When the ball drops in Times Square, I’m going to yell “Steamboat Willie’s in the public domain (in the U.S. at least)” instead of “Happy New Year.”
Yes Disney is using clips from Steamboat Willie at the beginning of all movies and such to try to establish a case for trademark protections (again at least in the U.S.), but it’s still a bit of a victory.
They use a different version of it though, while based on the original they don’t only use it. You can’t claim only part of a intellectual work. That’s why Winnie the pooh in blood and honey is allowed, because its different from the Disney verison
I’m not sure I fully understand your statement here.
(For purpuoses of this conversation, I’ll be limiting my comments to U.S. law. I can’t say I’m any expert on that, even, but as little as I know about U.S. law, I know far less about any other country’s law. IANAL. Not legal advice.)
I’m referring to this intro sequence that they’ve started adding at the beginning of the significant majority of Disney movies and TV shows. (I don’t think they add it to Marvel or Star Wars things, for instance. Only to more explicitly Disney-branded ones.) It’s probably restored, but it’s the clip from the original Steamboat Willie short.
When you say “you can’t claim only part of an intellectual work” I assume you’re referring to copyright. But what I’m saying is that Disney has finally accepted that they can’t prevent copyright protections on the original Steamboat Willie short from expiring on January 1st 2024 (I don’t think there’s any likelihood of them pulling out a last-minute surprise before then) and are changing their approach. They’re trying to establish a case that they’re using Steamboat Willie (or that clip, at least) as a trademark. (Trademark law and copyright law are different. The rules are different.) I don’t think there’s any reason to suspect that a part/clip of the original Steamboat Willie short couldn’t be used as a trademark.
If someone made/released a film featuring Steamboat-Willie art of the Steamboat-Willie Mickey Mouse on January 2nd 2024, that would be fine from a copyright perspective. (So long as they didn’t do something else that infringed on copyright somewhere.) But it looks like Disney has specifically taken steps to ensure they have an option to come after such a person on trademark grounds.
Now (oh blast, I said I wasn’t going to talk about non-U.S. law, didn’t I? I guess I lied), my understanding about Blood and Honey is that a) it was made in Great Britain and b) the copyright in Great Britain technically hadn’t expired when Blood and Honey was released. Basically, Blood and Honey was (technically) a pirate film. It wasn’t (technically) allowed. (Any more so than would be an unlicensed romcom starring Darth Vader and Jar Jar Binks would be in the U.S. – both characters from works that are fully covered by copyright.) In fact the director of Blood and Honey has said he’s shocked he hasn’t been sued yet and that if Disney did sue, they’d probably have a case.
Now, theoretically, if someone had made a movie in the U.S. with Winnie the Pooh as a character after January 1st 2022, that wouldn’t have infringed any copyright so long as they used only art styles and story elements and such from what Winnie The Pooh works had entered the public domain. Mostly just the original Milne book.
There was a court case where someone made an unlicensed Sherlock Holmes book while some of the original Sherlock books were still in copyright but others had passed out of copyright protections and the courts basically said that you can use any element of Sherlock from the public domain books, but not any elements (such as his dog or his bipolar (which I’m guessing they called “manic depression”) diagnosis) that were from works still covered by copyright. (And it sounds like you understand that last bit. Just wanted to add clarification for other folks that might see this thread.)
So you basically just can’t use the character in the exact same way? How far does that go though? What if I made a Winnie the Pooh show that’s exactly the same but instead of Christopher Robbins it’s Kristoffer Robkins?
How close does it have to be? Is any shirt not allowed? Would a red tank top be OK? Or maybe put him in a maroon shirt? What if he wears a red shirt with a white collar? Feels like splitting hairs, but there IS a line somewhere.
This is Disney we talk about so getting sued is probably expected, they will explain in court how your character ripped of theirs, you defend. Court decides.
If you can point to a non Disney older source where these same details are present you have a likely win.
If there is a Christopher Robbins in the original you can use the name but if there is not it then having roughly the same letters or sound will likely be a loss.
Of course this more assumed law theory of not a layer. Some rich dudes can just trademark the name of fruit, a basic word or even a single letter and we just let them.
Thinking of “fake Winnie Poohs”, I was gaslit by my parents into thinking that the Soviet version of Winnie the Pooh I grew up watching was the OG and that the yellow bear in a red shirt was derivative of it. I couldn’t believe it when I found out that the Soviet version was the “fake” lol
I’ve felt a strong urge to sell “healing crystals” to people which they need to put up their butts to work properly ever since all those anti mask and anti vax nutjobs became very loud all over the media.
The guy who wants to lead our society literally can’t share a country with another guy. How can he be expected to make good policy for getting people to get along if he can’t get along?
Because for a shocking amount of people, this is “manly”. Compromising and trying to get along with other people is WRONG and BAD and you should get angry when you don’t get your way.
You’re in good company. The same thing happened to me and my posts. Also happened to Picard M. We both had our posts removed and is banned for reasons we couldn’t figure out. I ended up making a second account to ask that instance why my posts weren’t able to be seen. Then the same admin (the one who banned us and removed the posts) then contacted us to try to elaborate but has no real answer. Started giving reasons for removal that made no sense within reality, nevermind their insanely vague rules.
The mods and admins are way too inconsistent over there. They do what they want, they don’t enforce. It’s exactly why I outright left lemmy.ml and don’t bother to engage with them anymore. It’s not consistent enough to know what to do and what not to do.
They wanna act like petulant children and throw shit at the walls then they can do so on their own.
Ancient history had a lot of instances of disliked people being exiled from a territory. Now that all land is claimed, I guess we can’t do that anymore.
I don’t even know which country would want Trump instead. Russia might not even find him useful from within their borders.
Generally agree. but the line work here looks exactly like line work for tatoos on skin. If it was drawn on, you wouldn’t have the green bleeding out and in to the line work. That happens because the colors are mixing sub-dermally, just below the surface of the skin. This is generally because your fill needles are huge bundles of several needles and they always tend to bleed into/under the black line work. That’s why you need extremely thick, well defined lines so it can hide the color fills bleeding through. In this case, it looks like some of the color got through.
The white as well is pretty spot on for white inkwork. That’s the white color you get only for the first few months of a color tattoo.
Honestly, I think this is legit.
Could be wrong, but it looks real.
Source: I have many, many tattoos over much of my body, and several in color with white accents that looked exactly like this for the first few months after it healed.
There are artists that do permanent makeup that isn’t microblading, but iirc the technique is pretty different than most other areas of the body, so most don’t bother with it.
I don’t even give a shit about speed running. I just like hearing how people figure out weird ass glitches. Though most of the time, the explanation literally boils down to “they got extremely lucky.” Like the current world record for E2M3 in Quake.
Go to the “Modlog” page at the very bottom of the web interface for your instance. You can search moderation tasks by username, such as your own, and it should show removed content.
I’ve found actual instance bans don’t federate reliably though, e.g i cant see any of my lemmy.ml bans on lemmy.one. so you’d have to check the target instances by opening their web page in an incognito or logged-out browser window, and view their modlog directly instead of your home instances’ modlog.
I’ve just seen I had a comment removed from lemmy.ml, for “rule 1” reasons but don’t really see what’s wrong with the comment other than it goes against the political grain of the community (world news).
Yeah. I think it’s basically they use it as a blanket rule to sensor content that goes against their political narrative.
I just realised that you can go to the instance in question and view search the modlog, it seems it has more entries. I actually got a ban! No idea why.
Fanks for the tip m8 just discovered the comment below had been banned for 'rule ’ It’s nice to know that my comment made an lemmyml admin so butthurt that he actually had to get off his cheese dorito and self injackulation ridden lazyboy chair kiss his little picture off marx lenin and xi jinping and move his mobility scooter two feet to his computer open it up and shadow ban me for half week for no reason just rule 1 i think we all know the reason why they removed the main comment which goes into proper detail I can’t remember what if is exactly since its been a week since I posted thid
Yes. I have posted these links multiple times now.
This took me 5 seconds of research. If were being passive aggressive here ive gotta say. are you sure you didn’t get dropped on the head as a baby or eat copious amounts of lead
Hey what happened to the 3rd reply that was just here? I tried to upvote and it wasn’t working, I reloaded and it’s gone! It was gold, dude! Put it back!
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