This would be the day that I die. And it comes out with some serious force like Katy Perry getting absolutely blasted to the floor? But the person who opens it is some old mayor or something. My entire life would have a point.
I don’t play these games, but my kids do. And I am thinking (as a man), why wouldn’t I want my character to be a hot girl. If I an going to spend hundreds of hours staring at an ass, I would rather it be a hot girl ass.
If your main goal is just to create a character that looks as lewd as possible, that’s a little sus in my books. Preferences and all that, I know, but do we really need to add to the already prevalent objectification of women?
Edit: God forbid you actually question your actions, thoughts, and beliefs
Xiangling (the character OP is playing) is (in)famously meta, since she is easy to get, easy to play and very overpowered. All National and International teams revolve around her, and even random teams splash her because she’s just so good.
I will be one of the first people in line to call out someone for objectifying women, but these are cartoon women. I really don’t think it’s a big deal. I really think it’s okay to ogle a fictional ass. It’s not my thing, but it doesn’t hurt anyone. It’s a victimless crime.
If I have the choice, I like to have my protagonist as a woman because it’s just you know different from the norm. Like I chose a female shepherd in Mass effect and now I can’t see that character as anything but a badass woman.
What if I liked to make my female character as funny as possible because that’s what I find attractive, Is that objectifying them? What if I made them red headed for that reason, is that objectifying them? Objectifying is to treat a woman like an object. Liking a particular type of woman is your preference, not an objectification of women.
I’m was right there with you a few years ago. My daughter plays, and I was sure to point out how it was catering to male fantasy and all that. But then I took her to some conventions she asked to go to. Do you know what I saw. More women then men.
And there was a space of computers that people could stop and play genshin and the like. Again more women then men. And the women were all playing genshin while the guys were playing games with more zoomed out interactions. It turns out that women are a big part of the reason for the intricate costumes on female characters and such. I still don’t know what really to make of it all, but I do know my first impression of a game just objectifying women for male pleasure is not accurate. And don’t get me started on the female cosplayers at these conventions.
Thanks for taking the time to write out a response. I think it might depend on the game and some games are probably “better” examples of what I meant. As long as it’s equal for both male as well as female characters, I don’t mind at all since that would be equality then. But in a game like Monster Hunter, some armour sets are just quite… exposing. Like, you’re fighting giant monsters, dragons and what not, but it’s probably a good idea to run around with an exposed chest and legs whilst the rest being covered by armour. The definition of armour is really loose then, I feel like.
As long as the armour/outfit fits in with the game world, I don’t mind too much since you can come up with lore reasons for why a certain piece of clothing or armour is designed the way it is. However, there certainly examples of both where it’s quite obvious that they’ve been designed for the male gaze first and foremost.
Totally agree. Viva la dirt does some great and hilarious videos about female armor in games. And some games really go overboard. I just found that it wasn’t as one dimensional as I originally thought.
For sure! It’s a tough line to walk sometimes. I guess I’d rather be a little more cautious personally. I wasn’t trying to attack anyone - just voicing my thoughts. Didn’t excpect this comment to be received as negatively as it was.
Eh sometimes people just see a downvote and they all pile on. I thought your comment was very reasonable and added to the conversation so I undid one of them, even though I don’t necessarily agree with it. Keep doing you friend. Happy holidays!
I’ve always thought we should have two types of vote. Agree/disagree and something about quality. I like to see opinions I don’t agree with. It is valuable info and makes things less of an ech chamber. But the internet is the internet.
Exactly! Why does everything have to be sexual at all times in games? Male gaze is a thing, and it’s kind of shocking that people are so seemingly ignorant about it. Just go watch porn lmao
It really was just a joke. But at the same time it doesn’t have to be about being horny or climaxing. Aside from any teenagers present most of us don’t get a hard on just from seeing a pretty girl. It can still be more pleasing for us to look at a pretty girl (if that is what we prefer) without getting horny.
It can still be more pleasing for us to look at a pretty girl (if that is what we prefer) without getting horny.
You do you. Certainly not shaming. Still, I do find everything is being sexualised nowadays;
Ads, thumbnails, films, music, video games—almost the entire internet. Ever tried scrolling through All on Lemmy or Reddit? Won’t take long for you to find erotica or something of the likes. YouTube and Twitch are even worse. Women creating content whilst partially showing and thousands of men throwing a bunch of money at them—or time for that matter (which gets them ad revenue). Not much different from OF if you ask me.
The problem is you can’t escape it. And it’s affecting children as well. They see all of it and think it’s normal. Take a glance at TikTok and you’ll understand.
In the end, I’d rather play a game for its story and gameplay instead of playing it for the “boobs and vags”. There is enough of that already.
Yeah, it really is everywhere. I am constantly telling my daughter that it isn’t normal. I personally don’t play those types of games either. I am more satisfactory, portal and such type games. I only know about them because my kids play and I pay attention to what they play. I am only a year or so away from having to explain how fake porn is. I don’t know if the schools discuss that or not, but they probably should given how easy it is to access, and how many parents don’t want to talk about it.
Regarding Genshin’s large female audience, (1) there are a lot of hot male characters, (2) its two sister games have a lot of gay / lesbian characters, and therefore a large LGBT fanbase, and (3) the Genshin community is (relatively) friendly and casual, since there is no PvP.
It’s a weird gen Z thing. The original point of the “no one” meme was to make jokes about people responding to things nobody has ever said. Subverting the punchline is a way to increase humor because it’s not expected. Misusing the meme phrase entirely sets you up to think the meme is going in a direction you’re familiar with only to be a completely different meme, thus increasing the humor. However the “no one” meme has been used this way so often that misusing it became the default use of it instead. Now the humor from it comes from the opposite, in that it’s basically a universal buildup that works for any joke. More or less it’s a beat phrase that sets up a brief moment of suspense for the punchline, similar to how comics will have dialogueless beat panels to increase the humor of the punchline.
Gen Z grew up with this kind of humor, which is why they think it’s so much funnier than older people do. Equally, gen alpha will likely have completely different humor gen Z doesn’t understand.
I understand that it’s somehow being used incorrectly, but I’m not sure I understand that a correct usage of it would be.
Isx the joke here supposed to be “nobody has ever said girl’s hands are cold”?
Because that’s a common trope in TV shows, novels, regular conversation.
If the joke is that girl’s hands are cold, why would you need “no one”, and if the joke is that nobody would talk about girls hands being cold, then clearly that’s incorrect.
I appreciate the long explanation, I just do not understand it yet and I’ve received so many different explanations of what “no one” is supposed to mean without getting any closer to what the joke is.
And I completely agree that whatever the original meaning was is essentially lost in people just put the phrase “no one” in front of any image pretending it is a setup to a joke that it is not.
That’s why I crop these images, because there doesn’t seem to be anything semantically or comedically gained from “no one”.
Put simply it isn’t a joke. It’s evolved to the point where it basically means “prepare yourself, a joke’s coming.”
It’s just a meme that got so overused that it doesn’t mean anything anymore.
Think of it like how 90% of knock knock jokes don’t need the setup of answering the door, it’s just a familiar setup. Why is a banana knocking on the door? Why does there need to be a door in the setup of interrupting cow? That’s what “no one” means to younger people. It’s a familiar way to set up the joke.
Edit: I forgot to mention, correct usage would be something like:
Nobody:
Me: A trillion lions could totally defeat the sun.
The joke being nobody asked, nobody cares, and I said it anyway.
Okay, thank you for the explanation, I think I understand the structure now.
It’s a non-sequitir with an extra step, and despite the setup only making sense preceding non-sequitirs, the setup is used constantly with things people commonly talk about, are obviously popular or easy to get.
I think the knock knock setup makes sense because it very clearly sets the audience in a framework, encouraging you to inquire about the situation that you interrupt by subverting expectations via a punchline.
The no one line seems more like gilding a lily, a hat on a hat, superfluous.
It doesn’t add much to a joke or non-sequitur, it’s just pointing out that this thing from left field is from left field, while of course if the statement was from left field then you wouldn’t need to explain that it was from left field.
Weird.
I understand it better now, and I appreciate your explanation, but I’ll keep cropping these as I see them.
The no one line feels too much like a kindergartener rubbing their hands together like “I have a joke for you! My joke is a statement!”
Feel free. The whole “no one” thing has gotten a bit annoying for me too, since the initial memes of it showed up well into my adulthood, well past when my sense of humor had already developed and mostly solidified. I suppose we’re all becoming old people shaking our fist at those darn kids we can’t understand. It’s just good to keep in mind they grew up in a different world with different jokes and games, so their humor is always gonna seem a little weird.
I prefer to embrace it and just use the memes even more wrong to make them cringe. I think that’s hilarious.
Nope, you neglected the worst offender… SciFi, that they renamed to SyFy (and I pronounce “siffy” or “siffylis” now) that used to have good science fiction but decided WWE and ghost hunting was the way to go.
I know, but the rest of the history of the show is kind of bleak. They had two Netflix seasons before Netflix shitcanned them, then crowdfunded a successful (and terrific IMO) 13th season. This year, they had another crowdfunder, but they did it outside of Kickstarter and put minimal effort in, so it failed. I have no idea if the show will continue at this point. There is Rifftrax and The Mads, but they aren’t really the same. I need my puppets at the bottom of the screen!
NOw it’s Disney+ for Star Wars and Paramount+ for Star Trek. I was excited to find the trove of new Star Trek series the Pat for various reasons I didn’t watch in several years
I’m kind of afraid to know the answer about whether I was fooled by marketing …… when CBS tried to kick off their own personal streaming service with the new Star Treks, I refused to play that game. You’re not getting a subscription for every tv network. Now that the service is Paramount+, I’ll pay (for a while) to also get a studio’s worth of new and old movies. Please tell me there’s a real difference, and I wasn’t just fooled by re-marketing the same old shit
I had this with a person who said their screen stayed blank no matter what they did. I came down, saw the power light on the monitor was off, saw the plug was not plugged in, and fixed it. She was very embarrassed.
I myself had this problem with my monitor when I first bought it. It has weird touch buttons instead of normal buttons, I plugged it into the computer and kept hitting the power button and it wouldn’t come on. I was getting annoyed that it was broken… Then I realized I only plugged it into the computer and forgot the freakin’ power cable when I was about to pack it back up and take it back to the store. 🤦♂️
This reminds me. At work, I’ve had to help during rapid consultation procedures for surgeons while they are performing a surgery. It involves you cutting tissue microscopically thin with a very sharp blade within this specialized machine.
Well one day I am cutting and cutting and I just can’t get anything to work. It’s making a mess and fucking everything up.
I look down and realize I didn’t even have the blade in the machine lmaooo. I was trying to cut with blunt metal. What a goober move.
I was running hackintosh along side others OSes. Keep in mind it was working fine until it wasn’t. So this hackintosh one day started having a problem. After some time of inactivity, the monitor would sleep. Once it did, it wouldn’t come back up. Only a reboot would help. Eventually I thought it was incompatible with the DVI output since I saw similar hackintosh issues online. I bought a new monitor that would support display port. When I was disconnecting everything I notice that the DVI port wasn’t fully plugged in. 🤦♂️
My Monitor used to turn off randomly for no reason. Until I noticed it turned off every time my mini fridge kicked in, move mini fridge plug to a different wall port and issue resolved.
Make sure you aren’t overloading your wall sockets people!
My cheap electric razor throws a ton of noise onto whatever electrical circuit it’s plugged into
How to sort out ZFS filesystem errors
That the bathroom socket I plug my razor into and the plug across the house that the main desktop is plugged into happen to be on the same electrical circuit
Übahaupt, jetzt wo si Hochdeutsch imma mea duachsetzt, und vü junge Leit übahaupt nimma richtig östareichisch^1^ redn leanan, missn ma doch schaun, dass unsa Sproch net oafoch ausstiabt, oda?
Mia hom a a longe Tradition, wonns um Mundoatdichtung geht. Da Dichta von da obaöstareichischn Hymne zum Beispü, da Stelzhamer Franz, hot gonz vü in Mundoat gschribn.
Und weis ma grod eifoit: Es gibt a a eigene Wikipedia in unsam Dialekt: bar.wikipedia.org Oba do dua i ma söm schwah, dass i des vasteh. De is scho in da äagstn von de oagn Mundoatn gschribm.
(So, jetzt woas i net, wöcha Sproch i im Dropdown do untn auswöhn soid… Wei wirklich Deitsch is des jo net…)
[^1^] I am fully aware that the dialect I’m writing in is not called “Austrian”. The two big dialects spoken in Austria are “Alemannic” and “Bavarian”, and the one I’m writing is the Bavarian dialect. I’m only using the word “östareichisch” here, because that’s what I expect most people to use in spoken conversation.
Oh Gott, Oida. Ich habs gerade geschafft, den Text zu entziffern. Aber ernsthaft, ich glaub bei sowas immer auf den ersten Blick, dass da wer nen Schlaganfall bekommen hat und einfach mit dem Gesicht über die Tastatur gerollt ist lol.
I’m an American who’s been lucky enough to travel to many other countries, and I’m currently living in the EU.
Blanket statements on praise-worthiness are stupid; one should only praise things, people, and nations when and where they deserve it. There’s a lot to admire and there’s a lot to be disgusted at when considering just about every country and government.
What I find in EU culture socially is that people are far more exclusionary, prone to isolationism, and prejudicial about my and my countrymen’s competence and intelligence than what I was told to expect. I expected some “haha, dumb American” memes, but I didn’t expect people here to honestly believe everyone thinks and acts like our worst people back in the US. It was very eye-opening in a negative way.
EU citizens need to stop treating outsiders as 1-dimensional caricatures, but regrettably, that’s been one of humanity’s greatest faults, and I doubt it will be rectified anytime soon. I try not to get too butt-hurt about it, as we say, but it is irksome after encountering that attitude in conversation after conversation.
Although honestly I’m not sure how much of this is Scots and how much is just specific to Scottish twitter lol
So actually having done some more reading this isn’t Scots - I’m fairly sure this is Scottish English which is somewhat a merging of Scots with English.
yea and galician “looks like” a dialect of spanish, norwegian “looks like” a dialect of danish, and afrikaans “looks like” a dialect of dutch. hell, i can say english “looks like” a dialect of ulster scots. “dialect”/“accent” and “language” are meaningless words
that being said the text in this post is scottish english, not scots
This nonsense again? John Hislop runs a gambling blog for money, and published this googlebait years ago to get sweet SEO candy. Clearly it’s still working.
It’s probably still perfectly safe to eat. It likely just tastes like hot garbage. Frozen food doesn’t technically expire, it just slowly gets more and more freezer burnt that degrades the quality and taste. It remains perfectly safe to eat indefinitely, however.
If you’re going to choose a god to praise, why choose an easily insulted one-eyed old fart with a self-confidence problem? Go with someone with more pizzazz, like Freyja. Goddess of love, beauty, sex, war, magic. Is there anything she doesn’t do?
Odin kidnapped children and set them to be chased by wolves for all eternity because of how their father named them.
No hailing Oden, please. He’s a cunt.
This bit is tongue in cheek, specifically the “no hailing Oden” bit. It is a joke. I don’t actually care if someone worships Oden or not, you’re free to do as you please. I apologise if my phrasing came across as more serious than was intended. My apologies to you, @Delphia, and anyone else whom I’ve offended.
This…
Odin kidnapped children and set them to be chased by wolves for all eternity because of how their father named them.
…is a reference to the story of the children Sol and Mani, whose father loved them so much he decided to name them after the sun and the moon. Oden took offence to this, and whisked the children away up into the skies to drive the carriages of their namesakes, and just to ensure none shirked their duty, he set Fenrir’s two children, Hati (Hatred) and Sköll (Treachery) to chase them until the end times when the twin wolves devour their targets.
No matter how you look at it, that’s a shitty thing to do. It’s not the children’s fault that their father gave them that name. Suppose father was punished too in that he lost his beloved kids, but the children really drew the short end of the stick.
It’s not the first time he’s a bit of a shithead either. The way I’ve always understood the stories having grown up with them, his treatment of Loke’s children is what drives them to oppose him in the end times. He creates a lot of problems that could be fixed would he be open to properly communicate, but Oden isn’t the type to do that. He’s too prideful.
And this…
He’s also co-opted as a symbol for nationalism and white supremacy so there’s that part too.
…is sadly also true. I welcome people rekindling Asatro. I think that’s delightful. However, sadly there’s a bunch of people that have co-opted these stories and group together under Odin as a symbol of hatred and xenophobia. I obviously don’t think the person I initially responded to is one of these people, nor do I think they’re seriously practising asatro.
So, if you do decide to openly worship Oden, or carry imagery associated with him - that’s really cool, but it’s also worth noting that sadly in modern society at least here in Scandinavia, there are some unsavory connotations with it.
Finally this
If you’re going to choose a god to praise, why choose an easily insulted one-eyed old fart with a self-confidence problem? Go with someone with more pizzazz, like Freyja. Goddess of love, beauty, sex, war, magic. Is there anything she doesn’t do?
…is also tongue-in-cheek, though I do unironically think Freyja is many times cooler than Oden and I will (figuratively) fight you on that.
I love the stories about Atalanta, and how it culminates in her and Hippomenes both being transformed into lions as punishment for shagging in a temple, because at the time people believed that lions couldn’t have offspring together.
The story of Thor dressing up as and pretending to be Freyja in order to get his hammer back from some giants is also pretty sick.
And Amaterasu forever shunning her brotherhusband for in disgust decapitating a lady who invited them to a party she was too lazy to go to.
Just so you know you don’t need to go to prison in order to get your butthole destroyed. It’s much easier to just go on Grindr, which is only an emotional prison.
You could probs google it and find it pretty readily, something like ‘escalator failure reddit’ or that. It’s like mall footage of an escalator that has motor failure or something and because it’s… well really heavy it basically it snaps at some point and just rips down with people just falling into the pit where the inner parts stay underneath.
Oh I think I know that one. Based on the previous comment, I thought it got sent into overdrive and was going hella fast that it may as well be a chainsaw lol
Well no, chainsaw is an exaggeration, I think it’s more of an extruder or meat grinder when one gets caught in it. Thaaaaat one is nsfl and will forever remain a blue link 😬
As somone who has been on a broken escaltor that was not safe, the breaks can fail and then you have a big problem. Granted I’m not dead and didn’t lose any limbs but degloving is still not something I’d like to risk.
C. C I’m not sure what you’re talking about, I don’t watch those movies and the one I’m thinking about was from (iirc) an asian mall CCTV recording or something to that effect.
I know it’s a quote, but if the brakes failed on an escalator then yes it would be unusable even as stairs, however you wouldn’t be stuck on it at that point, you’d be in a pile at the bottom.
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