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ivanafterall, in So sad when it happens
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A real Linux boi would rewrite the program from scratch custom tailored to his personal needs.

JoMiran,
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I run Arch , by the way.

ivanafterall,
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sploosh

manofdiamond,

I use gentoo, fyi

firecat,

Until remember patient exists and legally cannot create another copy. Sure you made one yourself but can never release it to the public.

ZILtoid1991,
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Even without that, things can go really bad:

  1. You're the only developer, then you burn out on the project.
  2. You underbake the UI so much your project becomes infamous for how hard it is to use, complete with an elitist userbase that just screams "git gud" memes at everyone asking for help (most often happens to dev tools).

The rare occasion, it'll become like Krita, modern Blender, Audacity, etc.

agent_flounder,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.world avatar

Ha you think I can possibly code a UI ? Command line only. Maybe curses if absolutely necessary.

Still under baked…

Taleya,

S2g linux users are their own worst enemies

ivanafterall,
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If you aren't creating custom software to address one-off needs, are you really a Linux user?

TheCheddarCheese,
@TheCheddarCheese@lemmy.world avatar

i feel so incompetent compared to other linux users, like i didnt even know flatpak had a repair command until today

turbowafflz,

I’ve been using linux for 10 or 11 years and I also didn’t know flatpak had a repair command, so don’t feel too bad

ivanafterall,
@ivanafterall@kbin.social avatar

If it makes you feel any better, I'm a total fraud. I've used Linux Mint a few times, so now I can say I'm a Linux user.

ProfessorProteus,
@ProfessorProteus@lemmy.world avatar

Exactly the same with me. Very occasional Mint user. I will never touch Win11, so when Win10 hits EoL I’m screwed if I haven’t learned to deal with the friction of learning Linux.

I may end up regressing to a PC-less monke until I figure it out. Windows can kiss my primate ass.

agent_flounder,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.world avatar

Same (after reading this comment). Flatpak is some new fangled contraption. /s

A person can’t know everything.

oatscoop,

Feh.

The only flatpacks I trust are made in Sweden.

asexualchangeling,

Meanwhile I’m over here, not used windows on my own machine in more than 1.75 years and I don’t even touch the terminal most of the time, I know how some commands work, but I hardly touch them

I should really learn to do more with it, but I have my system setup and working how I like, So I don’t really have motivation to learn to do all this other cool stuff

sebinspace, in Bye bye edge

Who gives a shit what other people use?

Honytawk,

Too many Linux users do, unfortinuately.

wuphysics87,

Windows is made by a company that would make this change in some countries but not all countries. We are not free until we are all free. Some operating systems guarantee that. Others do not.

jasondj,

I don’t disagree with you but dude people are sick of the politicization of everything and their operating system doesn’t even get onto that radar. They are ignorant and quite happy of it. Please let the pigs eat their shit in peace.

That said, it is quite telling that Microsoft apparently finds it more advantageous to have two divergent feature sets than to apply the change universally.

wuphysics87,

I get where you are coming from. FWIW I’m being a jackass for the hell of it rather than trying to start a flame war. But if someone is to get upset about it, perhaps its something for them to reflect on later.

synapse1278, in Bye bye edge
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Lets be honest, people don’t switch to Linux because it’s better, we switch because of the cute pinguin mascot !

InternetCitizen2,

Or Chameleon if in EU.

Honza,

Don’t forget the cute blue upercase A.

hemko,

Femboy A :3

AnUnusualRelic,
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Never heard of anything like that. The chameleon it is.

uis,
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It’s OpenSUSE.

Or Larry the Cow.

Andrew15_5,
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And because it’s free in many ways.

vox, (edited ) in Need to switch to Hanna Montana Linux now
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Microsoft:

adding telemetry to the terminal.
(in a recent poweshell update)

lemmesay,
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with microsoft, it’s everyday affair.

EfreetSK, in Need to switch to Hanna Montana Linux now
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Looking at your history, you really hate Ubuntu u/RmDebArc_5, don’t you?

RmDebArc_5,
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I don’t hate Ubuntu, it used to be my favorite distro and I haven’t found anything that really replaces it. I hate Canonical for destroying my favorite distro

friend_of_satan,

Debian 12 is the best destination after Ubuntu if you’re switching because you hate stupid Canonical things. I switched a few months ago and it was really easy and has been awesome.

RmDebArc_5,
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I used Debian quite a while after switching from Ubuntu, but the outdated packages made me quit. I will probably try Debian testing/sid soon

electric_nan,

Linux Mint Debian Edition. Has a lot of the comforts and niceties you got from Ubuntu compared to Debian.

Lettuceeatlettuce,
@Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml avatar

Been using this for the last few months on my laptop, overall a pretty solid experience.

pete_the_cat,

Go with Arch, it has just as many packages available as Ubuntu and more, if you use the AUR. If you want something more stable/less changing use the LTS kernel instead of the mainline kernel.

RmDebArc_5,
@RmDebArc_5@lemmy.ml avatar

Currently on EndeavorOS

hersh,

Debian Stable is an excellent replacement for Ubuntu LTS.

Mint is an excellent replacement for mainline Ubuntu.

rikudou,
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Linux Mint?

18107,

Linux Mint Debian Edition

Gork, in happy 1_700_000_000 everyone!

Nothing existed prior to January 1, 1970.

It is known.

PlasticExistence,

It is known.

TimeSquirrel,
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From the atomic age into the information age. That date is a good marker.

ininewcrow,
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*Disinformation Age

The Information Age appeared for a brief moment and went straight into the Disinformation Age

018118055,

End of universe, 2038.

Abnorc, in Screw init wars, real OGs discriminate based on DE

While you blissfully ignore it, systemd is planning the downfall of humanity. Don’t fall for its lies.

laurelraven,

The only correct take right here

InternetCitizen2,

Now I want to do some PRs for systemD.

kucing,

Yes, very sad. Anyway.

ikidd,
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I, for one, welcome our new systemd overlords…

random_character_a, in Not really, since I'm the admin 😁
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Is that Torvalds?

NoSpotOfGround,

I doubt it, that would be too much of a coincidence to have two people named Torvalds in one picture.

BurnedDonut,

You don’t know? He is Torvalds Tsubasa long lost Japanese cousin of his.

random_character_a,
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Yes. Finlands Swedish speaking minority is rowdy and fruitful that way.

BurnedDonut,

That’s the one… Ahahaha

Varyk,

Haha, you goofy goofball

Sanctus, in I don't...
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Distros should be free to evolve and fill any amd every niche. Let the rivers of life flow.

db2,

It is by the juice of distro that thoughts acquire speed, the fingers acquire stains. The stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set my rig in motion.

hperrin, in Year of the Diagonal Linux Desktop, y'all

I’m just sitting here patiently waiting for hexagonal displays.

Nariom,

What about a pyramid tablet?

hperrin,

Only if I also get a dodecahedral phone.

Adler180,

Hexagons are the bestagons.

key,
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Needs to be circular to maximize efficiency

FuglyDuck,
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If we could get edge-to-edge displays, hexagonal panels with a spherical radius will be the next big thing for battle stations.

(By spherical, I mean its curved so it can be tiled into a sphere.)

Gork,

Let’s go one step further and build a monitor orb with a chair in the center.

FuglyDuck,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

I mean, yes. That’s what I was getting at.

something like this:
https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/b9f94807-609f-4318-a3a9-c9f1c567a0e2.png
but better.

PropaGandalf,

You mean VR?

possiblylinux127, in Year of Linux on the Desktop

Why not Linux mint? It is way more use friendly.

Also why on earth is anyone using windows 7 in 2023. I stopped using it to move to Linux back in 2016

user224,
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I do, in VirtualBox. I have a 20 year old printer, and the drivers don’t work in newer Windows versions. I mean, at all. The installer crashes, and automatic driver installer only gets the scanner working.

Anyway, I don’t use Windows. It works on Linux. Kinda. In Linux Mint, I just can’t use high DPI, but I can scan, print, and see “remaining ink” just fine.
Manjaro is another story. Only “Normal Grayscale” works, hp-toolbox doesn’t even show the color cartridge. So I just use Windows 7 with the drivers as the heaviest printer driver ever.

But when I have to use Windows (e.g.: at school), I prefer Windows 7. Windows 10/11 have really weird control, and they are SLOW. Also, when installing Windows 10 onto school computers, nobody bothered to install drivers.
I like the ThinkPad T440s laptops that are in one class. But after upgrade to Windows 10 they have some battery charging issues, and some of them just fail to boot from time-to-time. I use the last one with Windows 7 because it just works.

possiblylinux127, (edited )

You really should not be using Windows 7. If you need to for old software make sure it is isolated and doesn’t have network access. It is very insecure at this point.

DerMann,

Anyone who down voted pls explain…

douglasg14b,
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Perhaps because this is such a typical Linux-bro meme?

By no means is it more user friendly. I drive it daily, my grandmother most definitely could not, they’re way too many times when something stops working or goes wrong with DEs.

Cethin,

It depends on what you mean. For me, it’s pretty user friendly, but I’m also fairly comfortable using a terminal and am very technologically literate. The fact it handles tedious tasks automatically (or can be made to trivially) is so much nicer than Windows. You can easily update all applications and your system in a matter of seconds. Compared to Windows where the application itself has to check for updates when it launches, sends you to download the installer, you have to run that and close the previous version, relaunch, and then you’re finally updated for that single application. Let’s not talk about system updates. Linux is more friendly. It requires a certain level of competence that Windows doesn’t, but if you’re above that level it’s generally better.

Sure, things can go wrong with DEs and other stuff, but it’s often easier than when things go wrong in Windows. Have you ever had the desktop or Explorer crash in Windows? It’s a bad time. Windows is not user friendly. People are just used to it.

NikkiDimes,

Why do so many Linux users not understand the meaning of user-friendly?

ILikeBoobies, (edited )

Because anyone who has used Linux thinks user friendly means things just work and settings are in the same place as last time

Linux users tend to be more GUI-oriented than Windows users as well

Cethin,

They both do things that are more user-friendly than the other. The fact you think it isn’t user-friendly is really showing who doesn’t understand the term. I listed a few things Linux handles better than Windows, and there are many more. Windows fails at many steps, but people accept they understand Windows and deal with it. Windows also doesn’t have any options for customization, so it’s the same bad for everyone, which does help people solve issues, though they maybe shouldn’t have had them in the first place.

NikkiDimes,

Linux is more friendly. It requires a certain level of competence that Windows doesn’t, but if you’re above that level it’s generally better.

😂

lud, (edited )

I also find those constant Linux comments annoying but one should really avoid using Windows 7. Win 7 has been out of support for a long time, either update to Win 10 (if possible), air gap it, install some other OS like Linux, or consider replacing the computer.

rab, (edited )

Ya I’m a Linux system administrator and comments like that are beyond annoying. Linux is not user friendly lol

Also my workstation is Windows 11, your tears fuel me

possiblylinux127,

Clearly you haven’t used desktop Linux for any period of time. Its not the same as a server and is pretty nice and friendly.

banneryear1868,

Windows has more minor problems that are superficial and easy to fix, Linux has less problems but when it does they’re more significant and detrimental.

rab, (edited )

I don’t have patience for issues on my workstation, I run fedora on my personal laptop

I get why everyone hates windows but it literally just works

possiblylinux127,

I guess I’ve had the opposite experience. Maybe its just that I know how to fix Linux but not windows.

banneryear1868,

Yeah I’m a Linux and Windows sysadmin for almost 15 years and don’t really care what it is in practice, just disagree with Microsoft on many things. People have actually argued to me here why I shouldn’t use Windows Server in an enterprise setting, as if a sysadmin who doesn’t prefer Windows would have any bearing on such things. It’s also funny how people seem to think managing Windows is very different than managing Linux, you’re basically doing the same things, I really only interact with Windows in the same manner I interact with Linux it’s just remote powershell instead of ssh. Building Windows server is just running a powershell script, building Linux server is just running the playbook.

Also I disable mostly everything through group policy on Windows and remove all the dumb stuff with remove-appxpackage. Use both for workstations too.

Wolfwood1, (edited )

That’s my experience as well. I’ve been a Mint user for around 6 years (2012 to 2018 or 2019), with different DEs (Gnome, Cinnamon and Mate) and installations and there was always something that stopped working all of a sudden, or something wrong with Mint altogether that made the experience bittersweet. I even tried LMDE for a bit and didn’t last a week using it.

I ended up hopping to Antergos (RIP) and have been with it ever since.

hangonasecond,

I think they mean more user friendly than plain Ubuntu.

banneryear1868,

I’d love if Linux could do everything but I still keep a Windows laptop. Mostly because I don’t want to go forum diving to update the firmware on my synthesizers or exert effort into something that should be thoughtless and trivial.

possiblylinux127,

Maybe use windows 10? If you are going to use windows at least use a supported build

JTskulk,

I used Windows 7 in 2023. It’s the best windows that still ran stuff but obviously that’s changing. I made the switch in April and have been dumbfounded by just how great proton is at running all my games.

camelbeard, (edited ) in This truly is the year of the linux desktop

Do we really want to be bigger anyway? I kind of like where Linux as a desktop isn’t really big enough for all the scammers and malware makers to care.

(And I know it’s huge for servers and malware also targets that, but they are usually maintained by professionals, not your parents that would probably run every shell script they are offered as help)

If Linux would become the biggest desktop os you are going to find so much more bad advice whenever searching for help online. I wonder if the nice people we have now are really ready for when the terrible people invade the community.

Murdoc,

Perhaps a little lesd nice for those of us already using linux, but definitely better for the majority of people for getting less scammed by big corps. But one plus for us would be better support for apps and games that are still mostly or exclusively on other OSes.

mynamesnotrick,

So many distros, getting bigger overall with maybe one popular linux distro doesnt have the issue when there are so alternatives.

Cannacheques,

Yeah kind of partially agree but not entirely sure what to say man. I’ve had my windows machine and my Linux box hacked in the past, didn’t do much besides ruin my ability to do my homework and general productivity, so I can’t say much.

I would prefer there to be more actual meaningful stuff out there for there to be hacked and or made different but a lot of the time almost all complex systems compound into or towards static failure, just look at the USA with being a military hegemony like Sparta or China slowly running out of people to sell junk to, the big oil companies slowly trying to micromanage the shift to renewables, people that believe in conformity, confucianism and “the myth of stability” ironically usually slow down all of societies progress rather than supporting an actual stable diffusion of change

CosmicCleric, (edited )
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Do we really want to be bigger anyway?

YES. It needs more market share to influence companies financially to make products for it.

It’s truly starting to make inroads recently, but it still has a ways to go.

I kind of like where Linux as a desktop isn’t really big enough for all the scammers and malware makers to care.

It’s also not big enough for gaming companies to truly care, unfortunately.

Darorad,

Thankfully valve does, linux gaming’s gotten to a really great state in the last few years.

LainOfTheWired, in Where they went Tim?
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I wouldn’t expect logic from the company that now acts like unreal and unreal tournament which made them the company they are today don’t exist. Like seriously you delisted all of it. What is wrong with you!

A7thStone, in I love vim
finestnothing,

Wait til he learns about doom emacs which is emacs + vim keybinds (and a lot of other QOL features)

Emacs is a great OS with a bad editor
Vim is a great editor with a bad OS

lemmesay,
@lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Jesus Christ. you’re telling me this now?
I had heard about doom emacs, but never bothered to really look into it.
there goes my weekend.

32b99410_da5b,

Doom is EVIL! github.com/emacs-evil/evil

Well, Doom has Evil, evil collection, etc enabled by default. But that’s less quippy.

rtxn,

DistroTube is a great source for Doom-related knowledge (as long as you ignore his “old man yells at cloud” videos).

lemmesay,
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thanks to your comment, I looked up a couple of his videos. Emacs(especially org mode) sounds very interesting. I’ll be investing more time in it.

Black616Angel,

Lol, haven’t heard that name in a long time.

I watched him for a while and even kinda liked some of his “old man yells art cloud” videos, but he lost me around the time of his “explaining Linux to newbies” video.

callyral,
@callyral@pawb.social avatar

Vim is a great editor without an OS*

lemmesay,
@lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

wanna bet how long til I switch to Emacs :p

parascent, in Yeah, very sorry that this app is Windows only, would love to switch to Mac

Sorry but as a Linux user I found that Windows is better than macos. Macos doesn’t even have proper window management.

rottingleaf,

My experience is the same, but still it’s a Unix-like system. People who fear Linux may do Unix-like things with it. It’s worth something.

SpaceCadet,
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Yeah, but none of the system tools and applications follow Unix-like paradigms, so it’s really only Unix-like in name. Sure you can launch a bash or zsh shell, but there aren’t a lot of useful things you can do with that without installing a bunch of third party tools like brew, so the experience isn’t all that different from having to install Cygwin or WSL in Windows.

rottingleaf,

Yeah, but none of the system tools and applications follow Unix-like paradigms,

Eh, WTF? It has normal Unix-like userland tools.

but there aren’t a lot of useful things you can do with that without installing a bunch of third party tools like brew

You can’t do much without a package manager under Linux either.

Homebrew, macports, pkgsrc etc are all just ports collections, like the FreeBSD one. A pretty Unixy kind of thing to use, more so than apt or yum.

I hate Apple GUI, but technically it’s almost as good as Linux to use.

SpaceCadet,
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Eh, WTF? It has normal Unix-like userland tools.

You don’t understand what I mean.

I mean that you can’t really do much with those userland tools to effectively manage and configure your system. All configuration is abstracted away in a forest of xml files (i.e. /Library/Preferences) that’s as opaque and undocumented as the Windows registry and which you’re not supposed to touch other than with the approved GUI tools.

MacOS applications never follow Unix principles either regarding file placement.

So yeah while MacOS technically still is “Unix”, it really is a giant monolithic blob of shite built on top of the skeleton of what once was a decent Unix.

rottingleaf,

You don’t understand what I mean.

Well, you haven’t been very specific with your language.

All configuration is abstracted away in a forest of xml files (i.e. /Library/Preferences) that’s as opaque and undocumented as the Windows registry and which you’re not supposed to touch other than with the approved GUI tools.

It’s been some time since I touched MacOS, but there is a CLI tool for editing those preferences. Not unlike gconf. Actually gconf is apparently inspired by that and the Windows registry you so conveniently mentioned.

Not that I’m a fan, quite the opposite.

MacOS applications never follow Unix principles either regarding file placement.

“Unix principles” is the same as “Unix philosophy”, while you apparently mean Linux FHS. Yes, it’s understandably ignored. Yes, maybe it shouldn’t be.

So yeah while MacOS technically still is “Unix”, it really is a giant monolithic blob of shite built on top of the skeleton of what once was a decent Unix.

Well, see, comparing FreeBSD to Linux with its development path, for example, you might feel as if Linux was slowly moving in that direction as well. Linux users usually laugh at that sentiment and say that it’s evolution. So - MacOS too has what its developers considered evolution from what Linux/FreeBSD/… have.

Ah, also X11 is not that integral and traditional for Unix, if you imply that as well. Sun had its SunView in the olden days. There were other windowing systems.

mac,
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To add with Linux being unix-like not certified unix, macOS doesn’t need to implement anything in Linux fhs style.

mac,
@mac@infosec.pub avatar

Linux is unix-like, macOS is certified unix.

rottingleaf,

Certification is irrelevant really. There are Linux distribution releases which have been certified, just like MacOS.

mac,
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  • rottingleaf,

    It would appear then that no MacOS before 14.0 Sonoma is a certified Unix. Which is obviously false. Which means that your implication that this page lists everything certified is wrong.

    I said “releases”, because these were specific versions a few years ago. Perhaps nothing relevant today was certified, still what I remember is not that different from the mundane Red Hat of the same year.

    Which is all useless talk cause when we say Unix as something important, we mean “genetic Unix”, as in something of being derived from the same code base, culture, philosophy, etc, not “legal Unix” as a trademark, because that’s not the only cool-looking word one can imagine to name an OS.

    So obviously BSDs are real Unix then, Linux is something weird and MacOS is bullshit.

    netchami,

    Windows doesn’t even have a proper terminal lol

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