows what a check is. But he definitely knows what a debit card is, and has a portable terminal.

SkybreakerEngineer, in After 100ish years, Graffiti becomes noteworthy

The Romans, they go to the house

Hazmatastic,

Now write it out a hundred times. Finish it by morning or I’ll cut your balls off.

x4740N, in It's a new era.
@x4740N@lemmy.world avatar

Isn’t it “cheques”

vind,
@vind@lemmy.world avatar

It’s checks in American English.

Mr_Blott,

That’s true.

“God, do they still use those? I haven’t seen a cheque in 20 years”

Cheques out

Aurenkin, (edited )

That checks out, once you check that task off I’ll send your check, just make sure you check it before depositing it.

EDIT: ChatGPT did a better job at this than I did.

In a game of chess, the king was in check, so the player paused to check his phone, where he received a check for his latest freelance project, after which he decided to check off his to-do list and check his coat at the restaurant’s check-in counter.

psud,

It seems to be fair to use the American spelling, as everyone else doesn’t use them.

EndMilkInCrisps, in It's a new era.

Boomer Hoomer

beneeney,
@beneeney@lemm.ee avatar

I love wholesome boomer humor

pigup, in bread is metal
jol,

A bit afraid of asking for your prompt

pigup,
weed_scientist,

Nice. The only thing that would make this better is if you asked for yeast cells instead of bacteria, since yeast are fungi.

pigup,
weed_scientist,

Lmao chatgpt needs to learn what yeast cells look like. Thanks for doing that, though!

amio, in Neil deGrasse Tyson knows what he did.

We demonstrate, however, that Brunini under-estimated the energetics by twelve orders of magnitude

Oh snap.

geogle, (edited )
@geogle@lemmy.world avatar

Maybe Uranus did not get hit by a large impactor in the past century, but Brunini’s sure did.

Zehzin, (edited ) in abandonware empires
@Zehzin@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve seen things you people wouldn’t believe. Critical government services running COBOL. Programs stored in magnetic tapes, entire offices dependant on one guy who’s retiring. All that code will be lost in time, like tears in rain

TheLameSauce,

There is genuine money to be made in learning the “dead languages” of the IT world. If you’re the only person within 500 Miles that knows how to maintain COBOL you can basically name your price when it comes to salary.

I just wish I had the slightest interest in programing

cm0002,

I’ve seriously looked into picking one of these dead languages up and honestly, it’s not worth it.

Biggest issue is, you have to be experienced to some degree before you get the name your price levels. So you’ll have to take regular ol average programmer pay (at best) for a language that’s a nightmare in 2023. Your sanity is at heavy risk.

I’d honestly rather bash my head with assembly, it’s still very much in use these days in a modern way. Most programs still get compiled into it anyway (Albeit to a far more complicated instruction set than in the past) and can still land some well paid positions for not a whole lot of experience (relatively)

SamirCasino,

Been working in COBOL for a decade and this is all true.

I’m lucky. I personally enjoy it. But i can totally see how it’s an absolute nightmare for most people.

grue,

I’ve been meaning to learn Fortran in part because because of the whole “big bucks for being willing to maintain old software” thing, but mostly because I’d like to work on the sorts of scientific computing software that was (and still often is) written in Fortran.

PoisonedPrisonPanda,

Fortran syntax is a warm summer rain tickling your face compared to c++ for high performance computing which is like slap in the face for non it peeps

RobertoOberto,

Sounds like you got a golden shower from Fortran.

Enjoy.

PoisonedPrisonPanda,

Its not peepee until you know its pee.

kucing, (edited )

Yeah man I’ll take plain old php and java any time of day, I can still get enough money from it to pay my lifestyle. And at 5pm I can close my laptop and play vidya with no worries.

Technus,

Yeah everytime someone says “just learn COBOL, you’ll make tons of money,” it’s like,

Bro.

There’s a reason no one wants to write new software in these languages anymore, let alone maintain a forty-year-old pile of technical debt.

psud, (edited )

COBOL isn’t too terrible, it has its gotchas (like sizing variables for inputs (in which you don’t need space for the datas headers and will break stuff if you do)) but mostly it’s an old language designed to be easy to use

New staff in my workplace first using COBOL (with other build experience) learn it to the point they’re productive in a week or two

SpaceNoodle,

How about a little casual graming on the side?

Potatos_are_not_friends,

This is one of those fantasies people have. You might as well hope to win the lottery.

Imagine being the only person who can play a extremely custom instrument. Unless someone absolutely needs you, you’ll be sitting and hoping to get a job. Worse, a company is more likely to hire some people to rebuild it rather than hope to find this unicorn who can do this.

Source: Been in the industry for 15yrs. I’m one of those guys you hire to migrate old software to a web app. And frequently, company will pay to modernize rather than support outdated tech every time.

Honytawk,

Unlike a custom instrument, a dead programming language can be company critical though.

Isycius,

COBOL case is bit different. You can’t just modernize millions of lines of code that is functionally unique without service disruption - and services that uses COBOL that large often tends to be very sensitive.

The fact that COBOL as a language is both atrocity to either use or read didn’t help that either.

SamirCasino, (edited )

Been in the industry for 10 years and i deeply disagree with you. I work in COBOL.

Not that migrations don’t happen, but in my experience, many, many companies kick that can down the road each year, because migrating huge and critical services is extremely costly, time-consuming and risky. In the short term, just paying people to maintain the dinosaurs is waaaay cheaper.

Also, it’s extremely easy to get a job in it ( my company now hires people with no IT background and tries to teach them cobol from scratch ), because even though it’s a niche, the demand for it still outweighs the supply of people willing to learn it.

Will it die out eventually? Maybe. I’ve been hearing about its death for a decade, so i’ve become skeptical about it in the short-term.

Edit : would also like to point out that it is indeed a fantasy that it pays truckloads of money. Does it happen? Sometimes, but you need to be really good and experienced at it.

oxideseven,

I’ll learn cobol. What company? I do have an it background as a bonus though.

SamirCasino,

Good luck to you!

I’d rather not dox myself, but i can tell you i’m in eastern europe working for a western european bank. COBOL is still heavily used in the banking and insurance sectors, by companies that started using it 50 years ago.

If you do manage to learn the ropes, the salary does tend to be above average for a mid-level programmer.

SupraMario,

There is some logic to running older stuff, a lot of it is a closed system and it’s harder for threats to target it. Banks are a big one that still run a ton of our financial infrastructure on COBOL.

Hospitals also run on a ton of abandon ware, same with machine shops. Ultrasound machines that are still running 95 because for the hospital to upgrade to windows 7 or 10 is millions for a few machines. So you just airgap the systems for security.

miss_brainfart,
@miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml avatar

The good part about it is being more sustainable by using the same PCs for three decades.

Imagine banks, hospitals and so on regularly replacing their machines. That would be an ungodly amount of electronics

SupraMario,

Unfortunately, they still have parts that fail, the good news is most of its being replaced with new old stock, so not technically new stuff. I know a good number of companies that have stock piles of basically museum level hardware, to replace failing parts.

PrincessLeiasCat,

Credit to them for not wanting to move to 98 either.

Treczoks,

Just have a look at the American pension system. They collect all their documents on paper in an old salt mine. Truckloads of documents per month.

mayoi,

Magnetic tapes aren’t that surprising, it’s just even more cost effective storage than HDD.

PhlubbaDubba,

“But migrating to more well known tech and languages still costs too much!”

-HR and Budget offices the world over

h3mlocke, in Lol!!!

🤷‍♀️

foolsh_one, (edited )

If the horizon of the universe is like the horizon of a blackhole then the energy loss through Hawking radiation through the converstion e=mc^2 simply implies that mass is lost from the universe over time. If we extrapolate out this energy/mass loss over time for every mass in the universe then the distance between the surfaces of each grow as a relative change with the exponentially decreasing mass over time, directly correlating the dark phenomena we observe as a geometric quantum event.

originalucifer, in Shame.
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

so chemo is just fevers revenge

Sheeple, (edited )
@Sheeple@lemmy.world avatar

That’s actually exactly how chemo works. It microwaves your cells on a molecular level!

Edit: turns out I confused it with radiation therapy!

ArcticDagger,
OsrsNeedsF2P,

I think they may have been thinking of en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_therapy?

ArcticDagger,

Seeing the edit, yes, but that is also wrong. As the first line of the link says, radiation therapy uses ionizing radiation and not microwaves

It is possible to use microwaves for treating cancer (see www.bmc.org/content/microwave-ablation), but the two aforementioned methods do not use them (with the caveat that both “chemotherapy” and “radiation therapy” are very broad categories)

Sheeple, (edited )
@Sheeple@lemmy.world avatar

I used microwaving as a verb, as in cooking. English can be weird like that but I didn’t mean the literal frequency range. My bad

lugal, in Archaeopteryx 🐦

And it got the worm because it was an early bird

Malgas,

Hadn’t learned to walk without rhythm yet.

WhiteHawk, in Shame.

“The disease can’t kill me if I kill myself first”

Dasnap,
@Dasnap@lemmy.world avatar

“This peanut won’t kill us if I completely block the airways, I think.”

XEAL,

Use this simple trick to overcome depression

CalicoJack, in bread is metal

It’s even worse when you bake sourdough. I’ve been cultivating that yeast colony, caring for it, loving it. It thinks I care, but it’s only being prepared for slaughter.

threelonmusketeers,

sourdough

yeast colony

Bacterial colony, no?

Also, you kill only half of them each time. For the sourdough starter, it’s like a Thanos-snap coin-flip everytime you bake bread. The bacteria in your current sourdough starter come from a long line of statistically lucky ancestors.

I suppose that’s kind of true for all of us, though…

ThoGot,

Bacterial colony, no?

It’s both yeast and bacteria.

troyunrau, in Probability.... Need I say more?!
@troyunrau@lemmy.ca avatar

Missing: any sort of physicist who will tell them both that the forward model says that the sun won’t explode for a few billion years, and so far that model hasn’t been wrong.

Moghul,

Isn’t our sun too small to explode at all? IIRC the sun will expand enough to engulf the earth’s orbit but will eventually shrink to a dwarf.

troyunrau, (edited )
@troyunrau@lemmy.ca avatar

Too small to supernova and black hole, yes. But large enough to have a decent boom. Probably at least red giant, then a nova (explosion casting off outer layers) leaving a white dwarf remnant.

If I’m around by then, my model of medical science progress is wrong ;)

E: I’m wrong. That casting off of the outer gas envelope is not a nova. It’s just a death throe of some sort.

Moghul,

Thanks for the update bro!

Neato, (edited )
@Neato@kbin.social avatar

Minor correction: in a few billion years our sun will expand into its red giant death phase.

Also: our star can't go nova by our understanding of astrophysics. If it actually can, then we might need to throw out a lot of astrophysics, including predictions on when our star will expand.

Also also: the odds of the dice giving double 6s is MUCH higher than our sun going nova at any point in time even if it could go nova and was overdue.

IsoSpandy,

I think our sun can go nova. What it can’t do is supernova based on the Chandrashekhar limit

triclops6,

That last part is what the Bayesian scientist is wagering on, it’s not missing, as op suggested

Neato,
@Neato@kbin.social avatar

Ah, gotcha. I tried learning Bayesian probability once and failed utterly. One of the only classes I just barely passed (stat was the other). My brain just barely computes it.

triclops6,

The intuition is exactly your argument:

When the machine says yes it’s either because

(1) the sun went nova (vanishingly small chance) and machine rolled truth (prob 35/36) – the joint probability of this (the product) is near zero

OR

(2) sun didn’t go nova (prob of basically one) and machine rolled lie (prob 1/36) – joint prob near 1/36

Think of joint probability as the total likelihood. It is much more likely we are in scenario 2 because the total likelihood of that event (just under 1/36) is astronomically higher than the alternative (near zero)

I’m skipping stuff but hopefully my words make clear what they math doesn’t always

steveman_ha,

That’s a solid intro! Nice.

JoBo,

That is not missing, it’s the entire fucking point of the cartoon.

DroneRights,

Missing: David Hume

pineapplelover, in Your typesetting will look professional, they said

I asked my physics professor if it was even worth learning latex if I don’t want to pursue physics and he told me not to because it would consume so much time. On the bright side, the documents would look very well formated.

abbadon420,

I rather prefer latex over word, but I’m a programmer and I like fiddling with things to make it work properly. It’s not just for scientific papers, any pdf file can benefit from latex even if it’s only for the proffessional look.

Engywuck,

I don’t fully agree with Latex being time consuming. It may be, at the beginning, but after then it avoids you a lot of annoyances that come with WYSIWYG editors.

rescue_toaster,

Physics professor here. I tell my students that i will give them unlimited help and assistance if they want to learn latex. I find that most students prefer latex once they get the hang of it.

I’m incredibly biased though. There is rarely a situation that I would prefer to use word over latex.

pineapplelover,

My prof told me it’s a huge learning curve. At first I’ll be very confused and slow at it.

rescue_toaster,

Yeah there’s definitely a learning curve. A little coding experience makes the task easier. I typically give my students a template that they put their own text into that includes a peer-reviewed journal format and an example equation, table, and figure.

There’s still the “not so short introduction to latex” out there that helped me learn the basics back in the day.

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