But you can rotate the phone such that the mic is still in front of your mouth and the top of the phone over your ear, without being forced to use the speaker to be able to hear.
Well, talking like this keeps the phone from radiating into the head from zero distance and angling it in this way puts your mouth closer to the microphone, so if it’s over, I say, "Don’t let the door hit you on the way out. "
Neither of those things provide a measurable or meaningful improvement to anything. The phone is designed to be directly against one’s head within allowable safe levels of radiation. And the microphone/audio processing is designed to pickup sound from the standard phone position.
ITT a bunch of fucking losers claiming to have hearing problems and would rather be a dick in public than invest in proper headphones.
Note on the claim part, I don’t believe a fraction of the assholes here, just trying to justify their assholery. People with legitimate hearing issues tend to accept the support technology that’s readily available these days. I spend quite a bit of time around folks who are actually hard of hearing.
Well, the guy you are responding to is maybe only thinking of people whose hearing is diminished in some manner. Not people whose hearing is otherwise incapacitated through something like tinnitus or like the other poster in here who has auditory dyslexia. Both of whom may be inconvenienced by headphones or earbuds and have an easier time with speaker phone than those options. Maybe try to explain how you think they are being insensitive or lacking empathy rather than just accusing them of such without explanation.
Add to that the amount of headphones out there that do help with various ear issues is growing and the prices are not that heavy.
They have bone conduction ear phones now that can be picked up online. Your skull can hear for you now. This is the same technology as what hearing aids use and you can just wire it up as headphones to your phone now
I was just reading about these yesterday. They basically bypass your eardrum so they’re really good for people with hearing loss who still want to use headphones. Definitely check them out if you think they’ll work for you.
When someone calls and I expect it to be 60 seconds or less, I don’t wanna go fumbling in my bag for 30 seconds to find the headphones and spend another 20 making sure they hook up to my phone properly.
Plus, idk about hearing issues, but I have epilepsy and my seizures increase when I have long calls with the phone against my face OR with TWS earbuds in, which can apparently (and not too uncommonly) be triggered by the type of radiation they put off, even though it’s at very low levels. But just 3 inches further from my face and no problems. I know that’s not why a lot of people do it, and I still try not to in public, but there are various reasons that someone might.
I am sure this will get downvoted to the lowest level of hell, but when it comes to people doing this without a medical reason/just based on preference, I also just don’t know why a minor annoyance triggers such major anger in others. If I’m on a train for an hour and someone is talking the whole time, that’s annoying no matter how they’re doing it. If I pass someone on speaker in the grocery store, I don’t really let that 12 seconds affect the rest of my day, certainly not enough to harbor such hot feelings about it.
Sure, but I’d honestly also rather hear both sides of a stranger’s conversation than just one. Doesn’t feel better to me to be talking just as loud on the phone but have it against your ear than a few inches away
Talking like this? Fucking irritating in public. Speaker so loud everyone can hear, not even trying to lower their voice Like the area is loud so they gotta turn up and talk loud. You know what else solves this? Taking it off speaker and holding it to your ear like a phone.
Their phone flat out in front makes their profile larger, and I know that seems silly but that’s another foot and a half in an already cramped bus.
It’s because the speakers for the iPhone are on the bottom of the phone.
Edit: I meant the speakers that are used for “hands free mode”, which is what the user in the image is doing. The reason why people hold their phone like this is because it directs the speaker sound straight at them (again, in hands free mode).
As a former iPhone repair technician, I can confirm this is both true and false at the same time. There’s a speaker in the normal position for the ear as well, it all depends whether the user decided to put the phone into loudspeaker mode.
This comment coming from an Android user that’s just as guilty of this at times.
Probably around the pandemic when people became extra wary about hygiene - at least that’s my observation. I’ve also noticed that people listen to voice messages like this - if you’re in a loud environment and don’t have headphones, it kind of makes sense. It still looks stupid, and for normal phone calls it is stupid, since both the earpiece and the microphone are optimised for having the phone on your ear.
I am not ashamed to say I will talk on the phone like this often. I dont alway hold it to my mouth though just prefer more freedom with speaker phone. But I never do it in public
Right? I have another comment at -7 because it says you can hear the speakers better that way while driving.
I get the speakerphone hate. But if someone is in their car that’s less annoying than blasting it through the stereo. So who cares how someone holds their phone in this scenario? Especially when there is an actual benefit to holding it that way.
This entire post is the stupidest case of gatekeeping I’ve ever seen.
The theory I’ve heard is that people on reality TV shows would do this so the mics could pick up their conversations better. So naturally, brainless idiots without an original thought in their dense godforsaken skulls people who watch those shows started doing it in real life too because they saw popular people doing it on TV.
It’s just a theory, but it seems plausible because it’s clearly not how phones were designed to function on speakerphone or otherwise.
That’s where the trend is putting books spine first into a bookshelf came from too.
The tv producers don’t want to spend days asking for permission to use book spine graphics in the shot, not spend time blurring the film, so they flip the books around to hide all the spine art. It’s on HGTV a ton.
If you find visual clutter distracting or upsetting, it’s a pretty useful trick to still be able to own a bunch of books. Alphabetize your books, and you can still find them. And most people I know can find their favorites even without that.
It’s kind of like getting mad at people who organize their books by color. If you’re a visual person, there’s a half decent chance you remember the color of the book rather than remembering the author’s name.
Actually the holding the gun sideways was a practicality thing. When unloading a magazine rapidly you have limited control of the weapon’s recoil. When holding a gun upright the recoil moves it upwards, holding it sideways moves it sideways.
Now imagine you’re a gangter, ‘bout to come up on some punk steppin’ on your turf. You an da boyz gatted up ready to throw down. Get in the low-rider with your illegal Tek-9. Roll up on those fools ready to shed lead. Which way do you want your recoil going? Upwards? Or sideways.
Wow I almost feel singled out by this. But I presume that this is supposed to be in public. Which by every account is a dick move.
However I do this in private, I.e. in my car or at home. And the reason I do it is because I can’t hear a call without using the speaker phone. Hearing issues aren’t fun.
However the easier solution is headphones, but calls over Bluetooth can make things worse, from battery life to sound quality.
Wired headphones are the preferable solution to this but we all know what happened to those.
TL:DR I do this because of my hearing issues. In public this is a dick move, but headphones aren’t the solution they use to be.
but headphones aren’t the solution they use to be.
Not true. There’s air conduction, bone conduction(which is the same technology for people who actually do experience hearing loss), wired, non wired, in ear, over ear, on ear, noise cancelling and these are not that expensive that you can get it online so it’s super accessible.
It’s not the early 2000s anymore where you only get buds or on ear or whatever apple bullshit comes with your phone.
I don’t. I’m responding to the argument that headphones are not what they used to be. that is incorrect. There is more selection and varying types should one be selecting a pair.
Agreed, though sadly this doesn’t apply to me. Hearing issues doesn’t always mean hearing loss. I have Auditory Processing Disorder or Auditory Dyslexia means my hearing is good, but I don’t always understand what people are saying.
Speaker phone makes it easier for me to understand what the other person is saying. But again its a dick move to use it in public.
And why I avoid noisy bars and stuff. I noticed once during the fire drill at work, we were all standing outside and the loud alarm was beeping like a truck backing up and the whole time I couldn’t make out what people were saying. I could hear the noises coming from their mouths, but couldn’t understand a thing.
I have noise cancelling Sony earbuds for a while now. At this point I’ve just gotten use to how people talk, and guessing at what they said and I missed.
It’s not a mandatory feature for me personally, but I absolutely prefer having an actual headphone jack and die a little inside when a new phone doesn’t
You can “get around” that by using a usb c to 3.5mm audio adaptor, or a y adaptor that’s a 3.5mm audio and another USBC to allow for charging at the same time
I don’t mean to be rude, and I totally understand if it works better to use a speakerphone (some people have ear issues and can’t have things pressing against their ears). But if the issue is a phone is only held against one ear, can’t you use headphones or earphones that also transmit sounds to both ears?
I’m guessing they were explaining, not advocating. Most people would agree with you that there’s another option. Some people are resistant to that, unfortunately, including people I know.
Luckily for me, I already love my earpods. So, I’ll be covered when my hearing starts to go.
When someone calls and I expect it to be 60 seconds or less, I don’t wanna go fumbling in my bag for 30 seconds to find the headphones and spend another 20 making sure they hook up to my phone properly.
Plus I have epilepsy and my seizures increase when I have long calls with the phone against my face or with TWS earbuds in, which can apparently (and not too uncommonly) be triggered by the type of radiation they put off, even though it’s at very low levels. But just 3 inches further from my face and no problems. I know that’s not why a lot of people do it, and I still try not to in public, but there are various reasons that someone might.
but this is correct, that’s where the mic is, it’s more comfortable than holding it to my ear [especially the modern smartphone shape], and i like knowing i’m talking straight into the mic
The microphone was not designed to be talked straight into it like that. It was designed for someone to hold the phone like a human. The mics are designed to help pick up audio from the direction of your mouth when your phone is in the normal position, not the one you’re using. By attempting to maximize efficiency and talk into it, you’re actively making it worse for the other people you’re talking to.
You do know that when you switch to speaker phone it’s often switching the microphone setup, right? Like it’s going from earpiece to conference call setup… it’s not like it stays the same and blows out the other end. We have the technology to control noise input and background. This was ~ maybe ~ true of older phones, but it certainly isn’t today.
I talk on the phone like this due to being a walker & talker. So I pull up my work systems on my phone to update notes and email people as I’m talking. If that were the case the dozens of phone calls a day would tell me I’m way too loud.
Part of my background is in sysadmin (MDM) and AV. I’m METICULOUS about how things sound. I frequently check audio devices and always ask others on calls if it sounds good. I mostly talk to sales people now that are in an office on headsets and we’re all outgoing and straight forward enough that we would just tell someone immediately.
If you’re in public I wouldn’t be on speaker. It’s rude, annoying, and the mics change dynamics to pickup other voices as well, but in the comfort of my home for calls where I don’t want to put in/on headphones it’s much more comfortable to be on speaker.
Yes, and blasting it on speaker mode is a whole different problem. One that mainly ends with that person being an inconsiderate asshole and forcing everyone in the vicinity to listen to their conversation.
It’s just ‘Main Character Syndrome’ energy and needs to fuck off.
You do know you can be on speaker phone and not in public, right? You’re talking about one specific situation but breaking it down as if all people using speaker phone are somehow bad…
When I’m on speaker phone it’s in my own home when no one else is around. It’s a comfortable way for me to talk on a phone and it doesn’t bother anyone.
And I’m not judging your private behavior. At no point did I say I was judging your private behavior. But if you do it in public, you’re an asshole. I have never been talking about what you do privately because it’s privately. Everything here should be taken with the context of this being in public as was implied.
Some people have chubby cheeks, or don’t want to mess up their makeup would be my guess. The poster mentioned obsessive compulsive disorder, so your answers there. 👍
You’ve heard that people that sound uncomfortably loud, garbled and distorted, barely comprehensible, with intermittent popping and hisses over the phone? That’s you.
You have to insult people who have different head string and body fabric than you do. How else can you feel validated about your choice of head string and body fabric??
I like man buns! You better let me braid it once in a while though, while in an ADHD fuelled craze. V-necks though… never cared for the style, but you do you?
The way they put the string on top of their head means they’re a bad person because it’s different from how the commenter puts their head string, obviously.
To be fair, I’d be more concerned with the unkempt excuse for a beard being a sign of other, less visible issues. Sure, the bun is cringe AF, but adult-level hygiene is clutch for ranking as The One. 🤗
edit: ooh, touched a nerve with some? Go wash yourselves.
Interesting. Based on the definition “conditions and practices that help to maintain health and prevent the spread of diseases”, I’m guessing that you’re implying a beard categorized as unkempt can lead to disease.
Just because I’m trying to understand, is the issue hair’s length? If so, shampoo and conditioner can be used in larger amounts. The shampoo would pick up the dead skin cells, remove excess grease, and pick up all kinds of germs. The conditioner would reapply grease so that the hair is healthy and strong.
Is the issue the fact that this hair is so close to the mouth that, when eating, it could have sauces or stuff like that falling onto it? If so, shampoo or regular soap can clean it all up for it to be hygienic again.
You are correct in these hypotheses, yes, and details to a person’s overall presentation are some of the first introductions one has to said stranger’s tendencies, interests, and even self-worth. Of course, conjecture is not fact, and an educated guess is only as good as the education behind it.
Maybe I should be single, but this is my preferred way to speak on the phone when I’m not bothering anyone, and the enviornment is relatively quiet. It frees up my hands for a better range of motion if I’m doing anything else, and it removes my common accidental hang-up when my ear or face touches the display.
If the environment becomes noisy or people are around, I of course switch back to old-school DJ-gesture phone call mode.
Why are you holding it up to your face? I use speaker too if I’m busy and my hands are full but i put it down on a table. This has no advantage, you still have to hold it
If the phone is too far from your face, they can’t hear you as well. You don’t have to talk as loud to be heard when on speaker phone. Besides, I have a hard time hearing when I don’t use it, and I can clearly hear them when it’s on and near my face. They hear me better and I hear them better; definitely an advantage.
Part of what got me started was a bad microphone on my phone, but I realized it had advantages when you’re alone. Honestly, talking on the phone in public at all isn’t great. Everyone can hear your side of the conversation, and while it’s much better than eating pizza, people ought to avoid calls in public whenever possible. Whenever I’m around others, I keep the calls short, and when I’m alone and do take longer calls, I eat that pizza. Judge pizza eaters when you see them, but don’t feel shame for doing it when alone. While you’re at it, don’t let people having loud, vibrant phone conversations off the hook.
I sometimes move around in my house while talking, since I’m a nervous guy when it comes to phone calls. Having the phone at chest or waist level makes it a lot quicker to change hands or even use lower arms or elbows to hold things or open doors or whatever. It’s just less constraining, even if it’s marginal.
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